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Tog Wajale E.R.
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Re: ገብረህይወት፥ ባይከዳኝ፥ ንፁህ፥ ኢትዮጵያዊ፤

Post by Tog Wajale E.R. » 03 Aug 2023, 06:58

Lekhebatt Lemmanai Agga*me Bas*tard Prostit*ute !!!



Gummamma MushMush:- ዕስትኽ፥ ዓጋመ፥ ወዲ ዛ፥ ፋኛቱራ !!!



MushMushat Guahafat Bast*ard Prosti*tutes Agga*mes:--- Why Don't You Entertain That To Your Dedebit Woorgach Tigrayian Who*re Mother. Get Lost Now Gimmattamm Shettattam Agga*mes.

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Post by Selam/ » 03 Aug 2023, 07:33

እንደ ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወት ዓይነት ሆደሰፊና አስተዋይ ሰዎች በተፈጠሩባት አድዋ፣ እንደ መለስ ዜናዊና አክሱም ቅዘናም ዓይነት በጥላቻ የታመቁ መርዘኛ እሾኾች ተፈለፈሉባት።
Axumezana wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 06:47

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Post by justo » 03 Aug 2023, 11:57

Axumezana wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 06:47
I don't know who this monkey is, but I am almost sure he is a 19th Century version of Berhane Gebrekristos.

Meles introduced us to Michael Suhul, Sebhat Nega to Bezbiz Kassa, Getachew Asefa to Alula, Abay Tsehaye to Woldeab Woldemariam. Thanks to present-day woyane characters, we got to properly know historical characters like Michael Suhul, Bezbiz, Alula, Woldeab, etc.

Meles has helped us re-evaluate the past and its various characters.

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Post by sarcasm » 03 Aug 2023, 15:32

justo wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 11:57

I don't know who this monkey is, but I am almost sure he is a 19th Century version of Berhane Gebrekristos.

Meles introduced us to Michael Suhul, Sebhat Nega to Bezbiz Kassa, Getachew Asefa to Alula, Abay Tsehaye to Woldeab Woldemariam. Thanks to present-day woyane characters, we got to properly know historical characters like Michael Suhul, Bezbiz, Alula, Woldeab, etc.

Meles has helped us re-evaluate the past and its various characters.
Are you talking about Woldeab Woldemariam ወል-ወል- Wel Wel? Which charters of Aboy Weldeab are you lamenting?
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Post by justo » 03 Aug 2023, 15:57

sarcasm wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 15:32
justo wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 11:57

I don't know who this monkey is, but I am almost sure he is a 19th Century version of Berhane Gebrekristos.

Meles introduced us to Michael Suhul, Sebhat Nega to Bezbiz Kassa, Getachew Asefa to Alula, Abay Tsehaye to Woldeab Woldemariam. Thanks to present-day woyane characters, we got to properly know historical characters like Michael Suhul, Bezbiz, Alula, Woldeab, etc.

Meles has helped us re-evaluate the past and its various characters.
Are you talking about Woldeab Woldemariam ወል-ወል- Wel Wel? Which charters of Aboy Weldeab are you lamenting?
Eritreans are trusting people, we swallowed his ትችዓተ ሳዕ ቶኪሶም ሲሒቶምኒ ኤርትራዉያን, as if Eritreans miss. That kind of fairy tale wouldn't have worked among his people in Tigray.

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Post by Selam/ » 03 Aug 2023, 17:54

ዝንጀሮ አልከው ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወትን በዝንጀሮ አይንህ እያየኸው? ለኢትዮጵያ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ ካደረጉት ቀደምት አባቶች አንዱ ነው። ኖራ በጥብጦ በአንድ ሰዓት ውስጥ ሊፈጥርህ የሚችል ሰው ነበር።
justo wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 11:57
Axumezana wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 06:47
I don't know who this monkey is, but I am almost sure he is a 19th Century version of Berhane Gebrekristos.

Meles introduced us to Michael Suhul, Sebhat Nega to Bezbiz Kassa, Getachew Asefa to Alula, Abay Tsehaye to Woldeab Woldemariam. Thanks to present-day woyane characters, we got to properly know historical characters like Michael Suhul, Bezbiz, Alula, Woldeab, etc.

Meles has helped us re-evaluate the past and its various characters.

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Post by justo » 04 Aug 2023, 00:53

Selam/ wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 17:54
ዝንጀሮ አልከው ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወትን በዝንጀሮ አይንህ እያየኸው? ለኢትዮጵያ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ ካደረጉት ቀደምት አባቶች አንዱ ነው። ኖራ በጥብጦ በአንድ ሰዓት ውስጥ ሊፈጥርህ የሚችል ሰው ነበር።
Your great grandchildren will say the same thing about Berhane Gebrekristos and Sebhat Nega. Specially about Sebhat they will say, Negadras Sebhat Nega was a multibillionaire and an economic genius who with sheer will power out of nothing created the biggest conglomerate in Africa. Negadras Sebhat Nega, unlike other billionaires, used his money to uplift the poor, but Ethiopians got jealous of his success and wouldn't let him realise his plans for modernising the country, why Negadras Nega had to end his life in exile in the US.

Parables are used to help children understand things and appreciate facts

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Post by Meleket » 04 Aug 2023, 09:46

አንድ አብርሃም ብርሃነ የተባለ ጸሓፊ ስለ ባላምባራስ አሸብር ገብረሕይወት ባይከዳኝ በ31/12/2021 በጻፈው ጽሑፉ ያስነበበን ነገር ነበር። ነጋድራስ ገብረሕይወት ባይከዳኝ በወጣትነት ዕድሚያቸው መሞታቸውና ልጅ እንደሌላቸው በሰፊው ቢነገርም፡ ይህ ልጃቸው ስሟ ካልተጠቀሰች አንዲት ጎንደሬ መወለዱን ገልጿል። ባላምባራስ አሸብር ቢያንስ ቢያስ እስከ 6 መጸሓፎችን እንደጻፉ፡ በግብጽ ሃገር የህግ ትምህርት እንደተማሩም ጠቅሷል የዛሬ ዘጠና ምናምን ዓመታት ማለት ነው። ታሪኩን እዚህ ገብታችሁ ኮምኩም።

ስለ ባላምባራስ አሸብር ገብረሕይወት ባይከዳኝ
http://www.togoruba.org/togoruba1964/ma ... 2-03AT.pdf

ስለ ነጋድራስ ገብረሕይወት ባይከዳኝ ደግሞ ምስላቸው ምን ይመስል ኣንደነበር ለማዬት ይህን አንብቡ
https://www.togoruba.org/togoruba1964/m ... 2-04AT.pdf

አቶ ጳውሎስ መንአመኖ ለጃንሆይ በጻፉት መልእኽታቸው “የነጋድራስ ገብረ ሕይወት ስሙ እንዳይጠፋ ማሰብዎንማ በገንዘብዎ ልጁን ከትምህርት ቤት አግብተው በማስተማርዎ ተረድተነዋል። ደግሞም ልጁን ቢያስተምሩለት ጥቅሙ ለልጁ ብቻ ነው። ይህን መጸሓፉን ቢያሳትሙለት ግን አስቀድሞ ለስሙ መታሰቢያ ይሆናል። ቀትሎም ለመንግሥትዎና ለህዝብዎ ሁሉ ትልቅ ጥቅም የሚያስገኝ ነውና ለማሳተሙ ፈቃድዎ እንዲሆን አጥብቄ ኣለምንዎታለው።” በማለት የወዳጃቸው የምርምር ስራ እንዲታተም መጠየቃቸው ይታወቃል።

ነጋድራስ ገብረሕይወት “የመንግሥትና የሕዝብ አስተዳደር” የሚል ርእስ በሰጡት መጸሓፋቸው፡ ስለ ኤረር የአሁኗ አዲስ አበባ በምኒልክ በቅርቡ ስለመቆርቆሯና ጥንት ኤረር ትባልና በኢትዮጵያውያን እጅ የለማ ሃገር እንደነበር ጠቁመውናል። ቀጥለውም “የዕውቀታቸው ደረጃ ዝቅ ያለ ሁኖ የእርሻን ስራ ኣለመዱም ነበር” (ገጽ ፴፰)በማለት የጠቀሷቸው የኅብረተሰብ ክፍሎች፡ “"ገዳ" የተባለ አገር በቀል የአስተዳደር ስርዓት” የነበራቸው ኅብረተሰብ እንደሆኑ በጭራሽ አልጠቀሱልንም። የዕውቀት ደረጃስ በእርሻ ስራ ብቻ ነው እንዴ የሚለካው? የሚል ጥያቄም ልናጭር እንችላለን . . . ይህ ዬሚያሳየውን ነጋድራሱ የውጭ ሃገር ትምህርት መቅሰማቸውና የደቡቡን የኢትዮጵያ ክፍል ታሪክ በቅጡ ያውቁ እንዳልነበር፡ ዕድሜያቸውን ግምት ውስጥ ስናስገባም በ31 ዓመታቸው ማለፋቸውን ግምት ውስጥ ስናስገባ ይህ ክስተት ሊያጋጥም እንደሚችልም ገምተናል።

ነጋድራሱ በጽሑፋቸው እንዲህም ብለዋል፦

"የኤሮፓ ሰዎች ባገራችን ከመጡና ከገቡ ወዲህ እንኳን ዕውቀት ልንጨምር ኣባቶቻችንም ያቈዩልንን ሥራ ሁሉ ግማሹን ዛሬውኑ ረስተነዋል።" ገጽ፹

ያን ሁሉ የምርምር ውጤታቸውን ግን ታድያ ለምን አውሮፓ ሳይሄዱ በፊት ጽፈው አላሳተሙትም ኣንላቸውም: ምክንያቱም ይህን ዋንኛ የመንግሥትና የሕዝብ ኣተዳደር ትምህርታቸውን የቀሰሙት በውጭ ሃገር ትምህርት በመሆኑ፡ አገር በቀል እውቀትን እናጎልብት ማለት መልካም ሆኖ ሳለ የኣውሮፓን ትምህርት ለማቆናጸብ መሞከር ተገቢ አልነበረም።

ነጋድራስ ገብረሕይወት የልጃቸው ስም አሸብር፡ የአባታቸው ስም ባይከዳኝ የሚል መሆኑ ሲመረመር፡ እንዲሁም የተወለዱት በአዲስ አበባ መሆኑ ግምት ውስጥ ሲገባ፡ ሰዉየው የግድ ከዓድዋ ናቸው ዬሚለው ድምዳሜም ሊመረመር እንደሚገባ በቀልድ መልክ ለማስገንዘብ ነው። ይህ በእንዲህ እንዳለ ሰዉየው ከዓድዋም ይሁኑ ከጎንደር እንዲሁም ከአዲስ አበባ "ኢትዮጵያዊ ምሁር ነበሩ" ማለቱ ያስኬዳል፡ ምክንያቱም ንጹህና ቆሻሻ ብሎ ዜጋን መለያየት ተገቢ ባለመሆኑ። . . . ይህ ጽሑፍ ዓላማው ለተመራማሪዎች እንጂ ለተራ ጎጠኛ ካድሪዎች አይደለም ብለናል እኛ ኤርትራውያን የመሃልና የመስመር ዳኞች፡ በኤርትራዊ ጭዋነት ኩራትና ትህትና ጭምር።
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Post by Selam/ » 04 Aug 2023, 21:51

ሰውዬው ማን እንደሆነ እንኳን ሳታውቅ እኮ ነው “ይኸ ዝንዠሮ ደግሞ ማነው?“ ያልከው። አሁን ለማጨናበር ጉፋያ ስብሃት ነጋን ከጉያህ ውስጥ ጎርጉረህ አውጥተህ ከጉዳዩ ጋር ምንም የማይገናኝ ዉይይት ውስጥ ጨመርከው።

ምንም መረጃ ሳይኖርህ በተቆለመመ አእምሮ ምላስህን ከመምዘዝ ተቆጠብ። ነውር ነው!

justo wrote:
04 Aug 2023, 00:53
Selam/ wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 17:54
ዝንጀሮ አልከው ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወትን በዝንጀሮ አይንህ እያየኸው? ለኢትዮጵያ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ ካደረጉት ቀደምት አባቶች አንዱ ነው። ኖራ በጥብጦ በአንድ ሰዓት ውስጥ ሊፈጥርህ የሚችል ሰው ነበር።
Your great grandchildren will say the same thing about Berhane Gebrekristos and Sebhat Nega. Specially about Sebhat they will say, Negadras Sebhat Nega was a multibillionaire and an economic genius who with sheer will power out of nothing created the biggest conglomerate in Africa. Negadras Sebhat Nega, unlike other billionaires, used his money to uplift the poor, but Ethiopians got jealous of his success and wouldn't let him realise his plans for modernising the country, why Negadras Nega had to end his life in exile in the US.

Parables are used to help children understand things and appreciate facts

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Post by justo » 05 Aug 2023, 12:18

Selam/ wrote:
04 Aug 2023, 21:51
ሰውዬው ማን እንደሆነ እንኳን ሳታውቅ እኮ ነው “ይኸ ዝንዠሮ ደግሞ ማነው?“ ያልከው። አሁን ለማጨናበር ጉፋያ ስብሃት ነጋን ከጉያህ ውስጥ ጎርጉረህ አውጥተህ ከጉዳዩ ጋር ምንም የማይገናኝ ዉይይት ውስጥ ጨመርከው።

ምንም መረጃ ሳይኖርህ በተቆለመመ አእምሮ ምላስህን ከመምዘዝ ተቆጠብ። ነውር ነው!
justo wrote:
04 Aug 2023, 00:53
Selam/ wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 17:54
ዝንጀሮ አልከው ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወትን በዝንጀሮ አይንህ እያየኸው? ለኢትዮጵያ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ ካደረጉት ቀደምት አባቶች አንዱ ነው። ኖራ በጥብጦ በአንድ ሰዓት ውስጥ ሊፈጥርህ የሚችል ሰው ነበር።
Your great grandchildren will say the same thing about Berhane Gebrekristos and Sebhat Nega. Specially about Sebhat they will say, Negadras Sebhat Nega was a multibillionaire and an economic genius who with sheer will power out of nothing created the biggest conglomerate in Africa. Negadras Sebhat Nega, unlike other billionaires, used his money to uplift the poor, but Ethiopians got jealous of his success and wouldn't let him realise his plans for modernising the country, why Negadras Nega had to end his life in exile in the US.

Parables are used to help children understand things and appreciate facts
Children understand at best only the present. We use parables to help children like you understand the past, to see parallels between the past and the present. You think Sebhat Nega is only part of your present, he is also your window to the past

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Post by Selam/ » 05 Aug 2023, 12:37

ጀግናው - ቀድመህ አንብብ ተመራመር ፣ ስለማታውቀው ነገር ከመናገርህ በፊት። ሌላ ነገር አትዘባርቅ።
justo wrote:
05 Aug 2023, 12:18
Selam/ wrote:
04 Aug 2023, 21:51
ሰውዬው ማን እንደሆነ እንኳን ሳታውቅ እኮ ነው “ይኸ ዝንዠሮ ደግሞ ማነው?“ ያልከው። አሁን ለማጨናበር ጉፋያ ስብሃት ነጋን ከጉያህ ውስጥ ጎርጉረህ አውጥተህ ከጉዳዩ ጋር ምንም የማይገናኝ ዉይይት ውስጥ ጨመርከው።

ምንም መረጃ ሳይኖርህ በተቆለመመ አእምሮ ምላስህን ከመምዘዝ ተቆጠብ። ነውር ነው!
justo wrote:
04 Aug 2023, 00:53
Selam/ wrote:
03 Aug 2023, 17:54
ዝንጀሮ አልከው ነጋድራስ ገብረ ህይወትን በዝንጀሮ አይንህ እያየኸው? ለኢትዮጵያ ትልቅ አስተዋጾ ካደረጉት ቀደምት አባቶች አንዱ ነው። ኖራ በጥብጦ በአንድ ሰዓት ውስጥ ሊፈጥርህ የሚችል ሰው ነበር።
Your great grandchildren will say the same thing about Berhane Gebrekristos and Sebhat Nega. Specially about Sebhat they will say, Negadras Sebhat Nega was a multibillionaire and an economic genius who with sheer will power out of nothing created the biggest conglomerate in Africa. Negadras Sebhat Nega, unlike other billionaires, used his money to uplift the poor, but Ethiopians got jealous of his success and wouldn't let him realise his plans for modernising the country, why Negadras Nega had to end his life in exile in the US.

Parables are used to help children understand things and appreciate facts
Children understand at best only the present. We use parables to help children like you understand the past, to see parallels between the past and the present. You think Sebhat Nega is only part of your present, he is also your window to the past

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Post by justo » 06 Aug 2023, 12:32

Selam/ wrote:
05 Aug 2023, 12:37
ምንም መረጃ ሳይኖርህ በተቆለመመ አእምሮ ምላስህን ከመምዘዝ ተቆጠብ። ነውር ነው!
Historical figures seem to be larger than life to children who can only understand the present.

The monkey in the picture was a real life person in his days, and probably cheated and lied his way to prominence just like Siye and Abay tried to do in your days. Having experienced the lies of Meles and his friends, the lies of tagay Paulos and his minions, I never give a pass to a person simply because he lived 200 years ago.

Remember, had the monkey lived today he would be 30 and not 230 years old, and most probably would have been a mid-level woyane functionary or a member of Baytona or Salsay woyane, or spewing lies from TMH like Alula. So he is not going to get a pass from me, just because you call him negadras.

BTW, I am a phrenologist and can read character from physiognomy

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Post by Selam/ » 06 Aug 2023, 12:51

Kid - If you are one of those children who can only understand the present, then you’re a lost cause and piece of garbage! Use your brain to see beyond the surface and strive to heal yourself from collective hatred and prejudice. Grow up!

justo wrote:
06 Aug 2023, 12:32
Selam/ wrote:
05 Aug 2023, 12:37
ምንም መረጃ ሳይኖርህ በተቆለመመ አእምሮ ምላስህን ከመምዘዝ ተቆጠብ። ነውር ነው!
Historical figures seem to be larger than life to children who can only understand the present.

The monkey in the picture was a real life person in his days, and probably cheated and lied his way to prominence just like Siye and Abay tried to do in your days. Having experienced the lies of Meles and his friends, the lies of tagay Paulos and his minions, I never give a pass to a person simply because he lived 200 years ago.

Remember, had the monkey lived today he would be 30 and not 230 years old, and most probably would have been a mid-level woyane functionary or a member of Baytona or Salsay woyane, or spewing lies from TMH like Alula. So he is not going to get a pass from me, just because you call him negadras.

BTW, I am a phrenologist and can read character from physiognomy

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