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[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi, I am suspecting that you may be the lizard himself . BTW, all that shyyyy-t is a copied document. The Tigrigna speaking people that you refer to, belong to two different countries. That is where you are missing the boat. Actually, you are committing a crime agaist the state of Eritrea . Majority rule minority right is an old concept of the 20th century, political correctness. Equal rights to every citizen is the thinking today. Groups can change according to economic, political or social interest. It does not have to be region or religion belonging. In other words, money talks. But, exporting politics to the south based on language or ethnicity is a crime against the State. The Agame belongs to Ethiopia, the people of Kebessa belong to Eritrea. Case closed.

Mayor of Seraye!
Aye Having a discussion with you is like እንጣጢዕ እዘርእ ኣለኹ. Some times, I even wonder if you read before you spew your [deleted]. You summarized to all the post I wrote to one single conclusion which is Agames this and Agames that? Which only solidify and cements my understanding that the snowflakes are not different than wedi Medhin Berad anuxxus lickers.

My reply was the fault of the method the sodomite dictator and the snowflakes is using in regard to nation building and your reply was about Agames........IQ matters.

[Zack]

So interesring so agazi movement isn’t about displacing the other ethnic groups but it’s about political leadership should be reserved for the majority of Tigrinya people of Eritrea. To be honest if wel look at Eritrea it has an Tigrinya character I read an article about affar guy who was from Eritrea and was talking about this that Eritrea is just in all but name a Tigrinya country and is it fair maybe not is it right probably every place u go it’s some on calls the shot . But I do agree Eritrea or kebessa history didn’t begin 1890 there was a history before that why do some shabian folks feel uncomfortable talking about the past . It’s much your history as any one else the kebessa also fought against imam Ahmed al ghazi it’s not solely an Abyssinian Adal war but it was as much an midre Bahri war. We all have to put something into perspective really if agames can become Eritrean after fourty years can affar from Ethiopia and beja from Sudan also become Eritreans or is that a special rule only for agames


Dr Zackovich

[Dark Energy]

Zacky,

Stop washing Deqi's behind. Eritrea is not Tigrigna county. The Tigrigna Ethnic group is one of the nine groups in Eritrea.
Here is Eritrean history.

[Zack]

You and I know that is not true Eritrea is over 65 percent tigrigna speakers. It’s leadership is Tigrinya ministers army chiefs president all aspect of Eritrea society is under Tigrinya speaker. The working language is Tigrinya. Eritrea has been under Shabia rule which wasa Tigrinya movement for over half a century. The other ethnic groups are there but they are not as significant visibile in Eritrea with some exception to the Tigre. The jeberti saho kunama nara and afar and raishada are no where to be seen


Dr Zackovich

[Dark Energy]

Zack,

You just insulted us. Yes, EPLF is dominated by Tigrigna speakers. To some degree, ELF was dominated by Tigre speakers at one point. But, in the long run, Eritrea will become much more multi cultural society it has always been. Well thought out elections can make that happen. Now, no election takes place in the country. The same faces have been in power for the last 30 years. That used to be African sickness. Now, it belongs to Eritrea. The Kenyans saw it first hand in their capital city.

[Zack]

We hope for peace and stability and prosperity for our Eritrean neighbours and brother all will be well inshalla


Dr Zackovich

[Deqi-Arawit]

Mayor of Seraye! Here are the movement debunking your "Muslyunet"

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[Dark Energy]

Deqi,

Theses guys sound very terrible comedians. Imagine either the Amharas or the Oromos telling the rest of the Ethiopians this country is Amhara or Oromo country. How about white Americans telling the rest of us that America is a white country hence act and live like it ! Fortunately, America is a multi cultural country framed by all Americans who live in it. These guys sound like they had escaped from the Sahara jungle of some 2000 years ago when the local climate was a lot cooler than it is today. Most of the time, you sound intelligent. Perhaps you have some kind of gender crossing period that flashes common sense out of your head. Theses guys are plane idiots.
BTW, why do you call me mayor of Seraye. First of all, Seraye is not an urban district. It is a region that is part of a larger region. Second, I don’t remember running for some kind of election . Third, Seraye is a historical region of Eritrea. There is no longer a region named Seraye in Eritrea now. I hope, you understand now. I am proud of the history of Eritrea. I am also always ready to accept changes for the better,

[Zack]

the Ethopians already call Ethiopia is a country with a habesha cculture and character so its actually more an amhara tigray gurage country and northern galla country shewan gallas but its a habesha culture that is being used as the main character when u say ethipian u mean habesha or amhara u see the cultural clothing of amhara never one of the dinka or the sidamo afar or somali. so every country has one main charackter or culture that dominates in Eritrea its Tigrinya in Ethiopia its amhara or habesha . there are some countries that have two main cultures or characters such as nigeria the youruba and the hausa fulani people both side by side. but the usa is a white country how many white presidents have there been in the past 300 years.maybe 99 percent of them were white Americans mostly german and english descent. Its multi cultural on paper but when it comes to power its one culture.

Dr Zackovich

[Dark Energy]

Zack,

I don’t want to delve into Ethiopian politics. But I can share my view from global perspective. You see, some three hundred years ago, the British, Spain and France had a blue print of their own nation building strategies. Those strategies worked for them. Now, they are not just out of favor, but from Human Right perspective, they were immoral and illegal. America has evolved over time hence individual and group rights came out of that. If you mirror that to Ethiopian politics, it is very similar. You had the cruel Zemene Mesafint followed by the Royal Family, British like administrations. The manifesto of the Bolshevik movement brought the likes of Mengisto to power. Meles and co, left to the field and formed anti Mengistu led government. To make the story short, they booted him out of power. The zemene mesafint era that saw the bitter rivalry of the Amhara vs. Tigrayan gave to Ethnic Federalism. Though on the surface Ethnic federalism loos very fair, it is also divisive. But, it gave a lesson to some Amhara groups who feel like they own Ethiopia. Now they know, but they also realize that Ethiopia can not continue on the ethnic federalism pedestal that destroyed a historic European country at the end of the 20th century. Hence the quagmire. The Oromos are the giant in the midis of this. Tigrayans are minority, hence they need to build relations with the rest of the Ethiopian people. This Axumite empire stuff is of the antiquity late night story. BTW, Ethiopia is not Amhara anymore. Have respect for the rest of the Ethiopian people including your very own, the Tigrayans. Eritrea is a small multi cultural country. That system is very simple to implement. We just have these minority individuals that have a hard time of divorcing from amicable Ethiopia.

[Zack]

i agree for the most part with u its true what u said first colonialism brought allot of disrress and problems for the occupied peoples
How ever allot of good things came out of it eventually..
How ever u are right on ethiopia and the stages it went through but ur wrong that ethnic federalism . The different peoples of ethiopia are different peoples and were never a real country prior the late 1800s there was no Ethiopia. I as a Somali never accepted this Ethiopia it was never ours and will fight it till eternity and the amharas are eternal enemies. As for the tigrayans yes they are a minority they can do two things jump ship create their own country or join their kebessa brothers we shall see but ethiopia needs to atl east diviided int 5 countries



Dr Zackovich

[kerenite]

Deqi,

Theses guys sound very terrible comedians. Imagine either the Amharas or the Oromos telling the rest of the Ethiopians this country is Amhara or Oromo country. How about white Americans telling the rest of us that America is a white country hence act and live like it ! Fortunately, America is a multi cultural country framed by all Americans who live in it. These guys sound like they had escaped from the Sahara jungle of some 2000 years ago when the local climate was a lot cooler than it is today. Most of the time, you sound intelligent. Perhaps you have some kind of gender crossing period that flashes common sense out of your head. Theses guys are plane idiots.
BTW, why do you call me mayor of Seraye. First of all, Seraye is not an urban district. It is a region that is part of a larger region. Second, I don’t remember running for some kind of election . Third, Seraye is a historical region of Eritrea. There is no longer a region named Seraye in Eritrea now. I hope, you understand now. I am proud of the history of Eritrea. I am also always ready to accept changes for the better,

Bro Dark Energy,

Thanks for the laugh when you responded to the agazian dude deQi by saying that you have never run for mayorship election and therefore you cannot be branded as mayor of seraye. Besides seraye is a district or a region and not a city to have a mayor. Lol

Sadly, this deQi is losing it, he is turning into a rabid dog attacking any be it left or right. He even attacks those who stand by him here in this forum.

Having said that, the dude does not lack intelligence but unfortunately he misapplies it here. He idiotically believes in tigray-tigrigni crap. He believes that eritrea same as tigray is a tigrigna and a christian state and as such he does not recognize the other ethnic groups of eritrea and tigray. He considers them as intruders and that they should never to be trusted.

Case in point, he mentioned several times here that he feels HIS BACK IS SAFE IF HE IS FOLLOWED BY A TIGRIYAN AND NOT BY A LOWLANDER FROM ERITREA.

I rest my case.

Now aite deQi, go ahead and call me mohamed hagos whatever your motive is when you apply it. BTW, for your info, Mohamed hagos is a name applied in highland eritrea and not in lowland Eritrea. The word "HAGOS" is unknown in lowland Eritrea or among my folks.

[Dark Energy]

Thanks guys.
Brother Kerenite,
I am here about to debunk the would be debunker, Deqi Arawit’s theory of the would be Agazian story. You see Eritrea earned its independence by the blood of its children. Recognition by the UN is another question. The colonial boundary is what allowed Eritrea to be recognized by the UN as independent and sovereign nation. Unless Deqi happens to be a hot blooded under cover Ethiopian, the Agazian story is perhaps concocted to reverse Eritrean status of an independent nation. I don’t mean Deqi, Eritrean grown Ethios are the main reason, the Eritrean people have been suffering for the last thirty years.

[Zack]

Dark energy u do know that deqi is not an Ethiopian but he really believes the agames are his cousins he doesn’t believe in ur theory of belew kelew he doesn’t believe kebessa are agames mixed with beja . It doesn’t make the Tigray are any different then kebessa just because agames have agew or some amharas or gallla blood. Besides Eritrea didn’t become a recognised state because it had colonial borders if colonial bounderies would would result to recognition Somaliland would have gained recognition after 32 years .

Also South Sudan who didn’t have any colonial bounderies was recognised and Somaliland was not . Do u know why because the parent country Sudan allowed a referendum to be conducted in South Sudan. Also Ethiopia allowed Eritrea to have a UN supervised referendum this resulted in the recognition of Eritrea. Not because of colonial bounderies other wise South Sudan would have not gained recognition. Since they didn’t have any colonial bounderies.

[Dark Energy]

Zack,

You sound very frustrated. African borders are delineated according to Colonial physical occupations .The treaty was signed by Haile Sellasie, Nikrumah of Ghana and many others. The United Nations adopted it as a protocol. Eritrean borders are delineated accordingly. Ethiopian recognition was vital for Eritrea as well as Ethiopia. Otherwise, Ethiopia would have disintegrated had it refused. EPLF was very powerful at that time. The weyanes would not have achieved all by themselves. They were carried to Addis on Eritrean shoulders. Eritrean map is not going to change to accommodate Ethiopian hating Tigrayans on the expense of the Eritrean people. The border between Ethiopia and Eritrea is demarcated for good. I really don’t know much about South Sudan. But, I can tell you that Somali land will be recognized in the future. You can not keep a group of people as prisoners against their wishes. As far as Tigrayans are concerned, they are the founding fathers of Ethiopia as the Amharas, and many others are. Stick to you Ethiopianess. You are only fooling yourselve. Everyone can see through you. You hate Ethiopia. There are many many Tigrayans who love Ethiopia. In Eritrea, we have nine nationalities. Tigrigna is just one. It stops right there.

[Zack]

Yeah u right I am not a lover of Ethiopia and u to would still also hate Ethiopia had u not being indepedent if u were still part of Ethiopia you to would hate Ethiopia. So yes I do hate Ethiopia for it claims my land unlawfully really that is the Somali region occupied by Ethiopia.

As for the tigrayans surely they are or were the founders of axum and the old history of Abyssinia and there was to Hannes but they them selves are not happy with their predicament because of the fewer numbers they have in contrast to the gallas and the Amharas and I can understand if they wanted to be free of Ethiopia not sure how abiye Ahmed Ali can accommodate them perhaps if he starts cozzing up to them and then use the tigrayans to destroy the clever by half Amharas who want the seat of abiye Ahmed Ali. South Sudan gained independence because the USA brokered a deal with Sudan and the South Sudan talks back in Nairobi in 2005. The USA would east sanction’s on basherr in his turn South Sudan would be part of Sudan for a period of 6 years then a referendum United Nations supervised referendum would take place and the results will be respected by both sides .
And that’s how they got recognition they didn’t have any colonial bounderies the evengalicial Christian’s pushed this agenda also because of oil and what not and they broke apart the largest country of Africa and there is nothing the African Union can do can the African Union say South Sudan doesn’t have the colonial bounderies thus u cannot be part of the African Union.

Eritrea did it every smart helping their cousins the tigrayans climb the seat in Addis in return the tigrayans would not oppose Eritrea independence aspirations and a United Nations supervised referendum was held . If Eritrea would declare unilateral independence and the tigrayans or the Amhara would assume power with out the help of Eritreans having an influence in Addis ababa u would have ended up like somaliland in limbo because of the tigrayan had consolidated power in Addis with out the consent and assistance of the eplf and they had control of much of Addis Ababa . They would have never allowed u to be independent and the world would follow their call on Eritrea status . Similar to Somaliiland when Mohammed Siyad Barre was defeated former president of the Somali republic the north declared unilateral independence based on the colonial bounderies of 1884 between Somalia and Somaliland . Mogadishu fell into anarchy no government for over 2 and a half decade. In 2012 the first Somali government was recognised by the USA . And the USA and the world follows what Somalia says about Somaliland status not because they are in power or have legitimacy’s but it’s just the international order of work. The USA doesn’t care if Somaliland holds twenty democratic elections it will follow what ever comes out of Mogadishu’s and Mogadishu is not willing to let go of Somaliland . Because maybe there are natural resources in Somaliland or maybe Somaliland is Somalia access to the Red Sea since Somalia has only the Indian Ocean on its side.

Back to Eritrea if Eritrea in 1991 let Ethiopia dissentigrate we the Somalis of Ethiopia would be free so would the affar and sidama and maybe even some gallas. Ethiopia would only Amhara and gurage. You could have spared ur self the badme war the twenty year sanctions on Eritrea and u could have spared ur self from a future Amhara threat to Eritrea. Golden chance missed

Dr Zackovich

[Dark Energy]

Zack,

Think about this. Eritrea kept in the house, Ethiopia would have disintegrated. The West knew that. The whole world knew that. Eritrea had to be independent.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Bro Dark Energy,

Thanks for the laugh when you responded to the agazian dude deQi by saying that you have never run for mayorship election and therefore you cannot be branded as mayor of seraye. Besides seraye is a district or a region and not a city to have a mayor. Lol

Sadly, this deQi is losing it, he is turning into a rabid dog attacking any be it left or right. He even attacks those who stand by him here in this forum.

Having said that, the dude does not lack intelligence but unfortunately he misapplies it here. He idiotically believes in tigray-tigrigni crap. He believes that eritrea same as tigray is a tigrigna and a christian state and as such he does not recognize the other ethnic groups of eritrea and tigray. He considers them as intruders and that they should never to be trusted.

Case in point, he mentioned several times here that he feels HIS BACK IS SAFE IF HE IS FOLLOWED BY A TIGRIYAN AND NOT BY A LOWLANDER FROM ERITREA.

I rest my case.

Now aite deQi, go ahead and call me mohamed hagos whatever your motive is when you apply it. BTW, for your info, Mohamed hagos is a name applied in highland eritrea and not in lowland Eritrea. The word "HAGOS" is unknown in lowland Eritrea or among my folks.

Mohammed Berhane Hagos!
Unlike the mayor of Seraye who lives in a bubble and la-la land, you understand me where I am going and the fact you preferred to keep your silent when I asked you if you were willing to sharpen your sword and preform a dance like a tamed grizzly bear in some worthless pfdj arranged expo for the sake of inclusion is a testimony that you understand me where I am going. Second, have I attacked any one except those brain-less Wedi Medhin berad supporters who try to convince people white is black and black is white?

Let me ask you the same question again, are you ready to present yourself in pfdj expo for the sake of inclusion?

[Deqi-Arawit]

I am surprised that Zackavoch who is member of the ISSA clan in Djibouti understand his eminence more than the snowflakes to what I am trying to say in regard to nation building.

Mayor of Seraye brought Ethiopia as an example to debunk my theories that there is no ethnic group which owns the country. My argument is, Ethiopia is the brainchild of Shoa Amhara, it was established to mirror amhara language, amhara culture and amhara history. Only an Amhara and to some extend the Gurage could hoist their Flag with a sense of pride while the others ethnic groups in particular the Tigrians and Oromo are embroiled in the victimization narrative that they were raped, poked, harassed and Amhara looked them down. Ethnic federalism was introduced by the leeches to put down "Amhara hegemony" once and for all, but the leeches become more amhara than Amhara because it is the only way they could control and govern the country.

The Major of Seraye also brought America as an example not knowing that America is the brainchild of the anglo- Saxon stock. Americans core value is more or less English. Other europeans mostly Germans, Italians, Scandinavian, polish who arrived later were assimilated to this Melting pot.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Dark energy u do know that deqi is not an Ethiopian but he really believes the agames are his cousins he doesn’t believe in ur theory of belew kelew he doesn’t believe kebessa are agames mixed with beja . It doesn’t make the Tigray are any different then kebessa just because agames have agew or some amharas or gallla blood. Besides Eritrea didn’t become a recognised state because it had colonial borders if colonial bounderies would would result to recognition Somaliland would have gained recognition after 32 years .

Also South Sudan who didn’t have any colonial bounderies was recognised and Somaliland was not . Do u know why because the parent country Sudan allowed a referendum to be conducted in South Sudan. Also Ethiopia allowed Eritrea to have a UN supervised referendum this resulted in the recognition of Eritrea. Not because of colonial bounderies other wise South Sudan would have not gained recognition. Since they didn’t have any colonial bounderies.

Zackavish!
The problem with the Eritrean snowflakes is, they think in terms of blood line like clan based society. Aboy-Weldaeb Weldemariam is pure breaded Tigrian hero who was born and raised in Eritrea who cared less about Tigray.

The Ancestors of Tedla Bayru, the first head of state of Eritrea was a Nigerian but he was assimilated to the society he was born into and he was able to become the head of state.