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[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

[Sadacha Macca]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

Deqi arr,

Somalis are a minority amongst Muslims, so I have no idea why you're mentioning them, unless your girl left you for a Somali Muslim, breaking your heart, thus making you forever hold a grudge against somalis and Muslims.
There's no deception, deqi arr, if you believe in a generous creator then naturally you'll know he rewards and punishes whom he wills. The very fact that's all you focus on shows how low IQ you are.
One can be deprived of a certain enjoyment of this world but if they are from the fortunate people of paradise, they'll have many wives there and have so much enjoyment there, that the events and temporary situation of being deprived of anything of this world will be forgotten.
Vice versa, If a person is from the inhabitants of hell, one second there would make them quickly forget the pleasures of this world, even if they had trillions of dollars, a hundred women, a million cars and mansions, etc.


If you insult Islam, that's insulting over a billion people, of which the somalis are a tiny minority.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

Deqi arr,

Somalis are a minority amongst Muslims, so I have no idea why you're mentioning them, unless your girl left you for a Somali Muslim, breaking your heart, thus making you forever hold a grudge against somalis and Muslims.
There's no deception, deqi arr, if you believe in a generous creator then naturally you'll know he rewards and punishes whom he wills. The very fact that's all you focus on shows how low IQ you are.
One can be deprived of a certain enjoyment of this world but if they are from the fortunate people of paradise, they'll have many wives there and have so much enjoyment there, that the events and temporary situation of being deprived of anything of this world will be forgotten.
Vice versa, If a person is from the inhabitants of hell, one second there would make them quickly forget the pleasures of this world, even if they had trillions of dollars, a hundred women, a million cars and mansions, etc.


If you insult Islam, that's insulting over a billion people, of which the somalis are a tiny minority.

And you believe in fairytale story? by the way, what happens to women in paradise? Do they get 72 men or they become lesbians?

[Sadacha Macca]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

Deqi arr,

Somalis are a minority amongst Muslims, so I have no idea why you're mentioning them, unless your girl left you for a Somali Muslim, breaking your heart, thus making you forever hold a grudge against somalis and Muslims.
There's no deception, deqi arr, if you believe in a generous creator then naturally you'll know he rewards and punishes whom he wills. The very fact that's all you focus on shows how low IQ you are.
One can be deprived of a certain enjoyment of this world but if they are from the fortunate people of paradise, they'll have many wives there and have so much enjoyment there, that the events and temporary situation of being deprived of anything of this world will be forgotten.
Vice versa, If a person is from the inhabitants of hell, one second there would make them quickly forget the pleasures of this world, even if they had trillions of dollars, a hundred women, a million cars and mansions, etc.


If you insult Islam, that's insulting over a billion people, of which the somalis are a tiny minority.

And you believe in fairytale story? by the way, what happens to women in paradise? Do they get 72 men or they become lesbians?

Deqi arr,

Is that the best argument you have? Accusing others of being believers in something other than their desires, ego, etc? In an indirect way, that means you concede defeat.
If it's a fairytale and you believe that there's no concept of accountability for ones worldly deeds, then why are you so obsessed with it? You're obsessed with what you call fairy tales, which is beyond strange.
Whatever women in paradise get will be far better than where you'll be, burning like a well done steak, crying and being tormented by that which you once mocked.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

Deqi arr,

Somalis are a minority amongst Muslims, so I have no idea why you're mentioning them, unless your girl left you for a Somali Muslim, breaking your heart, thus making you forever hold a grudge against somalis and Muslims.
There's no deception, deqi arr, if you believe in a generous creator then naturally you'll know he rewards and punishes whom he wills. The very fact that's all you focus on shows how low IQ you are.
One can be deprived of a certain enjoyment of this world but if they are from the fortunate people of paradise, they'll have many wives there and have so much enjoyment there, that the events and temporary situation of being deprived of anything of this world will be forgotten.
Vice versa, If a person is from the inhabitants of hell, one second there would make them quickly forget the pleasures of this world, even if they had trillions of dollars, a hundred women, a million cars and mansions, etc.


If you insult Islam, that's insulting over a billion people, of which the somalis are a tiny minority.

And you believe in fairytale story? by the way, what happens to women in paradise? Do they get 72 men or they become lesbians?

Deqi arr,

Is that the best argument you have? Accusing others of being believers in something other than their desires, ego, etc? In an indirect way, that means you concede defeat.
If it's a fairytale and you believe that there's no concept of accountability for ones worldly deeds, then why are you so obsessed with it? You're obsessed with what you call fairy tales, which is beyond strange.
Whatever women in paradise get will be far better than where you'll be, burning like a well done steak, crying and being tormented by that which you once mocked.

Mini-Wuriya.
You embraced the new religion not because of conviction but because of either trendy pattern in the Neighborhood or for monetary means. To the best of my knowledge, The Oromo have rejected Islam and they were declared as Gall-La, it means basically He said no. Hence, just because I just paused not to exhaust my energy and go back and forth with you, it doesn't mean I "concede defeat" it only means, I gave you Half-mengedi treatment because having a discussion with people who have no critical thinking is a waste of time.

Having said that, , I could bring Point after point which nullifies the co called religion as bogus and a plagiarism of the Jewish holly book torah and "Ingil". And the fact that the religion is not only related to religious and spiritual matters but also, Warfare, science, politics, your day to day life, how you eat and how you have sex with your wife makes islam a soft a target to any one who can read and understand.

[Sadacha Macca]

Deqi Arr,

If Islam is false, wrong, etc, then why are you so obsessed with talking about it? Even to the point that you bring it up in topics that have nothing to do with Islam? You are obsessed. Okay, we get it, you think you know it all and that Islam is wrong; good for you. In time, you'll see what or who is wrong, and for sure, you'll be filled with regret strong enough to shake the earth.
The 72 virgin thing or however many wives a man will have, is not farfetched or unbelievable, if you believe in a generous creator (who is also stern in punishment), who is capable of every and anything he wishes. It's only unbelievable to low-IQ people who think they know it all.
BTW, here's a detailed response by Muslim scholars on that, the number of wives a man will have in paradise.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/257509/ ... -in-jannah

Sadacha. Mini-Wuriya.

You can deceive Primitive people who are deprived of sexual satisfaction on planet earth that they are going to have multiple wives when they go to Jinnah but if there is money and power, you can enjoy the Jennah on earth, the only difference is, the women on earth, they take shixxit, they bleed and some times, their breath smells awkward.



Btw, The beef was between me and the wuriya, why did you mohammed berhane hagos and you interfered in the discussion is beyond me.

Deqi arr,

Somalis are a minority amongst Muslims, so I have no idea why you're mentioning them, unless your girl left you for a Somali Muslim, breaking your heart, thus making you forever hold a grudge against somalis and Muslims.
There's no deception, deqi arr, if you believe in a generous creator then naturally you'll know he rewards and punishes whom he wills. The very fact that's all you focus on shows how low IQ you are.
One can be deprived of a certain enjoyment of this world but if they are from the fortunate people of paradise, they'll have many wives there and have so much enjoyment there, that the events and temporary situation of being deprived of anything of this world will be forgotten.
Vice versa, If a person is from the inhabitants of hell, one second there would make them quickly forget the pleasures of this world, even if they had trillions of dollars, a hundred women, a million cars and mansions, etc.


If you insult Islam, that's insulting over a billion people, of which the somalis are a tiny minority.

And you believe in fairytale story? by the way, what happens to women in paradise? Do they get 72 men or they become lesbians?

Deqi arr,

Is that the best argument you have? Accusing others of being believers in something other than their desires, ego, etc? In an indirect way, that means you concede defeat.
If it's a fairytale and you believe that there's no concept of accountability for ones worldly deeds, then why are you so obsessed with it? You're obsessed with what you call fairy tales, which is beyond strange.
Whatever women in paradise get will be far better than where you'll be, burning like a well done steak, crying and being tormented by that which you once mocked.

Mini-Wuriya.
You embraced the new religion not because of conviction but because of either trendy pattern in the Neighborhood or for monetary means. To the best of my knowledge, The Oromo have rejected Islam and they were declared as Gall-La, it means basically He said no. Hence, just because I just paused not to exhaust my energy and go back and forth with you, it doesn't mean I "concede defeat" it only means, I gave you Half-mengedi treatment because having a discussion with people who have no critical thinking is a waste of time.

Having said that, , I could bring Point after point which nullifies the co called religion as bogus and a plagiarism of the Jewish holly book torah and "Ingil". And the fact that the religion is not only related to religious and spiritual matters but also, Warfare, science, politics, your day to day life, how you eat and how you have sex with your wife makes islam a soft a target to any one who can read and understand.

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

[Misraq]

Agamew Hawdian opened this subject and left poor Sadaccha (the n!gga who accepted Islam just a few decades ago) to be obliterated beyond recognition.

Poor Sadaccha, you skillfully avoided to answer Deqi question I e the status of women in after life. Would they end up being lesbians? Would they get 72 man? Or would their virginity restore and end up being houri of Jennah? Too many unanswered questions. Obviously as an African n!gga, this is hard question for you

[Zack]

Deqi arewit it isn’t true to say that Jesus would be just a hippie today. Jesus and the old testement have war like genocidal elements in it that is premissmle to kill and plunder I can bring u the exact verse but h know this to

As for safiya the prophet wife she was married to her she was not forced to marry the prophet upon her capture when she accepted Islam she was set free and was allowed what ever she want . Hee father and brother died in battle against the Muslims it wasn’t just that the prophet went to their house and killed them as some sort of serial killer. Also there is nothing wrong with getting houris in the after life as a reward . Because the pleasure one gets from being aroused is a great thing I believe any man can agree with that even the Balles bantu misraq



Dr Zackovich

[Misraq]

Because the pleasure one gets from being aroused is a great thing I believe any man can agree with that even the Balles bantu misraq

so they say, arousal makes a man happy and that triggers a question that says what makes a woman happy? shouldn't she reach org@sm and let free from the stress surrounding her? out of the 7 Billion people in earth now, roughly 3.5 billion are women. would you mind telling us the fate of all this billions of women? would they be banged by 72 men or would they be a houri to sadacha and you?

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

First of all, no one here with half a functioning brain considers hawdian to be so Somali. If you notice, the only people here considering him Somali are those who are obviously allied to the TPLF cyber cadre troll team.
At the very most he's half Somali. And that's being overly generous.
Even beyond this particular post, you are obsessed with insulting Islam and Muslims, yet claim it's inferior and false.
If that's the case, then why keep talking about it?
Surely something's that inferior, false, etc, shouldn't have you so upset and so obsessed?
I don't even want to debate religion because if ones heart is blinded to the truth, no amount of facts and truths can work on such a person. Some people are destined to be in hell, some paradise, it's as simple as that.

Jesus peace be upon him, was living in an entirely different time and reality than other prophets, his purpose wasn't to conquer and it's not because he lacked bravery or strength, and being a pacifist isn't exactly something that makes you better or inferior to anyone btw, (for example, sulayman son of dawud (David) peace be upon them, was a great conqueror too.)

Throughout history, you've had great emperors, empires, conquerors, etc, some were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non religious, etc. To point out Muslims for that doesn't disprove the faith, in fact it proves it's truthful, because it prevailed and conquered armies that were better equipped and financed. Look even in modern times, how the strongest armies lost horribly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. As far as that poet who insulted the prophet, he also forgave Jewish people who poisoned them and forgave many others who committed crimes against him. Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself. The creator, Allaah, is the king of kings, and we're all his subjects, so those who rebel against a worldly king in this world (example, go rebel against pm Abiy, president isayas, or even a western president and you'll get dealt with violently) so Allaah the most powerful king who's even more swift and strong in punishment would deal with an openly defiant, arrogant, rebellious subject the same way or forgive if he wills.


If Jesus were here, he'd be worshipping Allaah, not himself, a mere mortal, who eats, sleeps, uses the bathroom, and was once a helpless baby. God is far above having partners, sons, etc, but in time you'll see. You'll see and be regretful but regret won't help then.
Just be patient. You'll definitely come to see and you'll remember what I said.

You mentioning the women of paradise shows that you don't have a genuine and logical reason to be against Islam. That's not even a point worth addressing. It's a non-issue.
Just a silly immature way of trolling like a teenager cursing people out back in the day on Xbox live.
The 72 virgins thing has been addressed..just read the link to what our scholars said about that. I posted it above.
As I've said before, it's not farfetched or amazing to believe a righteous man would be rewarded in the next life, women will be too in a way that befits them.




Miss rock, I know you and your tigrayan husband deqi arr are in love and are the first openly LGBTQ couple in Tigray/Ethiopia, but please, remember most of us are traditional whether we be Muslim or Christian. So leave us out of it please. That's between you guys.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

First of all, no one here with half a functioning brain considers hawdian to be so Somali. If you notice, the only people here considering him Somali are those who are obviously allied to the TPLF cyber cadre troll team.
At the very most he's half Somali. And that's being overly generous.
Even beyond this particular post, you are obsessed with insulting Islam and Muslims, yet claim it's inferior and false.
If that's the case, then why keep talking about it?
Surely something's that inferior, false, etc, shouldn't have you so upset and so obsessed?
I don't even want to debate religion because if ones heart is blinded to the truth, no amount of facts and truths can work on such a person. Some people are destined to be in hell, some paradise, it's as simple as that.

Jesus peace be upon him, was living in an entirely different time and reality than other prophets, his purpose wasn't to conquer and it's not because he lacked bravery or strength, and being a pacifist isn't exactly something that makes you better or inferior to anyone btw, (for example, sulayman son of dawud (David) peace be upon them, was a great conqueror too.)

Throughout history, you've had great emperors, empires, conquerors, etc, some were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non religious, etc. To point out Muslims for that doesn't disprove the faith, in fact it proves it's truthful, because it prevailed and conquered armies that were better equipped and financed. Look even in modern times, how the strongest armies lost horribly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. As far as that poet who insulted the prophet, he also forgave Jewish people who poisoned them and forgave many others who committed crimes against him. Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself. The creator, Allaah, is the king of kings, and we're all his subjects, so those who rebel against a worldly king in this world (example, go rebel against pm Abiy, president isayas, or even a western president and you'll get dealt with violently) so Allaah the most powerful king who's even more swift and strong in punishment would deal with an openly defiant, arrogant, rebellious subject the same way or forgive if he wills.


If Jesus were here, he'd be worshipping Allaah, not himself, a mere mortal, who eats, sleeps, uses the bathroom, and was once a helpless baby. God is far above having partners, sons, etc, but in time you'll see. You'll see and be regretful but regret won't help then.
Just be patient. You'll definitely come to see and you'll remember what I said.

You mentioning the women of paradise shows that you don't have a genuine and logical reason to be against Islam. That's not even a point worth addressing. It's a non-issue.
Just a silly immature way of trolling like a teenager cursing people out back in the day on Xbox live.
The 72 virgins thing has been addressed..just read the link to what our scholars said about that. I posted it above.
As I've said before, it's not farfetched or amazing to believe a righteous man would be rewarded in the next life, women will be too in a way that befits them.




Miss rock, I know you and your tigrayan husband deqi arr are in love and are the first openly LGBTQ couple in Tigray/Ethiopia, but please, remember most of us are traditional whether we be Muslim or Christian. So leave us out of it please. That's between you guys.

Mini-Wuriya.
Just like I expected you don't even know the religion you claimed you embraced but you are follower for the following sake. You pretended you knew what I was talking about but you failed miserably to know the narrative I put forward. You seems to be Half-mengedi caliber unable to absorb information. But don't worry, his eminence is not going to give up on you easily, just like give a share shot to every one, you will get your share.

You said and I quote.

Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself.

you mean he took the decision to order her execution in retroactive? After they killed the poet? How many times do people die? two? The stupidity is staggering.

Furthermore, You justified the punishment of the poet because there is no room to undermine the ruler and you equate God the Almighty with modern terrified leaders who don't tolerate dissent when they are undermined. Another low IQ argument. Allah in Arabic has 99 adjectives, among the most used, it is , الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ which means the Most Beneficent and the Most Merciful.. If the most merciful is going to chop a head of poet who is resistant to accept a new alien religion, why is he called he most merciful to begin with? for cosmetic purpose?

In regard to to defeat stronger armies who are better equipped, The Mongols before the emergence of Ghinghis Khan were desert dwellers just like the Arabs who were looked down by their superior Chinese and Muslim neighbors , but Ghinghis Khan gathered all the mongol tribes and formed one formidable army to defeat both the Chinese and put down the Muslim Caliphate of the Abbasid. Does his victory against better equipped and better organized army makes him a messenger of God? You just proved yourself to be a low IQ negro.

In regard to the jewish whom you claimed were forgiven? They were not forgiven but the most influential tribe, the Banu Qurayeza was exterminated and the rest were chased away from the Arabian peninsula.


Now let me return to my session about the education of the founder of Islam and I urge you to make due diligence and return if I am wrong.

Mohammed was raised by his uncle Abdul Mutalib ( The father of Imam Ali), once he reached 25 years of age, he asked for the hand of his cousin but Abdul Mutalib refused to marry his daughter to mohammed and instead gave her hand to a man by the name Hubeyra. mohammed asked his uncle why did he marry her off to another person but him, Abdul Mutalib replied The honorable goes with the honorable. . What makes mohammed less honorable when he is of the same blood and flesh as his uncle?

Mini-Wuriya. In conclusion, let his eminence give you one or two advise. Since you moan and cry the amhara have erased your identity, with accepting and embracing islam, you are just exchanging Amhara identity with Arab identity. By now, I am sure, you eat rice excessively and you dress Jalabiya and eat date fruit on regular base and it is only a matter of time your [deleted] is wide. It is also a matter of time, the names Gesgasa, Odessa, Murgasa, Gedada starts to mimic Somali formula which are, Abdi-xasan Abdul Qadir, Abdi-mohammed abdi, mohammed xasan xusen.

His eminence!

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

First of all, no one here with half a functioning brain considers hawdian to be so Somali. If you notice, the only people here considering him Somali are those who are obviously allied to the TPLF cyber cadre troll team.
At the very most he's half Somali. And that's being overly generous.
Even beyond this particular post, you are obsessed with insulting Islam and Muslims, yet claim it's inferior and false.
If that's the case, then why keep talking about it?
Surely something's that inferior, false, etc, shouldn't have you so upset and so obsessed?
I don't even want to debate religion because if ones heart is blinded to the truth, no amount of facts and truths can work on such a person. Some people are destined to be in hell, some paradise, it's as simple as that.

Jesus peace be upon him, was living in an entirely different time and reality than other prophets, his purpose wasn't to conquer and it's not because he lacked bravery or strength, and being a pacifist isn't exactly something that makes you better or inferior to anyone btw, (for example, sulayman son of dawud (David) peace be upon them, was a great conqueror too.)

Throughout history, you've had great emperors, empires, conquerors, etc, some were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non religious, etc. To point out Muslims for that doesn't disprove the faith, in fact it proves it's truthful, because it prevailed and conquered armies that were better equipped and financed. Look even in modern times, how the strongest armies lost horribly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. As far as that poet who insulted the prophet, he also forgave Jewish people who poisoned them and forgave many others who committed crimes against him. Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself. The creator, Allaah, is the king of kings, and we're all his subjects, so those who rebel against a worldly king in this world (example, go rebel against pm Abiy, president isayas, or even a western president and you'll get dealt with violently) so Allaah the most powerful king who's even more swift and strong in punishment would deal with an openly defiant, arrogant, rebellious subject the same way or forgive if he wills.


If Jesus were here, he'd be worshipping Allaah, not himself, a mere mortal, who eats, sleeps, uses the bathroom, and was once a helpless baby. God is far above having partners, sons, etc, but in time you'll see. You'll see and be regretful but regret won't help then.
Just be patient. You'll definitely come to see and you'll remember what I said.

You mentioning the women of paradise shows that you don't have a genuine and logical reason to be against Islam. That's not even a point worth addressing. It's a non-issue.
Just a silly immature way of trolling like a teenager cursing people out back in the day on Xbox live.
The 72 virgins thing has been addressed..just read the link to what our scholars said about that. I posted it above.
As I've said before, it's not farfetched or amazing to believe a righteous man would be rewarded in the next life, women will be too in a way that befits them.




Miss rock, I know you and your tigrayan husband deqi arr are in love and are the first openly LGBTQ couple in Tigray/Ethiopia, but please, remember most of us are traditional whether we be Muslim or Christian. So leave us out of it please. That's between you guys.

Mini-Wuriya.
Just like I expected you don't even know the religion you claimed you embraced but you are follower for the following sake. You pretended you knew what I was talking about but you failed miserably to know the narrative I put forward. You seems to be Half-mengedi caliber unable to absorb information. But don't worry, his eminence is not going to give up on you easily, just like give a share shot to every one, you will get your share.

You said and I quote.

Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself.

you mean he took the decision to order her execution in retroactive? After they killed the poet? How many times do people die? two? The stupidity is staggering.

Furthermore, You justified the punishment of the poet because there is no room to undermine the ruler and you equate God the Almighty with modern terrified leaders who don't tolerate dissent when they are undermined. Another low IQ argument. Allah in Arabic has 99 adjectives, among the most used, it is , الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ which means the Most Beneficent and the Most Merciful.. If the most merciful is going to chop a head of poet who is resistant to accept a new alien religion, why is he called he most merciful to begin with? for cosmetic purpose?

In regard to to defeat stronger armies who are better equipped, The Mongols before the emergence of Ghinghis Khan were desert dwellers just like the Arabs who were looked down by their superior Chinese and Muslim neighbors , but Ghinghis Khan gathered all the mongol tribes and formed one formidable army to defeat both the Chinese and put down the Muslim Caliphate of the Abbasid. Does his victory against better equipped and better organized army makes him a messenger of God? You just proved yourself to be a low IQ negro.

In regard to the jewish whom you claimed were forgiven? They were not forgiven but the most influential tribe, the Banu Qurayeza was exterminated and the rest were chased away from the Arabian peninsula.


Now let me return to my session about the education of the founder of Islam and I urge you to make due diligence and return if I am wrong.

Mohammed was raised by his uncle Abdul Mutalib ( The father of Imam Ali), once he reached 25 years of age, he asked for the hand of his cousin but Abdul Mutalib refused to marry his daughter to mohammed and instead gave her hand to a man by the name Hubeyra. mohammed asked his uncle why did he marry her off to another person but him, Abdul Mutalib replied The honorable goes with the honorable. . What makes mohammed less honorable when he is of the same blood and flesh as his uncle?

Mini-Wuriya. In conclusion, let his eminence give you one or two advise. Since you moan and cry the amhara have erased your identity, with accepting and embracing islam, you are just exchanging Amhara identity with Arab identity. By now, I am sure, you eat rice excessively and you dress Jalabiya and eat date fruit on regular base and it is only a matter of time your [deleted] is wide. It is also a matter of time, the names Gesgasa, Odessa, Murgasa, Gedada starts to mimic Somali formula which are, Abdi-xasan Abdul Qadir, Abdi-mohammed abdi, mohammed xasan xusen.

His eminence!

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

What part don't you get? Make it clear, as opposed to being vague and not giving specific examples.
The poet issue, I did quick research and it'll be clear after I post this:


Degree of reports about the killing of `Asma bint Marwan
As for the report about the slaying of ‘Asma bint Marwan that is propagated by these liars, it is a fabricated report. It was narrated by al-Qadai in Musnad ash-Shihab (856), al-Khatib in at-Tarikh (13/99), Ibn ‘Asakir in his Tarikh (51/244), and Ibn ‘Umar al-Harbi in his Fawaid (50), all via Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj al-Lakhami Abu Ibrahim al-Wasiti from Mujalid ibn Sa‘id from ash-Sha‘bi from Ibn ‘Abbas, who said:

A woman from Banu Khatamah wrote poetry lampooning the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and news of that reached the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and upset him. He said: “Who will deal with her for me?” A man from among her people said: I will, O Messenger of Allah! She was a seller of dates, so he went to her and said to her: Do you have any dates? She said: Yes. So she showed him some dates, and he said: I want something better than this. So she went inside to show him and he followed her and looked right and left, but he did not see anything except a small table, and he kept hitting her head with it until he killed her. Then he went to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: O Messenger of Allah, I have taken care of her for you. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.”

This woman was ‘Asma bint Marwan.

“This is an invalid isnad and a fabricated report that was narrated by Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj of whom al-Bukhari said: His hadith is to be rejected. Ibn Ma‘in said: (He is) an evil liar. Ad-Daraqutni said: (He is) a liar; and on one occasion he said: He is not trustworthy.” (Mizan al-I‘tidal, 3/509)

Ibn ‘Adiyy said:

“Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj fabricated the hadith about the woman who used to lampoon the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), according to which when she was killed he (allegedly) said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.” (Al-Mawdu‘at by Ibn al-Jawzi 3/18)

This hadith was also mentioned by Shaykh al-Albani (may Allah have mercy on him) in ad-Da‘ifah (6013); he said it is fabricated (mawdu‘).

It was narrated by al-Waqidi in al-Maghazi (p. 173) and via him by al-Qadai (858):

“‘Abdullah ibn al-Harith told me, from his father, that ‘Asma bint Marwan, from Banu Umayyah ibn Zayd, was married to Yazid ibn Zayd ibn Hisn al-Khatmi. She used to revile the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), criticise Islam and incite people against the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). When news of what she said and her incitement of the people reached ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy ibn Kharashah ibn Umayyah al-Khatmi, he said: O Allah, I make a vow to You that I shall kill her if You grant a safe return to Madinah to the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) – as the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was in Badr at that time. When the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came back from Badr, ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy came to her in the middle of the night and entered upon her in her house when she had a group of her children sleeping around her, including an infant who was still being breastfed. He reached out to touch her and found the infant whom she was breastfeeding. He pushed the child aside then he plunged his sword into her chest until it came out of her back. Then he went out and prayed Fajr with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) in Madinah. When the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) finished praying, he looked at ‘Umayr and said: Did you kill the daughter of Marwan? He said: Yes, may my father be sacrificed for you, O Messenger of Allah.

‘Umayr was afraid that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) would not approve of his killing her, so he said: Is there any sin on me for that, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.” And this is the first time I heard this phrase from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). ‘Umayr said: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) turned to those who were around him and said: “If you want to see a man who supported Allah and His Messenger, then look at ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy.”

“This is a worthless isnad. Imam Ahmad said concerning al-Waqidi – whose name was Muhammad ibn ‘Umar ibn Waqid – : He is a liar; he alters hadiths. Ibn Ma‘in said: He is not trustworthy. On one occasion he said: His hadith is not to b written down. Al-Bukhari and Abu Hatim said: He is matruk (rejected). Abu Haatim and an-Nasai said: He fabricates hadith. Ibn ‘Adiyy said: His hadiths are odd and problematic. Ibn al-Madini said: al-Waqidi fabricates hadith.” (Mizan al-I‘tidal, 3/663)

An-Nasai said:

“The liars who are known for fabricating hadith are four: Ibrahim ibn Abi Yahya in Madinah, al-Waqidi in Baghdad, Muqatil in Khorasan and Muhammad ibn Sa‘id in Syria.” (Tahdhib at-Tahdhib, 9/163)

And Allah knows best.



The situation I was thinking of, was another one entirely.

Your 2nd point about ordering it, when did I say that? I said he didn't order it, but learnt of it AFTERWARDS and APPROVED it, which is DIFFERENT than ORDERING it ''retroactively.''
Tigrayan brother, you need help with your comprehension skills, urgently.
If it's a LOW IQ argument, then why can't you refute it, as opposed to just repeating insults over and over like a teenager playing xbox live?
Yes, Allaah is merciful, this is known, but he is also stern and strong in punishment, as (just) kings in this world are (they are both kind to their subjects but also severe in wars when the need arises), so even more so for the king of kings who has no comparison.
One of his names is also: Ad-Daarr- the distressors, the punisher (of whom he wills) and this is how he's described himself, as both the punisher and the merciful/forgiver, and he forgives whom he wills, and punishes whom he wills, all according to his infinite wisdom and judgement.
Funny how you completely ignored that part of what I said too, which shows, you lack an argument against it.

In regards to the Mongols, if you wish to compare it, ask yourself: who has more land, followers, resources, prestige, etc, in the world: Muslims or Mongols?
Wins and losses alternate between men, including Muslims of course, but in the end, we see who has more followers, power, wealth, prestige, etc, between the two groups and it's not even close.

I am talking about a specific example of the jews, Zaynab d. al-Harith-not the jews in general. the banu qurayza were not attacked until they assisted the enemies of the Muslims who were fighting them.
Muslims did not initiate that conflict, while there is disagreements on whether or not there was a treaty between them (Muslims and Banu Qurayza), there is no disagreement that the banu q. agreed not to assist the enemies of the Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza the sources can be found here. and in other sources/records easily found online.

Tigrayan brother, Islam may have Arabic as its language, but it is not arab culture, since many arabs are not Muslims and thus, will be doomed in the hereafter, while a Black Muslim or an European Muslim is superior to them in the sight of the creator.
Culture won't matter when it comes down to the more serious issues, i.e. who will be saved from hellfire and who will be admitted into paradise.
Eating rice is also not an ''arab thing'' exclusively nor is eating dates, nor are those bad foods, and the fact that you're talking about a mans (deleted) shows that you are indeed, the first LQBTQ couple openly dating miss rock the first openly ethiopian LGBTQ person, but hey, that's y'alls life, not ours or mines.

[Deqi-Arawit]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

First of all, no one here with half a functioning brain considers hawdian to be so Somali. If you notice, the only people here considering him Somali are those who are obviously allied to the TPLF cyber cadre troll team.
At the very most he's half Somali. And that's being overly generous.
Even beyond this particular post, you are obsessed with insulting Islam and Muslims, yet claim it's inferior and false.
If that's the case, then why keep talking about it?
Surely something's that inferior, false, etc, shouldn't have you so upset and so obsessed?
I don't even want to debate religion because if ones heart is blinded to the truth, no amount of facts and truths can work on such a person. Some people are destined to be in hell, some paradise, it's as simple as that.

Jesus peace be upon him, was living in an entirely different time and reality than other prophets, his purpose wasn't to conquer and it's not because he lacked bravery or strength, and being a pacifist isn't exactly something that makes you better or inferior to anyone btw, (for example, sulayman son of dawud (David) peace be upon them, was a great conqueror too.)

Throughout history, you've had great emperors, empires, conquerors, etc, some were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non religious, etc. To point out Muslims for that doesn't disprove the faith, in fact it proves it's truthful, because it prevailed and conquered armies that were better equipped and financed. Look even in modern times, how the strongest armies lost horribly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. As far as that poet who insulted the prophet, he also forgave Jewish people who poisoned them and forgave many others who committed crimes against him. Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself. The creator, Allaah, is the king of kings, and we're all his subjects, so those who rebel against a worldly king in this world (example, go rebel against pm Abiy, president isayas, or even a western president and you'll get dealt with violently) so Allaah the most powerful king who's even more swift and strong in punishment would deal with an openly defiant, arrogant, rebellious subject the same way or forgive if he wills.


If Jesus were here, he'd be worshipping Allaah, not himself, a mere mortal, who eats, sleeps, uses the bathroom, and was once a helpless baby. God is far above having partners, sons, etc, but in time you'll see. You'll see and be regretful but regret won't help then.
Just be patient. You'll definitely come to see and you'll remember what I said.

You mentioning the women of paradise shows that you don't have a genuine and logical reason to be against Islam. That's not even a point worth addressing. It's a non-issue.
Just a silly immature way of trolling like a teenager cursing people out back in the day on Xbox live.
The 72 virgins thing has been addressed..just read the link to what our scholars said about that. I posted it above.
As I've said before, it's not farfetched or amazing to believe a righteous man would be rewarded in the next life, women will be too in a way that befits them.




Miss rock, I know you and your tigrayan husband deqi arr are in love and are the first openly LGBTQ couple in Tigray/Ethiopia, but please, remember most of us are traditional whether we be Muslim or Christian. So leave us out of it please. That's between you guys.

Mini-Wuriya.
Just like I expected you don't even know the religion you claimed you embraced but you are follower for the following sake. You pretended you knew what I was talking about but you failed miserably to know the narrative I put forward. You seems to be Half-mengedi caliber unable to absorb information. But don't worry, his eminence is not going to give up on you easily, just like give a share shot to every one, you will get your share.

You said and I quote.

Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself.

you mean he took the decision to order her execution in retroactive? After they killed the poet? How many times do people die? two? The stupidity is staggering.

Furthermore, You justified the punishment of the poet because there is no room to undermine the ruler and you equate God the Almighty with modern terrified leaders who don't tolerate dissent when they are undermined. Another low IQ argument. Allah in Arabic has 99 adjectives, among the most used, it is , الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ which means the Most Beneficent and the Most Merciful.. If the most merciful is going to chop a head of poet who is resistant to accept a new alien religion, why is he called he most merciful to begin with? for cosmetic purpose?

In regard to to defeat stronger armies who are better equipped, The Mongols before the emergence of Ghinghis Khan were desert dwellers just like the Arabs who were looked down by their superior Chinese and Muslim neighbors , but Ghinghis Khan gathered all the mongol tribes and formed one formidable army to defeat both the Chinese and put down the Muslim Caliphate of the Abbasid. Does his victory against better equipped and better organized army makes him a messenger of God? You just proved yourself to be a low IQ negro.

In regard to the jewish whom you claimed were forgiven? They were not forgiven but the most influential tribe, the Banu Qurayeza was exterminated and the rest were chased away from the Arabian peninsula.


Now let me return to my session about the education of the founder of Islam and I urge you to make due diligence and return if I am wrong.

Mohammed was raised by his uncle Abdul Mutalib ( The father of Imam Ali), once he reached 25 years of age, he asked for the hand of his cousin but Abdul Mutalib refused to marry his daughter to mohammed and instead gave her hand to a man by the name Hubeyra. mohammed asked his uncle why did he marry her off to another person but him, Abdul Mutalib replied The honorable goes with the honorable. . What makes mohammed less honorable when he is of the same blood and flesh as his uncle?

Mini-Wuriya. In conclusion, let his eminence give you one or two advise. Since you moan and cry the amhara have erased your identity, with accepting and embracing islam, you are just exchanging Amhara identity with Arab identity. By now, I am sure, you eat rice excessively and you dress Jalabiya and eat date fruit on regular base and it is only a matter of time your [deleted] is wide. It is also a matter of time, the names Gesgasa, Odessa, Murgasa, Gedada starts to mimic Somali formula which are, Abdi-xasan Abdul Qadir, Abdi-mohammed abdi, mohammed xasan xusen.

His eminence!

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

What part don't you get? Make it clear, as opposed to being vague and not giving specific examples.
The poet issue, I did quick research and it'll be clear after I post this:


Degree of reports about the killing of `Asma bint Marwan
As for the report about the slaying of ‘Asma bint Marwan that is propagated by these liars, it is a fabricated report. It was narrated by al-Qadai in Musnad ash-Shihab (856), al-Khatib in at-Tarikh (13/99), Ibn ‘Asakir in his Tarikh (51/244), and Ibn ‘Umar al-Harbi in his Fawaid (50), all via Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj al-Lakhami Abu Ibrahim al-Wasiti from Mujalid ibn Sa‘id from ash-Sha‘bi from Ibn ‘Abbas, who said:

A woman from Banu Khatamah wrote poetry lampooning the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), and news of that reached the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and upset him. He said: “Who will deal with her for me?” A man from among her people said: I will, O Messenger of Allah! She was a seller of dates, so he went to her and said to her: Do you have any dates? She said: Yes. So she showed him some dates, and he said: I want something better than this. So she went inside to show him and he followed her and looked right and left, but he did not see anything except a small table, and he kept hitting her head with it until he killed her. Then he went to the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) and said: O Messenger of Allah, I have taken care of her for you. The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.”

This woman was ‘Asma bint Marwan.

“This is an invalid isnad and a fabricated report that was narrated by Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj of whom al-Bukhari said: His hadith is to be rejected. Ibn Ma‘in said: (He is) an evil liar. Ad-Daraqutni said: (He is) a liar; and on one occasion he said: He is not trustworthy.” (Mizan al-I‘tidal, 3/509)

Ibn ‘Adiyy said:

“Muhammad ibn al-Hajjaj fabricated the hadith about the woman who used to lampoon the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), according to which when she was killed he (allegedly) said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.” (Al-Mawdu‘at by Ibn al-Jawzi 3/18)

This hadith was also mentioned by Shaykh al-Albani (may Allah have mercy on him) in ad-Da‘ifah (6013); he said it is fabricated (mawdu‘).

It was narrated by al-Waqidi in al-Maghazi (p. 173) and via him by al-Qadai (858):

“‘Abdullah ibn al-Harith told me, from his father, that ‘Asma bint Marwan, from Banu Umayyah ibn Zayd, was married to Yazid ibn Zayd ibn Hisn al-Khatmi. She used to revile the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him), criticise Islam and incite people against the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). When news of what she said and her incitement of the people reached ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy ibn Kharashah ibn Umayyah al-Khatmi, he said: O Allah, I make a vow to You that I shall kill her if You grant a safe return to Madinah to the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) – as the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was in Badr at that time. When the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) came back from Badr, ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy came to her in the middle of the night and entered upon her in her house when she had a group of her children sleeping around her, including an infant who was still being breastfed. He reached out to touch her and found the infant whom she was breastfeeding. He pushed the child aside then he plunged his sword into her chest until it came out of her back. Then he went out and prayed Fajr with the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) in Madinah. When the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) finished praying, he looked at ‘Umayr and said: Did you kill the daughter of Marwan? He said: Yes, may my father be sacrificed for you, O Messenger of Allah.

‘Umayr was afraid that the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) would not approve of his killing her, so he said: Is there any sin on me for that, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “The validity of what you have done is something that no one could dispute.” And this is the first time I heard this phrase from the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). ‘Umayr said: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) turned to those who were around him and said: “If you want to see a man who supported Allah and His Messenger, then look at ‘Umayr ibn ‘Adiyy.”

“This is a worthless isnad. Imam Ahmad said concerning al-Waqidi – whose name was Muhammad ibn ‘Umar ibn Waqid – : He is a liar; he alters hadiths. Ibn Ma‘in said: He is not trustworthy. On one occasion he said: His hadith is not to b written down. Al-Bukhari and Abu Hatim said: He is matruk (rejected). Abu Haatim and an-Nasai said: He fabricates hadith. Ibn ‘Adiyy said: His hadiths are odd and problematic. Ibn al-Madini said: al-Waqidi fabricates hadith.” (Mizan al-I‘tidal, 3/663)

An-Nasai said:

“The liars who are known for fabricating hadith are four: Ibrahim ibn Abi Yahya in Madinah, al-Waqidi in Baghdad, Muqatil in Khorasan and Muhammad ibn Sa‘id in Syria.” (Tahdhib at-Tahdhib, 9/163)

And Allah knows best.



The situation I was thinking of, was another one entirely.

Your 2nd point about ordering it, when did I say that? I said he didn't order it, but learnt of it AFTERWARDS and APPROVED it, which is DIFFERENT than ORDERING it ''retroactively.''
Tigrayan brother, you need help with your comprehension skills, urgently.
If it's a LOW IQ argument, then why can't you refute it, as opposed to just repeating insults over and over like a teenager playing xbox live?
Yes, Allaah is merciful, this is known, but he is also stern and strong in punishment, as (just) kings in this world are (they are both kind to their subjects but also severe in wars when the need arises), so even more so for the king of kings who has no comparison.
One of his names is also: Ad-Daarr- the distressors, the punisher (of whom he wills) and this is how he's described himself, as both the punisher and the merciful/forgiver, and he forgives whom he wills, and punishes whom he wills, all according to his infinite wisdom and judgement.
Funny how you completely ignored that part of what I said too, which shows, you lack an argument against it.

In regards to the Mongols, if you wish to compare it, ask yourself: who has more land, followers, resources, prestige, etc, in the world: Muslims or Mongols?
Wins and losses alternate between men, including Muslims of course, but in the end, we see who has more followers, power, wealth, prestige, etc, between the two groups and it's not even close.

I am talking about a specific example of the jews, Zaynab d. al-Harith-not the jews in general. the banu qurayza were not attacked until they assisted the enemies of the Muslims who were fighting them.
Muslims did not initiate that conflict, while there is disagreements on whether or not there was a treaty between them (Muslims and Banu Qurayza), there is no disagreement that the banu q. agreed not to assist the enemies of the Muslims.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Banu_Qurayza the sources can be found here. and in other sources/records easily found online.

Tigrayan brother, Islam may have Arabic as its language, but it is not arab culture, since many arabs are not Muslims and thus, will be doomed in the hereafter, while a Black Muslim or an European Muslim is superior to them in the sight of the creator.
Culture won't matter when it comes down to the more serious issues, i.e. who will be saved from hellfire and who will be admitted into paradise.
Eating rice is also not an ''arab thing'' exclusively nor is eating dates, nor are those bad foods, and the fact that you're talking about a mans (deleted) shows that you are indeed, the first LQBTQ couple openly dating miss rock the first openly ethiopian LGBTQ person, but hey, that's y'alls life, not ours or mines.

Mini-Wurya!
You are a low IQ individual who is copying and pasting. Advise; Read your non sense and summarize it with your own words. Otherwise, This is Afdist or Ethiopianunity post which doesn't get my attention.

Furthermore, You are trying to sugarcoat the brutal execution of Asma Bint Marwan by mohammed, the fact remain, the man ordered her execution and the assassin killed her while she was breast-feeding her child. So much compassion and mercifulness.

In conclusion: The Great Mustafa Kemal Ataturk summarize the theology by one sentence. Former Gesgasa Murgasa current Xasan Xuasen should take note here.

[Sadacha Macca]

Tigrayan Brother Deqi Arr,

In other words, you lack an actual response, so you're deflecting and running; in other words, you concede defeat.
Which is fine, because I believe religion should not be debated, especially when certain people are arrogant and ignorant to the point that they think they already know it all (aka, You).
Old names and so on, are irrelevant. Cause, if we go back far enough, your ancestors weren't hagos, tewelde, afwerki, gebremehdin and so on.

[Zack]

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

You know nothing about me, therefore any assumptions you make about me and or my reason I'm Muslim, is just conjecture, with no facts or evidence to substantiate your claim. In other words, it's a lie.

The fact that you're so obsessed with something you deen to be false fairy-tales shows that youre having contradicting feelings or thoughts.
If you don't believe in Islam, accountability in this life and in the hereafter, punishment and reward in the hereafter, etc .. then why are you so obsessed with mentioning Islam so much, even bringing it up onto topics which have nothing to do with Islam?

Surely if it's so false and wrong, you'd ignore it and just wait until you see irrefutable proof in the hereafter, when you're filled with regret strong enough to shake the universe. But alas, regret when it's too late is useless.


"Critical thinking" to you is insults and repeating the same thing over and over. Saying "72 virgins" and other nonsense over and over is your version of "critical thinking." Hilarious indeed. As if you know it all, when in reality, you're a very flawed human like us all, who doesn't even know what will occur in the next minute, forget about claiming to know something is false and nonexistent.


Islam is a complete way of life, yes, as revealed by the creator to the creation, and the one who created you and everything has the right to command his creation on how to live. Bringing that up doesn't disprove anything about it. You haven't made a single point that's legitimate yet you still sit here and act like a know it all.

Disobedience to the creator is punished and obedience is rewarded. You still have free will, you and humans generally have freewill, even if it leads them to hellfire.

Mini Wuriya!
I am not the one who is obsessed with Islam but Wuriyas attempt to bash the Orthodox Church is what brought his eminence to the discussion. Second, in my discussion with Muslims, They always claim that Islam is the only religion which is complete, free from fault ( AL din al Haq) and Mohammed is the last God°s messenger. Hence, I started my own little research about the religion and that fact that you are able to have 4 concubines (4 wives) while you live and 72 wives in the afterlife is also another tempting factor which encouraged my little search.

Personally, I believe religion is a subjective matter. What is true to you, doesn't necessary mean is true to me. For instance the Indians believe that Cow is sacrosanct and it has Devine symbol and significance in India. In my approach to them, who am I to tell them with conviction that their religion is wrong and they should fellow my own understanding of the existence of the almighty? But that is exactly what Muslims do and with so much audacity and conviction. another factor which invokes my curiosity about the religion.

Now, lets return to my little research. To understand the religion, I needed to go the its founder Mohammad, his character and his similarities with other prophets of the abrahamic religions and the Buddhism.

Siddhartha Guatama the founder of the religion of Buddhism hails from a royal family lineage who had every luxury a person can have, yet he renounced his royal palace to search and seek better purpose in life in the spiritual domain. Hence, He lead a life of begging, mediation and a life which is characterized by the absence of the earthly pleasure we mortals rank high which are material possessions, physical pleasures aka sex, fasting and reflection on spiritual matters. Regardless if you believe In the Buddha religion or not, you can't help but to admire its founder, a man going against the mainstream, getting rid of arrogance, power, influence and instead embracing simple life for the purpose what he deems spiritual.

Jesus Christ, If Jesus was alive today, he would have been a hippie who would advocate for an utopias society on which every member of the society is good and compassionate against each other. no killing, no grudge, forgive and love your enemy to the extend, you need to turn your other cheek. At the end, He was tortured, killed and crucified by the Romans.

Mohammed in the other hand was a war machine like Ghinghis Khan, womanizer like Cosmonova and empire builder like Alexander the Great. True to be said that Mohammed was lenient person in Mecca where his followers were few and had no power and influence but once he moved to Medina and became a man of the sward and influence, he became a brutal ruler on which descent is neither accepted nor tolerated.


Cruelty


Mohammed ordered the death of a female poet by the name Asma Bint Marwan because she ridiculed him with her poem. When his followers killed her while she was breast-feeding her child and tore her body apart limb from limp and returned to Mohammed and screamed Allah Wakber, Allah Wakber, his reply was . No two goats would lock horns over her.

Another victim of Mohammed cruelty was Safiyaa Bin Huyay a jewish woman on which Mohamed killed both her father and husband and then had sex with her.

2 sisters dispatched by the governor of Egypt to mohammed as tribute on which mohammed held one of them as concubine.

A prophet is supposed to be send by the almighty for the betterment of humanity, If so why is slavery halal in Islam?

Another thing which strikes me most is, his interpretation to Paradise and the 72 virgins who are waiting us. Respect your parents is one of the 10 commandments in the old testament and lets see how mohammed treat this command.

In the battle of Badr. The army of mohammed and the troops of the Qurayesh clashed against each other, Abdullah ibn al-Jarrah who faced his own son in the battle was about to strike him with the sward, however his blood connection with his son trigged him to be hesitant and abort the killing. His son, Abu Ubayda ibn al Jarrah however, once he got a chance to attack his father, he never hesitated, he strikes him and severed his father°s head....And mohammed promised him Jennah aka paradise.

I tried to find similarities between Mohammeds and King David in their relationship with women and their desire to have them. The difference is though, While King David was punished by God for abusing and misusing his power to dispatch the husband of his mistress to certain death so that he could marry her, mohammed never got any punishment.

For this reason, Islam°s founder is a fraud in his claim that he was a prophet but he should be admired for turning the Arabs from desert dwellers to the people who defeated two greatest empire of the time.

In conclusion, You said, Islam is a complete way of life. when its founder is a womanizer, warrior minded vengeful individual who distinguished people from people, what kind of life do you want to live and coexist with other human-beings?

His eminence Deqi-Arawit

Tigrayan brother deqi arr,

First of all, no one here with half a functioning brain considers hawdian to be so Somali. If you notice, the only people here considering him Somali are those who are obviously allied to the TPLF cyber cadre troll team.
At the very most he's half Somali. And that's being overly generous.
Even beyond this particular post, you are obsessed with insulting Islam and Muslims, yet claim it's inferior and false.
If that's the case, then why keep talking about it?
Surely something's that inferior, false, etc, shouldn't have you so upset and so obsessed?
I don't even want to debate religion because if ones heart is blinded to the truth, no amount of facts and truths can work on such a person. Some people are destined to be in hell, some paradise, it's as simple as that.

Jesus peace be upon him, was living in an entirely different time and reality than other prophets, his purpose wasn't to conquer and it's not because he lacked bravery or strength, and being a pacifist isn't exactly something that makes you better or inferior to anyone btw, (for example, sulayman son of dawud (David) peace be upon them, was a great conqueror too.)

Throughout history, you've had great emperors, empires, conquerors, etc, some were Christian, Muslim, Jewish, non religious, etc. To point out Muslims for that doesn't disprove the faith, in fact it proves it's truthful, because it prevailed and conquered armies that were better equipped and financed. Look even in modern times, how the strongest armies lost horribly in Afghanistan, Iraq, Chechnya, etc. As far as that poet who insulted the prophet, he also forgave Jewish people who poisoned them and forgave many others who committed crimes against him. Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself. The creator, Allaah, is the king of kings, and we're all his subjects, so those who rebel against a worldly king in this world (example, go rebel against pm Abiy, president isayas, or even a western president and you'll get dealt with violently) so Allaah the most powerful king who's even more swift and strong in punishment would deal with an openly defiant, arrogant, rebellious subject the same way or forgive if he wills.


If Jesus were here, he'd be worshipping Allaah, not himself, a mere mortal, who eats, sleeps, uses the bathroom, and was once a helpless baby. God is far above having partners, sons, etc, but in time you'll see. You'll see and be regretful but regret won't help then.
Just be patient. You'll definitely come to see and you'll remember what I said.

You mentioning the women of paradise shows that you don't have a genuine and logical reason to be against Islam. That's not even a point worth addressing. It's a non-issue.
Just a silly immature way of trolling like a teenager cursing people out back in the day on Xbox live.
The 72 virgins thing has been addressed..just read the link to what our scholars said about that. I posted it above.
As I've said before, it's not farfetched or amazing to believe a righteous man would be rewarded in the next life, women will be too in a way that befits them.




Miss rock, I know you and your tigrayan husband deqi arr are in love and are the first openly LGBTQ couple in Tigray/Ethiopia, but please, remember most of us are traditional whether we be Muslim or Christian. So leave us out of it please. That's between you guys.

Mini-Wuriya.
Just like I expected you don't even know the religion you claimed you embraced but you are follower for the following sake. You pretended you knew what I was talking about but you failed miserably to know the narrative I put forward. You seems to be Half-mengedi caliber unable to absorb information. But don't worry, his eminence is not going to give up on you easily, just like give a share shot to every one, you will get your share.

You said and I quote.

Keep in mind that poet was killed without the prophet knowing or calling for it until later. He approved once he found out why. Insulting the messenger of the creator is equal to insulting the creator himself.

you mean he took the decision to order her execution in retroactive? After they killed the poet? How many times do people die? two? The stupidity is staggering.

Furthermore, You justified the punishment of the poet because there is no room to undermine the ruler and you equate God the Almighty with modern terrified leaders who don't tolerate dissent when they are undermined. Another low IQ argument. Allah in Arabic has 99 adjectives, among the most used, it is , الرَّحْمَٰنِ الرَّحِيمِ which means the Most Beneficent and the Most Merciful.. If the most merciful is going to chop a head of poet who is resistant to accept a new alien religion, why is he called he most merciful to begin with? for cosmetic purpose?

In regard to to defeat stronger armies who are better equipped, The Mongols before the emergence of Ghinghis Khan were desert dwellers just like the Arabs who were looked down by their superior Chinese and Muslim neighbors , but Ghinghis Khan gathered all the mongol tribes and formed one formidable army to defeat both the Chinese and put down the Muslim Caliphate of the Abbasid. Does his victory against better equipped and better organized army makes him a messenger of God? You just proved yourself to be a low IQ negro.

In regard to the jewish whom you claimed were forgiven? They were not forgiven but the most influential tribe, the Banu Qurayeza was exterminated and the rest were chased away from the Arabian peninsula.


Now let me return to my session about the education of the founder of Islam and I urge you to make due diligence and return if I am wrong.

Mohammed was raised by his uncle Abdul Mutalib ( The father of Imam Ali), once he reached 25 years of age, he asked for the hand of his cousin but Abdul Mutalib refused to marry his daughter to mohammed and instead gave her hand to a man by the name Hubeyra. mohammed asked his uncle why did he marry her off to another person but him, Abdul Mutalib replied The honorable goes with the honorable. . What makes mohammed less honorable when he is of the same blood and flesh as his uncle?

Mini-Wuriya. In conclusion, let his eminence give you one or two advise. Since you moan and cry the amhara have erased your identity, with accepting and embracing islam, you are just exchanging Amhara identity with Arab identity. By now, I am sure, you eat rice excessively and you dress Jalabiya and eat date fruit on regular base and it is only a matter of time your [deleted] is wide. It is also a matter of time, the names Gesgasa, Odessa, Murgasa, Gedada starts to mimic Somali formula which are, Abdi-xasan Abdul Qadir, Abdi-mohammed abdi, mohammed xasan xusen.

His eminence!

This is not true first mistake is the. Prophets uncle was not abdulmuttalib as u said but it was abu thalib Abu thalib was the father of imam Ali the cousin of the prophet had prophet Muhammed wanted to marry of abdulmuttalib it would have been. That the prophet wanted to marry his own aunt . And that is unacceptable in Islam and even in pre arabian culture
The story ur talking about is fakhita one of the daughters of abuthalib the sister of the imam . It’s true the that abuthalib said the noble goes with the noble and that was purely because Abu thalib wanted to see money and his nephew didn’t have much money back then. It had nothing to do with him being not noble he is the son of his own brother . What one should also know is that abuthalib was not a Muslim so the jahiliya of wealth and no wealth was stlll in them nonetheless the prophet loved his uncle abu thalib for he protected him in times of need


Dr Zackovich

[Deqi-Arawit]

Deqi arewit it isn’t true to say that Jesus would be just a hippie today. Jesus and the old testement have war like genocidal elements in it that is premissmle to kill and plunder I can bring u the exact verse but h know this to

As for safiya the prophet wife she was married to her she was not forced to marry the prophet upon her capture when she accepted Islam she was set free and was allowed what ever she want . Hee father and brother died in battle against the Muslims it wasn’t just that the prophet went to their house and killed them as some sort of serial killer. Also there is nothing wrong with getting houris in the after life as a reward . Because the pleasure one gets from being aroused is a great thing I believe any man can agree with that even the Balles bantu misraq



Dr Zackovich

Did Jesus order or executed the death of one individual? the Answer is no. Plus, when some mob attempted to execute a woman by stoning because she was adulteress, Jesus said, The person who is without a sin among you should cast the first stone. Who would dare to throw the first stone?

In regard to Safiya, Let alone a human being with emotion and sense, even an animal wouldn't love and display affection to the people who killed their their kin and kith.

This is not true first mistake is the. Prophets uncle was not abdulmuttalib as u said but it was abu thalib Abu thalib was the father of imam Ali the cousin of the prophet had prophet Muhammed wanted to marry of abdulmuttalib it would have been. That the prophet wanted to marry his own aunt . And that is unacceptable in Islam and even in pre arabian culture
The story ur talking about is fakhita one of the daughters of abuthalib the sister of the imam . It’s true the that abuthalib said the noble goes with the noble and that was purely because Abu thalib wanted to see money and his nephew didn’t have much money back then. It had nothing to do with him being not noble he is the son of his own brother . What one should also know is that abuthalib was not a Muslim so the jahiliya of wealth and no wealth was stlll in them nonetheless the prophet loved his uncle abu thalib for he protected him in times of need

Dr Zackovich

Even the father of Khadijah bint Khuwaylid refused to marry off his father to mohammed despite he was 15 years younger than her? Dont tell me that, he refused because of age differences?

[Deqi-Arawit]

Tigrayan Brother Deqi Arr,

In other words, you lack an actual response, so you're deflecting and running; in other words, you concede defeat.
Which is fine, because I believe religion should not be debated, especially when certain people are arrogant and ignorant to the point that they think they already know it all (aka, You).
Old names and so on, are irrelevant. Cause, if we go back far enough, your ancestors weren't hagos, tewelde, afwerki, gebremehdin and so on.

Mini-Wuriyas!
If you are adamant that your religion is free of fault and other religion is falsified and corrupted as muslims do, be prepared to be scrutinized, analyzed.

In regard to your notion that I am conceding defeat? You are trying to find your comfort zone on, "God knows every thing and he is the one who decides". If you believe on that, you wouldn't°t need some so called scholars to translate a book if you are equipped with some modest intelligence. In regard to my names. it is connected to my language and identity.

Hagos =Happiness
Tewelde = He is born
Afwerki = Golden mouth

Plus, it is only the low IQ Africa Negro Like yourself who change their names and identity once they embrace islam. people of Indonesia, Malaysia and Turkey never change their identity because of their religion affiliation.

[Zack]

It was due to wealth status which in pre Islamic Arabia was a thing really . But not because one is less noble for it was always know among the Arabs that prophet Muhammed Ibn Abdullah. Was known to he honest and trustworthy even the fact that many anti Islam people spread and say that prophet marry so many woman was due to lust. That is not the case but it was to create alliances among the various Arabian tribes and many of them were widows. The prophet didn’t marry another woman besides khadija when she was alive he only re married when she passed away. As for the names u don’t have to change ur name if u convert to Islam u can there is an optionial choice but it is not a sunnah . Unless ur name Has a real anti or shirki connotation only then it is advised to change ur name.

But deqi ur not totallly honest ur self don’t orthodox Christian’s in Ethiopia and Eritrea also have church names or babtized name like Micheal or sellasie . Having Islamic names is also like this nothing wrong with that. Most Islamic names are that of the prophets also shared in judea Christian prophets but also sahaba names or angle names such as gibriel or Omar sahaba name or Ali or Hussien hassan and Osman etc.

We Somalis also have our Somali names such as shirwa geedi geele. Jamac Diriye handule gamadid geesole awale samewade hadrawi samatar saruur xigaal xoore hanfade etc etc these names come back in Somali society allot. Especially in Djibouti and the Somali kilil and the somaliland and puntland regions

Dr Zackovich

[Deqi-Arawit]

It was due to wealth status which in pre Islamic Arabia was a thing really . But not because one is less noble for it was always know among the Arabs that prophet Muhammed Ibn Abdullah. Was known to he honest and trustworthy even the fact that many anti Islam people spread and say that prophet marry so many woman was due to lust. That is not the case but it was to create alliances among the various Arabian tribes and many of them were widows. The prophet didn’t marry another woman besides khadija when she was alive he only re married when she passed away. As for the names u don’t have to change ur name if u convert to Islam u can there is an optionial choice but it is not a sunnah . Unless ur name Has a real anti or shirki connotation only then it is advised to change ur name.

But deqi ur not totallly honest ur self don’t orthodox Christian’s in Ethiopia and Eritrea also have church names or babtized name like Micheal or sellasie . Having Islamic names is also like this nothing wrong with that. Most Islamic names are that of the prophets also shared in judea Christian prophets but also sahaba names or angle names such as gibriel or Omar sahaba name or Ali or Hussien hassan and Osman etc.

We Somalis also have our Somali names such as shirwa geedi geele. Jamac Diriye handule gamadid geesole awale samewade hadrawi samatar saruur xigaal xoore hanfade etc etc these names come back in Somali society allot. Especially in Djibouti and the Somali kilil and the somaliland and puntland regions

Dr Zackovich

Brother Zackovich.
Are you telling me that accepting two sisters from the governor of Egypt and having one of them as his as concubine is a way to create an alliances with the Arab tribes? Mohammed sexual prowess and his inability to keep his sexual urge in line is well known secret among his followers. He was a Duracell bunny.

First of all, the rule stipulated that mohammed or the caliph get 1/5 of the war booty [Ghanima] in any conflict between the muslims and the non muslims. Women of the vanquished army were distributed among the muslim warriors and mohammed got the best and most beautiful women. Here are the women who were victim of this practice and who became concubine of the prophet.

Rayhana bint Zayd ibn Amr
Mariyah bint Shamoon from Egypt (gift from the Egyptian governor)
Al-Jariya
Tukana al-Quraziya ( a jewish woman from the the Quraziya tribe)

Any way, in regard to names. It is true that there are a bunch of low IQ Eritreans who baptize their children with any random name they find in the Bible or western names which is stupid. Then, you have veteran fighters because of communism baptize their children like Kalashnikov, Lenin, Mao, But Generally speaking, given we have our own way of addressing the lord which is totally unique in the entire world, we can say comfortably say, we are not disconnected with our identity.