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[Noble Amhara]

Throughout history, there were many individuals who became leaders in an instant and effect changes some for good some for bad. I will give you the opportunity to goole them for yourself. However, I like to remind you some of our leaders who came to lead in an instance without first building their personality in public. The most influential was Mengistu Hailemariam. Zemene Kasse is another one who came to lead the most effective and feared Fano when Woyanes were chasing ENDF in a track speed all the way to Debrebirhan. Fano was leaderless before Zemene stepped up to guide it. His effectiveness scared the shiiit out of PP, they tricked him in to sitting with them for a negotiation and kidnapped him.

And now, 80 to 90 % of the country is not under the control of SATAN PP, so what are we afraid of by losing this tribalist evil government. Even Addis Ababa is the most insecured place for its citizens by any standards. Does any one think there is rule of law in the country where journalists, activist, and 80+ year old senior citizens are jailed without court order? In a country judges openly crave for having their own army to enforce their rullings because the current so called "police" is above the law and ignoring court's rullings, threatening judges and committing so many kidnappings itself. Isn't it the PM telling parliament to never ask him what and where he gets his budgets for his pet projects. Is "non of your business " his phrase to parliament multiple times? Are we short memory as they label us?

Leaders are born instantly

Give me examples!

Leaders are born instantly when there is chaos and problems. Let alone the collection of ignorants and satans of PP, even educated and good leaders are replaceable by better ones.
There are millions of ethiopians who are capable of leading Ethiopia better than tribalist Woyanes and their offspring PP.

Btw, whether one believes it or not, Ethiopia is a failed state. And it is failed by its current ignorant and childish armed rulers. PP is not only incapable of leading, but it is a curse on that land. No-Government is much better than what we have right now in n Ethiopia.

How do you do that & what do you replace PP with? What is the alternative if they steps down today?

I will repeat what I said before: organize, organize, organize!
Instead of spontaneous protests here and there whenever something happens, an organized mass movement is needed, synchronized among dissatisfied regions. Politics starts at local level. People in various regions could create a communication network and pressure & reject their local leaders at the same time & with the same message. And that will eventually turn to a national movement. PP will then be forced to straighten up itself or fall into dust bin at the upcoming election. I don’t advocate violence under any circumstances.

ብልጽግና የሚባል ፓርቲ ካልፈረሰ ኢትዮጵያ ሰላም አታገኝም !

[Right]

So, why don’t you go and throw a stone yourself?

You sound like you agreed with the idea of resisting the abuse of power by throwing a stone. That is a good start. If I consider going back to my country to throw a stone is a technicality. If needed I will be happy to lend my hand but I don’t think that will be necessary for 120 million souls. The point here is let us stop being a defender of the mercenaries.

[Right]

Noble,
Zemene is a hero so is other FANO leaders. You exposed yourself who you are. You are wasting your time pretending to be a NA. You are not.
There is only one FANO for Ethiopia.

[Fiyameta]

[Selam/]

ሰው ጥራ ቢሉት… ካልጠፋ ሰው የመንደር መሪና የትዕቢተኛ ፲ አለቃ ስም ትጠራለህ? አስተሳሰብህ አሁንም መፈንቅለ መንግስት ውስጥ መሆኑ ደግሞ ያሳፍራል።

“ባሪያ በነገሰ ጊዜ መሬት ትናወጣለች” የሚለውን የምሳሌ ፴፥፪፪ ብሂል ያስፈፀመው ጉማሬው ፲ አለቃ መንግስቱ ነው። አሁን ላለንበት ችግርም መንስኤው እሱ ነው። ተስፋህን ቁረጥ፣ እንደዛ አይነት በአፈሙዝ ስልጣን ላይ የሚቆናጠጥ መሪ ከዚህ በኋላ ኢትዮዽያ ውስጥ አይኖርም።

Throughout history, there were many individuals who became leaders in an instant and effect changes some for good some for bad. I will give you the opportunity to goole them for yourself. However, I like to remind you some of our leaders who came to lead in an instance without first building their personality in public. The most influential was Mengistu Hailemariam. Zemene Kasse is another one who came to lead the most effective and feared Fano when Woyanes were chasing ENDF in a track speed all the way to Debrebirhan. Fano was leaderless before Zemene stepped up to guide it. His effectiveness scared the shiiit out of PP, they tricked him in to sitting with them for a negotiation and kidnapped him.

And now, 80 to 90 % of the country is not under the control of SATAN PP, so what are we afraid of by losing this tribalist evil government. Even Addis Ababa is the most insecured place for its citizens by any standards. Does any one think there is rule of law in the country where journalists, activist, and 80+ year old senior citizens are jailed without court order? In a country judges openly crave for having their own army to enforce their rullings because the current so called "police" is above the law and ignoring court's rullings, threatening judges and committing so many kidnappings itself. Isn't it the PM telling parliament to never ask him what and where he gets his budgets for his pet projects. Is "non of your business " his phrase to parliament multiple times? Are we short memory as they label us?

Leaders are born instantly

Give me examples!

Leaders are born instantly when there is chaos and problems. Let alone the collection of ignorants and satans of PP, even educated and good leaders are replaceable by better ones.
There are millions of ethiopians who are capable of leading Ethiopia better than tribalist Woyanes and their offspring PP.

Btw, whether one believes it or not, Ethiopia is a failed state. And it is failed by its current ignorant and childish armed rulers. PP is not only incapable of leading, but it is a curse on that land. No-Government is much better than what we have right now in n Ethiopia.

How do you do that & what do you replace PP with? What is the alternative if they steps down today?

I will repeat what I said before: organize, organize, organize!
Instead of spontaneous protests here and there whenever something happens, an organized mass movement is needed, synchronized among dissatisfied regions. Politics starts at local level. People in various regions could create a communication network and pressure & reject their local leaders at the same time & with the same message. And that will eventually turn to a national movement. PP will then be forced to straighten up itself or fall into dust bin at the upcoming election. I don’t advocate violence under any circumstances.

ብልጽግና የሚባል ፓርቲ ካልፈረሰ ኢትዮጵያ ሰላም አታገኝም !

[Selam/]

I don’t think that will be necessary for 120 million souls.

So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing.

So, why don’t you go and throw a stone yourself?

You sound like you agreed with the idea of resisting the abuse of power by throwing a stone. That is a good start. If I consider going back to my country to throw a stone is a technicality. If needed I will be happy to lend my hand but I don’t think that will be necessary for 120 million souls. The point here is let us stop being a defender of the mercenaries.

[union]

Bingo brother,
Nobel is no Amara. I have exposed him many times before. He hates Zemene to his bones

Noble,
Zemene is a hero so is other FANO leaders. You exposed yourself who you are. You are wasting your time pretending to be a NA. You are not.
There is only one FANO for Ethiopia.

[Right]

[So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing./quote]

You seems to like the word “violence” designated to the opposition. The one who is violent is the government of Ethiopia who is allowing a massacre to happen in its vicinity. You want to stop us voicing so that the 7th king can finish off the genocide.
A cadre who makes a living out of the misery of Ethiopians has no right to prescribe mode of a struggle.
Try to defend the indefensible. We will be there for the voiceless no matter how you try to stop us.

[Noble Amhara]

Noble,
Zemene is a hero so is other FANO leaders. You exposed yourself who you are. You are wasting your time pretending to be a NA. You are not.
There is only one FANO for Ethiopia.

aga,me

you dont know zemene kassie role in fano

you better shut up you are looking at things from external view

I have the internal view the insider view I know what you fail to know

because you and union are outsiders

stick too addis ababa menga politika

[Selam/]

Hmm you call Ethiopians “voiceless”. They ousted woyane peacefully despite the repeated atrocities. Likewise, Adanech will be ousted by popular uprising of Addis residents & ANDP will go to a dust bin by Amharas. Look at this:

[So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing./quote]

You seems to like the word “violence” designated to the opposition. The one who is violent is the government of Ethiopia who is allowing a massacre to happen in its vicinity. You want to stop us voicing so that the 7th king can finish off the genocide.
A cadre who makes a living out of the misery of Ethiopians has no right to prescribe mode of a struggle.
Try to defend the indefensible. We will be there for the voiceless no matter how you try to stop us.

[Horus]

Selam,
እኛ አናውቀውም እንጂ ብዙ ነገር እየተካሄደ ይመስለኛል። ትላንት ፌደራል ፖሊስን ሌሎች (የጸጥታ ድርጅቶች) ተሰብስበው ያሉት ነገር አለ። አንድ ያሉት ነገር የጸረ ሙስናውን ለማደናቀፍ ይላል። ግን አቢይ አንደኛ ረድፍ ደጋፊዎቹን የክልል ፕሬዚዳንቶችና ምክትሎች፣ የከተማ ከንቲባዎችና ምክትሎች ከሙስና ምርመራ ነጻ ናቸው የሚል ትዕዛዝ ሰጠ ። The Dictator's Handbook የሚባለው መጽሃፍ ኤግዛግትሊ ይህን ይላል ። አንድን አምባገነን መሪ መጨረሻ ላይ ሊጥሉት የሚችሉት ወይም የሚወድቀው አንደኛ ረድፍ ደጋፊዎቹ ሲከዱት ነው ይላል። አቢይ የዛሬ ሳምንት ሌብነቱ ያለው ትላልቆቹ የመንግስት ሰዎች ውስጥ ነው ብሎ ሲያበቃ የሆነ ማስጠንቀቂያ ስለሰጡት ሃሳቡን ለወጠ ።

ፖሊስ አሁን በምስጢር የሚዘጋጅ የሚመራ ንቅናቄ አለ ብሎ ወጣቶች እያፈነ ነው ። አንደ ቺሌው አይነት the missing የሚባሉ እየበዙ ወጥተው የማይመለሱ ልጆች ስለበዙ ወላጆች ሚዲያ ላይ መውጣት ጀምረዋል ። ይህ እጅግ አደገኛ የላቲን አሜሪካ ዲክታተሮች ዘዴ ነው ። ትህነድ የሚጠቀምበት ስውር እስር ቤቶች በየቦታው እንዳሉ ሚዲያው እያጋለጠ ነው ።

በዚህ ውዥንብር ውስጥ የቱ የነሸኔ ስራ ነው? የቱ የራሱ ያቢይ ጸጥታ ስራ ነው? የቱ የህዝብ ንቅናቄ ነው? የሚለውን ለይተም መመልከቻ ግዜ ላይ ደርሰናል!!! ብቻ ነገር አለ!!!

[Selam/]

I will look for that information but የጸረ ሙስናውን ለማደናቀፍ ነው የሚለው ክስ ማደናበሪያ መሆኑ በጣም ግልፅ ነው።

Selam,
እኛ አናውቀውም እንጂ ብዙ ነገር እየተካሄደ ይመስለኛል። ትላንት ፌደራል ፖሊስን ሌሎች (የጸጥታ ድርጅቶች) ተሰብስበው ያሉት ነገር አለ። አንድ ያሉት ነገር የጸረ ሙስናውን ለማደናቀፍ ይላል። ግን አቢይ አንደኛ ረድፍ ደጋፊዎቹን የክልል ፕሬዚዳንቶችና ምክትሎች፣ የከተማ ከንቲባዎችና ምክትሎች ከሙስና ምርመራ ነጻ ናቸው የሚል ትዕዛዝ ሰጠ ። The Dictator's Handbook የሚባለው መጽሃፍ ኤግዛግትሊ ይህን ይላል ። አንድን አምባገነን መሪ መጨረሻ ላይ ሊጥሉት የሚችሉት ወይም የሚወድቀው አንደኛ ረድፍ ደጋፊዎቹ ሲከዱት ነው ይላል። አቢይ የዛሬ ሳምንት ሌብነቱ ያለው ትላልቆቹ የመንግስት ሰዎች ውስጥ ነው ብሎ ሲያበቃ የሆነ ማስጠንቀቂያ ስለሰጡት ሃሳቡን ለወጠ ።

ፖሊስ አሁን በምስጢር የሚዘጋጅ የሚመራ ንቅናቄ አለ ብሎ ወጣቶች እያፈነ ነው ። አንደ ቺሌው አይነት the missing የሚባሉ እየበዙ ወጥተው የማይመለሱ ልጆች ስለበዙ ወላጆች ሚዲያ ላይ መውጣት ጀምረዋል ። ይህ እጅግ አደገኛ የላቲን አሜሪካ ዲክታተሮች ዘዴ ነው ። ትህነድ የሚጠቀምበት ስውር እስር ቤቶች በየቦታው እንዳሉ ሚዲያው እያጋለጠ ነው ።

በዚህ ውዥንብር ውስጥ የቱ የነሸኔ ስራ ነው? የቱ የራሱ ያቢይ ጸጥታ ስራ ነው? የቱ የህዝብ ንቅናቄ ነው? የሚለውን ለይተም መመልከቻ ግዜ ላይ ደርሰናል!!! ብቻ ነገር አለ!!!

[Educator]

I think you got all wrong. Woyane(TPLF) was not ousted peacefully. There was a violent movement by Qero and Fano which took the life of thousands of civilians and armed security personnel to achieve the change. There was also plenty of properties that got destroyed before woyane threw the white flag. The only problem with the movement was it got kidnapped by Lema and Gedu. It was supposed to be a revolution that wiped out every woyane in every form(OPDO and Gedu's Amhara party). If that mistake was not done, we would have been in a much better position now.

And the current government is trying to sustain itself by violent means, killing, kidnapping and robbing banks and individual properties. So your claim of no violent action to remove this criminal collection of PP is absurd. If you want to condem violence, then condem the state terrorism first.

Hmm you call Ethiopians “voiceless”. They ousted woyane peacefully despite the repeated atrocities. Likewise, Adanech will be ousted by popular uprising of Addis residents & ANDP will go to a dust bin by Amharas. Look at this:

[So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing./quote]

You seems to like the word “violence” designated to the opposition. The one who is violent is the government of Ethiopia who is allowing a massacre to happen in its vicinity. You want to stop us voicing so that the 7th king can finish off the genocide.
A cadre who makes a living out of the misery of Ethiopians has no right to prescribe mode of a struggle.
Try to defend the indefensible. We will be there for the voiceless no matter how you try to stop us.

[Right]

Noble,
Leave Zemene alone. Incarcerated and suffering in the hands of the 7th king. And the 7th king arrest and kill those Ethiopian true heroes. So we don’t need your divisive lecture. The free Zemene Kase movement is unstoppable.
You can start a keep Zemene Kase in prison movement on your own perils.
We know your intentions: Shewa vs Gojjam vs Wello va Gonder Amahara politics.
Yesterday it was “Wello doesn’t know how to fight” today it is about Fano.
Change your name to Noble Tigrie.

[Selam/]

You’re conflicting yourself. Expecting a leader to be born overnight will yield the same result as the one that you are currently complaining about. A violent & unorganized change will reinforce the same vicious cycle that we are in today. Moreover, the isolated protest of various social groups & ethnicities that we are seeing today in Amhara and Gurage regions is useless. It will come & go without any fundamental effect. Synchronized grass-root movement of two or more regions is the only solution to get out of this quagmire. In that process, leaders will emerge & get recognition from ground up.

I think you got all wrong. Woyane(TPLF) was not ousted peacefully. There was a violent movement by Qero and Fano which took the life of thousands of civilians and armed security personnel to achieve the change. There was also plenty of properties that got destroyed before woyane threw the white flag. The only problem with the movement was it got kidnapped by Lema and Gedu. It was supposed to be a revolution that wiped out every woyane in every form(OPDO and Gedu's Amhara party). If that mistake was not done, we would have been in a much better position now.

And the current government is trying to sustain itself by violent means, killing, kidnapping and robbing banks and individual properties. So your claim of no violent action to remove this criminal collection of PP is absurd. If you want to condem violence, then condem the state terrorism first.

Hmm you call Ethiopians “voiceless”. They ousted woyane peacefully despite the repeated atrocities. Likewise, Adanech will be ousted by popular uprising of Addis residents & ANDP will go to a dust bin by Amharas. Look at this:

[So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing./quote]

You seems to like the word “violence” designated to the opposition. The one who is violent is the government of Ethiopia who is allowing a massacre to happen in its vicinity. You want to stop us voicing so that the 7th king can finish off the genocide.
A cadre who makes a living out of the misery of Ethiopians has no right to prescribe mode of a struggle.
Try to defend the indefensible. We will be there for the voiceless no matter how you try to stop us.

[Noble Amhara]

Fikeregna Wolloyes were the last to join Fano and think about War that is why TPLF succeeded in Wolo not Gondar. The junta savage could only celebrate in un-armed wollo not Gondar

Its true Zemene was never in Wollo while the war was raging he was not on the frontlines he was in Gojjam and we trusted him to rule and organize the Fanos there

There is no rivalry we will turn every group in Amhara into Gondar

Each Fano leader has to represent their area in Amhara.

Amhara is very big someone has to lead each part of amhara to self-defense

Lets see if Zemene will stand with Shoua Dera once he is freed

Noble,
Leave Zemene alone. Incarcerated and suffering in the hands of the 7th king. And the 7th king arrest and kill those Ethiopian true heroes. So we don’t need your divisive lecture. The free Zemene Kase movement is unstoppable.
You can start a keep Zemene Kase in prison movement on your own perils.
We know your intentions: Shewa vs Gojjam vs Wello va Gonder Amahara politics.
Yesterday it was “Wello doesn’t know how to fight” today it is about Fano.
Change your name to Noble Tigrie.

[Right]

Noble,
That is it. We are on the same page. First, lets us work together for the freedom of all political prisoners including Zemene Kase and Tadiwos Tantu. The rest the locals will sort them out.
The North is in deep [deleted]. I am not familiar with the area but crisis in Welkayit, Raya, Humera, Sudan border and Badme deliberately left unresolved. They need all the unity in the world to resolve it. So be noble to help them.

[Educator]

The conflict would be to believe in fairy tale while beheading, cannibalism, burning humans alive, slaughtering women and children, and condoning rape in parliament is the norm. Please get real and get out of your dream. If you think ISIS will vacate Minilik place with your keyboard criticism, then God be with you as I have no words for you. Maybe this guy will brighten your day:

You’re conflicting yourself. Expecting a leader to be born overnight will yield the same result as the one that you are currently complaining about. A violent & unorganized change will reinforce the same vicious cycle that we are in today. Moreover, the isolated protest of various social groups & ethnicities that we are seeing today in Amhara and Gurage regions is useless. It will come & go without any fundamental effect. Synchronized grass-root movement of two or more regions is the only solution to get out of this quagmire. In that process, leaders will emerge & get recognition from ground up.

I think you got all wrong. Woyane(TPLF) was not ousted peacefully. There was a violent movement by Qero and Fano which took the life of thousands of civilians and armed security personnel to achieve the change. There was also plenty of properties that got destroyed before woyane threw the white flag. The only problem with the movement was it got kidnapped by Lema and Gedu. It was supposed to be a revolution that wiped out every woyane in every form(OPDO and Gedu's Amhara party). If that mistake was not done, we would have been in a much better position now.

And the current government is trying to sustain itself by violent means, killing, kidnapping and robbing banks and individual properties. So your claim of no violent action to remove this criminal collection of PP is absurd. If you want to condem violence, then condem the state terrorism first.

Hmm you call Ethiopians “voiceless”. They ousted woyane peacefully despite the repeated atrocities. Likewise, Adanech will be ousted by popular uprising of Addis residents & ANDP will go to a dust bin by Amharas. Look at this:

[So is your violence rant not needed. Let the 120 million people decide what’s best for them: peaceful protest, violence or do nothing./quote]

You seems to like the word “violence” designated to the opposition. The one who is violent is the government of Ethiopia who is allowing a massacre to happen in its vicinity. You want to stop us voicing so that the 7th king can finish off the genocide.
A cadre who makes a living out of the misery of Ethiopians has no right to prescribe mode of a struggle.
Try to defend the indefensible. We will be there for the voiceless no matter how you try to stop us.

[Fiyameta]

[Noble Amhara]

zemene should be freed he is a great icon for Amhara people in this dark age under የሀገር መፍረስ መሪ Abi Ahmed, Ruling by Collapsing the State, Ruling by promoting Chaos and Anarchy and self made Hero and Savior of the state

zemene kassie is a great speaker and organizer of patriotism he has killed no one thus State Collapse Leader Abi arrestted him only criminals are free in Ethiopia led by Jimman Galla

Noble,
That is it. We are on the same page. First, lets us work together for the freedom of all political prisoners including Zemene Kase and Tadiwos Tantu. The rest the locals will sort them out.
The North is in deep [deleted]. I am not familiar with the area but crisis in Welkayit, Raya, Humera, Sudan border and Badme deliberately left unresolved. They need all the unity in the world to resolve it. So be noble to help them.