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[Deqi-Arawit]

An Arab/Muslim mother shared the reconciliation and hug of her children after they had a fight.



Watching this video, People with some simple basic common sense would have reacted to the video "OHHHHHHHH, sweet, they are displaying maturity at a young age. Bravo bravo". In contrast, this is how the lunatic muslims reacted to this innocent encounter between siblings.







They even claimed that "prophet" Mohammed forbids contact between sisters out of fear they might desire each other after they grow up..

What kind of sick society thinks that brothers and sisters are going to fuc@@ck each other if they start hugging and kissing each other when they were innocent children?

[TesfaNews]

Haram police

[Somaliman]

If you see an African or Arab who's obsessed with finding faults with Islam, make no mistake, he's a hom.osexual, because Islam forbids hom.osexuality.

Donkey Arawit is the only one on this forum who comes up every few days with something to find faults with Islam or try to demonise it, no one else.

I'm not talking about criticising Islam as you would criticise anything else, but being obsessed with criticising Islam without any good reason.

By the same token, from time to time, he also comes up with something to try to denigrate Somalis, because he's rejected by them, as Somalis do not accommodate hom.osexuality.

Dirty as.shole, I don't think you're comfortable among Eritreans either.

[kerenite]

An Arab/Muslim mother shared the reconciliation and hug of her children after they had a fight.



Watching this video, People with some simple basic common sense would have reacted to the video "OHHHHHHHH, sweet, they are displaying maturity at a young age. Bravo bravo". In contrast, this is how the lunatic muslims reacted to this innocent encounter between siblings.







They even claimed that "prophet" Mohammed forbids contact between sisters out of fear they might desire each other after they grow up..

What kind of sick society thinks that brothers and sisters are going to fuc@@ck each other if they start hugging and kissing each other when they were innocent children?

DeQi gelemele,

You know what I am visualizing, to kill 5 of your types and go to heaven and there 72 virgins will be waiting for me and that's what you know about islam and which is a sheer lie. If that is true why Christians remained as christians even in mecca in the 6th or 7th centuries why the real muslims who were adhering to koran didn't kill them in order to secure the 72 virgins?

You know what deQi gelemele, nature dictates it, if the Qoran taught me so, I would have killed you, your father, your mother and your loved ones but my big problem will be with the 72 virgins what the fuuck am I going to do with them?
Hey! I will be sitting in the middle and surrounded by them.

Hey deQi gelemele, if you will be around, I will be satisfied with one and the remaining 71 will belong to you.

[eritrea]

An Arab/Muslim mother shared the reconciliation and hug of her children after they had a fight.



Watching this video, People with some simple basic common sense would have reacted to the video "OHHHHHHHH, sweet, they are displaying maturity at a young age. Bravo bravo". In contrast, this is how the lunatic muslims reacted to this innocent encounter between siblings.


They even claimed that "prophet" Mohammed forbids contact between sisters out of fear they might desire each other after they grow up..

What kind of sick society thinks that brothers and sisters are going to fuc@@ck each other if they start hugging and kissing each other when they were innocent children?

DeQi gelemele,

You know what I am visualizing, to kill 5 of your types and go to heaven and there 72 virgins will be waiting for me and that's what you know about islam and which is a sheer lie. If that is true why Christians remained as christians even in mecca in the 6th or 7th centuries why the real muslims who were adhering to koran didn't kill them in order to secure the 72 virgins?

You know what deQi gelemele, nature dictates it, if the Qoran taught me so, I would have killed you, your father, your mother and your loved ones but my big problem will be with the 72 virgins what the fuuck am I going to do with them?
Hey! I will be sitting in the middle and surrounded by them.

Hey deQi gelemele, if you will be around, I will be satisfied with one and the remaining 71 will belong to you.

ጽንሕ ኢለስ ጉድ ከንብብ ኢየ።

My question to you Kerenite, what is your take to the horrible comments to the innocent picture of the kids?

[Deqi-Arawit]

It seems the only reason why Muslims see every thing from sex and sex related issues has to do with the founder and the CEO of Islam Mohammed. and worst, his deeds and actions still influences the behavior of Muslims. There are Arab scholars who urge Muslim men not to stay alone with their own daughters because the devil might come and incite them to have sexual intercourse with their own flesh and bone.

They have a man whom they worship as a prophet who desired the wife of his own son and then invented words as the revelation of God the almighty for the purpose to extinguish his sexual desire. Here are 16 privileges on which only mohammed can enjoy according to the revelation of the so called God. Since Mohammed hagos claims that he master the arabic language, I am proving him arabic texts which validate to what I am writing and I want you to concentrate on mohammed privilege number 10..... What kind of naughty Prophet can he lay a his eyes on your wife and demand you to divorce her so that he can F@£@ck her? Any way, the deprivation of mohammed when it comes to sex is second to none.

وَأَمَّا مَا أُحِلَّ لَهُ صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ فَجُمْلَته سِتَّة عَشَرَ : الْأَوَّل : صَفِيّ الْمَغْنَم . الثَّانِي : الِاسْتِبْدَاد بِخُمُسِ الْخُمُس أَوْ الْخُمُس . الثَّالِث : الْوِصَال . الرَّابِع : الزِّيَادَة عَلَى أَرْبَع نِسْوَة . الْخَامِس : النِّكَاح بِلَفْظِ الْهِبَة . السَّادِس : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ وَلِيّ . السَّابِع : النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ صَدَاق . الثَّامِن : نِكَاحه فِي حَالَة الْإِحْرَام . التَّاسِع : سُقُوط الْقَسْم بَيْن الْأَزْوَاج عَنْهُ , وَسَيَأْتِي . الْعَاشِر : إِذَا وَقَعَ بَصَره عَلَى اِمْرَأَة وَجَبَ عَلَى زَوْجهَا طَلَاقهَا , وَحَلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحهَا . قَالَ اِبْن الْعَرَبِيّ : هَكَذَا قَالَ إِمَام الْحَرَمَيْنِ , وَقَدْ مَضَى مَا لِلْعُلَمَاءِ فِي قِصَّة زَيْد مِنْ هَذَا الْمَعْنَى . الْحَادِيَ عَشَرَ : أَنَّهُ أَعْتَقَ صَفِيَّة وَجَعَلَ عِتْقهَا صَدَاقهَا . الثَّانِي عَشَرَ : دُخُول مَكَّة بِغَيْرِ إِحْرَام , وَفِي حَقّنَا فِيهِ اِخْتِلَاف . الثَّالِث عَشَر : الْقِتَال بِمَكَّة . الرَّابِع عَشَر : أَنَّهُ لَا يُورَث . وَإِنَّمَا ذُكِرَ هَذَا فِي قِسْم التَّحْلِيل لِأَنَّ الرَّجُل إِذَا قَارَبَ الْمَوْت بِالْمَرَضِ زَالَ عَنْهُ أَكْثَرُ مِلْكه , وَلَمْ يَبْقَ لَهُ إِلَّا الثُّلُث خَالِصًا , وَبَقِيَ مِلْك رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ عَلَى مَا تَقَرَّرَ بَيَانه فِي آيَة الْمَوَارِيث , وَسُورَة " مَرْيَم " بَيَانه أَيْضًا . الْخَامِسَة عَشَر : بَقَاء زَوْجِيَّته مِنْ بَعْد الْمَوْت . السَّادِس عَشَر : إِذَا طَلَّقَ اِمْرَأَة تَبْقَى حُرْمَته عَلَيْهَا فَلَا تُنْكَح .

1: صَفِيّ الْمَغْنَم The best of the booty, If the muslims go to war and captures war booty, the best of the best should go to mohammed.
2:الِاسْتِبْدَاد بِخُمُسِ الْخُمُس أَوْ الْخُمُس Muhammed should get 1/5 of the war booty
3: الْوِصَال abstaining from food.
4.الزِّيَادَة عَلَى أَرْبَع نِسْوَة Only mohammed is allowed to have more than 4 wives according to Muslims, that is apart from countless concubines or slaves girls whom he have the right to [deleted].
5 النِّكَاح بِلَفْظِ الْهِبَة a marriage by just saying the words with out the blessing or the witness of anyone.
6النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ وَلِيّ the marriage without asking the custodian |fathers,mother,brother or sister] of the woman
7. النِّكَاح بِغَيْرِ صَدَاق mohammed can marry any woman without paying any dowry
8. نِكَاحه فِي حَالَة الْإِحْرَام . Having sex with out been in state of ritual consecration and purification.
9: سُقُوط الْقَسْم بَيْن الْأَزْوَاج عَنْهُ. Mohammed can annul his oath he makes to his wives
10 : إِذَا وَقَعَ بَصَره عَلَى اِمْرَأَة وَجَبَ عَلَى زَوْجهَا طَلَاقهَا , وَحَلَّ لَهُ نِكَاحهَا If mohammed see any married woman he likes, her husband must divorce her immediately so that mohammed can have sex with her.
11. : أَنَّهُ أَعْتَقَ صَفِيَّة وَجَعَلَ عِتْقهَا صَدَاقهَا, When mohammed released saffiah the coptic Egyptians from his enslavement, he considered her release as her dowry

12 : دُخُول مَكَّة بِغَيْرِ إِحْرَام . He can enter Mecca without being in pure.
13 : الْقِتَال بِمَكَّة...Fighting in mecka
14 أَنَّهُ لَا يُورَث . Mohammeds property is not allowed to be inherited
15قَاء زَوْجِيَّته مِنْ بَعْد الْمَوْت , Wives of mohammed are not allowed to get married after his death
16.: إِذَا طَلَّقَ اِمْرَأَة تَبْقَى حُرْمَته عَلَيْهَا فَلَا تُنْكَح . If mohammed divorces his women, these women are not allowed to get remarried

Mohammed Hagos, since you always claim every thing I say is false, all the above is from the official website of Saudi Arabia and you can look at Tefseer al qurdubi.

https://quran.ksu.edu.sa/tafseer/

[Deqi-Arawit]

Here is Taliban Deputy chief Mullah Ahmed engaging in some [deleted] activity and yet they are the one who claim that they have higher moral authority to tell regular people how they should conduct themselves......

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[sesame]

Wedi Atarit,

Didn't the Agames elect a rapist to the highest office of their Church just a few weeks back. You Agames have no conciousness of yourselves. You bleat about others when your own sins are a hundred times, nay a thousand times, worse. Why are 2/3 of your Agame tegadelti HIV positive. These are the issues that should dominate your little Agame brain.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Wedi Atarit,

Didn't the Agames elect a rapist to the highest office of their Church just a few weeks back. You Agames have no conciousness of yourselves. You bleat about others when your own sins are a hundred times, nay a thousand times, worse. Why are 2/3 of your Agame tegadelti HIV positive. These are the issues that should dominate your little Agame brain.

Weizero shemaynesh!
The problem with the Low IQ medhin berad supporters is, their horizons is limited to Agame and agame related issues, they are unable to see beyond the leeches. That is also why his eminence doesn't engage in any meaningful discussion with a bunch of low IQ individuals.....I rather educate people who are willing to learn instead.

Furthermore, Try to be consistent, if you hate the leeches, you wouldn't bow and direct your arse toward the dictator whose mother is a Barista Agame.

[Zack]

First of all it’s wrong to sexualise something as innocent as that and I don’t think it’s an Islamic thing persay . It’s more of an Arab thing the majority of people that reacted were Arabs . I don’t think other Muslims in the balkans in africa in Indonesia in turkey the Sudan would consider this and act of imorality Inpurity.

Having said that now let me adress some of what deqi arewit claim
First of all. Arab Scholars say men cannot or shouldn’t stay with their daughters alone because of the said sexual desire . I have never heard of this and I don’t know what arab scholars have said this please tell us their names and then I will look it up . What is their thalil reasoning for claiming such thing is there an Hadith that claims men shouldn’t stay alone with their daughters . Daughters and their fathers are mahram to one another she can break ur luthu u can take ur daughter to mecca and be her mahram. So not sure why a sheikh would say that it’s something to avoid to be with ur daughter

About ur other point that one fifth of the spoils of war to be given to the holy prophet of Islam Mohamed salalalahualyhi wa salaam there is a wisdom behind it . The prophet is the leader of the believers and allah was in a way laying the foundation and the methods of how to establish the Islamic khilafa .in which the prophet was the leader of the kingdom of Islam. This is clearly stipulated in surah anfal the 8th surah of the Quran . There is a reason why his wives couldn’t inherit the prophets wealth it was strictly passed down to khillaafati rasuuulallah. There was a garden the prophet gave to his daughter when he was alive abubakr retook that form her and used the right thalil to do this .
It was all that all the wealth would go to the Islamic empire and it did and abubakr umar and uthman and ali build one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen with that wisdom

Now about the prophet marrying more then four wives. The four wives were set down for all the common men the prophet again was doing these marriages to establish ties with the various tribes of Arabia not for lust as u are suggesting 90 percent of these wives were widows divorces woman that lost their men in battles for the cause of allah against the Roman Empire and kafirun

As for the other issue the zayid ibn haritha which some of the islamophobes use this story as some sort of contention and controversy. It’s very simple zayid ibn haritha wasn’t the biological son of prophet Mohammed , after the surah was sent down it made two things clear that adoption in Islam can never be established and that Islam doesn’t recognise this notion . After the surah was sent down zayid ibn haritha wasn’t no longer known as zayid ibn Muhammed , Arabs at that time really frownd uppon some one who married the ex wife of a son, but because zayid ibn haritha wasn’t his son his biological son allah have made it clear no one can claim a father that didn’t sired him
Zainab never rejected her marriage to prophet Mohammed and she and her ex husband had issues for years . The prophet in the beginning tried to reconcile the two but that didn’t work. Zayid then suggested to divorce her . There was nothing of lust in this story there was nothing at all. The prophet if he had desired. Zainab he could have married her years before that he suggested that she should be married off to zayid indeed . She was also the prophets cousin

Dr Zackovich

[kerenite]

First of all it’s wrong to sexualise something as innocent as that and I don’t think it’s an Islamic thing persay . It’s more of an Arab thing the majority of people that reacted were Arabs . I don’t think other Muslims in the balkans in africa in Indonesia in turkey the Sudan would consider this and act of imorality Inpurity.

Having said that now let me adress some of what deqi arewit claim
First of all. Arab Scholars say men cannot or shouldn’t stay with their daughters alone because of the said sexual desire . I have never heard of this and I don’t know what arab scholars have said this please tell us their names and then I will look it up . What is their thalil reasoning for claiming such thing is there an Hadith that claims men shouldn’t stay alone with their daughters . Daughters and their fathers are mahram to one another she can break ur luthu u can take ur daughter to mecca and be her mahram. So not sure why a sheikh would say that it’s something to avoid to be with ur daughter

About ur other point that one fifth of the spoils of war to be given to the holy prophet of Islam Mohamed salalalahualyhi wa salaam there is a wisdom behind it . The prophet is the leader of the believers and allah was in a way laying the foundation and the methods of how to establish the Islamic khilafa .in which the prophet was the leader of the kingdom of Islam. This is clearly stipulated in surah anfal the 8th surah of the Quran . There is a reason why his wives couldn’t inherit the prophets wealth it was strictly passed down to khillaafati rasuuulallah. There was a garden the prophet gave to his daughter when he was alive abubakr retook that form her and used the right thalil to do this .
It was all that all the wealth would go to the Islamic empire and it did and abubakr umar and uthman and ali build one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen with that wisdom

Now about the prophet marrying more then four wives. The four wives were set down for all the common men the prophet again was doing these marriages to establish ties with the various tribes of Arabia not for lust as u are suggesting 90 percent of these wives were widows divorces woman that lost their men in battles for the cause of allah against the Roman Empire and kafirun

As for the other issue the zayid ibn haritha which some of the islamophobes use this story as some sort of contention and controversy. It’s very simple zayid ibn haritha wasn’t the biological son of prophet Mohammed , after the surah was sent down it made two things clear that adoption in Islam can never be established and that Islam doesn’t recognise this notion . After the surah was sent down zayid ibn haritha wasn’t no longer known as zayid ibn Muhammed , Arabs at that time really frownd uppon some one who married the ex wife of a son, but because zayid ibn haritha wasn’t his son his biological son allah have made it clear no one can claim a father that didn’t sired him
Zainab never rejected her marriage to prophet Mohammed and she and her ex husband had issues for years . The prophet in the beginning tried to reconcile the two but that didn’t work. Zayid then suggested to divorce her . There was nothing of lust in this story there was nothing at all. The prophet if he had desired. Zainab he could have married her years before that he suggested that she should be married off to zayid indeed . She was also the prophets cousinw
Dr Zackovich
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Waw.. Waw, bravo dr. Zaki.

[Abe Abraham]

newri, tsiyaf /inappropriate !

https://www.euronews.com/2023/08/21/ang ... ced%20them.

'Insufficient': Spainish PM blasts football boss' apology over forced World Cup kiss.

[Somaliman]

I don't think Donkey Arawit deserves anyone's time to provide him with a constructive response, as all he's doing, obviously, is to find faults with Muslims and Somalis and try to mock them.

By the way, the leader of Spain’s football federation kissing a player on the lips is quite weird, as this practice is only reserved to couples with intimate relationships.

In Spain, people who haven't seen each other for a while might kiss each other on the cheeks, and this is not even a proper kissing, as all you do is the action of kissing without touching people's cheeks with your lips, and this requires a bit of practice for foreigners to avoid making a gaffe.

[Somaliman]

What Donkey Arawit is making is what's called "Dishonest argument", or "Logical fallacy". This means he's basing his argument on a faulty logic, and this invalidates his argument, since there's no data or evidence whatsoever that support his claim that "Muslims sexualize every thing".

It's like asking "Why are all Ethiopians short"?

Claiming that all Ethiopians are short is not supported by any data or evidence whatsoever. Therefore, any answer that's given to this question basing it on the faulty reasoning - that all Ethiopians are short - automatically becomes invalid.

Therefore, his rant is a complete bullsh.it.

[Deqi-Arawit]

First of all it’s wrong to sexualise something as innocent as that and I don’t think it’s an Islamic thing persay . It’s more of an Arab thing the majority of people that reacted were Arabs . I don’t think other Muslims in the balkans in africa in Indonesia in turkey the Sudan would consider this and act of imorality Inpurity.

Arabs are regarded by non arabic speaking population as the standard bearer when it comes to Islam and Islamic related issue. You could see and compare Somalis of the 1970 and todays Somalis. Somalis of the 1970 were muslims but they were still proud of their culture and tradition but once they get in touch with Arabs, they thought, they practiced their religion in a wrong way . Ninja culture, radicalism among the somalis is the result of their connectivity with the standard bearers of Islam which are Arabs. You could even see among recent muslims ethnic groups like Saddacha sisters and brothers trying to act more Arabs than Arabs by covering their body from their hair to their toe ,a phenomena which was unknown among Ethiopian muslims.

Having said that now let me adress some of what deqi arewit claim
First of all. Arab Scholars say men cannot or shouldn’t stay with their daughters alone because of the said sexual desire . I have never heard of this and I don’t know what arab scholars have said this please tell us their names and then I will look it up . What is their thalil reasoning for claiming such thing is there an Hadith that claims men shouldn’t stay alone with their daughters . Daughters and their fathers are mahram to one another she can break ur luthu u can take ur daughter to mecca and be her mahram. So not sure why a sheikh would say that it’s something to avoid to be with ur daughter

One woman called a famous Saudi shejk moahmmed al-arefe for advice after her sister daughter was raped by her own father and the Shejk instead of giving some logical advise that the man should be put in prison or paying for his crime, he tried to deflect the crime on the circumstances and environment that if men are allowed to stay even with their female relatives, the devil might incite them to engage in some sinful activity.

Furthermore, When his eminence wrote the topic why do muslims sexualize every thing, it was not without merit. Do you know that to have sex with your dead wife is Halal in Islam...Now, unless the muslims have a dirty mind all the time, who would in his remind thing about sex when his wife and the mother of his children is dead and she will not be around any more.


Sabri Abdul Rauf, professor of compared law at the University of al-Azhar, the most influential university in the Sunni Islamic world.

Having sex with the wife just died, said Abdul Rauf, who brought his opinion on TV, on the Satellite channel “LTC”, will also be “unusual” but it’s “halal”, and thus legitimate. The practice, according to the law expert, would also have a coded name “farewell coitus”.

About ur other point that one fifth of the spoils of war to be given to the holy prophet of Islam Mohamed salalalahualyhi wa salaam there is a wisdom behind it . The prophet is the leader of the believers and allah was in a way laying the foundation and the methods of how to establish the Islamic khilafa .in which the prophet was the leader of the kingdom of Islam. This is clearly stipulated in surah anfal the 8th surah of the Quran . There is a reason why his wives couldn’t inherit the prophets wealth it was strictly passed down to khillaafati rasuuulallah. There was a garden the prophet gave to his daughter when he was alive abubakr retook that from her and used the right thalil to do this .
It was all that all the wealth would go to the Islamic empire and it did and abubakr umar and uthman and ali build one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen with that wisdom

You left all the exclusive privileges of mohammed and concentrating on this particular issue because you think you have a solid argument but for no avail. First, the fact the only person who "knew" that mohammed property are not allowed to be inherited but to be given to "charity" is Aisha and Aisha is the daughter of Abu-Bakr. Second, the fact that the wives of mohammed was represented by Uthman when he confronted Abu-Bakr is a testimony that even Othman was not aware that the property of mohammed were not allowed to be inherited but the charity non sense was a gimmick used by the daughter and father to screw the remaining family members of mohammed.

Now about the prophet marrying more than four wives. The four wives were set down for all the common men the prophet again was doing these marriages to establish ties with the various tribes of Arabia not for lust as u are suggesting 90 percent of these wives were widows divorces woman that lost their men in battles for the cause of allah against the Roman Empire and kafirun

Safiya bint Huyay was 17 jewish girl who was raped the same day her husband, father and brother were killed by mohammed, hence the notion that mohammed was playing Duracell battery and having sexual intercourse with many women to establish alliance with other Arab tribes is non sense.

As for the other issue the zayid ibn haritha which some of the islamophobes use this story as some sort of contention and controversy. It’s very simple zayid ibn haritha wasn’t the biological son of prophet Mohammed , after the surah was sent down it made two things clear that adoption in Islam can never be established and that Islam doesn’t recognise this notion . After the surah was sent down zayid ibn haritha wasn’t no longer known as zayid ibn Muhammed , Arabs at that time really frownd uppon some one who married the ex wife of a son, but because zayid ibn haritha wasn’t his son his biological son allah have made it clear no one can claim a father that didn’t sired him
Zainab never rejected her marriage to prophet Mohammed and she and her ex husband had issues for years . The prophet in the beginning tried to reconcile the two but that didn’t work. Zayid then suggested to divorce her . There was nothing of lust in this story there was nothing at all. The prophet if he had desired. Zainab he could have married her years before that he suggested that she should be married off to zayid indeed . She was also the prophets cousin

Dr Zackovich

It seems Allah is there to justify your desire

This is what Little Aisha observed when mohammed flip flapped his revelation to justify his deeds, what is halal in the morning can be haram in the evening. In regard to there was no lust between wife of Zayid and mohammed, the Arabs are good to document thing, you need to look the link I forwarded to you and look for yourself what mohammed said about Zayneb when she was half dressed.

[Zack]

First of all the prophets Marriage with Safiya bint Huyay there was nothing Contreversial about this Marriage. and i will explain why . First of all she belonged to the banu nadir clan . She was the one who had a dream about her marriage with the prophet . About her brother and father being killed well they betrayed the oath , u seem to be fine with that. through out humanity betrayal was always dealth with the death penatly by states by emperors by religions its not inhumane. Today if edward snowden is captured by the usa he will be killed.


About sheikh mohammed al arafe it was just his advise it has nothing to do with islam , it has something to do with arab incest behaviour
so its not a muslim thing its an arab thing , and i think what he advises was wrong. But he never gave an islamic ruling to his advise . so in reality it has nothing to do with islam.

As for Somalis we consider our selves the defenders of the faith and we dont need arabs to understand the relgion. We were Muslims prior to entire Arabian tribes who were conquered by the sword. We said in the seventh century Sama ana wa athacna we hear and we obey the messege of the prophet. there are millions of Arab christians arab culture is their culture but it has nothing to do with islam.


islam is all about the Quran hadith and sira ta al nabawi.


Dr Zackovich

[Deqi-Arawit]

First of all the prophets Marriage with Safiya bint Huyay there was nothing Contreversial about this Marriage. and i will explain why . First of all she belonged to the banu nadir clan . She was the one who had a dream about her marriage with the prophet . About her brother and father being killed well they betrayed the oath , u seem to be fine with that. through out humanity betrayal was always dealth with the death penatly by states by emperors by religions its not inhumane. Today if edward snowden is captured by the usa he will be killed.


About sheikh mohammed al arafe it was just his advise it has nothing to do with islam , it has something to do with arab incest behaviour
so its not a muslim thing its an arab thing , and i think what he advises was wrong. But he never gave an islamic ruling to his advise . so in reality it has nothing to do with islam.

As for Somalis we consider our selves the defenders of the faith and we dont need arabs to understand the relgion. We were Muslims prior to entire Arabian tribes who were conquered by the sword. We said in the seventh century Sama ana wa athacna we hear and we obey the messege of the prophet. there are millions of Arab christians arab culture is their culture but it has nothing to do with islam.


islam is all about the Quran hadith and sira ta al nabawi.


Dr Zackovich

Brother Jackavovich...Why are you dishonest here? You are like the Eritrean dictator worshippers who try to deflect the shortcoming or the incompetence of dictator either by blaming the Agames or create fantasia claims which is unheard of. Like Always, his eminence is here to educate and correct people.

First of all the prophets Marriage with Safiya bint Huyay there was nothing Contreversial about this Marriage. and i will explain why . First of all she belonged to the banu nadir clan . She was the one who had a dream about her marriage with the prophet . About her brother and father being killed well they betrayed the oath , u seem to be fine with that. through out humanity betrayal was always dealth with the death penatly by states by emperors by religions its not inhumane. Today if edward snowden is captured by the usa he will be killed.

Where did you get the information that Safiya who was 17 years old was craving for an 59 years man for marriage? You people dont even read your books for f@@ck sake. This is what your books says, and there was neither love or marriage but satisfaction of sexual desire by Mohammed.

When the Muslims attacked Khaybar jewish and killed the father, brother and husband of Safiya. The first man who lay his eyes and hands on Safiya was one muslim soldiers by the name Dhiya.

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:371

ـ وَالْخَمِيسُ‏.‏ يَعْنِي الْجَيْشَ، قَالَ فَأَصَبْنَاهَا عَنْوَةً، فَجُمِعَ السَّبْىُ، فَجَاءَ دِحْيَةُ فَقَالَ يَا نَبِيَّ اللَّهِ، أَعْطِنِي جَارِيَةً مِنَ السَّبْىِ‏.‏ قَالَ ‏"‏ اذْهَبْ فَخُذْ جَارِيَةً ‏"‏‏.‏ فَأَخَذَ صَفِيَّةَ بِنْتَ حُيَىٍّ، فَجَاءَ رَجُلٌ إِلَى النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم فَقَالَ يَا نَبِيَّ اللَّهِ، أَعْطَيْتَ دِحْيَةَ صَفِيَّةَ بِنْتَ حُيَ

As you see, Dhiya came to mohammed and asked him to give him girls from the captives and the "prophet" advised him to take any girls among the slaves...Dhiya took Safiya. but once some soldiers told mohammed that the girl Dhiya took was the chief misstress of the tribes of Quraidha and An-Nadi, mohammed changed his mind and asked Dhiya to bring Safiya back. of course Dhiya was upset and insisted to have Safiya. At the beginning, mohammed offered him two girls in exchange for Safiyaa on which Dhiya refused, then mohammed raised the bid and offered him 5 more slaves in exchange for Safiyaa on which yet again Dhiya refused but in the end, in the end, they agreed that Dhiya would obtain 7 slaves in exchange for Safiya.
reference Ibn Ishaq 511, Sahih muslim book 8 number 3328

In the evening, when mohammed spend the night with Safiya, one soldier by the name Abu-Ayyoub had more moral and ethic than Mohammed when he guarded the tents of mohammed for fear that Safiya might kill rassaul Allah ...This is what he said......Al-Tabari.

"Abu Huraryrah: While the prophet was lying with saffiya, Abu ayyoub stayed the night at his door. when he saw the prophet in the morning, he said "Allah is great" . He had his swords with him. He said to the prophet . O messenger of Allah, this young woman had just been married, and you killed her father, her brother and her husband and I dont trust her. on which the prophet laughed and said Good"!

This is a man on which muslims claim that mohammed is the best among human beings. How can a man who is deviant in every aspect of life to be the messenger of the almighty?

[Zack]

First of all u have no understanding what ur talking about , Yes no one is deneying that the prophet destroyed the jews that colloborated with the meccans any other states would destroy traitors . As for capturing her yes she was captured but was given the choice islam or be on the right side or choose judaism and she could have lived her life free. Since the woman were not killed., so even if she had choosen to be not on the side of islam she would still not be killed.. She is the one that dreamed about to be married to the prophet


كان بعين صفية رضي الله عنها خضرة فقال لها رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «ما هذه الخضرة بعينك؟» فقالت: قلت لزوجي إني رأيت فيما يرى النائم قمرا وقع في حجري فلطمني وقال: تريدين ملك يثرب. قالت: فما كان أبغض إلي من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قتل أبي وزوجي، فما زال يعتذر إلي ويقول: «يا صفية إن أباك ألب علي العرب وفعل وفعل» حتى ذهب ذاك من نفسي

There was a green scar in an eye of Safiyya. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) asked her, ‘What is this scar in your eye?’ She said, “I mentioned before my husband my dream that a moon fell into my lap upon which he slapped me and said; ‘Do you long for the King of Yathrib [the Prophet].’” She said: ‘There was none more hateful to me than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as he had my father and husband killed. The Prophet (ﷺ), however, kept on explaining, ‘Safiya! Your father instigated the Arabs against me and did such and such.’ He kept doing so till all my harsh feelings for him vanished.’[14]






Dr Zackovich

[Deqi-Arawit]

First of all u have no understanding what ur talking about , Yes no one is deneying that the prophet destroyed the jews that colloborated with the meccans any other states would destroy traitors . As for capturing her yes she was captured but was given the choice islam or be on the right side or choose judaism and she could have lived her life free. Since the woman were not killed., so even if she had choosen to be not on the side of islam she would still not be killed.. She is the one that dreamed about to be married to the prophet


كان بعين صفية رضي الله عنها خضرة فقال لها رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: «ما هذه الخضرة بعينك؟» فقالت: قلت لزوجي إني رأيت فيما يرى النائم قمرا وقع في حجري فلطمني وقال: تريدين ملك يثرب. قالت: فما كان أبغض إلي من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قتل أبي وزوجي، فما زال يعتذر إلي ويقول: «يا صفية إن أباك ألب علي العرب وفعل وفعل» حتى ذهب ذاك من نفسي

There was a green scar in an eye of Safiyya. The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) asked her, ‘What is this scar in your eye?’ She said, “I mentioned before my husband my dream that a moon fell into my lap upon which he slapped me and said; ‘Do you long for the King of Yathrib [the Prophet].’” She said: ‘There was none more hateful to me than the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) as he had my father and husband killed. The Prophet (ﷺ), however, kept on explaining, ‘Safiya! Your father instigated the Arabs against me and did such and such.’ He kept doing so till all my harsh feelings for him vanished.’[14]

Dr Zackovich

The question is, what kind of merciful "prophet" is the one who can't control his sexual lust to have sex with a woman the same day after he killed both her father, husband and brother? Where is the compassion? where is the mercy? Here are ISIS members, Mohammed apprentice doing exactly what mohammed did 1400 years ago. If you accept wha mohammed is correct, why are you muslims denouncing or condemning what ISIS were doing and screamed that Islam has nothing to do with his kind of barbaric practice?

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[Zack]

well its wrong what isis is doing first of all Yazidis didnt pledge an alligiance to isis , so its not lawfull, thats why its wrong Yazidis didnt do anything all to muslims or to isis hence why isis is in the wrong. But the prophet was hundred percent correct to punish the jews of Khaybar hundred percent treachery gets the death penalty any where in the world , the jews of Madina the hypocrits they were they said they are with the prophet and their alligiance is with them and then they conspired with the meccans led by abu sufyan , they collaborated betrayed their oath. Islam doesnt say just kill the innocent non muslims absolutely not for centuries non muslims have lived among muslims in various islamic empires. and they have lived in arabia also Hijaaz and najd, even during the prophe in peace , But when they became a threat to the Islamic Ummah led by the prophet and they beytrayed him even according to their jewish law death is the only solution. Cant compare to isis , who go on rampage and killing spree. . Context is evertything dear lad.



Dr Zackovich