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Macron says France will not apologize to Algeria for colonization

French President Emmanuel Macron once again says he will not "ask forgiveness" from Algeria for French colonization but hopes to continue working toward reconciliation with his Algerian counterpart Abdelmajid Tebboune.

In an interview for Le Point magazine published late Wednesday, Macron refused to apologize for atrocities the French forces committed during 132 years of their presence in Colonial Algeria from 1830 to 1962.

"It's not up to me to ask forgiveness, that's not what this is about, that word would break all of our ties," he said. "The worst thing would be to decide: 'we apologize and each go our own way'."

"Work on memory and history isn't a settling of all accounts," Macron said.

The French leader also expressed hope that Tebboune "will be able to come to France in 2023", to return Macron's own trip to Algiers last year and continue their "unprecedented work of friendship."

Macron also told the Algerian writer Kamel Daoud during the interview that Algerians "have to be able to reach out your hand again and engage, which President Tebboune and I have been able to do."

The French president would instead participate in “symbolic acts” aimed at promoting reconciliation.
Back in January 2021, Macron refused to apologize to Algerians for the French colonization, saying that he would instead participate in “symbolic acts” aimed at promoting reconciliation.

The African nation was plundered by French colonizers for its rich natural resources. While French historians claim that only half a million civilians and combatants died during Algeria's bloody war for independence from 1954 to 1962, Algerian authorities say more than 1.5 million Algerians were killed by French forces during the period.

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During his presidential campaign in 2017, Macron, the first French president born after the colonial period, acknowledged that the colonization of Algeria was a "crime against humanity," going further than any of his predecessors.

In 2018, he also admitted that France had instigated a system that facilitated torture during the Algerian war. However, he refused to apologize for atrocities committed by French troops during the colonization of Algeria.

France has been a former colonizer in Africa, and, after years of outright colonization, still seeks control over countries spread over more than 12 territories and treats their people as second-class citizens.

France has carried out more than 50 military interventions in Africa since 1960, when many of its former colonies gained nominal independence.

[Union]

Algerian did not colonize any nation

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Algerian did not colonize any nation

Re-read my post early:

Do you know what North Africans looked like before Islam and Arabs invaded?

A young Berber boy. Photo Credit: TWR.org
There has been a fierce debate over the Africanness of Maghrebian North Africans as well as Libyans and Egyptians, for close to a century. One of the key drivers of this debate is their appearance.

On the eye, the majority of North Africans would pass for Middle Easterners or Mediterranean Europeans. On a map, these groups of people are also close.

However, this similarity in appearance is explainable.

The climate in that of the world has input into how they look. Second, because of their proximity to one another, the mixing of their peoples should be natural.

These two prima facie facts aside, there should, however, be little doubt what the peoples of North Africa looked like prior to invasions.

The 6th-century Roman poet, Corippus, in his book Johannis, describes the Berbers as “facies nigroque colorus” which means “faces of the black colour”.

In the same century, Procopius in Book IV of History of the Wars discussed the difference between the Vandals who had settled in North Africa and the Moors.

Procopius says that the Vandals were not “black-skinned like the Maurusioi (Moors)” .

The tribes he classified as Maurusioi are those now described as ancient Berbers. They include the Numidians, Masaesyle, Gaitules, Massyles, Masmuda and Mezikes.

Nasr Khusrau, an 11th-century Iranian also described the Masmuda soldiers of the Fatimid dynasty as “black Africans”.

But it would take more to convince some of the Africanness of North Africans. Arab and by extension, the Islamic invasion of North Africa, was from around the 6th-century but after Christianity had permeated the region for half a millennium.

Perhaps, the criteria that is sought is the same one given to us by our studies of ancient Egypt.

Through Egyptology, we have come to understand that prior to the invasions of North Africa by the Greeks, the Romans, the Arabs and the Ottomans, there was a civilisation in the place we presently call Egypt.

Ancient Egypt is important to some Pan-Africanists because its civilisation represents an example of the zenith of an African people’s unaided capacity.

This insistence on purity may be radical but not without justification. Africans have been told in the recent past that they had no history to be learned “but the history Europeans in Africa”.

On the back of this, it is necessary to identify for the purposes of education and constructing a Pan-African narrative, some groups of people who lived in the north of Africa apart from the Egyptians and before foreigners significantly changed their ways of life.

We can take two groups of people for instance.

The first is the Nubians. They were located around modern-day northern Sudan and southern Egypt.

At the height of their civilisation around the 5th century BC, the Nubians developed their unique language, art, architecture, agriculture, politics among others.

Although they learned a lot from Egypt and the East Sudanic kingdoms, the Nubians were characteristically “African” as the influence from outside was very minimal.

The Berber are also another group that is indigenous to North Africa. Instead of being an identifiable group, Berber are a collection of peoples from around modern Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco and Mauritania.

The people’s actual name is the Amazigh but were called Berber by the Romans. Berber is the root of “barbarians”.

They were mostly nomadic people with very few having settled cultures. However, some historians put their existence in North Africa at around 3000 B.C.

The takeaway from identifying these groups of people is that they are still in present-day North Africa.

Perhaps, the idea of Africanness goes beyond identifying ethnic groups. It may be a willingness of people to be part of continental goals and values. But even if that is the case, there is too much affinity between sub-Sahara and the north for the people to focus on their differences.

[Union]

I think you are referring to the population of north Africa pre Alexander the great's invasion. Well, there is no evidence black people existed in all northern parts except Egypt which was known as lower Ethiopia.

[tarik]

I think you are referring to the population of north Africa pre Alexander the great's invasion. Well, there is no evidence black people existed in all northern parts except Egypt which was known as lower Ethiopia.

It's better 2 show u than explain 2 u. Blacks were & r still in north africa, but they r purpously being killed or destroyed by z colonizers pink ppl of algeria mainly called z Berbers aka Amazigh, they r nothing but white aka pink ppl aka invaders of Black north africa. Knowledge is power.