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Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Axumezana » 15 May 2023, 21:40

- Prices are skyrocketing including cement and wheat prices where the government was trying to intervene. Though government issued regulations to prevent intruders on the cement distribution value chain, it has not been able to enforce it.

- Corruption cancer eating every side of the economy, civil service, justice and security system.

- The Preitoria Agreement has not beeen implemented effectively and timely including IDP's are not allowed to return home and TPLF currently rendered illegal by the Election Board with possible collapse of the Preitoria Agreement.

- The Amhara region governance is going out of PP control and is in unsteady state with huge potential of burst of chaos , anarchy, blood shed and uncontrollable instability

- Oromia increasingly becoming unstable including the evirons of Adama, Bisheftu and Addis Ababa. This is happening after the Army claimed OLA is on the run.

- Eritrea still interfering in the internal affairs of Ethiopia and Eritrean army is still in Western Tigray and a number of areas in Northern Tigray committing crimes including kidnappings, killings, lootings and supporting illegally armed Amhara shiftas.

- The diaspora under the leadership of extermist Amharas allied and controlled by Isaias aggressively campaigning against the Abiy government.


The way forward :

- Enhance security through out the country
- Declare emergency in Amhara state and manage it under a hybrid of military and PP command
- Accelerate the peace negotiation with OLA and stop the advancement of OLA toward the center of Ethiopia
- Implement Pretoria Agreement in full including urgent return of displaced people to their home. The TPLF and PP have to help to each other to enhance stability and security specially in Tigray and in it's neighbourhood

- Minimize enimies, create regional alliances, and build confidence with existing partners including TPLF and TDF

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Horus » 15 May 2023, 21:47

Axumezana wrote:
15 May 2023, 21:40
- Prices are skyrocketing including cement and wheat prices where the government was trying to intervene. Though government issued regulations to prevent intruders on the cement distribution value chain, it has not been able to enforce it.

- Corruption cancer eating every side of the economy, civil service, justice and security system.

- The Preitoria Agreement has not beeen implemented effectively and timely including IDP's are not allowed to return home and TPLF currently rendered illegal by the Election Board with possible collapse of the Preitoria Agreement.

- The Amhara region governance is going out of PP control and is in unsteady state with huge potential of , burst of chious , anarchy, blood shed and uncontrollable instability

- Oromia increasingly becoming unstable including the evironos of Adama, Bisheftu and Addis Ababa. This is happening after the Army claimed OLA is on the run.

- Eritrea still interfering in the internal affairs of Ethiopia and Eritrean army is still in Western Tigray and a number of areas in Northern Tigray committing crimes including kidnappings, killings, lootings and supporting illegally armed Amhara shiftas.

- The diaspora under the leadership of extermist Amharas allied and controlled by Isaias aggressively campaigning against the Abiy government.


The way forward :

- Enhance security through out the country
- Declare emergency in Amhara state and manage it under a hybrid of military and PP command
- Accelerate the peace negotiation with OLA and stop the advancement of OLA toward the center of Ethiopia
- Implement Pretoria Agreement in full including urgent return of displaced people to their home. The TPLF and PP have to help to each other to enhance stability and security specially in Tigray and in it's neighbourhood

- Minimize enimies, create regional alliances, and build confidence with existing partners including TPLF and TDF

THIS IS CALLED REVOLUTION! ይህ ሰው ጂል ነው እንዴ! THE WAY FORWARD IS REGIME CHANGE OR MASSIVE REGIME REFORM, dude!

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Axumezana » 15 May 2023, 22:01

ፈላስፋው፥ ሆረስ፤ ኢትዮጵያ፥ ከባድ፥ ማዕበል፥ ውስጥ፥ እየተናጠች፥ ያለመሪና፥ እርስ፥በእርሳቸው፥ በማይደማመጡና፥ በማይስማሙ፥ ታጣቂዎች፥ የተሞላች፥ መርከብ፥ ትመስላለች፥ ፍፃሜውም፥ መስጠም፥ ነው። አንተ፥ Revolution ከምትለው፥ የተለዬ፥ ነው። አብዮት፥ መሪና፥ አንድ፥ ወጥ፥ ግብ፥ አለው፥ የሀይል፥ ሚዛንን፥ የሚቆጣጠር፥ የለውጥ፥ ሀይል፥ አለው፥ በዋናነቱ፥የሚናወጠው፥ ተቃውሞ፥ የተነሳበት፥ ሃይል፥ ሲሆን፥ ለውጡን፥ በማምጣት፥ ሂደት፥ ሊደርስ፥ የሚችለው፥ ቀጥታዊና፥ ተጓዳኝ፥ ጉዳት፥ ተገማች፥ ሊሆን፥ ይችላል።


- If you assume regime change how and who will replace PP?
- You may have to give detailed information on your proposal of " Massive Regime Reform" I understand it to be " Radical & Holistic Change by PP"

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by TesfaNews » 16 May 2023, 03:07

Abbiy is more focused on Gojjam than his own core in Bishoftu\DebreZayt they are also stationed in Metehara, Ambo, Gebre Guracha, Mugar slowly leaving Welega into the core of ethiopia. Abiy may lose his core in Oromia to shiftas if he does not leave Amhara alone. Forces of instability will bring Oromia to more lawlessness and abiy will be forced to leave amhara or else the mindless welegan rastas will continue to attack Endf until another war breaks out




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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 16 May 2023, 12:46

The short answer is that everybody is consumed just about him/herself or own interest. No regard for what so ever of the common goal. There are OPDO officials cutting on both sides.

I heard once that there was a certain individual as an administrator of a zone in the Oromia region and the son of the same was said to be member of the terrorist Shane, this is a real story, not what I am making up. There are many inept cadres in the organisation, whose primary goal is how to exploit the resources of the nation in the name of political activism. They were recruited into the organisation by TPLF for the sole reason of give and take.

Amhara extremists are also after nothing else but on how to snatch power, illegally, and install an illegal government, where they can steal at will. The crocodile tear they shed for the "victimized Amhara" in public is a good bargaining chip for them.

In the reported attack on the security post in Bushoftu there must be a hand of the OPDO operatives themselves, who are on one foot in the ruling party and with the other with those trying to topple the government by means of force. They want to make an influence and try to avoid accountability in the chaos that would ensue.

In fact we hear repeatedly the call for an alliance between the two extremists of the two major ethnic groups of the nation, the Amhara extremists and the OLF shane operatives. You can think about what they wanted to achieve through that?

On the surface they tell us about their discontent about the government not fighting well against the other, and then they turn around and tell you they wanted to cooperate with each other.

If we the broader public not get attentive in the pile of propganda material the country could easily slide into a situation like the neighbouring countries of Sudan and Somalia.

There are people who care about the country, though, on the positive side, which is unplifting. One of them is the young ABN guy, Ato Gashaw Mersha (?), I forgot his name but I shared one of his interview with a certain youtube channel.

Those are watching too!

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Tiago » 16 May 2023, 13:40

In fact we hear repeatedly the call for an alliance between the two extremists of the two major ethnic groups of the nation, the Amhara extremists and the OLF shane operatives. You can think about what they wanted to achieve through that?




there is no alliance what so ever.you just made it up.


ቀጣፊ ጋላ


Amhara extremists :lol: ምነው ነፍጠኛ አማራን ረሳኸው :lol: and then you have 'OLF shane operatives' :lol:

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 16 May 2023, 16:29

Tiago wrote:
16 May 2023, 13:40
In fact we hear repeatedly the call for an alliance between the two extremists of the two major ethnic groups of the nation, the Amhara extremists and the OLF shane operatives. You can think about what they wanted to achieve through that?




there is no alliance what so ever.you just made it up.


ቀጣፊ ጋላ


Amhara extremists :lol: ምነው ነፍጠኛ አማራን ረሳኸው :lol: and then you have 'OLF shane operatives' :lol:
I think to have read somewhere in here that your mob's "commander" is eden, isn't it? Don't you get your instruction from her?

She was the one who first said in here the coalation is "Game Changer", didn't you get an instruction on that part?

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by sun » 16 May 2023, 19:06

Axumezana wrote:
15 May 2023, 21:40
- Prices are skyrocketing including cement and wheat prices where the government was trying to intervene. Though government issued regulations to prevent intruders on the cement distribution value chain, it has not been able to enforce it.

- Corruption cancer eating every side of the economy, civil service, justice and security system.

- The Preitoria Agreement has not beeen implemented effectively and timely including IDP's are not allowed to return home and TPLF currently rendered illegal by the Election Board with possible collapse of the Preitoria Agreement.

- The Amhara region governance is going out of PP control and is in unsteady state with huge potential of burst of chaos , anarchy, blood shed and uncontrollable instability

- Oromia increasingly becoming unstable including the evirons of Adama, Bisheftu and Addis Ababa. This is happening after the Army claimed OLA is on the run.

- Eritrea still interfering in the internal affairs of Ethiopia and Eritrean army is still in Western Tigray and a number of areas in Northern Tigray committing crimes including kidnappings, killings, lootings and supporting illegally armed Amhara shiftas.

- The diaspora under the leadership of extermist Amharas allied and controlled by Isaias aggressively campaigning against the Abiy government.


The way forward :

- Enhance security through out the country
- Declare emergency in Amhara state and manage it under a hybrid of military and PP command
- Accelerate the peace negotiation with OLA and stop the advancement of OLA toward the center of Ethiopia
- Implement Pretoria Agreement in full including urgent return of displaced people to their home. The TPLF and PP have to help to each other to enhance stability and security specially in Tigray and in it's neighbourhood

- Minimize enimies, create regional alliances, and build confidence with existing partners including TPLF and TDF




ኦቦ አክሱምእዘና
ጋዜጠኛ አቶ ስታሊን እንደገና ሸፈተ እንዴ በቅርቡ በሜዲያ ብቅ ብሎ ፥ያዳ፥ያዳ፥ ሙዱ፥ሙዱ፥እያለ የሚዘባርቀዉ የሰላም ስምምነቱን መደገፍ ሲገባዉ።








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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Horus » 16 May 2023, 21:33

አይ አቶ አክሱማኢዛና፣ (በነገራችን ላይ ኢዛና የትግርኛ ቃል አይደለም!)

ሽንፈት ፍርሃትን ስልጣን ዉሸትን ያስተምራል ይላሉ አበው ፤ ይህን ሰሞን በገነነው ቀውስ (ኬኦስ) እጅግ ተደናግጠሃል ። ይህም ማለት የፓርቲክል ፊዚሲስቱ የቨርነር አይዘንብር "እርግጠኛ ያለመሆን" እርግጠኝነት አልተማርክም ማለት ነው። አንተ በራስህ የፐርሰፕሽን ሳጥን ውስጥ ከቀውስ ወደ ስርዓት፣ ተመልሰህ ከሴራ ወደ ሽብር ትመላለሳለህ እንጂ ውጭ ያለው ሪያሊቲ ለሁሉም አንድ ነው። ለኔም ላንተም ።

አንተ ፈራህም ተባህም፣ ተረጋጋህም ተረበሽክ ምድር ላይ ያለው ሪያሊቲ አንድ ነው፣ ኬኦስ ነው ። ይህ ኬኦስ ደሞ የኦርማ ኡማ መንግስት ይባላል። አገር እያመሰ፣ እራሱ ፈራርሶ አገር እያፈረሰ ያለው የዉሸታሙ፣ እመነተ ቢሱ፣ የክሌፕቶክራሲ ሌቦች መንግስት ።

አነተ ከውድቀትህና ካጋጠመህ ትራማ ተነስተህ አሁን ሪላቲች ኦርደር ያለ ይመስልሃል፣ ባንጎልህ ውስጥ! ያ ያንተ ፐርሰቿል ውዥንብር ነው ። በኢትዮጵያ መንግስት መለሆን ለ5 አመት አገሪቱን ንፍጥ የለቀለቀው የሌቦች ቡድን ነው በኢትዮጵያ ያለው ኬኦስ! አንተ ግን ይህን ኬኦስ ሌላ ቦታ ነው እየፈልክ ያለሀው!!

እኛ አብዮት ስንል ይህን መንግስታዊ የኦርማ ኬኦስ ማለታችን ነው። አብዮት ያንን የጎሳ ኬኦስ የሚተካው ኦርደር ሰርዓት ነው።

So, the 1st order of business for you is to fix your perception. What you have in a form of Oroma regime is a classic textbook chaos - total inability to organize and govern a complex and multi-dimensional society. In order to bring order to this chaos, you need to remove the very disorder - Ormaumma - the mother of all disorders in present day Ethiopia.

ተረኞቹ እነዲዲትና ሰን ይህን ቀውስ ይክዳሉ ምክኝቱም ስልጣን ያባልጋል፣ ዉቨትም ያደርጋል

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 16 May 2023, 23:36

Horus, since you claim to have all the answers.. what does "removing oromummaa " mean? That's such a vague statement that can be misinterpreted to mean targeting the oromo masses. What does it entail? How would you go about it?

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Axumezana » 16 May 2023, 23:44

ፈላስፋው፥ የጠየቅኩህን፥ጥያቄዎች፥ አልመለስክም፥ የእውቀት፥ ችግር፥ ወይስ፥መሳሳትክን፥ አምነህ? ጥይቄዎችን፥ ልድገምልህ፤


- If you assume regime change how and who will replace PP?
- You may have to give detailed information on your proposal of " Massive Regime Reform" I understand it to be " Radical & Holistic Change by PP"

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Horus » 17 May 2023, 01:23

አክሱምማዊ፣
ምነው የራስክን አለማወቅ ወደኔ ጠጋ! የጻፍኩትን መልሰህ አንብበው! "እርግጠኛ ያለመሆን" እርግጠኝነት አልተማርክም ማለት ነው" ያኩህኮ አስቤበት እንድታስብ ነው የጻፍኩት!!! አንተ እንደ ሜካኒካል ሮቦት አለም እርግጠኛ ካልሆነልህ ከላይ ያሳበቁብህ ፍርሃትህ እንቅልፍ አይሰጥህም ። ከላይ የደረደርካቸው ሜካኒካል ትያቄዎች በአስልቺ አልጎሪዝን ለተሞላ ሮቦት እንጂ ኢእርግጠኛ በሆነው የሰው ልጆች ሲስተም ቦታ የለውም ። Intelligent human systems live and operate iteratively under and within conditions of uncertainty. Human realities are if not always, most of the time exist in state of uncertainty . ይህን የማያውቅ የሰው መሪ ሊሆን አይችልም!!! እዛው ኢንሳ ውስጥ ሮቦት ኮድ እያደረገ መኖር አለበት፣ እሱም ሮቦት ነውና!! የሰው ልጅ በትክክለኛ ባህሪው በኢእርግጠኘት ወስጥ እንደ ዉሃ ይፈሳል!! That i s what we call an intelligent learning system . አንድ የመጨረሻ ዊዝደም ልተውልህ! The future is not predicted, it is chosen!!! መልሶቹ እዚያ አሉልህ !

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Horus » 17 May 2023, 01:32

በነገራችን ላይ የቀድሞ ወያኔና የዛሪው ኦርማ ኡማ የህይወታቸው ስንት % በስብሰባ እንደ ሚያጠፉ ተከታትለህል? ያ ሁሉ ነገን ፕሪዲክት አድርገው ሪያሊቲን ለመቆጣጠር ነው! እስከ ዛሬ የተፈጠሩ ደደቦች ሁሉ ኢሉዥን ያ ነው!! ጋሼ ሪያሊቲ ኧረገጣቸው ይፈሳል ! ካለፈው የትግሬ ጦርነት ስንት ወያኔ ስለሪያሊቲ ምንነት ተምሮ ይሆን!!!!

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Axumezana » 17 May 2023, 02:11

- ጥያቅዬ፥ ግልጽና፥ ግልጽ፥ ነው፥ የሰምና፥ የወርቅ፥ አይነት፥ የዶዶመ፥ መልስ፥ ለመስጠት፥ መሞከርህ፥መልሱን፥ ለመመለስ፥ ድፍረት፥ የለህም፥ ወይም፥ አታውቀውም፥ ማለት፥ ይመስላል።

- " The future is not predicted , it is chosen " ያልከውም፥ቁንፅል፥ አባባልና፥ ጠለቅ፥ ተብሎ፥ ቢፈተሽ፥ ባዶ፥አባባል፥ ነው፥ You choose what to be in the future based on the prediction of the future. If you fail to plan you are planning to fail & forecast ( prediction ) of the future is the core component of planning.
The concept of " strategic scenario planning" produces various predictions of the future based on different assumptions of the future and you choose/set your goals and which path to follow ( strategy) in an iterative manner. During the implementation, you stirr toward your chosen destiny( goals) in agile manner in consideration to the continuous dynamic changes both in the internal and external environment.

የስብስባዎች፥ ዋና፥ አላማ፥ ሃሳብን፥ ለማዳበርና፥ መግባባትን፥ ፈጥሮ፥ ወደ፥ተግባር፥ ፈጥኖ፥ለመግባት፥ ሲሆን፥ የተንዛዛ፥ ስብሰባ፥ ግን፥ ውሃ፥ ቢወቅጡት፥ እምቦጭ፥ ጉንጭ፥ አልፋና፥ ፍሬ፥ አልባ፥ ነው።

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 17 May 2023, 16:04

Axumezana wrote:
17 May 2023, 02:11
- ጥያቅዬ፥ ግልጽና፥ ግልጽ፥ ነው፥ የሰምና፥ የወርቅ፥ አይነት፥ የዶዶመ፥ መልስ፥ ለመስጠት፥ መሞከርህ፥መልሱን፥ ለመመለስ፥ ድፍረት፥ የለህም፥ ወይም፥ አታውቀውም፥ ማለት፥ ይመስላል።

- " The future is not predicted , it is chosen " ያልከውም፥ቁንፅል፥ አባባልና፥ ጠለቅ፥ ተብሎ፥ ቢፈተሽ፥ ባዶ፥አባባል፥ ነው፥ You choose what to be in the future based on the prediction of the future. If you fail to plan you are planning to fail & forecast ( prediction ) of the future is the core component of planning.
The concept of " strategic scenario planning" produces various predictions of the future based on different assumptions of the future and you choose/set your goals and which path to follow ( strategy) in an iterative manner. During the implementation, you stirr toward your chosen destiny( goals) in agile manner in consideration to the continuous dynamic changes both in the internal and external environment.

የስብስባዎች፥ ዋና፥ አላማ፥ ሃሳብን፥ ለማዳበርና፥ መግባባትን፥ ፈጥሮ፥ ወደ፥ተግባር፥ ፈጥኖ፥ለመግባት፥ ሲሆን፥ የተንዛዛ፥ ስብሰባ፥ ግን፥ ውሃ፥ ቢወቅጡት፥ እምቦጭ፥ ጉንጭ፥ አልፋና፥ ፍሬ፥ አልባ፥ ነው።
ይህን ገለባ የሆነ ነገር ይገበዋል ብለህ ነዉ እንዴ የምትደክመዉ?

አንድ አባባል አለ፣ "ዉሎህን ንገረኝና ማንነትህን እነግረሃለሁ"፣ አሉ ይባላል።

ዬት እንደምዉል እስካሁን ካለጣረህ ፖስት የሚያደርጋቸዉን ቪዲዮዎች ብቻ ተከታታል።

The guy is very shallow, permanently seeking attention on everything under the sky, this trait is also another indicator of who he is.

Using these two traits alone can convincingly prove the emptyness of the character you are trying to teach something.

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Abere » 17 May 2023, 16:14

Abiy Ahmed, in fact, lost control of the country. The country is off track. Now, Amhara is partially free from the OLF maneuvering. Amhara already flashed their middle finger to him. The so called "Oromia" is simply a collection of disconnected provinces that do not have common stake, investors are fleeing away, people are avoiding it, and Addis Ababa is disoriented city, Southern Region has totally become dysfunctional, there is federal revenue, there is no salary being paid. Abiy Ahmed regime is dead in its age of infancy. His Oromia specials commando forces are surrendering to Amhara farmers. This is the downfall of Abiy Ahmed Orommuma regime.

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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by Axumezana » 17 May 2023, 21:12

አለቃ፥ አበረ፥ Do not expect marching to Arat Kilo is a piece of cake! We could list all negative developments but we all know that Abiy is a survivor as he has a strong support base. As a priority what we all need is peace and stability of our country whoever is at the helm.Abiy has to identify within his team who are with him and against him and purge those corrupted individuals pretending to be with him but in actual working against him. All political parties have to prepare themselves to unseat PP during the the next election instead of pulling to each other and looking for short cut to hold power. The country has to survive first , for the politicians to hold power. በተበተነ፥ አገር፥ ማንም፥ አገር፤ ማስተዳደር፤ አይችልም፥ Hence,

- Let us all support Abiy to stabilize the country
- Let us all challenge Abiy to broaden the democratic
space for the next election.
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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

Post by sun » 17 May 2023, 23:18

Abere wrote:
17 May 2023, 16:14
Abiy Ahmed, in fact, lost control of the country. The country is off track. Now, Amhara is partially free from the OLF maneuvering. Amhara already flashed their middle finger to him. The so called "Oromia" is simply a collection of disconnected provinces that do not have common stake, investors are fleeing away, people are avoiding it, and Addis Ababa is disoriented city, Southern Region has totally become dysfunctional, there is federal revenue, there is no salary being paid. Abiy Ahmed regime is dead in its age of infancy. His Oromia specials commando forces are surrendering to Amhara farmers. This is the downfall of Abiy Ahmed Orommuma regime.
Really? Keep blowing your useless wishful desperate trumpets. :lol: :lol:



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Re: Is PM Abiy in control of the country ?

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