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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 16 Nov 2022, 09:30

Zack wrote:
16 Nov 2022, 04:33
Sadacha Macca wrote:
15 Nov 2022, 23:34
Zack wrote:
14 Nov 2022, 05:09
s o u find it oke to use an army against ur own people ur crazy
when the amhara used to chase u with their army u used to cry now u want to kill tigrayans people who are better and higher then u
Dr Zackovich

Tigrayan brother Zack,

For a so called Somali, even tho no one here believes that you're a Somali, you seem to be obsessed with the Tigrayans and their so called superiority.
A superior race or nation wouldn't have had leaders who got them in this horrible war and situation in the first place.
The Ethiopian military can operate anywhere within its country, not saying they should commit war crimes, but to say they can't be in Tigray is silly to say the least.
They will be there now and for a long time, so get used to it tigrayan brother Dr hagosovich.


Ur mad i have not made this topic i react to topics that are about the things that are trending the war with tigray is trending now
You want the Ethiopian millatary to be in tigray to kill be honest about this. why else would the army be there really, to deliver cookies. U have not made any sense. Tigrayans are our brothers in the Horn whom we have never had any conflict with as People. Thats why we supported them during their war with the amharas the same with their kebessa cousins.

Dr Zackovich
Tigrayan brother Zack,

Ah yes, anyone who disagrees with your extremist tigrayan nationalist narrative, must be "mad."
Once again, the Ethiopian military can be anywhere in its own country. The fact that anyone has to repeat this very obvious statement shows how intellectually challenged and deficient you are.
The TPLF had them stationed there for decades, and extremist tigrayan nationalists such as yourself never complained or objected.
They weren't "genocidal" back then, either.

Somalis don't border Tigray, don't have significant trade or history with them, etc, so your obsession with them and their so called superiority just further proves that you ain't Somali. You ain't siad Barre or any of his government officials who gave the TPLF and EPLF passports and military aid (small military aid at the most), so you didn't do anything.
They fought a government, an oppressive one, not the amhara. But you're too blinded by hatred to admit that Dr hagosovich.


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Zack » 16 Nov 2022, 10:07

Nonsense Siyad barre represents me and is the former Somali president and i am proud of his legacy , and i also liked how he supported the tigrayans and the eritrean. And got rid of the so called useless Somali abow as we called the gallas back then

There is no tigrayan narrative on my part i am just against injustice as u said u want the army there , there is a reason why u want the army there its to kill because u want to get even with the tegarus. What u mean we dont have trade tigray used our ports for decades we have trade and we share history and all of that just because one doesnt border an ethnic group doesnt mean they dont share [deleted]. The ignoble affars are the only one between us and the Tigrayans. Mengistu was amhara and so was haile sellasie so they fought amhara,. as amhara supported their kings and junta leaders as mengistu haile mariam.


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 16 Nov 2022, 10:31

Tigrayan brother Zack,

Siad Barres accomplishments and failures represent his government, and somalia, not Djibouti or Tigray your homeland, or individuals such as yourself who had nothing to do with what happened back then.
Siad Barre died a failure, on a toilet in Nigeria, who allegedly even gave up his Deen or religion, so it's safe to say he died a loser and if he indeed gave up his Deen, he'll be a loser in the hereafter too.
His meager assistance to eplf and TPLF wasn't enough to make a decisive difference although I'm sure it was appreciated. Look at how TPLF repaid that debt, it invaded and committed atrocities in Somalia. What great allies they are.

What significant trade relations does Tigray have with the Nation you claim falsely, Djibouti or even Somalia? None. What significant historical relations do they have with them? Little to none.
Share what history? That's a very vague statement. Elaborate. Siad barre giving them old rifles from 1942 and passports ain't "sharing history."

The army was there for decades and didn't commit genocide and they'll be there now and for a long time. It's their country, and their duty, whether you like it or not and whether you like about them or not. Simple..if they commit war crimes, they should be held accountable like anyone else, that's it.
Individuals who ruled the country aren't representative of Amara's as a whole, they represent themselves and their interests. Amara's weren't fully supportive of either of those governments hence why you had uprisings against both governments in significant parts of Amara lands, i.e. gojjam, parts of shawa, wollo, etc.

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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Zack » 16 Nov 2022, 11:30

Tigrayan bussinesmen use our ports for almost decades if that is not Bussiness i dont know what is
The Ethiopian govermnet invaded to fight the terrorists the same Ethiopia is still in Somalia what makes AbdulaHI yusufs govt different then HSM . Makes no sense Ethiopia didnt invade to kill somalis but to fight alshabaab.

President Siyad bare was the greatest Somali president and he took care of the Ethiopians Amhara and galla alike
His support of the EPLF and TPLF was good it was a good investment the EPLF eventually ended up supporting the ONLF
UR MAD amhara did uprise against Haile sellasie are u mad Amhara worshiped the midget Sellasie there was no uprise against haile sellasie from his amhara,. even when he starved Tigray and others there was no uprise


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 16 Nov 2022, 11:48

Tigrayan businessmen use Djibouti ports? All of Ethiopia uses Djibouti ports. Not just Tigray. Tigray doesn't have much to export, in the first place.
The food and water Djibouti gets from Ethiopia surely doesn't originate in Tigray, that's for sure.

Historically Tigray and Somalis, especially in Djibouti, have little to no interactions, relations, trade, etc. Even though it's obvious you ain't Somali.

Now you're defending TPLF led invasion of Somalia, yet no Somali would do that. More proof you ain't Somali.
The TPLF led forces committed all kinds of atrocities in Somalia back then. It's well documented and well known.

Siad Barre gave a few old rifles to those fighting mengistu, from TPLF to EPLF and others, and some passports. That's about it. Not a significant support.
Not to mention mengistu supported SNM and that investment was greater than anything siad barre did.
Siad Barre is documented as being bitter over Isaaq somalis getting support from Mengistu.


Yeah Eritrea supported onlf while TPLF committed atrocities against somalis in Ethiopia, yet you defend the TPLF more than you defend Somalis, again, a nation that you falsely claim.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/483864

https://books.google.com/books?id=RcVFX ... ie&f=false

https://www.africabib.org/rec.php?RID=188867945


I can bring even more proof. While you provide no proof other than "just trust me bro."
Ah yes anyone who is against your extremist tigrayan nationalist narrative must be "mad."


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Zack » 16 Nov 2022, 12:00

U make no sense at all again the TPLF signed the Ethiopian DJiboutian port agreement not amhara neftenya nor galla did that

second Djibouti doesnt get water from Ethiopia it gest some veggies but it also gets veggies from somalia.


second why does it matter if i am Somali or Luo or Zulu for that matter we are discussing facts the Somali government at that time the late president of somalia abdulahi Yusuf invited the ethiopian troops to help fight shabaab . The same so called HSM govt of today has Ethiopian troops there is no difference.


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 17 Nov 2022, 19:10

You're the one who makes no sense tigrayan brother zack. You act as if tigrayans are, or were, exclusively using Djibouti (a nation you falsely claim) ports, when in reality, all Ethiopians were using it, Ethiopia as a whole was/is; Tigray is but a tiny portion of Ethiopia.
What part of the country produces most of the goods that Ethiopia exports through Djibouti? Hint: It ain't your beloved Tigray.

Oh, Djibouti doesn't get water from Ethiopia? The links below refute your lies, once again:

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/africa/djibout ... dor/989462

https://siwi.org/latest/international-c ... -djibouti/

It does matter what you are, because if you are willing to lie about your ethnicity, you're obviously going to lie about other issues.
Only someone with ulterior motives, that are nefarious/negative, would tell lie after lie.
It's only forbidden in Islam to claim to belong to any nation or family, other than your actual one.
Regardless of the semantics, or how you present it, the facts are, due to western pressure, the tplf led ethiopian state invaded somalia and committed war crimes there.


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Zack » 17 Nov 2022, 20:58

Why would I lie about. Who I am or what country I am from what will that do as benefit for you or the Galla. It makes absolutely no sense for me to lie about my ethnic or National back ground. It doesn’t benefit the Gallas what so ever. I told u it was the tigrayans that signed the deal for Ethiopia to use our port to be exactly the late prime minister of Ethiopia meles zenawi. Was the man who signed with Djibouti in Djibouti back in his heydays.

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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 17 Nov 2022, 21:15

People have various reasons for lying, that's a silly question to ask in the first place, by the way.
It's not about ''benefits,'' it's about the truth, and the truth is, you have lied several times.
You say it makes no sense, but your tigrayan brethren have been lying about their ethnicity online for years upon years.
So, it makes sense to your comrades, and of course, their motives for doing so; aren't good or benevolent at all.
It's to try to incite hatred between various ethnic groups.

Tigrayan elites signing a piece of paper, does not mean that tigrayans were the primary users of the Djibouti ports.
Nor do they border Djibouti directly, nor do they produce most of the products that were exported, or are exported through it.
So, it's irrelevant to mention that.


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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Zack » 18 Nov 2022, 06:50

The products that are being exported it isn’t important

If they come from Tigray since they rule whole freaking country.

They are responsible for the whole country
Just because tigrayans lie about their ethnicity doesn’t mean that I am. Because I am not technically tigrayans claim they are either from Eritrea they pretend to be Eritreans. Then the motive of them is as Eritreans is to criticise the president of Eritrea. In order to weak their country . But technically tigrayans aren’t claiming a different ethnic group. Since short legged kebessa and tigrayans are one ethnic group two different country. They claim to be a different country to mess with their cousins

This is the most plausible scenario . But why would a tigrayan who is enemy with Eritreans claim to be a Somali from jabuuti . That same Somali claims to support Eritrea in its sovereignty. and that tigrayans have no claim over Eritrea neither do any other Ethiopia.

Ethiopia has to be reimagined a landlocked country by hook or by crook.
So ur whole accusing me of being tigrayan is childhish and nonsense though I have no issue if I was tigrayan but I am not I don’t hate tigrayans I consider them fellow horners. By the way just because u don’t border doesn’t mean u can’t have good relations . Look at the short legged kebessa and now have good ties with the neftengas.

They don’t share a border but they it is all possible the Gallas and the Eritreans also wedi afom and Ahmed Ali are good friends . As were the late meles and our current leader his excellency i o g.

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Re: EDF should not withdraw from territories it is holding right now UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES

Post by Sadacha Macca » 18 Nov 2022, 18:08

Tigrayan brother Zack,

If there are no products to export, then what's the point of using ANY port?
It's for export and import, No?
You are not making any sense right now. Is everything okay bro? I hope so.

Some, the key word being: some, tigrayans did business there, but they are not the main users of the port, or the sole users of the port, they do not border the country from which the port/country is at, nor do they have a significant amount of trade or items being shipped through it.
You lied about other things, so it's obvious you are not trustworthy, at all. Even a pet dog or cat could see through your lies, my tegadalay tigrayan friend.
Tigrayans lie about being oromo, amara, somali (you and tigrayan brother hawdian), eritrean, etc, on this very forum; so who knows where else they're doing that at, as well.
A Tigrayan cyber cadre troll, doesn't operate with logic, they operate with ulterior motives, such as inciting conflict between ethnic groups, among other things.

The Amara and Eritreans do border each other now, now that Welkayt is back in their hands, so that point is easily refuted dude.
Tigrayans have no relations with Djibouti, as of now, nor have they had significant relations with them in the past, as Tigrayans, it's an entirely different thing when they went there representing Ethiopia as a whole. Even then, the water, the food, the products being exported through/to Djibouti, do not come from Tigray dude.
Accusing you of lying, is not ''childish and nonsense,'' it's the truth. You act as if your other tigrayan brethren haven't lied on here before. Lol, we all know they have been caught. Certain tigrayan cyber trolls on here have already been exposed for pretending to be Oromo, or Amara, while they were insulting other ethnic groups, hoping that they'd in turn, insult Oromo's or Amara's.

Ethiopia being landlocked doesn't matter, it can use many ports in the region, Assab, Massawa, Port Sudan, etc.
You as an individual have nothing to do with that anyway, so it's lame and sad to see you try and take credit for that.


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