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Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 31 Aug 2023, 17:21

It is reported that the EU has called for a dialogue and peaceful resolution for this stupid conflict. Yes, yes, yes to the call for the cessation of all hostilities, wanton detentions and killings of civilians!!! This call is more resonating just because it is from people that know first hand the consequences of stupid civil wars. It is a continent that wrote its past history in human blood during its darkest days of the Seven, Thirty, Hundred Years, Napoleonic, 1st and 2nd World Wars in which hundreds of millions of its citizens lost their lives. Europe knows first hand the benefits of dialogue, peace and stable society. I hope and pray that all sides will heed this call and come to the table and hash out the issues. With the news of a loss of a young man I feel like I lost one of my own sons and with the news of a loss of a young woman I mourn as if I lost my own daughter. I call upon all of you in our Diaspora to put the caps back on your inflammatory pens and join those who call for dialogue and peaceful resolution. This conflict is triggered by raw emotion on both sides and nothing good will come out of it whoever will be the ‘victorious’ and who will be the ‘vanquished’. Unless this conflict is brought to an end now millions and upon millions will lose their lives. Take a look at this way. The bloody conflict that raged for two years in Tigray with less than 7 million people had caused the death of close to a million citizens with every resident losing every thing. Then try to extrapolate that number on a region of more than 30 million people. Targets will be much easier and the scale of casualties will be unimaginable. It sends chills down my spine just thinking about it. There is no other choice other than bringing it to an immediate halt now. Let’s all be peace mongers for a change.

Peace y’all!!!

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 31 Aug 2023, 23:33

As long as the unemployment rate among the job seeking generation remains very high, that will be and remain a throbbing headache for that country until it subsides. The unemployed youth has been the source of easily sought fodder for bigots and rabble rousers who are hell bent to create bloody chaos in that country. The defense forces are now fighting multi front battles and sooner or later the commanders will feel their soldiers are so thinned out(stretched out). That is a concern for me. When the casualty numbers continue to rise and news of losses of loved ones reach more families the regime will be somewhat alienated losing its grip on its power. Then some officers may start taking among each other at their speakeasies. Then that will create 1972-1974 Part Deux. This reminds me a story I was told the first countryman I had the privilege of making friends with when I came to this country decades ago.

My friend was one of those soldiers in the emperor’s army until he was sent here for mechanical training in the early 1970’s. He went AWOL and stayed here. During one of our usual conversations I asked him if there was any talk about the emperor and his government among the military. He told me he and his group used to hear rumors that was highly toned down. He told me that he and his group were under impression that there was something afoot among the military to go after the emperor. He believed if that happened the country may go into destructive chaos and that was the main reason for his going AWOL. At some point the mid level and top brass might have concluded it was too much.

It may be or at least seems to be a different environment and set up now. But some of the main factors may have similarities. Some may say that there were no opposition political parties then but there are so many now. But for me the current existence of so many political parties inside the country may not be the main game changer due to the fact that they are so splintered to a point to make any difference. They are so weakened by their own accord to influence any of the regime’s policies. They are just a collection of some useless zombies.

So look at it this way. The defense forces have just got a reprieve from the deadly conflict in Tigray where tens of thousand soldiers lost their lives and thousand others disabled for life. When they thought that conflict is over but suddenly they are called for action into another bloody conflict in Amhara and Oromia. These are no indefatigable creatures from another galaxy. They are humans. Their commanders are not all perfect. At some point some may start saying ‘this has to stop’ first to themselves and then to their trusted foxhole comrades. That can open opportunities for fast talking and conniving officers. It really has started to concern me these days. I hope and pray I will be proven wrong.

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by Somaliman » 01 Sep 2023, 06:31

Sadly, this forum is populated by keyboard warriors, trolls, devil advocates, and a bunch of retards with the mentality and behaviour of five year old kids mainly from Eritrea who are fighting imaginary enemies that Afwerki has inculcated in their chicken-brain.

All these share one common denominator: A desire to fuel conflicts between people and countries from their sofa. They do not care about the reality back home, which they've left not long ago.

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Sep 2023, 08:58

ወንድም አባ ፈርዳ፤

አለባብሶ ብያርሱ በአርም ይመለሱ፣ ስለዚህ ቆፍሮ መንጥሮ የችግሩን መንስዔ ከስር መሰረቱ ማዉጣት የተመሰከረለት ብልህ ስልት ነዉ።

በአፋን ኦሮሞ ደግሞ አንድ አባባል ከወላጆቼ በልጅነቴ ተምሬአለሁ። አርጩሜን ማል በሌሳ?

የተገረፈ ልጅ ለወደ ፊቱ ቀጥ ፀጥ ብሎ በመሄድ ከጥፋት መንገድ ራሱን ያግዳል። May be this could be the reason why Europe is well disciplined today, more than any other part of the world.

በቅርቡ ከትግራይ ወንድሞቻችን ይህንኑን ትምህርት በድጋሜ ቀስመናል፤ አይደልም?


የሰዉ ልጅ ሕይዎት በከንቱ ስቀጠፍ ያሳዝናል፣ ይቆጫል፣ የራስን ነፃነት ግን መስጠበቅ ግድ ይላል።

እዚህ ደረጀ ላይ ሳይደርስ ነበር፣ ተዉ እባካቺዉ፣ ይህ ነገር ጥሩ አይደለም ብለን ለምነን ተማፅነን አባ ከና የምለን ያጠነዉ። ለምንድ ነዉ ያኔ እዚህ ላይ ሳይደርስ አዎ ልክ ነዉ፣ ይቅርብን ማለት ያቃተህ? እረፍት ወስደህ ነበር?

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Sep 2023, 09:13

This lady is telling you (I mean all of us), "seek the truth and the truth will set you free", never look for a short-cut, which could lead you to a trap.


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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by DefendTheTruth » 01 Sep 2023, 18:47

ittuabafarda,

I am still waiting for your answer to my question, which inquired from you about why it took you so long to recognize the value of "peace mongers"?

Didn't you see it coming?

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 02 Sep 2023, 17:50

DefendTheTruth wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:47
ittuabafarda,

I am still waiting for your answer to my question, which inquired from you about why it took you so long to recognize the value of "peace mongers"?

Didn't you see it coming?
DefendTheTruth,

I did not notice your question. As far as I am concerned I have been a man of peace all my adult. I abhor violent and despise those who advocate peace as the only means to solve issues. That is not with out reasons. I have never come to discover any armed group be it 'liberation' front or 'liberation' front that brought democratic rule to the country it fought for. I know or have seen no one. Not one! I don't have to cite proof for you. All you have to do is look around. I thought the Sandinistas could be the exception and my jury was out about them for a while until the last few years where its leader is hell bent to found a dynasty to rule over his people. Violence is the principle that drew them to the bushes and that will continue to be the working protocol after they plant themselves as the new sheriffs in town. Since the American War of Independence I can't find one that calms my nerves. If you have been reading my previous comments with undivided attention you will not be amiss of my convictions as an advocate of peace. Let's keep our discourse in English so I can understand you properly.

Thank you for staying civil in our conversation.

Blessings!!!

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 02 Sep 2023, 18:21

Somaliman wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 06:31
Sadly, this forum is populated by keyboard warriors, trolls, devil advocates, and a bunch of retards with the mentality and behaviour of five year old kids mainly from Eritrea who are fighting imaginary enemies that Afwerki has inculcated in their chicken-brain.

All these share one common denominator: A desire to fuel conflicts between people and countries from their sofa. They do not care about the reality back home, which they've left not long ago.
Dear Somaliman,

You hit it right on the nose by calling those rabble rousers among our Diaspora as 'keyboard warriors'. They have found out that they can start and build a comfortable lifestyle by peddling deadly poison among the gullible. I've been watching those among my own Oromo community who have been preaching animosity among the rather harmonious people for decades. After the advent of YouTube, Twitter, Face Book and other social media platforms they were the first to jump on them. Then came thousands of viewers leading to dedicated viewers followed by subscribers. Some of them have more 600,000 subscribers. If these connivers earn $1.00 from each subscriber by way commercials fees or direct fees, then you have the picture. Peddling hate and violence is not just for the sake of talking or writing but it is extremely lucrative. They are filthy rich living in not modest houses but mansions. They also run fund raising drives all the time for this or that fake benefits. I heard such connivers are also present in my dear Amhara brothers and sisters communities. They run their outfits as non-profits which are tax exempt. I am wondering if these smart alecks were audited by the IRS or independent accounting firms ever. But for now you will see them running around like rabid dogs hurling pejorative epithet like 'Neftegna' this and 'Oromummaa' that against ethnic groups they hate with passion.

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by DefendTheTruth » 03 Sep 2023, 16:03

ittuabafarda wrote:
02 Sep 2023, 17:50
DefendTheTruth wrote:
01 Sep 2023, 18:47
ittuabafarda,

I am still waiting for your answer to my question, which inquired from you about why it took you so long to recognize the value of "peace mongers"?

Didn't you see it coming?
DefendTheTruth,

I did not notice your question. As far as I am concerned I have been a man of peace all my adult. I abhor violent and despise those who advocate peace as the only means to solve issues. That is not with out reasons. I have never come to discover any armed group be it 'liberation' front or 'liberation' front that brought democratic rule to the country it fought for. I know or have seen no one. Not one! I don't have to cite proof for you. All you have to do is look around. I thought the Sandinistas could be the exception and my jury was out about them for a while until the last few years where its leader is hell bent to found a dynasty to rule over his people. Violence is the principle that drew them to the bushes and that will continue to be the working protocol after they plant themselves as the new sheriffs in town. Since the American War of Independence I can't find one that calms my nerves. If you have been reading my previous comments with undivided attention you will not be amiss of my convictions as an advocate of peace. Let's keep our discourse in English so I can understand you properly.

Thank you for staying civil in our conversation.

Blessings!!!
ittuabafarda,

I didn't question about your stand on peace, I didn't go that far.

My simple question is about why did it take you that long before rediscovering yourself a peace-envoy on the underlying issue in this case?

I just wanted to know if you didn't see coming or if you have your own threshold at which you decide it is now time?

Another question is if praying for peace alone is sufficient to also ensure peace, as someone who has advocated for peace the whole of his life?

Would you mind sharing your position on this one too?

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 04 Sep 2023, 00:00

This is exactly what I have been saying about the status of opposition parties in the old country. In just a small region of Tigray there are 4 opposition parties operating openly. Who knows how many groups/parties are there in Tigray that exist clandestinely. That is only in a tiny region of Tigray with a population of less than 7 million. We have heard there close to 80 groups/parties in the capital alone. Only The All Mighty knows how many more are out there among the Diaspora who are 'fire tested' as 'heroic' keyboard fighters. Even the regions are multiplying as the exploding population growth like worms. Sooner or later every individual there is going to demand a personal region. It may seem comical but in practice it has proven to be deadly. It seems to be beyond the 80 plus ethnic groups. The next campaign is going to be demanding a region on clan basis then on sub clan level then on sub-sub clan level. After that I'm gonna urge each member of my Itu clan to demand a personal region. Ooo-wee! Problem solved!!! Hey commies! Congratulations!!! You got what you wished for that gem of the colored! Boy! Do I have nothing but utter contempt for you!!!

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by DefendTheTruth » 04 Sep 2023, 04:56

ittuabafarda wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 00:00
This is exactly what I have been saying about the status of opposition parties in the old country. In just a small region of Tigray there are 4 opposition parties operating openly. Who knows how many groups/parties are there in Tigray that exist clandestinely. That is only in a tiny region of Tigray with a population of less than 7 million. We have heard there close to 80 groups/parties in the capital alone. Only The All Mighty knows how many more are out there among the Diaspora who are 'fire tested' as 'heroic' keyboard fighters. Even the regions are multiplying as the exploding population growth like worms. Sooner or later every individual there is going to demand a personal region. It may seem comical but in practice it has proven to be deadly. It seems to be beyond the 80 plus ethnic groups. The next campaign is going to be demanding a region on clan basis then on sub clan level then on sub-sub clan level. After that I'm gonna urge each member of my Itu clan to demand a personal region. Ooo-wee! Problem solved!!! Hey commies! Congratulations!!! You got what you wished for that gem of the colored! Boy! Do I have nothing but utter contempt for you!!!
ittuabafarda,

if I may have understood your comment here, then you seem to attribute the cause of the problem that you have prescribed the solution as peacefully negotiated ceasefire to a different and underlying problem (the existence of kilils, of too many parties, diaspora keyboard warriors etc.) and thereby also admit the war on the ground is just an outward expression of the underlying problem.

Even if I may not know better than you, it is still the general assumption that to solve the problem it should be necessary to tackle the cause instead of treating the symptoms on the surface, isn't it?

In that case did you also try to even mention even as a side note the cause in your prescription of how to come to the negotiation table and end the war as a solution?

In fact, in my view, you are still avoiding to raise the core problem and try to attribute to something which is in the rights of the people in the country today. To form one's party is not forbidden, to demand one's own kilil is also not forbidden, in my little understanding of the idea.

In doing all of these and other demands you should but abide yourself by the rule of the game, the base line of the engagement for any endeavor.

You have never raised this simple logic and in the event that this basic rule has been violated the consequence of holding the violators to account is also a forgone conclusion. In that case your attempt to hold both parties, those who violated the rule of the game and those who are trying to uphold the rule of the game to the same scale of accountability is just trying to obfuscate the problem and prolonging the sufferings of the people on the ground, IS NOT trying to curb them.

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 05 Sep 2023, 12:14

This Ethiopian Airline owned and run by black folks has been the target of deliberate tarnishing by those who are there to trip into a business failure. They accused this airline for transporting soldiers and weapons using its civilian aircrafts to war zones. These bigot rabid dogs among us were and are still accusing it as arms and soldiers hauler. These guys with Bloomberg and Wall Street do that with ulterior business motives cooked up at their Brooklyn speakeasies to send this fire tested airline into bankruptcy. It is part of their evil ‘cancel’ culture drive. But once again this pride of the colored will wither away every fire thrown at it and come out even much stronger.

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Re: Let's All Be Peace Mongers For A Change

Post by ittuabafarda » 06 Sep 2023, 10:21

Whoever is expressing interest in resolving issues peacefully what I always say is ‘show me the money!!!’ And it is not a laughing or a talking matter. It involves the death of hundreds and leading to thousands of citizens mainly the youth. When we thought one stupid war ignited by stupid individuals is over only to be followed by another stupid war hatched up by stupid individuals. This one allegedly raging in Amhara region unless it is left up to the level head elders it will end after tens of thousands of citizens are dead with millions left homeless with every one there losing every thing he/she has now. Some may call it smart but I don’t see in it except just another stupidity. We have already heard the leaders of the opposite side expressing their interest to end this conflict peacefully. Well, I say ‘show me the money’. Just like Tuco said ‘If you wanna shoot, shoot. Don’t just talk!’ Both sides: lay down your arms and talk it over at the round table. Then I will tell the world how smart you are!!!

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