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[banebris2013]

In a short six months we witnessed a lot:
1. Amhara in diaspora declared that they will bankrupt Abiy's government by stopping remittance to Ethiopia. Where that now?
2. Fano declared they will take back "their Menelik Palace" within 24 hours. Did i miss it?
3. Basing your politics on hating a group of people is self-defeating. You can't declare hate against someone and wish to share a country with them at the same time. That is odd to say the least.
4. Amhara like anyone else has absolute right to demand justice. But justice for Amhara should not be at the expense of destroying the future of Ethiopia's existence. Few years back many Ethiopians were accusing OLF for being pro cessation. Now that accusation can be one of the options to solve the current crisis in Ethiopia.
5. Amhara standing as Amhara will be a good thing for the rest of Ethiopia. Amhara as an independent nation will be the best solution for the rest of Ethiopia. North-south east-west divide will work well for everyone involved. Amhara with Eritrea as North Ethiopia, Oromia with south, as south Ethiopia, Tigray with afar as east Ethiopia and Somali region as Ogedenia.
Ok go a head and shower me with your insult.

[BigBreak]

Amhara needs to take charge of the entire country Ethiopia and remake Ethiopia through a different kind of federalism that prohibits ethnic separatism. Every region in Ethiopia should a) be multi-ethnic or sub-ethnic but NOT mono-ethnic and b) be banned from seceding

[sarcasm]

Every region in Ethiopia should a) be multi-ethnic or sub-ethnic but NOT mono-ethnic

All Ethiopian regions are already multi-ethnic. There are over 80 ethnic groups in Ethiopia but only 11 regions, each region consisting a number of ethnic groups.

[BigBreak]

Every region in Ethiopia should a) be multi-ethnic or sub-ethnic but NOT mono-ethnic

All Ethiopian regions are already multi-ethnic. There are over 80 ethnic groups in Ethiopia but only 11 regions, each region consisting a number of ethnic groups.

But the problem we have is that some of the Ethiopian regions are each named after an ethnic group to serve as the homeland of ONLY that one ethnic group in its entirety. This backwards tribalism has no place in z 21st century

[Axumezana]

As far as FANO is under the control of Isaias, its end shall be doom!

[banebris2013]

Amhara needs to take charge of the entire country Ethiopia and remake Ethiopia through a different kind of federalism that prohibits ethnic separatism. Every region in Ethiopia should a) be multi-ethnic or sub-ethnic but NOT mono-ethnic and b) be banned from seceding

Big break,
Amhara can take charge of the entire Amhara region. Trying to remake Ethiopia in to Amhara model is like " ye qoxun awerd bila ye bibituan talech". You might not believe, but Amhara politics is only for Amhara region. It is not compatable with the concept of modern Ethiopia. You can not base your politics on hating Oromos and Tigres and want rule over them at the same time. How does that work? Fano did get a test of what will happen when they tried to occupy Mendida, not far from your beloved Debre Brian. In simple terms Amhara politics is too toxic. This is why the other regions were quite about it

[TGAA]

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of the system that exclusively designed to victmize them , and are fighting the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now shamelessly they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans them from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They will wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now, Its like putting the cart before the horse.

[sarcasm]

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

[Abere]

This is called ልክስክስ tribal stone age politics.

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

[sarcasm]

So what is modern age politics: Amhara region forcing unitary system on 80 plus nations, or the 80 plus nations forcing federal system on Amhara?

This is called ልክስክስ tribal stone age politics.

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

[banebris2013]

So what is modern age politics: Amhara region forcing unitary system on 80 plus nations, or the 80 plus nations forcing federal system on Amhara?

This is called ልክስክስ tribal stone age politics.

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

Abere's and Amhara elites definition of modern does not align with the English dictionary.

[TGAA]

So what is modern age politics: Amhara region forcing unitary system on 80 plus nations, or the 80 plus nations forcing federal system on Amhara?

This is called ልክስክስ tribal stone age politics.

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

Abere's and Amhara elites definition of modern does not align with the English dictionary.

"Amhara cannot dictate how the other 80-plus nationalities should live, just as the 80-plus nationalities cannot dictate how Amhara should live in their region. You will live in peace in the Amhara region with all your rights intact. This reality persists at all times, including the current period while the Amhara region is under attack by Oromo-dominated mercenaries.As we speak, Tigrayans are living in peace, as are Oromos in the Amhara region. However, in Oromia and in the Benshangul-Gumuz region, Amharas have been subjected to discriminatory killings while the government covers up these crimes and supports armed groups like the OLF. Now, Amharas are determined to hold accountable any group that targets its people. If you consider this stance to be domination, so be it. Those who engage in criminal activities should not have the right to live in peace, let alone govern."

[banebris2013]

So what is modern age politics: Amhara region forcing unitary system on 80 plus nations, or the 80 plus nations forcing federal system on Amhara?

This is called ልክስክስ tribal stone age politics.

The same people who demonize Amharas, who were laughing of its cry as a made up Wallow. Some the likes of Defend the lie were propagating Amharas are ethnic cleansing themselves for politicall reasons, now Amharas stood to get ride of system that exclusively designed to victmize Amhara, and fight the people who blindly supported it for 35 long years. Now they want to chart a plan how Amharas assure their survival?. Amharas know what they want to do, no need for unsolicited advise from those that have done to cleans Amharas from their own country. After Amharas secured their wellbeing, get fair share in ever aspect proportional to their demographic, and guaranteed their security and rights wherever they live. They wish the same to their fellow Ethiopans but nothing less will do. We are far from where we suppose to... Be so Let it rest for now.

The plain truth is Amhara cannot tell the rest of the 80 plus nationalities how they should live just like the the 80 plus nationalities cannot also tell Amhara how they should live in their region. If the 80 plus nationalities want to live in a federal system, Amhara have no right to stop them. If Amhra are not happy with the federal system, and the other 80 plus are happy with the federal system, then nobody can tell anybody how they should live. The 80 plus nations will live under a federal system enjoying self determination and Amhara region live under a direct rule of the central government. A hybrid system that pleases everyone! All 80 something nations have equal rights. Nobody can boss nobody.

Abere's and Amhara elites definition of modern does not align with the English dictionary.

"Amhara cannot dictate how the other 80-plus nationalities should live, just as the 80-plus nationalities cannot dictate how Amhara should live in their region. You will live in peace in the Amhara region with all your rights intact. This reality persists at all times, including the current period while the Amhara region is under attack by Oromo-dominated mercenaries.As we speak, Tigrayans are living in peace, as are Oromos in the Amhara region. However, in Oromia and in the Benshangul-Gumuz region, Amharas have been subjected to discriminatory killings while the government covers up these crimes and supports armed groups like the OLF. Now, Amharas are determined to hold accountable any group that targets its people. If you consider this stance to be domination, so be it. Those who engage in criminal activities should not have the right to live in peace, let alone govern."

Most of what you wrote hear does make sense. The problem with it is that it is based on the Amhara affiliated medias reporting and those Amhara diaspora who uses Amhara to enrich them selves. you never mention about people being burned alive while live streaming.

[banebris2013]

Every region in Ethiopia should a) be multi-ethnic or sub-ethnic but NOT mono-ethnic

All Ethiopian regions are already multi-ethnic. There are over 80 ethnic groups in Ethiopia but only 11 regions, each region consisting a number of ethnic groups.

But the problem we have is that some of the Ethiopian regions are each named after an ethnic group to serve as the homeland of ONLY that one ethnic group in its entirety. This backwards tribalism has no place in z 21st century

You used 21st century here. Is burning a human being alive while live streaming compatible with 21st century? Isn't most European countries formed along ethnic lines? You better look at yourself in the mirror first.

[Abere]

The end game of Amhara movement is to remove an imposed illegal TPLF-OLF constitution and ethnic apartheid system. In history only two countries in the world experienced ethnic apartheid system: 1) The former apartheid South Africa 2) Today’s Failed State of Ethiopia.
The Amhara movement mission is to see an Ethiopia with participatory democratic system of governance where every citizen in the country has equal right. Ethnicity has no natural right to be ownership of any land or territory. Every citizen has Ethiopian nationality, there will be no such cr@p called nations, nationalities, and peoples sh!t stuff. The OLF and TPLF cr@p will have to be bulldozed. Until that happen conflict will remain permanent and Ethiopia will remain a failed state.

No Amhara will choose to live in the existing TPLF/OLF cr@p except slave BEADEN. It is better not to be alive than see and live under the OLF sh!t Orommuma. Those who martyred themselves taking down sh!t Orommuma are proudful and lucky. The choice and the goal for Amhara are clear, let Orommuma’s know this.

[banebris2013]

The end game of Amhara movement is to remove an imposed illegal TPLF-OLF constitution and ethnic apartheid system. In history only two countries in the world experienced ethnic apartheid system: 1) The former apartheid South Africa 2) Today’s Failed State of Ethiopia.
The Amhara movement mission is to see an Ethiopia with participatory democratic system of governance where every citizen in the country has equal right. Ethnicity has no natural right to be ownership of any land or territory. Every citizen has Ethiopian nationality, there will be no such cr@p called nations, nationalities, and peoples sh!t stuff. The OLF and TPLF cr@p will have to be bulldozed. Until that happen conflict will remain permanent and Ethiopia will remain a failed state.

No Amhara will choose to live in the existing TPLF/OLF cr@p except slave BEADEN. It is better not to be alive than see and live under the OLF sh!t Orommuma. Those who martyred themselves taking down sh!t Orommuma are proudful and lucky. The choice and the goal for Amhara are clear, let Orommuma’s know this.

Amhara has a choice like everyone else. Justice should be served everywhere. Amhara has started the journey to free themselves from oromomma rule which is a good thing. Every region has to consider article 39, including Amhara region. Amhara elites politics is fit only for Amhara as it is not compatible with the concept of multicultural, multilanguage and multi religion Ethiopia. It is difficult to understand how you can hate someone to your bone and want to live with or rule over them at the same time. If you think Amhara can overrun the rest of Ethiopia like Menelik did, that is on you. Trying to overrun others might have potential disaster of making Ethiopia like Balkan.

[sarcasm]

The end game of Amhara movement is to remove an imposed illegal TPLF-OLF constitution

The 80 plus nationalities are happy with the constitution and they are thriving to enjoy every right enshrined in the constitution. From Gurage to Wolayta are asking the Killil right enshrined in the constitution. They are not asking to remove the constitution. Nobody (including Amhara) will give up the self-determination and self rule rights enshrined in the constitution. Would Fano accept to be directly ruled by the Central Government and give up self-determination and self rule rights enshrined in the constitution? Definitely No.

You are becoming out of touch with ordinary Amharas. The only party that was hopping to remove the constitution is the unitarist block. And that block has no followers in mainstream Ethiopian politics.

[BigBreak]

Banebris2013 Ethiopians have more in common than what differentiate them, all the barbaric human violations is in part rooted in the fusion of tribalism into the Ethiopian state's body politic

All the ethnic regions need to disappear and internal borders remade to split up individual ethnic groups and bring multiple ethnic groups under every region if possible. Secession must be banned and every region should be named after its most important city/town

[sarcasm]

The only thing Fano can do in Amhra region is to make the region ungovernable. Then what? I don't think they have any plans what to do with the ungovernable region rather than forcing Abiy into negotitations. But Fano is un-integrated!. Don't they think the people deserve a coherent agenda than making the region ungovernable?

The Amhara Fano movement will eventually result in Warlordism by localities of Gondar Shoa Gojam & Wello - Dr Yonas Biru