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[Horus]

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

[Wedi]

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

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[Selam/]

These are localities outside the 11 sub-cities of Addis Ababa, which is currently the principal city that’s consistently encroaching into the satellite cities. As you may recall, Woyane’s attempt to swallow the satellite cities into one metropolitan Addis Ababa failed & resulted in their demise.

On the surface, PP’s attempt to control urban sprawl by developing and connecting the satellite cities into one appears to be a smart move in that it allows the spatial foot print of Addis to expand into Oromia without voiding their jurisdictions. The flip side is that these satellite cities could grow independently and choke the growth of the principal city, forcing millions to leave the metropole altogether.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

[Misraq]

These are localities outside the 11 sub-cities of Addis Ababa, which is currently the principal city that’s consistently encroaching into the satellite cities. As you may recall, Woyane’s attempt to swallow the satellite cities into one metropolitan Addis Ababa failed & resulted in their demise.

On the surface, PP’s attempt to control urban sprawl by developing and connecting the satellite cities into one appears to be a smart move in that it allows the spatial foot print of Addis to expand into Oromia without voiding their jurisdictions. The flip side is that these satellite cities could grow independently and choke the growth of the principal city, forcing millions to leave the metropole altogether.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Smart move? አይ አቶ ሰላም ዲቃላው። people like you are opportunists. They change their jersey in a blink of an eye and chose to relate, support & advocate for the side they think will bring them better return

From your own confession, you have told us you are a mix of Gurage, Oromo and Amhara. So now you are on Oromuma jersey. If Gurage gets into power you will wear the Zerma jersey. If Amhara is in power you will be on Fano jersey.

ዲቃላስ People like you are more dangerous and disgusting than Debretsion, Abiy, jawar, and Jamal Mero combined. ዘር እንደልጓም ይስባል እንደሚባለው ዘር እየሳበህ ተቸግረሀል።

FYI, this move about Sheger is what Shimeles talks about 4 years ago in a secret meeting on the plan to make Addis Ababa irrelevant because it is too huge to make it Oromo in a few years.

[Selam/]

ድውይ - እኔ እንዳንተ በሬ ወለደ እያልኩ ህዝብን ከህዝብ ለማጋጨት ለሊት ከቀን የምንፈራገጥ ደረቅ ጎጠኛ አይደለሁም። ግግም ያልክ እንጭጭ ስለሆንክ የሰላም ከፍ ያለ ሰማያዊ አስተሳሰብ ሊገባህ አይችልም። እንደ እንሰሳ ቅጥን ጥብብ ያለ የአንድ ዘር ግንድ ብቻ ካለህ አዝንልሃለሁ። አስተሳሰብህ የጫጨው ለዚያ ነዋ። እስኪ የሚረዳህ ከሆነ ከአንድ ኦሮሞ ወይንም ጉራጌ ጋር ትንሽ ጊዜ አሳልፍ፣ ይኸ ድርቅ ምንችክ ያለው ጠባብነትህ የሰላምን ቅንጣት ብርሃን ያገኝና ጉራጌ፣ አማራ፣ ትግሬ፣ ኦሮሞ ወንድሜ ነው ማለት ትጀምር ይሆናል። እስከዛው አዛባ ዘረኛ ሆነህ ኖረህ፣ አዛባ ዘረኛ ሆነህ ትሞታለህ። እበት!

These are localities outside the 11 sub-cities of Addis Ababa, which is currently the principal city that’s consistently encroaching into the satellite cities. As you may recall, Woyane’s attempt to swallow the satellite cities into one metropolitan Addis Ababa failed & resulted in their demise.

On the surface, PP’s attempt to control urban sprawl by developing and connecting the satellite cities into one appears to be a smart move in that it allows the spatial foot print of Addis to expand into Oromia without voiding their jurisdictions. The flip side is that these satellite cities could grow independently and choke the growth of the principal city, forcing millions to leave the metropole altogether.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Smart move? አይ አቶ ሰላም ዲቃላው። people like you are opportunists. They change their jersey in a blink of an eye and chose to relate, support & advocate for the side they think will bring them better return

From your own confession, you have told us you are a mix of Gurage, Oromo and Amhara. So now you are on Oromuma jersey. If Gurage gets into power you will wear the Zerma jersey. If Amhara is in power you will be on Fano jersey.

ዲቃላስ People like you are more dangerous and disgusting than Debretsion, Abiy, jawar, and Jamal Mero combined. ዘር እንደልጓም ይስባል እንደሚባለው ዘር እየሳበህ ተቸግረሀል።

FYI, this move about Sheger is what Shimeles talks about 4 years ago in a secret meeting on the plan to make Addis Ababa irrelevant because it is too huge to make it Oromo in a few years.

[Eripoblikan]

So now you are on Oromuma jersey. If Gurage gets into power you will wear the Zerma jersey. If Amhara is in power you will be on Fano jersey.

Yep! Typical cadre seesaw. They change their minds everytime the paying bosses do.

Sad but true!

[Yimer]

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

[Selam/]

…built by displacing Oromo farmers?

Really? Dude, you’re opening a can of worms. Other ethnic groups were displaced from Addis by Oromos before that. And all urban areas in the world displace rural areas, be it Mekelle, Bahir Dar, Nazareth or Harar. It’s the nature of cities. So, don’t try to pull ethnic card here.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

[DefendTheTruth]

…built by displacing Oromo farmers?

Really? Dude, you’re opening a can of worms. Other ethnic groups were displaced from Addis by Oromos before that. And all urban areas in the world displace rural areas, be it Mekelle, Bahir Dar, Nazareth or Harar. It’s the nature of cities. So, don’t try to pull ethnic card here.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

I didn't want to involve in this discussion, which the opener wanted to use to saw more discord between the peoples of Ethiopia.

Addis can grow as much as it wants to grow, but that should be without chewing those it finds on the way of its growth.

The right term to use here is not displacing but evicting. The poor, be it from Amhara, Oromo, Guraghe, Tigre, Sidama, Wolayita, Gamo or anyone else was forcefully evicted to make a space for those who have the means, including power. In this regard it is not " It’s the nature of cities", unless you are prepared to condone injustice on certain part of the Ethiopian citizens.

That has been vividly written in the history of the growth of Addis Ababa. No one can deny that now.

I can't comment about the reported merge of smaller towns around Addis for now, I have no furthere information on why it was needed and what purpose it is supposed to serve. The towns deserve to decide on their fates on their own, most importantly should be prepared that no more eviction of their respective residents may occur in the future.

[Selam/]

As far as I know, farmers around Addis either sold their properties or got compensated in kind or monetarily to be relocated. I am not aware of evictions aside from inner city & Chereka bet residents who were forcefully thrown out of their dwellings. Likewise, non-Oromo residents have been repeatedly evicted from rural and urban areas in Oromia regions.

Yes, cities will continue to grow & blur with suburbs whether you like it or not unless we quickly build an advance infrastructure and smart city and pack millions of people vertically like New York or Hong Kong. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon, so the five towns mentioned below will continue to be more urban than their surroundings and blur with Addis. That’s fact! Let alone Ethiopia, Chinese cities are still swallowing up swathes of farm land, which ironically feeds the cities.

I am not here trying to justify the growth of cities as right or wrong. I am just telling what’s happening on the ground in real time.

…built by displacing Oromo farmers?

Really? Dude, you’re opening a can of worms. Other ethnic groups were displaced from Addis by Oromos before that. And all urban areas in the world displace rural areas, be it Mekelle, Bahir Dar, Nazareth or Harar. It’s the nature of cities. So, don’t try to pull ethnic card here.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

I didn't want to involve in this discussion, which the opener wanted to use to saw more discord between the peoples of Ethiopia.

Addis can grow as much as it wants to grow, but that should be without chewing those it finds on the way of its growth.

The right term to use here is not displacing but evicting. The poor, be it from Amhara, Oromo, Guraghe, Tigre, Sidama, Wolayita, Gamo or anyone else was forcefully evicted to make a space for those who have the means, including power. In this regard it is not " It’s the nature of cities", unless you are prepared to condone injustice on certain part of the Ethiopian citizens.

That has been vividly written in the history of the growth of Addis Ababa. No one can deny that now.

I can't comment about the reported merge of smaller towns around Addis for now, I have no furthere information on why it was needed and what purpose it is supposed to serve. The towns deserve to decide on their fates on their own, most importantly should be prepared that no more eviction of their respective residents may occur in the future.

[DefendTheTruth]

Are you sure that they were compensated?

Buying and selling come into the discussion when the price was determined by the market. So, do you know, or are you sure, that the farmers sold their properties according to the market price?

As far as I know, farmers around Addis either sold their properties or got compensated in kind or monetarily to be relocated. I am not aware of evictions aside from inner city & Chereka bet residents who were forcefully thrown out of their dwellings. Likewise, non-Oromo residents have been repeatedly evicted from rural and urban areas in Oromia regions.

Yes, cities will continue to grow & blur with suburbs whether you like it or not unless we quickly build an advance infrastructure and smart city and pack millions of people vertically like New York or Hong Kong. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon, so the five towns mentioned below will continue to be more urban than their surroundings and blur with Addis. That’s fact! Let alone Ethiopia, Chinese cities are still swallowing up swathes of farm land, which ironically feeds the cities.

I am not here trying to justify the growth of cities as right or wrong. I am just telling what’s happening on the ground in real time.

…built by displacing Oromo farmers?

Really? Dude, you’re opening a can of worms. Other ethnic groups were displaced from Addis by Oromos before that. And all urban areas in the world displace rural areas, be it Mekelle, Bahir Dar, Nazareth or Harar. It’s the nature of cities. So, don’t try to pull ethnic card here.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

I didn't want to involve in this discussion, which the opener wanted to use to saw more discord between the peoples of Ethiopia.

Addis can grow as much as it wants to grow, but that should be without chewing those it finds on the way of its growth.

The right term to use here is not displacing but evicting. The poor, be it from Amhara, Oromo, Guraghe, Tigre, Sidama, Wolayita, Gamo or anyone else was forcefully evicted to make a space for those who have the means, including power. In this regard it is not " It’s the nature of cities", unless you are prepared to condone injustice on certain part of the Ethiopian citizens.

That has been vividly written in the history of the growth of Addis Ababa. No one can deny that now.

I can't comment about the reported merge of smaller towns around Addis for now, I have no furthere information on why it was needed and what purpose it is supposed to serve. The towns deserve to decide on their fates on their own, most importantly should be prepared that no more eviction of their respective residents may occur in the future.

[Horus]

DTT asks: "do you know, or are you sure, that the farmers sold their properties according to the market price?" አቶ ዲቲቲ ይህን ጥያቄ ለምን አጎትክን አባዱላን አትጠይቀውም? እሱ እኮ ነው መሬቶቹን የቸበቸው? በሺ የሚቆጠሩ ፌክ የመሬት ካርታዎች አትማ አትማ ካገር የጠፋችው ያንተው አክስት ሃቢባ ኡመር ነችኮ? 40 ሚሊዮን ባካውንቷ የገባላትኮ ያንተው ሌላ አክስት አዳነች አቤቤ ነችኮ ! ለምንድን ነው ሰላምን የምትጠይቀው?

እኔ ልንገርህ ለምን እነዚህ ባዲሳባ ዙሪያ ምደሮች 'ከተማ' የሚል ታፔላ የተለጠፈላቸው? የመሬት ዋጋ ለማሰወደና አዲሱ የኦሮሙማ ጎሳ ክሌፕቶክራሲ፣ ኦሊጋርኪና የደላላዎቹ መንግስት በምስኪኑ ያካባዊው 'ኦሮሞ' ስም እንደገና ህጋዊ የሰማይ ስባሪ የሚያክል የመሬት ዘረፋ ለማድረግ ነው ።

ይህቺ የከተማ ታፔላ የመሬት ጥያቄ ነው! የገንዘብና የዘረፋ ጥያቄ ነው ። አቢይ አህመድ ከወዲሁ የከተማ መሬት እንዲሸጥን የግል ንብረት እንዲሆን ሃስብ እያቀረበ ነው ።

ሌላው ሊሆን የሚችለው ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ የኢንዱስትሪ ፓርኮች በመክፈት ይካባቢውን ህዝብ የፋብሪካ ሰራተኛ ለማድረግ የታሰበ ይመስለኛል ።

ይመር ለምትባል ደንቆሮ፡
ዛሬ ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ ያሉት ኦሮሞኛ ተናጋዊዎች ሁሉ ቅደመ አያቶቻቸው ሌላ ጎሳዎች ናቸው ። ገላን እና ያያ የሚባሉት ኦሮሞች ገላን እና ያዬ የሚባሉ የጥንት ጉራጌ ሕዝብ የነበሩ ናቸው ። ደጋግመን እንደምንለው ወደ ታሪክ መወረድ ከጀመርክ አሳ ጎርጓሪ ዘንዶ ያወጣል ይሆናል ።

[Misraq]

Yes OPDO cadres (Oromos) themselves were brokers and sellers for the landmarket. I sympathize the oromo farmers who were duped to sell their lands with a cheapest value to benefit these cadres and their tigre masters. What i hate about Oromos is that they like to portray this as an issue between addis residents (particularly amharas) vs poor oromo farmers. This is really disgusting and sick. They want to spill blood and feel good about themselves out of such conflicts between innocents.

As to the sell of the land, it is designed by TPLF and Orchesterated by non other than Abiy's OPDO itself and Aba Dulla Gemeda as horus put it. They convinced this farmers to sell their lands with dirt cheap price in which the farmers ended up using the money without any form of finiancial education for sustainability. They ended up being gaurds or zebegna to the buyers. You cannot correct wrongs by doing another wrong. Abiy's and Shimieles's including majority sick oromos desire to make addis irrelevant will backfire and again the poor will end up paying the price for that.

[Yimer]

… ዛሬ ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ ያሉት ኦሮሞኛ ተናጋዊዎች ሁሉ ቅደመ አያቶቻቸው ሌላ ጎሳዎች ናቸው ። ገላን እና ያያ የሚባሉት ኦሮሞች ገላን እና ያዬ የሚባሉ የጥንት ጉራጌ ሕዝብ የነበሩ ናቸው ። ደጋግመን እንደምንለው ወደ ታሪክ መወረድ ከጀመርክ አሳ ጎርጓሪ ዘንዶ ያወጣል ይሆናል ።

I love Gurage people, but this is teret teret.

[Selam/]

It’s widely known that farmers took advantage of the scarcity of land and voluntarily sold their properties to desperate individuals. The sad part is that those who purchased a plot of land directly from farmers got later evicted by The City Administration and Querroo fanatics. It’s your responsibility to verify the market value when you sell your property. But whether market rate or not, it’s the buyer that lost the most. With regards to compensation by the city administration, Horus gave you a good answer. City officials connected with land are generally a bunch of thieves. That was the case during Derg. It was then taken to a whole different level during Woyane & it’s now worse.

Are you sure that they were compensated?

Buying and selling come into the discussion when the price was determined by the market. So, do you know, or are you sure, that the farmers sold their properties according to the market price?

As far as I know, farmers around Addis either sold their properties or got compensated in kind or monetarily to be relocated. I am not aware of evictions aside from inner city & Chereka bet residents who were forcefully thrown out of their dwellings. Likewise, non-Oromo residents have been repeatedly evicted from rural and urban areas in Oromia regions.

Yes, cities will continue to grow & blur with suburbs whether you like it or not unless we quickly build an advance infrastructure and smart city and pack millions of people vertically like New York or Hong Kong. But that’s not going to happen anytime soon, so the five towns mentioned below will continue to be more urban than their surroundings and blur with Addis. That’s fact! Let alone Ethiopia, Chinese cities are still swallowing up swathes of farm land, which ironically feeds the cities.

I am not here trying to justify the growth of cities as right or wrong. I am just telling what’s happening on the ground in real time.

…built by displacing Oromo farmers?

Really? Dude, you’re opening a can of worms. Other ethnic groups were displaced from Addis by Oromos before that. And all urban areas in the world displace rural areas, be it Mekelle, Bahir Dar, Nazareth or Harar. It’s the nature of cities. So, don’t try to pull ethnic card here.

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

Terrorist Woyane Horus: don’t you know that Addis Ababa was built and expanded by displacing poor Oromo farmers? What is your problem in the Sheger name? Do you want them to call it Mekelle?

As a man from the Amhara region, I fully support Mayor Adanech and Abiy on that.

I didn't want to involve in this discussion, which the opener wanted to use to saw more discord between the peoples of Ethiopia.

Addis can grow as much as it wants to grow, but that should be without chewing those it finds on the way of its growth.

The right term to use here is not displacing but evicting. The poor, be it from Amhara, Oromo, Guraghe, Tigre, Sidama, Wolayita, Gamo or anyone else was forcefully evicted to make a space for those who have the means, including power. In this regard it is not " It’s the nature of cities", unless you are prepared to condone injustice on certain part of the Ethiopian citizens.

That has been vividly written in the history of the growth of Addis Ababa. No one can deny that now.

I can't comment about the reported merge of smaller towns around Addis for now, I have no furthere information on why it was needed and what purpose it is supposed to serve. The towns deserve to decide on their fates on their own, most importantly should be prepared that no more eviction of their respective residents may occur in the future.

[Horus]

… ዛሬ ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ ያሉት ኦሮሞኛ ተናጋዊዎች ሁሉ ቅደመ አያቶቻቸው ሌላ ጎሳዎች ናቸው ። ገላን እና ያያ የሚባሉት ኦሮሞች ገላን እና ያዬ የሚባሉ የጥንት ጉራጌ ሕዝብ የነበሩ ናቸው ። ደጋግመን እንደምንለው ወደ ታሪክ መወረድ ከጀመርክ አሳ ጎርጓሪ ዘንዶ ያወጣል ይሆናል ።

I love Gurage people, but this is teret teret.

I love Oromo people too. But what I am telling you is not teret teret! Check this out .....

"The History of Gelan (Prof. Tamirat Tadesse)
Taddesse Tamrat, Page 184. Church and State in Ethiopia (1270-1527)
Here is the quotation about the people Tekle Haymnot meets in South and South-west Shewa 1290s AD. Oromos appear in Shewa in fact in 1660s and 1670s. (300-350 years later)
“He (Tekle Haymanot) found the inhabitants of the country worshipping the devil at the foot of a kobo tree. (Kobo tree is a gulo fere tree). They were sitting there eating, drinking and amusing themselves in the fashion of Muslims. They fanned the fire with their hands and held hot flames in their mouths and chanted saying ‘O People of Gelan and Yey, see what your god Qorke can do!... And they brought for Qorke’ a daily present of two fat cows, five sheep, five goats, and twenty-one baskets white wheat bread. All these were eaten by the functionaries of the gods.”
And there a footnote that describes the possible location of Gelan and Yay. It was Mt. Wejej (present Wochocha or Menagesha)"

ልብ አድርግ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት እነዚህን ቅድመ ክርስትና አማኞች (በጉራጌኛ ሰንዳ ክርስትና ይሉት ነበር) ተክለ ሃይማኖት እንደ ሙስሊም ስይጣን የሚያመልኩት የሚሉዋቸው ኦርቶዶክስ ባለመሆናቸው እንጂ እስላሞች ስለነበሩ አይደለ። ግን ቀን መቁጠሪያ የጨረቃ ብርሃንም አምልኮዋቸው ውስጥ ነበር። ለዚይ ነው የይ ወይም ያኔ የሚለው ስም ያለው ። ያ ጨረቃ ማለት ነው ። አምላካቸው ግ ን እስከዛሬም ጉራጌ ባህል ያለው ጎርጌ ነው

ልብ በል 1290 ኣም ገና አምደ ጽዮን ሸዋን ወግቶ ዳሞትን ከማስገበሩ 30ና 40 አመት በፊት ነው ። ግራኝ መሃመድ ሸዋ ከመድረሱ 235 አመት በፊት ነው ። ኦሮሞች ሸዋ ከመድረሳቸው 350 አመት ወይም 400 አመት በፊት ነው ስለ የገላን ሕዝብ የጸሃይና የብርሃን አምልኮውን የሚያጧጡፈው!! ዛሬ መስቀል ለምን የጉራጌ በአል እንደ ሆነ ምልክቱን እየሰጥሁህ ነው ።

ወደ ፊት የጄኔቲክ ቴክኖሎጂ ኢትዮጵያ ሲጀመር ይህ የምለው ሁሉ በሳይንስ የሚረጋገጥ ነው ።

[sun]

ዛሬ የተቋቋመው አዲሱ ሸገር ከተማ ተብሎ የተሰየመው ከተማ (1) ሱሉልታ፣ (2) ቡራዩ፣ (3) ሰበታ። (4) ገላን እና (5) ኮዬ ፈቼ አንድ አድርጎ ባንድ ከንቲባ ያዋቀረ ከተማ ነው ። ምንድን ነው አላማው? ምን እስትራተጂክ ግብ እንዲያሟላ ነው የተመሰረተው? ሸገር ከተማ ካዲስ አበባ ጋር ምን አይነት መስተጋብር ይኖረዋል?

It is created because the train needs to keep moving even when the Mad Dogs keep barking!

[Yimer]

… ዛሬ ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ ያሉት ኦሮሞኛ ተናጋዊዎች ሁሉ ቅደመ አያቶቻቸው ሌላ ጎሳዎች ናቸው ። ገላን እና ያያ የሚባሉት ኦሮሞች ገላን እና ያዬ የሚባሉ የጥንት ጉራጌ ሕዝብ የነበሩ ናቸው ። ደጋግመን እንደምንለው ወደ ታሪክ መወረድ ከጀመርክ አሳ ጎርጓሪ ዘንዶ ያወጣል ይሆናል ።

I love Gurage people, but this is teret teret.

I love Oromo people too. But what I am telling you is not teret teret! Check this out .....

"The History of Gelan (Prof. Tamirat Tadesse)
Taddesse Tamrat, Page 184. Church and State in Ethiopia (1270-1527)
Here is the quotation about the people Tekle Haymnot meets in South and South-west Shewa 1290s AD. Oromos appear in Shewa in fact in 1660s and 1670s. (300-350 years later)
“He (Tekle Haymanot) found the inhabitants of the country worshipping the devil at the foot of a kobo tree. (Kobo tree is a gulo fere tree). They were sitting there eating, drinking and amusing themselves in the fashion of Muslims. They fanned the fire with their hands and held hot flames in their mouths and chanted saying ‘O People of Gelan and Yey, see what your god Qorke can do!... And they brought for Qorke’ a daily present of two fat cows, five sheep, five goats, and twenty-one baskets white wheat bread. All these were eaten by the functionaries of the gods.”
And there a footnote that describes the possible location of Gelan and Yay. It was Mt. Wejej (present Wochocha or Menagesha)"

ልብ አድርግ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት እነዚህን ቅድመ ክርስትና አማኞች (በጉራጌኛ ሰንዳ ክርስትና ይሉት ነበር) ተክለ ሃይማኖት እንደ ሙስሊም ስይጣን የሚያመልኩት የሚሉዋቸው ኦርቶዶክስ ባለመሆናቸው እንጂ እስላሞች ስለነበሩ አይደለ። ግን ቀን መቁጠሪያ የጨረቃ ብርሃንም አምልኮዋቸው ውስጥ ነበር። ለዚይ ነው የይ ወይም ያኔ የሚለው ስም ያለው ። ያ ጨረቃ ማለት ነው ። አምላካቸው ግ ን እስከዛሬም ጉራጌ ባህል ያለው ጎርጌ ነው

ልብ በል 1290 ኣም ገና አምደ ጽዮን ሸዋን ወግቶ ዳሞትን ከማስገበሩ 30ና 40 አመት በፊት ነው ። ግራኝ መሃመድ ሸዋ ከመድረሱ 235 አመት በፊት ነው ። ኦሮሞች ሸዋ ከመድረሳቸው 350 አመት ወይም 400 አመት በፊት ነው ስለ የገላን ሕዝብ የጸሃይና የብርሃን አምልኮውን የሚያጧጡፈው!! ዛሬ መስቀል ለምን የጉራጌ በአል እንደ ሆነ ምልክቱን እየሰጥሁህ ነው ።

ወደ ፊት የጄኔቲክ ቴክኖሎጂ ኢትዮጵያ ሲጀመር ይህ የምለው ሁሉ በሳይንስ የሚረጋገጥ ነው ።

Thanks for citing the book, but I don’t think this author has any credible sources other than what he heard from debteras. And, your quote doesn’t indicate that Oromos were not the original settlers in the area.

[Selam/]

Well, debteras were reading & writing manuscripts while illiterate animists were dancing around trees, offering sacrifices to ghosts. Far Mauro was also a debtera, who painstakingly documented the history of Berera.

… ዛሬ ባዲስ አበባ ዙሪያ ያሉት ኦሮሞኛ ተናጋዊዎች ሁሉ ቅደመ አያቶቻቸው ሌላ ጎሳዎች ናቸው ። ገላን እና ያያ የሚባሉት ኦሮሞች ገላን እና ያዬ የሚባሉ የጥንት ጉራጌ ሕዝብ የነበሩ ናቸው ። ደጋግመን እንደምንለው ወደ ታሪክ መወረድ ከጀመርክ አሳ ጎርጓሪ ዘንዶ ያወጣል ይሆናል ።

I love Gurage people, but this is teret teret.

I love Oromo people too. But what I am telling you is not teret teret! Check this out .....

"The History of Gelan (Prof. Tamirat Tadesse)
Taddesse Tamrat, Page 184. Church and State in Ethiopia (1270-1527)
Here is the quotation about the people Tekle Haymnot meets in South and South-west Shewa 1290s AD. Oromos appear in Shewa in fact in 1660s and 1670s. (300-350 years later)
“He (Tekle Haymanot) found the inhabitants of the country worshipping the devil at the foot of a kobo tree. (Kobo tree is a gulo fere tree). They were sitting there eating, drinking and amusing themselves in the fashion of Muslims. They fanned the fire with their hands and held hot flames in their mouths and chanted saying ‘O People of Gelan and Yey, see what your god Qorke can do!... And they brought for Qorke’ a daily present of two fat cows, five sheep, five goats, and twenty-one baskets white wheat bread. All these were eaten by the functionaries of the gods.”
And there a footnote that describes the possible location of Gelan and Yay. It was Mt. Wejej (present Wochocha or Menagesha)"

ልብ አድርግ አቡነ ተክለ ሃይማኖት እነዚህን ቅድመ ክርስትና አማኞች (በጉራጌኛ ሰንዳ ክርስትና ይሉት ነበር) ተክለ ሃይማኖት እንደ ሙስሊም ስይጣን የሚያመልኩት የሚሉዋቸው ኦርቶዶክስ ባለመሆናቸው እንጂ እስላሞች ስለነበሩ አይደለ። ግን ቀን መቁጠሪያ የጨረቃ ብርሃንም አምልኮዋቸው ውስጥ ነበር። ለዚይ ነው የይ ወይም ያኔ የሚለው ስም ያለው ። ያ ጨረቃ ማለት ነው ። አምላካቸው ግ ን እስከዛሬም ጉራጌ ባህል ያለው ጎርጌ ነው

ልብ በል 1290 ኣም ገና አምደ ጽዮን ሸዋን ወግቶ ዳሞትን ከማስገበሩ 30ና 40 አመት በፊት ነው ። ግራኝ መሃመድ ሸዋ ከመድረሱ 235 አመት በፊት ነው ። ኦሮሞች ሸዋ ከመድረሳቸው 350 አመት ወይም 400 አመት በፊት ነው ስለ የገላን ሕዝብ የጸሃይና የብርሃን አምልኮውን የሚያጧጡፈው!! ዛሬ መስቀል ለምን የጉራጌ በአል እንደ ሆነ ምልክቱን እየሰጥሁህ ነው ።

ወደ ፊት የጄኔቲክ ቴክኖሎጂ ኢትዮጵያ ሲጀመር ይህ የምለው ሁሉ በሳይንስ የሚረጋገጥ ነው ።

Thanks for citing the book, but I don’t think this author has any credible sources other than what he heard from debteras. And, your quote doesn’t indicate that Oromos were not the original settlers in the area.

[Horus]

Yimer,
ያው ስምክን ለወጥክ እንጂ እዚሁ የከረምክ የኦሮሞ ትርክት አማኝ ነህ ። እኔ በዙሪያዬ ያሉት ኦሮሞች የተጋባናቸው የጉራጌን ባህል ለዘላለል ያሉት ሁሉ የሚመቹኝ ህዝቦች ናቸው ። ነገር ግን ሰባት ቤት አያቶቻቸውን ሲቆጥሩ ማንነታቸው ስለሚያውቁ ነው በመላ ጨቦ ወሊሶ ፣ በመላ በቾ ገላን እስከ ዝዋይ ዱግዳ የጉራጌን መንፈስ በሄድክበት የምታገኘው ።

ለስንት ዝንተ ዘመን ባልቻ ሰፎ የሜልኮ ጉራጌ ክስታኔ ነው፤ አባ መላ የጨቦው ሃብቴ ጉራጌ ብንላችሁ አልሰም ባይ የኦሮሞ ኤሊት ዴስፐሬት ታሪክ ቀሚዎች ጻፋችሁ፣ ሰነፍ ሰሚዎችን ለግዜው አታለልችሁ ቀስ እያለ ታሪክ ብርሃን ሆነ ። እኔ ቢያንስ ላለፉት 15 አመትታ ስለ ገላንና ያያ ህዝብ ማንነት ገልጻለሁ። በቅርብ ደሞ ሳይንስ ያረጋግጠዋል ።

በዉሸት ታሪክ ላይ ማንነት መገንባት ኋላ ያሳፍራል ። አንድ ሕዝብ ስረ ግንዱን በጥናት ካላረጋገጠ እስክሚያረጋግጥ መታገስ ብቻ ነው። ግን የሆነ ተቀባይነት ለማግኘት መዋሸት ኋላ ላይ ሳይኮሎጂካል ዋጋ ያስከፍላል። የዉሸት ማነንት የዝቅተኘት ምልክት ይሆናል ።

በዚህ ዘመን ቴክኖሎጂ ማንኛውም የታሪክ አሻራ ተመርምሮ ይገኛል!