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Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by sarcasm » 02 Jul 2023, 18:07

Discussion between Eritrea's Ambassador to the U.N & Eritrean Professor Asmerom Legesse
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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Abere » 02 Jul 2023, 18:15

ማን ያውራ? የነበረ። ማን ያርዳ? የቀበረ። This guy is talking sh!t which is none of his busness, but in fact a monkey business of money making just like deceased Tesfaye Gebre-Ebab.

http://books.good-amharic-books.com/snowbound-1.PDF

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Horus » 02 Jul 2023, 18:32

Abere wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:15
ማን ያውራ? የነበረ። ማን ያርዳ? የቀበረ። This guy is talking sh!t which is none of his busness, but in fact a monkey business of money making just like deceased Tesfaye Gebre-Ebab.

http://books.good-amharic-books.com/snowbound-1.PDF
አበረ፣
ምስጢሩን ልንገርህ ። የገዳ ሲስተም እፍ ብሎ ነፍስ የዘራበት ተስፋዬ ገብረ አብ አይደለም ። አስመሮም ለገሰ እንደ ምታውቀው ቅልጥ ያለ ያዲሳባ አራዳ የሸገር ኤርትራዊ ነው ። ኋላ ነው እንጂ ድሮ ድሮ አማራ ይመስለን ነበር ። እሱ ማስተርስ የተማረው አንትሮፖልጂ ነው ። ለመጀምሪያ ግዜ ሃ ብሎ The African Age-Grade Tribal Systems -The Case of Geda system አጭር ከ100 ገጽ የማያልፍ ማስተርስ ቲሲስ የጻፈው እሱ ነው ። እኔ በጣም ወጣት ሆኜ አንብቤዋለሁ ። Age-grade Tribal systems በመላ አፍሪካ ያሉ ፕሪሚቲቭ ሲስተሞች ናቸው ። የሰው መብት ምን እንደ ሆነ የማይታወቅበት ኋላ ቀር ባህልን ነው ከታላቁ ጽንሰ ሃሳብ ከዴሞራሲ ወይም ራስ ገዝነት ጋር የሚያምታቱት !!! የጨነቀው እለት እንዲሉ !!

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by sarcasm » 02 Jul 2023, 18:36

Abere wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:15
ማን ያውራ? የነበረ። ማን ያርዳ? የቀበረ። This guy is talking sh!t which is none of his busness, but in fact a monkey business of money making just like deceased Tesfaye Gebre-Ebab.

http://books.good-amharic-books.com/snowbound-1.PDF
You cannot expect Erireans would save your a*s while you are disrespecting their icons. You are forgetting that you are at the mercy of Eritreans who respect Oromo heritage.

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Yimer » 02 Jul 2023, 18:47

Sarcasm and woyanes don’t have any shame competing to [deleted] the [deleted] of anyone they think has power. Embarrassing. Fortunately, Oromos know that they are snakes that shouldn’t be trusted.
sarcasm wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:36
Abere wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:15
ማን ያውራ? የነበረ። ማን ያርዳ? የቀበረ። This guy is talking sh!t which is none of his busness, but in fact a monkey business of money making just like deceased Tesfaye Gebre-Ebab.

http://books.good-amharic-books.com/snowbound-1.PDF
You cannot expect Erireans would save your a*s while you are disrespecting their icons. You are forgetting that you are at the mercy of Eritreans who respect Oromo heritage.

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by gagi » 02 Jul 2023, 19:43

Gedda is nothing for Abiy, OLF and all the Oromo hegemonic forces.

Now, Ethiopia is under the African version of the Khmer Rouge regime, and Abiy is the Pol Pot!

What Gadda democracy?!

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Abere » 02 Jul 2023, 19:52

ሆረስ፤

ይህን አንትሮፓሎጅ የሚባል የሚሲዮኖች የጉዞ ማስታወሻ የእራሱን የፍላጎት ቅራኔ ጨመሮ በአኮፋዳው ገንዘብ እየሰበሰበብት ነው በልኝ እንጅ። ተስፋዬ ገብረ-እባብ ይህን ጽሁፍ ወስዶ ምናባዊ ልቦለድ ነው ማለት ነው የደረሰው። አንተ እንዳልከው በበርካታ ጎሳዎች ዘንድ የሚጠቀሙበት ልማድ ነው።

Horus wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:32

አበረ፣
ምስጢሩን ልንገርህ ። የገዳ ሲስተም እፍ ብሎ ነፍስ የዘራበት ተስፋዬ ገብረ አብ አይደለም ። አስመሮም ለገሰ እንደ ምታውቀው ቅልጥ ያለ ያዲሳባ አራዳ የሸገር ኤርትራዊ ነው ። ኋላ ነው እንጂ ድሮ ድሮ አማራ ይመስለን ነበር ። እሱ ማስተርስ የተማረው አንትሮፖልጂ ነው ። ለመጀምሪያ ግዜ ሃ ብሎ The African Age-Grade Tribal Systems -The Case of Geda system አጭር ከ100 ገጽ የማያልፍ ማስተርስ ቲሲስ የጻፈው እሱ ነው ። እኔ በጣም ወጣት ሆኜ አንብቤዋለሁ ። Age-grade Tribal systems በመላ አፍሪካ ያሉ ፕሪሚቲቭ ሲስተሞች ናቸው ። የሰው መብት ምን እንደ ሆነ የማይታወቅበት ኋላ ቀር ባህልን ነው ከታላቁ ጽንሰ ሃሳብ ከዴሞራሲ ወይም ራስ ገዝነት ጋር የሚያምታቱት !!! የጨነቀው እለት እንዲሉ !!

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Abere » 02 Jul 2023, 19:57

First, I do not believe one hired conflict entrepreneur fictional writers Asmerom or Tsefaye Gebre-ebab represents the millions Eritrea. Second, below God Almighty, I am the boss of my own destiny and freedom. The alliance between Amhara and Eritrea is based on mutual respect and fraternity - that is the norm.
sarcasm wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:36
You cannot expect Erireans would save your a*s while you are disrespecting their icons. You are forgetting that you are at the mercy of Eritreans who respect Oromo heritage.

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by quindibu » 02 Jul 2023, 20:06

sarcasm wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:36
Abere wrote:
02 Jul 2023, 18:15
ማን ያውራ? የነበረ። ማን ያርዳ? የቀበረ። This guy is talking sh!t which is none of his busness, but in fact a monkey business of money making just like deceased Tesfaye Gebre-Ebab.

http://books.good-amharic-books.com/snowbound-1.PDF
You cannot expect Erireans would save your a*s while you are disrespecting their icons. You are forgetting that you are at the mercy of Eritreans who respect Oromo heritage.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm touched. So whom should we react to, Agame lady.......?

My three-old nephew can figure out your intention here. So don't waste your time. No one is going to insult the Amharas or Oromos based on some Amhara pretender's diatribe......Amharas and Oromos killing each other wouldn't benefit anyone, except Agames- at least that is your moronic thinking. But what you couldn't see, your Tigray without Amhara teff and Oromos milk and honey, it's the same barren land from eternity. Don't even get me started on how landlocked you're even within Ethiopia, your life line to the rest of Ethiopia is mostly through Amhara land.......But you're just an Agame who can't see beyond your nose,and as always, of course, penny wise, yet pound foolish.......Retard!

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 02 Jul 2023, 20:32

Eden ምን ነክቶአት ነው ከ ጋዳ " ዲሞክራሲ" ጋር ፉቅር የያዛት ብየ ውይይቱን ለመስማት ወሰንኩ። እንደ ሰውየው አባባል ጋዳ እንደ ዲሞክራሲ check and balance አለው አለ። ምሳሌ ሲሰጥ አባትና ልጅ ሲነታረኩ አያት ጣልቃ ይገባል ቅራኔውን ለመፉታት አለ። Well, I declare here without any hesitation I have lived under ጋዳ ሲስተም ከቤተሰቦቼ ተነጥየ የራሴን ኑሮ እስከጀመርኩ ድረስ።

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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by sarcasm » 15 Aug 2023, 08:35

Oromo Democracy: An Indigenous African Political System Paperback – March 1, 2001

by Asmarom Legesse (Author)


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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by Abere » 15 Aug 2023, 08:41

I would rather give out the $35 dollar to those famine stricken Guji and Borena Oromos in whose name blood entrepreneurs are flourishing. Gada does not pour mana from the sky, it rains blood.

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Post by Wedi » 15 Aug 2023, 08:41

Galla's claim of "Gaddaa Democracy " is so funny and embrassing.

In Gadda system, Women are totally excluded from participating in the system. How can a system who excludes half of the population can be called "Democracy"?
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Post by Abere » 15 Aug 2023, 08:56



To begin with, Gada itself is not originally an Oromo tradition. It is an imitation from the Bantu tribe in the rift valley geographic area. The Bantu tribes used to practice Gada a long time ago. They later stopped it as they found it detrimental to the wellbeing of their tribe. However, the Oromos which often called historically by different names such as Borena, Gerba, etc. some intermarried and some imitated the Bantu tradition. It is funny though to consider the Bantu Gada is similar to the Greeks Athens democracy. :mrgreen: According to this opportunist, Asmerom Legesse, the harmful tradition of genitalia cutting is voter card. The Gada democracy voting card is pꬴnis :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Gaddaa Democracy - The Basis for Modern Republic: a model of consensus building & pacification for modern Africa

Post by DefendTheTruth » 15 Aug 2023, 09:36

Abere wrote:
15 Aug 2023, 08:41
I would rather give out the $35 dollar to those famine stricken Guji and Borena Oromos in whose name blood entrepreneurs are flourishing. Gada does not pour mana from the sky, it rains blood.
I read the book before 2 decades, the copy I still have with me is published in year 2000. The one posted here could have been a revised edition from the year 2001.

Anyhow I just picked the book from my shelf and looked at the table of contents and then a glimps on few pages and on page 3 of Chapter 1 (Oromo Democracy in an African Context) and the following sentence attracted my eyes:

"in the minds of many Ethiopianists such as Huntingford, there is no doubt as to who among the peoples of Ethiopia is a 'true Ethiopia' and who is not. Huntingford's approach reveals that the perspective of the scholars has merged with the perspective of the dominant society, i.e., the Semitic speakers of Ethiopia"

This reminds me of a discussion I had on this forum in relation to the current political discourse (without the violent attempt to topple the legal governmet as its appendicitis) as a one between those for the perpetuation of a dominant culture and those seeking a truly multi-cultural state.

The scholar continued his discussion in the next paragraph and states "One of the most basic errors that Huntingford committed in his Oromo research is the exclusion of the Borana of southern Ethiopia from his ethnographic survey of the Ethiopian Oromo. That is a little like trying to understand the language, culture and history of the English speaking world without reference to England".

But you can keep following your ከብት ሆረስ, who has never spent a single hour of his life with a true scholar.

In my view Prof. Asmarom Legesse can also not rationally be put in the categories of the guy in the name of Tesfaye Gebreab, whom I also detested in his attempt to appear a scholar, without being one. Don't try to cover up!

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