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Lets be honest - ትግራይ ብዙ ቅዱሳንን አበርክታለች:: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት

Post by Misraq » 11 Jul 2023, 17:48

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Until TPLF converted all its people and these monks to Abiotawi MLLT (Marxist Lenninist League Tigray)



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Post by Zmeselo » 11 Jul 2023, 18:01

Ok, let's see:

1. They lied for centuries, about the Ark being in chgray of all places. :lol:

2. They gave Ethiopia an atom- bomb called the Kebra Negast, which led to the deification of Emperors.

3. And lately, we saw their priests wielding AK's.

Surely, Jesus would be happy. :roll:

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Post by Wedi » 11 Jul 2023, 18:38

Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 17:48
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Until TPLF converted all its people and these monks to Abiotawi MLLT (Marxist Lenninist League Tigray)


Misraq lol

ትግራይ ውስጥ ሃይማኖት የሚባል ነገር እንደለለ ካውቁ ቆየሁ!!

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Post by Misraq » 11 Jul 2023, 19:48

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Brother Wedi,

The archbishop of axum sodomizes the archbishop of Temben. and the archbishop of Temben in his turn gets his d!ck sucked by the archbishop of Enderta. The archbishop of Enderta then licks the [deleted] archbishop of Shire. This is how religion is manifested in Tigray. Very unique in its nature :lol:

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Post by Union » 11 Jul 2023, 19:51

What the hell do you mean by atomic bomb and Kibre Negest? And the tigreans gave to Ethiopians what? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Zmeselo wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 18:01
Ok, let's see:

1. They lied for centuries, about the Ark being in chgray of all places. :lol:

2. They gave Ethiopia an atom- bomb called the Kebra Negast, which led to the deification of Emperors.

3. And lately, we saw their priests wielding AK's.

Surely, Jesus would be happy. :roll:

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Post by Zmeselo » 11 Jul 2023, 21:18



Ethiopia's Queen of Sheba and the Ark of the Covenant Myth

By: Admin

http://www.madote.com/2010/09/ethiopias ... f.html?m=1

13 years ago

Very few queens have evoked passionate sentiments, the way the mythical Queen of Sheba has.

Her legacy transcends nation-states, continents, and even religious affiliation. The exact geographical origin of Queen of Sheba, has been highly contested. Even Sheba's exact name, is not agreed upon. For Yemenis and Arabs in the Arabian Peninsula, her name was "Bilqis". For Christian Ethiopians, her name was "Makeda", while the ancient Roman historian Josephus styled her as "Nicaule".

Despite all these claims and counter-claims as to where her origins lay or as to what her name was, there hasn't been any tangible evidence to her very existence.
The legendary Queen of Sheba has spawned hundreds of films and thousands of books. she is the equal only of the great Egyptian Queen Cleopatra, who died with the aid of a serpent. There are few females in history who have captured mankind's imagination in such a way. Her story has been repeated many times and in many contexts, but there isn't a scrap of evidence for her existence, apart from the religious writings of the Bible, Koran, the Kebra Negast, and a few others. Like Solomon, Sheba's real name is an enigma.
GNOSIS, By Gardiner, Philip, p. 233 http://books.google.com/books?id=qY6wkf ... ed&f=false

Out of all the nations that claim her, she has the most profound impact upon Ethiopians. For them, this mythical queen is the founder of their Ethiopian civilization and one who's cherished and beloved by their Christian population. Ethiopia's account of the Queen of Sheba is seen as the first ancestor of Ethiopia's imperial kings, known as the "Solomonic Dynasty". The Queen of Sheba is seen as the founding ancestor of this imperial line and the beginning of Ethiopia's cherished 3,000 year historical claim.

According to Christian Ethiopians, upon visiting Jerusalem, Sheba was seduced by Solomon, and gave birth to their son of Menelik. After Menelik grew older, he would end up journeying back to Jerusalem to visit his father Solomon and subsequently stole the Ark of the Covenant to Aksum, where it resides in St. Mary of Zion Church.

So does Christian Ethiopians' claims hold up? Well for starters, in order for Christian Ethiopians to even begin to claim the mytical figure of queen of Sheba, they would need to have archeological evidence unequivocally demonstrating a settled-civilization or a kingdom taking place in their region around the time Sheba was supposedly to be in existence.

Sheba's existence is believed to be around the 10th century BC or 3,000 years ago. Unfortunately for Christian Ethiopians, there isn't any kingdom, village, house, a single structure, or a settled-civilization found within Ethiopia that dates to that time period. We know now that the oldest settled civilization in the horn of Africa is found in the outskirts of the Eritrean capital of Asmara, and that only dates to 2,800 years of age. Even if Ethiopians claimed ancient Ona site of Eritrea as their own, they would still be short by two centuries to even start discussing the Queen of Sheba myth.
He and his colleagues revealed that between 800 BC and 400 BC, the highlands around Asmara supported the earliest settled pastoral and agricultural community known in the Horn of Africa: an indigenous culture.
New discoveries in Africa change face of history, by Professor Peter Ridgway Schmidt http://www.shaebia.org/articles/new_dis ... frica.html



Interestingly enough, not a single kingdom of the horn of Africa region that were established much later in history ever mentions Sheba or the Ark of the Covenant in the numerous texts they left behind. So when did these fictional historical claims by Christian Ethiopians of the Amhara and Tigray ethnic groups begin?

According to professor Petet Shchmidt, the Queen of Sheba myth first entered what is now known as Ethiopia at the end of the 13th century AD. The inhabitants of that region learned about this fable from Arabia and recreated the story to fit their own political needs so to further strengthen their own political tale and conquest over other regions.
In the 13th century, the Christian highlanders even borrowed from Arabia and adapted the fable of the Queen of Sheba with which to further their own conquests and political tale. They developed what was to become known as the Solomonic myth.
New discoveries in Africa change face of history, by Professor Peter Ridgway Schmidt http://www.shaebia.org/articles/new_dis ... frica.html

According to the historian and author Harold Marcus, the queen of Sheba myth adopted by Christian Ethiopians was originally created to legitimize Yukuno Amlak's rule of the late 13th century AD who had killed the Zagwa king to obtain power.
As a usurper, the new monarch encountered considerable resistance, and, in order to win over Tigray with its many Axumite traditions, he and his supporters began to circulate a fable about his descent from King Solomon and Makeda, Queen of Shaba, and their son Emperor Menelik-I, a genealogy that, of course, gave him traditional legitimacy and provided him the continuity so honored in Ethiopian's subsequent national history.
A History of Ethiopia, by Harold Marcus p. 16 http://books.google.com/books?id=jX7-0R ... ny&f=false

Marcus goes on to add that six Tigrayan scribes mixed local and regional oral traditions, with Biblical stories, adding various Jewish and Islamic commentaries and complied it in a self-serving factious book called Kebra Negest.
....Kebre Negast (The glory of the kings), it is a pastiche of legends conflated early in the fourteenth century by six Tigrayan scribes. Yishak, the chief compiler, claimed that he and his colleagues were merely translating an Arabic version of a Coptic work into Ge'ez. In fact his team blended local and regional oral traditions and style and substance derived from the Old and the New Testament, various apocryphal texts, Jews and Islamic commentaries, and Patristic writings. The Kebra Negest's primer goal was to legitimize the ascendancy of Emperor Yukuno Amlak and the 'restored' Solomonic line. Most of the book is therefore purposely devoted to the parentage of Emperor Menelik-I.
A History of Ethiopia, by Harold Marcus page 17 http://books.google.com/books?id=jX7-0R ... &q&f=false

The historian Edward ullendroff describes the uninterrupted lines of kings descending from Menelik-I, who was according to Christian Ethiopians, the son of King Solomon and the Queen of Sheba, as a "historical fiction" that has become a powerful and influential saga among Christian-Ethiopians.
the historical fiction of uninterrupted line of Kings descended from Menelik-I, the son of King Solomon and Queen Sheba, has very deep roots in Ethiopia and must be one of the most powerful and influential sagas anywhere in the world.
The Ethiopians: An Introduction to Country and People‎, by Edward Ullendorff, P. 61 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo= ... =&gs_rfai=

One claim Christian Ethiopians have used to support their queen of Sheba myth and Ark of the Covenant story is the fact that there are Ethiopians of Jewish faith, whom are traditionally known as "Falashas" (outsiders) or as the Jewish-Ethiopians would like to be called, "Beta-Israel".

According to Christian Ethiopians, these are the people who came from Israel when the Ark was stolen by Menelik-I from Solomon's kingdom. However, recent DNA tests have proven without a shadow of a doubt that these Ethiopians who practice the Jewish faith have no genetic ties to Israel. These Ethiopian Jews may have converted to Judaism after coming into contact with Jewish merchants from Yemen, sometime around the time the Aksumite kingdom went into decline.
DNA samples from Beta Israel/Falasha Jews and Ethiopians were studied with the Y-Chromosome-specific DNA probe p49a to screen for TapI restriction polymorphism and haplotypes. Two haplotypes (V and XI) are the most widespread in Beta Israel and Ethiopians, representing about 70% of the total number of haplotypes in Ethiopia. Because the Jewish Haplotypes VII and VIII are not represented in the Falasha population, we conclude that these people descended from ancient inhabitants of Ethiopia who converted to Judaism.
DNA & tradition: the genetic link to the ancient Hebrews By Yaakov Kleiman, p.83 http://books.google.com/books?id=UNczHm ... el&f=false

Although it's claimed by Christian-Ethiopians the Ark is never shown to anyone outside of the priest who guards it, historical fact is, it has been shown. In fact, Professor Edward Ullendroff, an authority on Ethiopian history and religious scholarly had obtained access to see Ethiopia's ark in 1941 and he dismissed it as a "fabrication".

He went on to describe the Ethiopian ark as nothing more than a wooden box, that was empty inside, and one that was of middle to late medieval construction. Ullendorff went on to say that the priests and the Ethiopian government keep perpetuating an aura of mystery around the ark
mostly to maintain the idea that it's a venerated object.
.....Professor Edward Ullendroff, the first incumbent of the only chair of Ethiopian Studies in Great Britain. His book Ethiopia and the Bible, published by Oxford University Press, is acknowledged as the classic scholarly work in the field on religion in Ethiopia. When Graham Hancok's book on the Ark in Ethiopia, the Sign and the Seal, was first released, the press sought Ullendroff as an expert to give his evaluation of Hancock's theory. In an interview with the Los Angeles Times, Ullendroff, after calling Handcock's book "a sad joke," declared that he had personally seen the object in Axum:
They have a wooden Box, but it's empty....Middle to late medieval construction, when these were fabricated ad hoc.
Ullendorff went on to say that the priests and the government perpetuate an aura of mystery around the object
mostly to maintain the idea that it's a venerated object.
Yet Hancock and Cornuke, as well as other Westerners who have visited the site, have claimed that no one is permitted to enter the church and view the Ark.

Ullendrof, to the contrary, say this is simply because they were Westerners who had no knowledge of Ethiopian language or customs:
I've seen it. There was no problem getting access when I saw it in 1941....You need to be able to speak their language, classical Ge'ez; you need to be able to show that you're serious.
Therefore, according to this expert witness, the object in Axum is a medieval relic that can be viewed by anyone who the priests choose to let see it.

Because the Kebra Negast supports the claim of the royal house, it has become the national epic of the country and the possession of its "ark" is essential to maintaining Abyssinian Christian supercession. It is also held to be the Ark by the "Faithful" and generally acknowledged as such by the entire population who regard it as part of their national pride. Therefore, regardless what is in the Axum chapel, the Ethiopians still claim it is the Ark.
Searching for the Ark of the Covenant By Randall Price, page, 177. http://books.google.com/books?id=fTTwrC ... ss&f=false

In reference to the Queen of Sheba and the subsquent claim of the Ark of the Covenant, the historian Smith Hempstone reminds people that historians and archaeologist generally agree the Ethiopian claims are "complete fabrication":
Historians and archaeologists are generally agreed that the whole story is a complete fabrication.
Africa, angry young giant, by Smith Hempstone, page. 69 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo= ... =&gs_rfai=

Professor Tudor Parfitt has dedicated many years of his life to studying the Ark and visiting various locations around the World, including Ethiopia, to investigate the people that claim it. In his book, The Lost Ark of the Covenant: Solving the 2,500-Year-Old Mystery of the Fabled Biblical Ark, he states there isn't any evidence that the queen of Sheba ever existed and like so many other scholars, he dismisses the claims by Christian Ethiopians that the Ark of the covenant is in Ethiopia. Professor Parfitt believes "without a shadow of doubt" that the Ark being held at St. Mary of Zion Church in Aksum, Ethiopia is a "fake" and one without any "antiquity".
The majority of the Amhara claimed that the Queen of Sheba, who was an Ethiopian queen, visited King Solomon in Jerusalem, where she became pregnant by the great king. In due course the Ark was stolen by their son Menelik, the first emperor of Ethiopia. For the Christian Amhara the story of the Ark was their foundation myth, like it was the foundation myth of no other society on Earth.

But was there any historical basis to these tales? In Arab folklore the Queen of Sheba is called Bilqis and is associated with the pre-Islamic south Arabian kingdom of Saba. In fact there is no evidence at all that the Queen of Sheba ever existed. However, her alleged union with Solomon generated countless legends throughout the world. In the Ethiopian retelling of these legends, the story and the substance of the Ark had become deformed. At the most it had become a pretty, Christian altar box with crosses on it. It was used to celebrate the Christian sacrament. It had been metamorphosed into something tame, domesticated, safe, and obviously far from the Ark of Moses. It had been transformed into something it was not.

There was not the slightest indication that the object in the chapel of the St. Mary of Zion Church in Aksum had any great antiquity or was connected with the original Ark or with original Arks in any way. Quite the contrary: it has been proved without a shadow of doubt that it did not.

But even conceptually, this fake, Christian Ark described by Abu Salih, and something even more ornate described by later visitors to Aksum, was not the Ark I was seeking. It was not the Ark.
The Lost Ark of the Covenant: Solving the 2,500-Year-Old Mystery of the Fabled Biblical Ark by Professor Tudor Parfitt, page 72-73 http://books.google.com/books?id=FJqtvs ... y.&f=false

All in all, we may never know if Queen of Sheba or King Solomon ever existed outside of the imaginations crafty scripture writers or imaginative oral tradition story tellers. Furthermore, the Ethiopian claim of Queen of Sheba and the Ark of the covenant being present in Ethiopia is one that holds no merit. This fictional myth clearly started in the 13th century AD to legitimize Yukuno Amlak's rule, who had murdered his way to power. Yet despite the Ethiopian claims being undoubtedly fake, one can not overlook the power it has within Christian Ethiopians. Nevertheless, for many Christian Ethiopians they will continue to believe their oral traditions, even with the fact that their claims have been thoroughly dismissed.


Image of the Ark of the covenant is courtesy of Peter's Scribd publication, 'The Lord of the Harvest'.







union wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 19:51
What the hell do you mean by atomic bomb and Kibre Negest? And the tigreans gave to Ethiopians what? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Zmeselo wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 18:01
Ok, let's see:

1. They lied for centuries, about the Ark being in chgray of all places. :lol:

2. They gave Ethiopia an atom- bomb called the Kebra Negast, which led to the deification of Emperors.

3. And lately, we saw their priests wielding AK's.

Surely, Jesus would be happy. :roll:

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Post by Fiyameta » 11 Jul 2023, 23:11

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

ወደ ትግራይ ተመለስ። እሷ ክርክር የሚበዛባት አገር ናትና ትምህርት አልተማረችም። የጽድቅ ስራንም አልሰራችም። ምክርን አልተመከረችም። መገሠጽን አልተገሠጸችም። ያለምክር ነበረችና ስደትና ችግር አንበጣ ካቦ ትልና አይጥ ይበዛባታልና፡ መብረቅ አውሎ ነፋስና ጭጋግ የፀሃይ ሐሩር ብርድ ጤዛ ይበዛባታል፡ ፍቅርና ሰላም የላትም።





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Post by Misraq » 11 Jul 2023, 23:37

Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

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Post by Zmeselo » 12 Jul 2023, 03:13

As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

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Post by Misraq » 12 Jul 2023, 06:20

Zemso,

Since when do cadres of your calibre started to radiate knowledge? Emse fit

Union

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Post by Union » 12 Jul 2023, 12:07

Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

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Post by Zmeselo » 12 Jul 2023, 14:40

You got knowledge, decayed-[deleted]?

Ok, debunk the article.
:lol:

Misraq wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 06:20
Zemso,

Since when do cadres of your calibre started to radiate knowledge? Emse fit

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Post by Fiyameta » 12 Jul 2023, 15:25

Here's the evil agame Misraq :P :P :P :P



በተጠና መልኩ በአማራ ክልል ውስጥ የሽብር ተግባር ለመፈጸም ተልእኮ ተቀብለው ወደ ክልሉ ሰርገው የገቡ 85 የጥፋት ሃይሎች በቁጥጥር ስር ዋሉ።

የአማራ ክልል ርእሰ መስተዳድሩ አቶ ተመስገን ጥሩነህ እንደገለጹት ከሆነ የጥፋት ኃይሎቹ የክልሉን ሰላም በማደፍረስ ክልሉን የግጭት ቀጠና ለማድረግ ተልእኮ ተቀብለው ሲንቀሳቀሱ የነበሩ ናቸው።
ጸረ-ሰላም ኃይሎቹ በክልሉ በተለያዩ አካባቢዎች ሰርገው የገቡት ጸበልተኛ፣ መነኩሴና የአዕምሮ ሕሙማን በመምሰል ቢሆንም እኩይ ዓላማቸውን ሳያሳኩ በሕብረተሰቡ ትብብርና ጥቆማ በቁጥጥር ስር መዋላቸው ታውቋል፡፡

ጸጉረ ልውጥ የጥፋት ኃይሎቹ ታዋቂ ሰዎችንና ከፍተኛ አመራሮችን የመግደል፤ በሃይማኖት ተቋማትና በታሪካዊ ቅርሶች ላይ ጉዳት ለማድረስ እቅድ ይዘው የገቡ መሆናቸውን የጠቆሙት ርዕሰ መስተዳደሩ፤ “ለውጡ የገፋቸው ህወሓቶች ሕዝብን ከሕዝብ በማጋጨት ዳግም ወደ ሥልጣናቸው ለመመለስ ሌት ተቀን እየሠሩ በመሆናቸው፤ እኩይ ሴራቸውን በማክሸፍ ሕዝቡ የጀመረውን ተሳትፎ አጠናክሮ ሊቀጥል ይገባል” ብለዋል።


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Post by Zmeselo » 12 Jul 2023, 17:02

Mejnun- these white men were invited into ur country as known scholars, accorded all the honor & respect and allowed to travel around freely and do their research.

No Ethiopian scholar has ever dared go against their findings, either.

So what are you telling me, disunion? :lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 12:07
Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

Union

Re: Lets be honest - ትግራይ ብዙ ቅዱሳንን አበርክታለች:: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት

Post by Union » 12 Jul 2023, 18:25

You are exactly saying what I would expect you to say. You can believe in whatever the whites tell you, it is non of my businesses.

But, we Ethiopians have our own history and manuscripts that were never manipulated by the west. We know we have the truth! The west has always been just trying to copy from us.

There is a reason why ETHIOPIA has been uncolonized. They could not have the ability to search for and bring out our historical information/evidences and destroy them. Thanks to our warrior ancestors for keep us untouched!

The Ethiopian truth is superior over both the Afrocentric and the Eurocentric views/facts!!!! We are way older than them too! :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 17:02
Mejnun- these white men were invited into ur country as known scholars, accorded all the honor & respect and allowed to travel around freely and do their research.

No Ethiopian scholar has ever dared go against their findings, either.

So what are you telling me, disunion? :lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 12:07
Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

Zmeselo
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Posts: 37345
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Re: Lets be honest - ትግራይ ብዙ ቅዱሳንን አበርክታለች:: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት

Post by Zmeselo » 12 Jul 2023, 19:33

I think I must shout it at you, cos you're too dumb.

I doubt you even read the article, to begin with.

"White men....white men..." blah...blah...

THOSE WHITE MEN, DIDN'T SNEAK-IN INTO UR COUNTRY.

THEY WERE THERE OFFICIALLY TO DO THEIR RESEARCH, UNCHALLENGED & UNMOLESTED. THEY WROTE BOOKS ABOUT IT AND NONE OF YOUR- "we Ethiopians"- CAME OUT TO CHALLENGE THEIR CLAIMS!

Why not, Stupido?

Ullendroff, for instance, was saying what he said during the reign of Haile Selassie. Have you heard HS or his gov't, denounce Ullendroff?

Crickets!

But an Eritrean, you feel it's ok to attempt to belittle and harass. :lol:

Typical, junta-Kunta.


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 18:25
You are exactly saying what I would expect you to say. You can believe in whatever the whites tell you, it is non of my businesses.

But, we Ethiopians have our own history and manuscripts that were never manipulated by the west. We know we have the truth! The west has always been just trying to copy from us.

There is a reason why ETHIOPIA has been uncolonized. They could not have the ability to search for and bring out our historical information/evidences and destroy them. Thanks to our warrior ancestors for keep us untouched!

The Ethiopian truth is superior over both the Afrocentric and the Eurocentric views/facts!!!! We are way older than them too! :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 17:02
Mejnun- these white men were invited into ur country as known scholars, accorded all the honor & respect and allowed to travel around freely and do their research.

No Ethiopian scholar has ever dared go against their findings, either.

So what are you telling me, disunion? :lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 12:07
Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

Union

Re: Lets be honest - ትግራይ ብዙ ቅዱሳንን አበርክታለች:: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት

Post by Union » 12 Jul 2023, 19:59

Oh, you want to do insulting now?

You anbeta qorchame ascari :lol: :lol: :lol:

how does that feel? Do you need more? You know me, I can rain it! :lol: I am a real FANNO!

Anyway, you need to use your own brain and stop thinking your masters are correct. :lol: i don't know what you mean by "our country?" You did not allow them into your country. They forced into your country and stayed for over one thousend and two hundred year.

In Ethiopia, some came as missionary but went back to their country and wrote books, which we have no control over back then. We do not even have enough indvituals that can speak their language. They kept lying their as's off and slaves like yourself just believe them of cource. That is why I love the Rastas and Africans, they dont believe a thing a white man tells them!

Kebre Negest is an Ethiopian book just like the book of Henok is! Period!
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 19:33
I think I must shout it at you, cos you're too dumb.

I doubt you even read the article, to begin with.

"White men....white men..." blah...blah...

THOSE WHITE MEN, DIDN'T SNEAK-IN INTO UR COUNTRY.

THEY WERE THERE OFFICIALLY TO DO THEIR RESEARCH, UNCHALLENGED & UNMOLESTED. THEY WROTE BOOKS ABOUT IT AND NONE OF YOUR- "we Ethiopians"- CAME OUT TO CHALLENGE THEIR CLAIMS!

Why not, Stupido?

Ullendroff, for instance, was saying what he said during the reign of Haile Selassie. Have you heard HS or his gov't, denounce Ullendroff?

Crickets!

But an Eritrean, you feel it's ok to attempt to belittle and harass. :lol:

Typical, junta-Kunta.


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 18:25
You are exactly saying what I would expect you to say. You can believe in whatever the whites tell you, it is non of my businesses.

But, we Ethiopians have our own history and manuscripts that were never manipulated by the west. We know we have the truth! The west has always been just trying to copy from us.

There is a reason why ETHIOPIA has been uncolonized. They could not have the ability to search for and bring out our historical information/evidences and destroy them. Thanks to our warrior ancestors for keep us untouched!

The Ethiopian truth is superior over both the Afrocentric and the Eurocentric views/facts!!!! We are way older than them too! :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 17:02
Mejnun- these white men were invited into ur country as known scholars, accorded all the honor & respect and allowed to travel around freely and do their research.

No Ethiopian scholar has ever dared go against their findings, either.

So what are you telling me, disunion? :lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 12:07
Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.



Misraq wrote:
11 Jul 2023, 23:37
Zemso,

I appreciate if you don't come to my thread writing boring stuff. Stick with your Bini cycling who is now found to be a Tigrayan.

Zmeselo
Senior Member+
Posts: 37345
Joined: 30 Jul 2010, 20:43

Re: Lets be honest - ትግራይ ብዙ ቅዱሳንን አበርክታለች:: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት

Post by Zmeselo » 13 Jul 2023, 12:02

Ok!

Natty-natty, qumal!

Continue living in ur lala- land, for all I care!
:lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 19:59
Oh, you want to do insulting now?

You anbeta qorchame ascari

how does that feel? Do you need more? You know me, I can rain it! :lol: I am a real FANNO!

Anyway, you need to use your own brain and stop thinking your masters are correct. :lol: i don't know what you mean by "our country?" You did not allow them into your country. They forced into your country and stayed for over one thousend and two hundred year.

In Ethiopia, some came as missionary but went back to their country and wrote books, which we have no control over back then. We do not even have enough indvituals that can speak their language. They kept lying their as's off and slaves like yourself just believe them of cource. That is why I love the Rastas and Africans, they dont believe a thing a white man tells them!

Kebre Negest is an Ethiopian book just like the book of Henok is! Period!
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 19:33
I think I must shout it at you, cos you're too dumb.

I doubt you even read the article, to begin with.

"White men....white men..." blah...blah...

THOSE WHITE MEN, DIDN'T SNEAK-IN INTO UR COUNTRY.

THEY WERE THERE OFFICIALLY TO DO THEIR RESEARCH, UNCHALLENGED & UNMOLESTED. THEY WROTE BOOKS ABOUT IT AND NONE OF YOUR- "we Ethiopians"- CAME OUT TO CHALLENGE THEIR CLAIMS!

Why not, Stupido?

Ullendroff, for instance, was saying what he said during the reign of Haile Selassie. Have you heard HS or his gov't, denounce Ullendroff?

Crickets!

But an Eritrean, you feel it's ok to attempt to belittle and harass. :lol:

Typical, junta-Kunta.


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 18:25
You are exactly saying what I would expect you to say. You can believe in whatever the whites tell you, it is non of my businesses.

But, we Ethiopians have our own history and manuscripts that were never manipulated by the west. We know we have the truth! The west has always been just trying to copy from us.

There is a reason why ETHIOPIA has been uncolonized. They could not have the ability to search for and bring out our historical information/evidences and destroy them. Thanks to our warrior ancestors for keep us untouched!

The Ethiopian truth is superior over both the Afrocentric and the Eurocentric views/facts!!!! We are way older than them too! :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 17:02
Mejnun- these white men were invited into ur country as known scholars, accorded all the honor & respect and allowed to travel around freely and do their research.

No Ethiopian scholar has ever dared go against their findings, either.

So what are you telling me, disunion? :lol:


union wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 12:07
Zeemso,

What you posted above is pure crap. You believing what white man tells has brought you to this mess you are in. Let me remind you just like I did to your retard akaleguzi brother aka sadacha that stop believing what the white man tells you

ንግስት ሳባ is Ethiopian! :lol:

Hint: agames did not exist in Ethiopia back then :lol:
Zmeselo wrote:
12 Jul 2023, 03:13
As a typical qumal, I know you're allergic to knowledge.

Just be proud, someone of my calibre even opened ur thread.





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Post by Naga Tuma » 13 Jul 2023, 15:56

Misraq wrote: ለሃይማኖታችንም መሰረት ናት
Misraq,

ቦከት አራረምቴ ዋቅሹም ጄቻ ጅርታ? አከስ መሌ።

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Post by Wedi » 13 Jul 2023, 20:39

"…ሐምሌ ፱ በአክሱም ጽዮን…

ይገርማል

:P :P :P
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