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The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Abere » 25 Mar 2023, 11:38

The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

https://borkena.com/2023/03/19/ethiopia ... in-danger/

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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Abe Abraham » 25 Mar 2023, 12:25

Abere wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 11:38
The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

https://borkena.com/2023/03/19/ethiopia ... in-danger/
Borkena:

By Haile-Gebriel Endashaw

Pulling out the Defense Force from the disputed areas has thus sparked questions from various corners.
Abere,

It is funny that Endashaw ( Amhara) is talking about " disputed areas " and you are doing as if there is no real problem but a problem " created " by the government to keep the Amharas and Tigrayans busy.

It appears that the Amharas love language very much and in general use it in a beautiful way but sometimes they lack courage and precision to express themselves and their desires. " ቀይ መስመር " ና " disputed areas " ኣብረው ኣይሄዱም ።

Besides 40,000,000 ኣማራ የት ነበሩ ኣንተ እንደምትለው " ስልጤና ትግሬ " ሲኮንስፓየሩ !!!

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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Abere » 25 Mar 2023, 12:58

Abe,

Amharas were not silent or failed to state Welqait and Raya redline. They in fact had submitted letter to AU and other parties stating the actual conflict is between TPLF and Amhara. Any negotiation and deal brokered by any party is null and void as it is no business of them but is Amhara's. TPLF and OLF ( using the Silte guy) can meet a dozen time, but the red-line is still there. As you very well know, Amhara have been deliberately disarmed for at least 35 years and many external actors have unfavorable attitude about Amhara for they dislike a stable Ethiopia. You are right, there is nothing called "dispute area", these areas were stolen and they are now back to their rightful owners by their own sacrifice.



Abe Abraham wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 12:25

It is funny that Endashaw ( Amhara) is talking about " disputed areas " and you are doing as if there is no real problem but a problem " created " by the government to keep the Amharas and Tigrayans busy.

It appears that the Amharas love language very much and in general use it in a beautiful way but sometimes they lack courage and precision to express themselves and their desires. " ቀይ መስመር " ና " disputed areas " ኣብረው ኣይሄዱም ።

Besides 40,000,000 ኣማራ የት ነበሩ ኣንተ እንደምትለው " ስልጤና ትግሬ " ሲኮንስፓየሩ !!!
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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Misraq » 25 Mar 2023, 13:56

Abe Abraham wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 12:25
Abere wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 11:38
The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

https://borkena.com/2023/03/19/ethiopia ... in-danger/
Borkena:

By Haile-Gebriel Endashaw

Pulling out the Defense Force from the disputed areas has thus sparked questions from various corners.
Abere,

It is funny that Endashaw ( Amhara) is talking about " disputed areas " and you are doing as if there is no real problem but a problem " created " by the government to keep the Amharas and Tigrayans busy.

It appears that the Amharas love language very much and in general use it in a beautiful way but sometimes they lack courage and precision to express themselves and their desires. " ቀይ መስመር " ና " disputed areas " ኣብረው ኣይሄዱም ።

Besides 40,000,000 ኣማራ የት ነበሩ ኣንተ እንደምትለው " ስልጤና ትግሬ " ሲኮንስፓየሩ !!!

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You read my mind. I suspect folks like Abere are ብዓዴን ካድሬ። They see themselves inferior to Tigre. Often, they make it sound that Tigre vs Amhara is a new thing and a creation of Prosperity Oromuma. These folks from Amhara are the lowest grade and hand picked cadres of Bereket Simon. We all know Tigres are very serious on their hate on Amhara ever since they wrote that infamous manifesto that targets amhara.

Not only that, Tigres wrote numerous hate narratives in the form of books and music's. They even took amhara lands
Comiting cleansing in Welkait and Raya. So it is disturbing to see amhara compatriots putting Tigre vs amhara as a new conspiracy. It is also disturbing to see that they are quite a lot in number.

I also suspect these group are Amharas who are diqalla with Tigre. They have this soft heart that fails to criminalize Tigre agames

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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Abere » 25 Mar 2023, 14:32

Why are you blaming me? I am just saying, Amhara does not recognize any peace deal reached by PP-OLF and TPLF. And the ስልጤ man Redwan's signature is null and void.

Misraq wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 13:56

You read my mind. I suspect folks like Abere are ብዓዴን ካድሬ። They see themselves inferior to Tigre. Often, they make it sound that Tigre vs Amhara is a new thing and a creation of Prosperity Oromuma. These folks from Amhara are the lowest grade and hand picked cadres of Bereket Simon. We all know Tigres are very serious on their hate on Amhara ever since they wrote that infamous manifesto that targets amhara.

Not only that, Tigres wrote numerous hate narratives in the form of books and music's. They even took amhara lands
Comiting cleansing in Welkait and Raya. So it is disturbing to see amhara compatriots putting Tigre vs amhara as a new conspiracy. It is also disturbing to see that they are quite a lot in number.

I also suspect these group are Amharas who are diqalla with Tigre. They have this soft heart that fails to criminalize Tigre agames

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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Misraq » 25 Mar 2023, 15:23

Abere,

You will need to understand what ብሔርተኛ means. So long as የትግሬ ብሃርተኝነት exists, there will be permanent hostility and this ብሔርተኝነት and hostility was created in Dedebit 47 years prior to Pretoria agreement.

ብሔርተኝነት in a nutshell only exists and thrives by putting one entity as a bogyman and declaring it to be eliminated permanently. ትግሬ ብሄርተኝነት and ኦሮሞ ብሄርተኝነት put amhara as a bogyman that should be eliminated. The two groups put this narrative on document begining half a century ago and the Pretoria agreement is a manifestation of that including many other things they are doing.

I therefore ask you not to buy [deleted] Habtamu ayalews narration that claims these to be a new episode that is just 2 years old. Denying this fact and propagating false narrative about it is almost equivalent to being a traitor. We do not want our people ትግሬ ብሄርተኝነት as a new thing created by Abiy Ahmed to divide amhara and Tigray. This is Banda narration

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Re: The Pretoria Agreement Signed by ስልጤ and ትግሬ --> Permanent Hostility Between Amhara & Tigre

Post by Abere » 25 Mar 2023, 16:51

I totally agree with you ትግሬ that ብሄርተኝነት is NOT born yesterday. It was born at least 50 years ago. Anyone who remember the deceased Tigre snake ገብረኪዳን ደስታ can learn how deep seated and long that hate was established. It is not even just the case of Welqiat and Raya, it is all about extermination of the name and people of Amhara - I know that. Unlike the 1990s this generation of Amhara is well aware of this fact and has increasingly become a force to fight back. The TPLF's own creation of OLF still carries on that legacy of hate against ethnic Amhara. The fabricated book of Amhara haters (የቡርቃው ዝምታ) is the other manual of destruction applied by insane Orommuma to genocide Amhara. So, really what is happening now is an awakened Amhara facing off twin enemies. In my opinion, I do not see strength in them but they are exploiting the division and weakness with in Amhara. One such weakness is ብአደን which is an imposition. This is the first layer that Amhara should peel away. As the patriotic General said it once, this appendix is good for nothing.
Misraq wrote:
25 Mar 2023, 15:23
Abere,

You will need to understand what ብሔርተኛ means. So long as የትግሬ ብሃርተኝነት exists, there will be permanent hostility and this ብሔርተኝነት and hostility was created in Dedebit 47 years prior to Pretoria agreement.

ብሔርተኝነት in a nutshell only exists and thrives by putting one entity as a bogyman and declaring it to be eliminated permanently. ትግሬ ብሄርተኝነት and ኦሮሞ ብሄርተኝነት put amhara as a bogyman that should be eliminated. The two groups put this narrative on document begining half a century ago and the Pretoria agreement is a manifestation of that including many other things they are doing.

I therefore ask you not to buy [deleted] Habtamu ayalews narration that claims these to be a new episode that is just 2 years old. Denying this fact and propagating false narrative about it is almost equivalent to being a traitor. We do not want our people ትግሬ ብሄርተኝነት as a new thing created by Abiy Ahmed to divide amhara and Tigray. This is Banda narration

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