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Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by justo » 21 May 2023, 03:29

The woyane made repeated frontal assault on Eritrean national identity, and movements like the ag'azians, bruh met'sai, felsi democrasi sprouted like mushroom speaking language we never heard before, belittling Eritrea, its national identity, its martyrs, disparaging our brothers and sisters in the lowlands, inviting Tigray people to come and settle in our coastal lines.

We were dumbstruck by this, surprised by the language. Then a surprising turn of events came after the warming up of relations between Abiy and Isaias. And now it was Isaias turn to surprise us with language we never heard before, not been part of the Eritrean discourse.

Now he tells us we are one people, we are fools those who think otherwise, border demarcation is not our priority, that our coastline belongs to 200 million East Africans, that any Tigray person can come and settle anywhere in Eritrea.

Eritrea is at a cross road, important decisions are being made that will determine our future. We will closely watch if foreign investment is spent building high-speed railroads that link Ethiopia and Djibouti or on internal Eritrean infrastructure

Isaias has held hostage sand that is a building material in construction and our urban centres are in decline. And the few people who dared side-step this, we have seen their buildings raised to the ground and turned into pile of slobs right in the centre of the city, near our national bank.

I don't really know his motivation for this, but we will soon find out when watching him select which infrastructures to invest upon, high-speed railway connection between Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti, or building hospitals, universities, libraries, water supply, electricity supply for our people in our urban centres and rural areas.

We will closely watch

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Axumezana » 21 May 2023, 03:44

Rail ways are capital incentive investments and there should be enough freight and movement of people to make them feasible. Any investment in Eritrea with out liberalization of the Eritrean economy and empowering private businesses is not going to be feasible . Eritrea need to integrate it's economy with Sudan, Ethiopia and the Middle East , build resorts along the Red Sea and in it's Islands. It has to also build a world class airline similar to Ethiopian Airlines. The main focus of China could be exploiting mineral resources such as potash, gold and other metals and benefit from the strategic location of Eritrea.

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by justo » 21 May 2023, 04:20

Axumezana wrote:
21 May 2023, 03:44
Rail ways are capital incentive investments and there should be enough freight and movement of people to make them feasible. Any investment in Eritrea with out liberalization of the Eritrean economy and empowering private businesses is not going to be feasible . Eritrea need to integrate it's economy with Sudan, Ethiopia and the Middle East , build resorts along the Red Sea and in it's Islands. It has to also build a world class airline similar to Ethiopian Airlines. The main focus of China could be exploiting mineral resources such as potash, gold and other metals and benefit from the strategic location of Eritrea.
STFU

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Axumezana » 21 May 2023, 04:26

Ascari -Agame justo,


You are too ignorant to challenge my ideas !

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Digital Weyane » 21 May 2023, 04:27

በውክልና ጦርነቱ ወቅት በኤርትራ ሞከላከያ ሰራዊት የተማረኩና ባሁኑ ጊዜ በኤርትራ የሳይኮሎጂ ትምህርት እየተሰጣቸው የሚገኙ 240,000 ሺ የትግራይ ወጣቶች ፣ ትምህርታቸውን አጠናቅቀው ባቡር ተሳፍረው ወደ አገራቸው ትግራይ በሰላም የሚመለሱበት ቀን እንዲያሳየን ለፈጣሪያችን ፀሎት እናደርሳለን። አምየን። :roll: :roll:

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Axumezana » 21 May 2023, 06:21

Laughing , look for your thousands of prisoners war
from the half starved Eritrean army languishing in Mekelle.

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by justo » 21 May 2023, 06:23

Axumezana wrote:
21 May 2023, 06:21
Laughing , look for your thousands of prisoners war
from the half starved Eritrean army languishing in Mekelle.
shushshshshshshssh

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 21 May 2023, 16:39

justo wrote:
21 May 2023, 03:29
The woyane made repeated frontal assault on Eritrean national identity, and movements like the ag'azians, bruh met'sai, felsi democrasi sprouted like mushroom speaking language we never heard before, belittling Eritrea, its national identity, its martyrs, disparaging our brothers and sisters in the lowlands, inviting Tigray people to come and settle in our coastal lines.

We were dumbstruck by this, surprised by the language. Then a surprising turn of events came after the warming up of relations between Abiy and Isaias. And now it was Isaias turn to surprise us with language we never heard before, not been part of the Eritrean discourse.

Now he tells us we are one people, we are fools those who think otherwise, border demarcation is not our priority, that our coastline belongs to 200 million East Africans, that any Tigray person can come and settle anywhere in Eritrea.

Eritrea is at a cross road, important decisions are being made that will determine our future. We will closely watch if foreign investment is spent building high-speed railroads that link Ethiopia and Djibouti or on internal Eritrean infrastructure

Isaias has held hostage sand that is a building material in construction and our urban centres are in decline. And the few people who dared side-step this, we have seen their buildings raised to the ground and turned into pile of slobs right in the centre of the city, near our national bank.

I don't really know his motivation for this, but we will soon find out when watching him select which infrastructures to invest upon, high-speed railway connection between Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti, or building hospitals, universities, libraries, water supply, electricity supply for our people in our urban centres and rural areas.

We will closely watch
Justo!
Leave the Agaazian movement from eggs which were hatched by the leeches. The true Agaazian movement never undermined the territorial integrity of Eritrea and it never badmouthed our martyrs and the warriors which enabled our independence. True; the opportunist, shallow village idiots snowflakes tried to ride on the Agaaziian movements popularity and hatched similar name but different in character and content and acted more agames than the agames | by the way, they are way worse than Agames.] and created similar organization but once they were exposed to who they are, all of them are finding refugees in PFDJ.... whores loves their madamo/ [deleted].

In regard to wedi medhin berad. you are later learner....Where were you when people sang, Tedemirna ena, Feqri Yeshenefal :mrgreen: in the middle of Cathedrale Asmara? In regard to investment in Eritrea, It doesn't take a genius Einstein to figure out the result of the prospect of future investment in Eritrea. Read how the late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping transformed china from a dirty poor country to one of the country which defies and confront America in every aspect, be it military, economy and politically. The Chinese politician left the economy to be run by market economy and there is set of rules to be followed if people are going to invest in China, be it local investors or oversea investors. The Eritrean dictator want total control of every aspect of life |political, economy] basically the same crappy failed formula of the late Soviet Union, that is also why, as long as there is lack of rules and regulation in Eritrea, There will never be economic prosperity in Eritrea and the alcholic dictator is going to bore you with his ajewjew philosophy of regional integration year in and year out.

Izi wedi hanka.........

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by justo » 21 May 2023, 17:19

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
21 May 2023, 16:39
Justo!
Leave the Agaazian movement from eggs which were hatched by the leeches. The true Agaazian movement never undermined the territorial integrity of Eritrea and it never badmouthed our martyrs and the warriors which enabled our independence. True; the opportunist, shallow village idiots snowflakes tried to ride on the Agaaziian movements popularity and hatched similar name but different in character and content and acted more agames than the agames | by the way, they are way worse than Agames.] and created similar organization but once they were exposed to who they are, all of them are finding refugees in PFDJ.... whores loves their madamo/ [deleted].

In regard to wedi medhin berad. you are later learner....Where were you when people sang, Tedemirna ena, Feqri Yeshenefal :mrgreen: in the middle of Cathedrale Asmara? In regard to investment in Eritrea, It doesn't take a genius Einstein to figure out the result of the prospect of future investment in Eritrea. Read how the late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping transformed china from a dirty poor country to one of the country which defies and confront America in every aspect, be it military, economy and politically. The Chinese politician left the economy to be run by market economy and there is set of rules to be followed if people are going to invest in China, be it local investors or oversea investors. The Eritrean dictator want total control of every aspect of life |political, economy] basically the same crappy failed formula of the late Soviet Union, that is also why, as long as there is lack of rules and regulation in Eritrea, There will never be economic prosperity in Eritrea and the alcholic dictator is going to bore you with his ajewjew philosophy of regional integration year in and year out.

Izi wedi hanka.........
I disagree, Deki.

Ag'azian participated in the fragmentation attempt, led the campaign against "Eritrean" identity in favour of "tigrigna" identity, claiming Tigray people to be owners of coastal area, and not lowland Eritreans. Have I misread anything?

I have no illusions about Isaias, never had, but it never stopped me from continuing to support my country and never will. I'm not worried about him controlling every aspect of Eritrean life, Eritreans are independent minded people, not hero-worshipers. If he has any illusions about this, it means he doesn't really know us.

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Dark Energy » 21 May 2023, 20:47

Justo,

When you leave every critical decision to one man, what did you expect ? Isayas owns Eritrea. It is his private gadget. To his credit, he saw all this before he joined the struggle back in the late sixties. He had a plan and the plan is working for him. Only an extreme psychopath can make that happen. The leadership of ELF was extremely careful not to alienate the Eritreans in the highlands, and Isayas as genius as he was, he exploited it to his advantage. He was able to stand at the demise of ELF. Just pray that he makes the right decisions. Like it or not, he owns Eritrea. He will do whatever he wants to do. They say, every country gets the leader it deserves. Eritrea will not be an exception. Worry about what is going to happen after he departs to the next medium. :lol:
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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Abe Abraham » 21 May 2023, 22:04

Deqi-Arawit wrote:
21 May 2023, 16:39
justo wrote:
21 May 2023, 03:29
The woyane made repeated frontal assault on Eritrean national identity, and movements like the ag'azians, bruh met'sai, felsi democrasi sprouted like mushroom speaking language we never heard before, belittling Eritrea, its national identity, its martyrs, disparaging our brothers and sisters in the lowlands, inviting Tigray people to come and settle in our coastal lines.

We were dumbstruck by this, surprised by the language. Then a surprising turn of events came after the warming up of relations between Abiy and Isaias. And now it was Isaias turn to surprise us with language we never heard before, not been part of the Eritrean discourse.

Now he tells us we are one people, we are fools those who think otherwise, border demarcation is not our priority, that our coastline belongs to 200 million East Africans, that any Tigray person can come and settle anywhere in Eritrea.

Eritrea is at a cross road, important decisions are being made that will determine our future. We will closely watch if foreign investment is spent building high-speed railroads that link Ethiopia and Djibouti or on internal Eritrean infrastructure

Isaias has held hostage sand that is a building material in construction and our urban centres are in decline. And the few people who dared side-step this, we have seen their buildings raised to the ground and turned into pile of slobs right in the centre of the city, near our national bank.

I don't really know his motivation for this, but we will soon find out when watching him select which infrastructures to invest upon, high-speed railway connection between Ethiopia, Eritrea and Djibouti, or building hospitals, universities, libraries, water supply, electricity supply for our people in our urban centres and rural areas.

We will closely watch
Justo!
Leave the Agaazian movement from eggs which were hatched by the leeches. The true Agaazian movement never undermined the territorial integrity of Eritrea and it never badmouthed our martyrs and the warriors which enabled our independence. True; the opportunist, shallow village idiots snowflakes tried to ride on the Agaaziian movements popularity and hatched similar name but different in character and content and acted more agames than the agames | by the way, they are way worse than Agames.] and created similar organization but once they were exposed to who they are, all of them are finding refugees in PFDJ.... whores loves their madamo/ [deleted].

In regard to wedi medhin berad. you are later learner....Where were you when people sang, Tedemirna ena, Feqri Yeshenefal :mrgreen: in the middle of Cathedrale Asmara? In regard to investment in Eritrea, It doesn't take a genius Einstein to figure out the result of the prospect of future investment in Eritrea. Read how the late Chinese leader Deng Xiaoping transformed china from a dirty poor country to one of the country which defies and confront America in every aspect, be it military, economy and politically. The Chinese politician left the economy to be run by market economy and there is set of rules to be followed if people are going to invest in China, be it local investors or oversea investors. The Eritrean dictator want total control of every aspect of life |political, economy] basically the same crappy failed formula of the late Soviet Union, that is also why, as long as there is lack of rules and regulation in Eritrea, There will never be economic prosperity in Eritrea and the alcholic dictator is going to bore you with his ajewjew philosophy of regional integration year in and year out.

Izi wedi hanka.........
Gomida,

With regard to Ag'azian the points that you raised are correct but your intelligence let you down when you used " dictator " to refer to President Issaias Afeworki Abraham. Dictator and dictatorship are alien concepts and practices to the Eritrean culture.

Don't be like the strange creatures who ashamed of saying .....add to it tator.


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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Abe Abraham » 21 May 2023, 22:41

Dark Energy wrote:
21 May 2023, 20:47
Justo,

When you leave every critical decision to one man, what did you expect ? Isayas owns Eritrea. It is his private gadget. To his credit, he saw all this before he joined the struggle back in the late sixties. He had a plan and the plan is working for him. Only an extreme psychopath can make that happen. The leadership of ELF was extremely careful not to alienate the Eritreans in the highlands, and Isayas as genius as he was, he exploited it to his advantage. He was able to stand at the demise of ELF. Just pray that he makes the right decisions. Like it or not, he owns Eritrea. He will do whatever he wants to do. They say, every country gets the leader it deserves. Eritrea will not be an exception. Worry about what is going to happen after he departs to the next medium. :lol:
.
Tigrayan muslim, mind your own business !!

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Fiyameta » 21 May 2023, 22:44


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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Dark Energy » 22 May 2023, 00:20

Ape aka Tarik,

You wrote,
mind your own business
Adgi/agame, look in the mirror. :lol: :lol:

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Digital Weyane » 22 May 2023, 01:23

ኤርትራውያን ኽሮስን ሮድን ዝኒሄኩም ዕድለኛታት ኢኹም። ንሕና ተጋሩ ብሰንኪ ሽፍታ ወያነ ናይ እርዳታ ስንዳይ ተኸልኪልና ንበልዖ ስኢንና ላበየናይ ደብሪ ኻም ንምህለል ጨኒቁና እዩ ዘሎ። ኡቶም ዕስለ አንበጣማ ቅልቅል ተዝብሉና ቆሊና ኻብድና ክንመልኦ። :roll: :roll:

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Zmeselo » 22 May 2023, 02:23

Dear justo, you answered the question to your legitimate doubts/suspicions/concerns all by yourself when stating...
Eritreans are independent minded people, not hero-worshipers. If he has any illusions about this, it means he doesn't really know us.
I personally rely on that fact as well when declaring my support for the gov't, especially when incessantly & unjustifiably attacked from foreign forces/powers.

I neither do know PIA personally, nor do I value him higher than our martyrs & disabled. The EPLF leadership themselves (who obviously contributed more to the country than I did AND know the man intimately) elected him to be the Sec. General, which later led to the presidency after Independence. So the responsibility of removing him if it's necessary, is on them. Anyone else attempting it is either a pretender doing it for money, or an agent of foreign powers.

The other thing that helps me to respect the man, is his incorruptibility (no evidence yet he's amassing money) and he's not into cultivating a cult of personality around himself.
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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Asmara » 22 May 2023, 05:24

Justo and Zmeselo

You both have very legit points.

Justo

Your concern about the so called Agazian movement is understandable. We cannot deny, however minimal, the damages it had created on the cultural and social fabric of our people. Millions of dollars have been allocated and significant number of people have been recruited to wage a veracious and unrelenting campaign to make it happen.
Thanks to our concerted effort, especially contributions from some media outlets (Solo media, Aregay Hagos etc. obviously with their shortcomings) we have managed to twalt the campain waged byTPLF and its foot soldiers. The young generation is now more aware more than ever the seriesness of the matter.

As for some of PIA's gaffes you have mentioned, it doesn't worry me a bit. You will not find a single Eritrean who would support a decision that jeopardises the sovereignty of the country in any shape or form. I am all for economic cooperation among all the countries in the horn, but I firmy believe that Eritrea needs first to develop its economy on par with neighbouring countries. You may remember when Dr Habetegiorgis pricisely alluded to this fact back in 2018 after the reapprochment with the Abiy's government.

Zmeleso

You have made a good point when you said PIA's contribution cannot be valued more than the tens of thousands of our martyrs and disabled veterans. The aspirations of the Eritrean people for a developed and democratic nation needs to be realised from within. There are many homegrown intelligent and farsighted youngsters in Eritrea who can take up the torch.

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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Zack » 22 May 2023, 06:31

Interesting topic , how eveer i think i think as bad as s ome might portray the patriotic dictator i dont think there is any one that can replace him at the moment. And sure the Eritrean people cannot be ripe for one man one vote what if they vote for some who is bad for the country or even worse an agame , whos parents lived in eritrea for fourty years.


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Re: Eritrea at a cross road?

Post by Fiyameta » 22 May 2023, 07:28

There's a great article authored by Professor Asgede Hagos posted on Dehai.org, titled ...
(A ‘What If’ Moment in Past U.S.-Eritrea Relations)

http://dehai.org/dehai/dehai-news/460520
PDF: http://dehai.org/dehai/assets/dehai/202 ... -Dewey.pdf

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