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[Axumezana]

Ascari Agame Sadacha,

Your explanation on trying to describe the features of Oromos is in adequate , as you could find non- Oromo people in different regions of Ethiopia with features that meet your definition.
If you do not understand my perspective , the summary is below.
The issue of ethnicity categorized by the spoken language , by physical features or by the geographic location is not adequate enough to make objective & clear demarcation. It is preferable to use DNA based classifications , which may be more accurate. Based on DNA I believe all Ethiopians have similar one with some differences.

[TesfaNews]

Ascari Agame Sadacha,

Your explanation on trying to describe the features of Oromos is in adequate , as you could find non- Oromo people in different regions of Ethiopia with features that meet your definition.
If you do not understand my perspective , the summary is below.
The issue of ethnicity categorized by the spoken language , by physical features or by the geographic location is not adequate enough to make objective & clear demarcation. It is preferable to use DNA based classifications , which may be more accurate. Based on DNA I believe all Ethiopians have similar one with some differences.

Oromo

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xC2QXtwOgLg/maxresdefault.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/1VZMC7FtvoU/maxresdefault.jpg

[OPFist]

When we look at reality on ground, pro-democracy Abyssinian elites seem to prefer fourth option. Even such Abyssinian elites started to see the fact that fifth option is the already failed project. Several Oromo elites do suggest first option of free nations as the best solution. But, if Abyssinian elites do reject self-determination of nations and persist on having unconditional Ethiopian unity, then let them test the second option so they can understand what it means to be called “ an Ethiopian” in such a condition, which actually means an Oromian, in contrast to the status quo where Ethiopian means an Abyssinian. Thus, Ethiopia with Afaan Oromo as a working federal language, despite the possible competition with Amharinya, is same as de facto Oromia because Oromummaa will be main content of the union. If Abyssinian elites reject the second option, it is then expected from them to have an empathy for Oromo elites, who reject the fifth option, instead of vilifying such Oromo elites as “exclusionists”. Why should Oromo elites be considered as exclusionists for the sake of demanding this role exchange of the two languages, whereas Abyssinian elites are seen as inclusive, eventhough they are propagating the exclusive fifth option? To avoid such a language conflict, of course, it is also possible to opt for the third option in order to be more inclusive and integrative.

[OPFist]

Now, it is natural for us to ask, why did TPLF promote Amharinya at cost of Afaan Oromo in the last 27 years. The answer is clear: TPLF wants that the conflict between the two big nations will continue, so it can rule further easily. The historical conflict between Amharas and the Oromo is highly exploited by TPLF in order to hinder a possible public uprising in unison against their rule. Just because of language privilage they had, Amhara elites are still seen as oppressors by almost all oppressed nations in the empire, including the Oromo, even though Amharas, nowadays, are as oppressed and exploited as other nations by the ruling regime. TPLF could have solved this language conflict between Amharinya and Afaan Oromo by making both of them working languages of the federation or limiting both of them to their respective regions and using only English as working language of the federation.

[Sadacha Macca]

Ascari Agame Sadacha,

Your explanation on trying to describe the features of Oromos is in adequate , as you could find non- Oromo people in different regions of Ethiopia with features that meet your definition.
If you do not understand my perspective , the summary is below.
The issue of ethnicity categorized by the spoken language , by physical features or by the geographic location is not adequate enough to make objective & clear demarcation. It is preferable to use DNA based classifications , which may be more accurate. Based on DNA I believe all Ethiopians have similar one with some differences.

Agame tplf cyber troll,

I brought proof and detailed description of the typical oromo features.. you brought NOTHING other than vague statements, with no details as to what those features entailed, and pictures of oromos that you deem to be representative of our "pure cushitic " looks, despite knowing nothing about us. You got caught lying and speaking without knowledge on us oromos.
It's clear that I'm right on this one and you're Clearly just posting substance-less nonsense.
The features that describe us aren't much different from the features of other Ethiopians, that's common sense, of course a lot of us look alike.... we're neighbors, and have been for quite a while. That should go without saying.

[TesfaNews]

Oromo

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https://cpj.org/africa/ethiopia/

[OPFist]

When we do choose certain language for a common communication between different autonomous nations, we need to consider its economical expediency and its international usage. Till now, all nations in the empire were obliged to learn Amharinya as national language, because of domination by Abyssinians, who accepted Amharinya as the only federal language and still tend to endorse. Actually, clear is why they do this preference; it is simply because of the political and economical advantage they do get. Here is one example to be taken in to consideration: Amhara elites usually try to promote unconditional Ethiopian unity just because they know what an advantage they do have as far as Amharinya is working language of the empire, i.e melting of all nations in the empire towards being Ethiopian, which is equivalent to an identity change into being Amhara. This process of assimilating people behind the mask of Ethiopiawinet is the main intention behind their manic craving for unitary Ethiopian state. Accordingly, they oppose the suggested future genuine “ethnic” federation just for it undermines their language domination and the melting process will be stopped.

[OPFist]

Then the question to be asked by other nations now is: can pro-democracy Abyssinian forces choose to settle for the alternative of using language of all nations at their respective national areas or should they be compelled to accept this right of other nations as an alternative to the conservative Abyssinian elites’ refusal of recognizing such a union based on self-determination? I know that TPLF will accept even an alternative – separation of nations to build their own independent states as soon as they sense a possible lose of power in Tulluu Daalattii palace. To compel Abyssinian forces to accept a union based on the national self-determination, we just have to demote Amharinya to be used only in Amhara region and promote Afaan Oromo to the only federal language, as I put it above. Through this role exchange between the two languages, they will see that Ethiopiawinet will not be equivalent to Amharanet (as it is now), but it will be same to Oromummaa. In such a scenario of Oromummaa being equivalent to Ethiopiawinet (de facto Oromiawinet), Oromo elites will definitely start to be pro-Ethiopiawinet as well as against ethnicity and then Abyssinian elites will surely begin to defend their identity by opting for self-determination of Abyssinian people, so that they will support ethnicity and reject Ethiopiawinet with the content of Oromummaa. In this way, Abyssinian elites can comprehend what it means to struggle for a national independence with or without a regional union.

[OPFist]

The ongoing attempt of Abyssinian elites to make both Afaan Oromo and Amharinya the working federal languages of the future union is disadvantageous for other smaller nations in the empire. Abyssinian elites opted to this alternative just to make Amharinya again the working language of all regions including Oromia, the option they don’t have now. As far as the Oromo are concerned, Afaan Oromo being federal working language is not bad, so long Amharinya will not be imposed on Oromia, but Amharinya should be the working language of only Amhara region and, of course it can be that of the federation besides Afaan Oromo. For other nations in the empire, this may mean to learn four languages, instead of the present only three. But, these nations need to learn only two languages: their own mother tongue and an international language – English. Why should their children be obliged to learn Afaan Oromo and Amharinya and be stressed with such additional useless languages, whereas Amhara children learn only Amharinya and English, being free from such stress. So, my suggestion is that all children from all nations in the future union should have this privilege given to Amhara children: learn only their respective national language and English as an international common language.

[OPFist]

If Abyssinian elites come to their sense and accept the common ground for all nations, i.e the future genuine ethnic federalism, it would have been very easy to forge an effective alliance of Abyssinian democratic forces and Oromo freedom fighters against the dictatorial TPLF regime. Just to clear the confusion produced by the hitherto articles on similar topics, the other names used for genuine ethnic federalism are: multi-national federation, new federal democratic country, de jure Ethiopia = de facto Oropia, language-based federalism, internal self-determination, national autonomy with regional union, self rule and shared rule, national self determination with multi-national democracy, unity with liberty, union of autonomous nations, United States of Nations, autonomous nations in federated country, national autonomy in an integrated region (e.g autonomous Oromia in an integrated Ethiopia)… etc. In short, the best instrument to compel Abyssinian elites so they can accept and respect this compromise solution and to make them recognize the right of nations to self-determination, is to demote Amharinya to local language and promote Afaan Oromo to federal language.

[OPFist]

Last but not least, such democtratized Ethiopia (de facto Oropia) being a known objective of federalist Oromo nationals like Dr Abiy, I tend to accept it only as a transitional solution for political arrangement after getting rid of the present Abyssinian empire. This Ethiopia is the transition to either de jure, not only de facto Oropia, in case all future free nations of the empire will agree and accept the name change from Ethiopia to Oropia, or else the birth of an independent Oromia is inevitable. I think an integrative Oropia, where freedom of citizens and nations will be respected, where democracy will be rule of game, where Afaan Oromo will be primary working language of the union and where Odaa, as symbol of Gadaa democracy will be central part of the future federation’s flag, can be very good alternative solution to the noble cause of an independent Oromia. Is Dr. Abiy promoting this? May Waaqa help us all accept the future Ethiopia (de facto Oropia) as a transitional solution towards either an independent republic of Oromia or an integrative de jure Oropia.