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Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by TGAA » 02 May 2023, 23:26

"Our position is not ambivalent. We strongly believe that the policy of institutionalized ethnicity is toxic & obsolete. In our view, eradication of this malaise will serve the best interests of Ethiopia. Furthermore, Eritrea & the whole region will benefit from this."

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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by eden » 02 May 2023, 23:31

Reality check:

Isayas/ Yemane supported ethnic based groups like TPLF, OLF, ONLF, GPLF, TPDM, SLF. etc etc. All these are ethnic based organizations Isayas supported. He never supported Esepa, Knijit, Hibret or Medrek. . These are organizations that attempted to transcend ethnicity. The only reasonable conclusion here is he says one thing but does another.

Don’t judge by what he says but what he does and what he does is that he uses one Ethiopian group against another:

worked with TPLF against DERG
worked with OLF, ONLF against TPLF
worked with OPDO against TPLF
working with you - ANDM/ FANO - against OPDO
(will work with TPDM against ANDM/ FANO)

This is the record of Isayas. Follow what he does, not what he says.

It's funny it's the Eritrean that has to spell this out to you Ethiopians

ask yourself if he is beyond ethnicity, why is Eritrea dominated by elites from one ethnic group in every sector?

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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by TGAA » 03 May 2023, 00:16

Let me agree just for the sake of argument Issyas did all that thinking that is the best policy for Eritrea; isn't it the responsibility of the leaders of 120 million people to end the vicious cycle of ethnic dictatorship to benefit their own ethnic enclave? end up vulnerable as you pointed out. Isn't that Weyanes hadn't tried to spread ethnic division among Eritreans, they did but failed because Issayas didn't open up a door for weyens to sneak in. He is standing while weyanes and now Oromumas digging their own graves thinking doing the same thing will bring up a different result. Look weyannes and Oromumas still think they will succeed after 1000000 people lost their life one defending another to become the new ethno monarch.

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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by eden » 03 May 2023, 00:39

First of all, Isayas (and clique) doesn’t factor in what’s in it for Eritrea people in what he does. Eritrea is divided ethnically and regionalism is eating at its root. You know nothing about Eritrea so I won’t hold it against you.

Ethiopians are divided in their view. You and your likes think multi national arrangement is source of all evils, others think the opposite. You, as an Ethiopian, have the responsibility to work it out. You can’t just give the responsibility to others that oppose your idea as if your idea is derived from the bible.

Don’t be lazy and beg Isayas to promote your (perceived) interest through the blood of Eritrea youth. Try doing the hard work of talking to the Ethiopians that propose opposing idea to that of yours. Isayas is not your partner. He doesn’t even care for his own people.

Stop kissing Yemane [deleted] - His party and government has tortured, jailed and killed countless citizens of his own.
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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by Abe Abraham » 03 May 2023, 00:51

TGAA wrote:
02 May 2023, 23:26
"Our position is not ambivalent. We strongly believe that the policy of institutionalized ethnicity is toxic & obsolete. In our view, eradication of this malaise will serve the best interests of Ethiopia. Furthermore, Eritrea & the whole region will benefit from this."
Indeed, it is toxic and obsolete.

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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by TGAA » 03 May 2023, 01:25

eden wrote:
03 May 2023, 00:39
First of all, Isayas (and clique) doesn’t factor in what’s in it for Eritrea people in what he does. Eritrea is divided ethnically and regionalism is eating at its root. You know nothing about Eritrea so I won’t hold it against you.

Ethiopians are divided in their view. You and your likes think multi national arrangement is source of all evils, others think the opposite. You, as an Ethiopian, have the responsibility to work it out. You can’t just give the responsibility to others that oppose your idea as if your idea is derived from the bible.

Don’t be lazy and beg Isayas to promote your (perceived) interest through the blood of Eritrea youth. Try doing the hard work of talking to the Ethiopians that propose opposing idea to that of yours. Isayas is not your partner. He doesn’t even care for his own people.

Stop kissing Yemane [deleted] - His party and government has tortured, jailed and killed countless citizens of his own.
You must have misread what I wrote. What I said was that Issyas was involved in our issue, not because of his strength but our weakness.
Don't make a strawman argument by saying "You and your likes think the multi-national arrangement is the source of all evils" If citizens of a county don't have a right to prosper outside of their ethnic enclave, or are considered an outsider to be uprooted on the short notice or killed without accountability is that your definition of"Multi-national arrangement". Either you have no clue about Ethiopian ethnicized gulags or you are one of the see no evil hear no evil supporters of the weyane apartheid system. I can't agree more with Yemane's statement "policy of institutionalized ethnicity is toxic & obsolete" Compared to our ethnicized hell, Eritrea is in a better position to mend its ways and progress faster. That is my opinion.

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Re: Eritea's Yemane G/Meskel clear eyed view of Ethnic Gulag

Post by Zmeselo » 03 May 2023, 02:45

Ungrateful lizard, we supported you:

1. Because you convinced us that you're suffering

2. You came out on top over EPRP (for a solid Ethiopia), that EPLF actually preferred over you

3. Eritrea was absolutely against your ethnic Federalism scheme and wedi Afom told the midget cockroach Meles then, about the stupidity of it all.



eden wrote:
02 May 2023, 23:31
Reality check:

Isayas/ Yemane supported ethnic based groups like TPLF, OLF, ONLF, GPLF, TPDM, SLF. etc etc. All these are ethnic based organizations Isayas supported. He never supported Esepa, Knijit, Hibret or Medrek. . These are organizations that attempted to transcend ethnicity. The only reasonable conclusion here is he says one thing but does another.

Don’t judge by what he says but what he does and what he does is that he uses one Ethiopian group against another:

worked with TPLF against DERG
worked with OLF, ONLF against TPLF
worked with OPDO against TPLF
working with you - ANDM/ FANO - against OPDO
(will work with TPDM against ANDM/ FANO)

This is the record of Isayas. Follow what he does, not what he says.

It's funny it's the Eritrean that has to spell this out to you Ethiopians

ask yourself if he is beyond ethnicity, why is Eritrea dominated by elites from one ethnic group in every sector?

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