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Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 26 Jul 2022, 04:46

Bashay Awaalom is claimed by our Tigrian cousins as a prominent person who hails from AHferom Enticho and then I am hearing from the midget Awel SAaID that the man indeed hails from Musguag in Hamasien. The question is, which one is correct? The man*s name is Awaalom Haregot while basha or Bashay is his title. Basha is ottoman title which basically means head or chief, a title which later been adopted by the Eritrean highland by adding the letter y which became Bashay. Given the ottoman never set their feet in Tigray, How did this particular individual became Bashay Awaalom haregot? More over, Tigrian intellectuals are claiming it was Ras Yohannes who gave the title bashaaay to Awaalom. Why did Yohannes give a Turkish title to his subordinate?


Hence, Awalom, at the end of the Battle, was made Bashay the highest title of honor passed to him from Ras Alula who had first been made Turk Pasha by #AtseYohannes.

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by TesfaNews » 26 Jul 2022, 05:00

Haregot is an Eritrean Name and only Eritreans accepted Turkish titles even Haile Selassie hired Eritreans to administrate Asmara such as Abbai Haregot, Haile Selassie even hired Seyoum Haregot to be the Head of Prime Minister of Ethiopia. Dozens of Eritrean Officials who were appointed by Selassie in the Ethiopian Government were Assasinated by the Derg even Aman Andom was Assasinated by the Derg this destroyed all Pro-Ethio Eritrean Elites in Eritrean society in the 70s

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Axumezana » 26 Jul 2022, 07:22

You guys you are trying to split hair! The present day Eritrea was part and parcel of the mighty Tigray . Can you separate water from milk? Trace back your ancestry tree and you will discover the fact .

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Misraq » 26 Jul 2022, 09:58

Axumezana wrote:
26 Jul 2022, 07:22
You guys you are trying to split hair! The present day Eritrea was part and parcel of the mighty Tigray . Can you separate water from milk? Trace back your ancestry tree and you will discover the fact .
Axumzena,

If we look to the real history, the Gondere blood has much foot print in Eritrea than Tigray. I am not from Gonder but i find the psychological make up of Gondere and Eritreans (tigrigna) to be so much identical. They are not theifs (infact they hate theives). they both have full pride and courageous people. We know there was a lot of population movements from amde-tsion to susnious periods. Also, the Belen of Eritrea have close ties with lasta area agew populations. their language is similar and history backs it that the belen moved up north to Eritrea after the Zagwe dynasty lost power in the 11th century. Tigray can relate to Tigrigna eritrea lingusitically and we came to learn that it is not identical.

during the times of Amdetsion (13th century) it was evident that Bahir Negash and Tigray Mekonnen are two distinct polity that rule two different localities each being a tributary to the emperor. that continued till the time of Bahir Negash Yishak where history documented it real and clear. I think the only time Tigray admistrated highland Eritrea was during the times of emperor Yohannes and that is by force and by tricks.

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Axumezana » 26 Jul 2022, 10:38

Semein Gondar is the breeding ground of lawless shiftas , kidney harvesters, slave traders, cattle thief's( rustlers) human smugglers and those who hijack live people for money. Eritrea also produces mafia like corrupted business men that brought corruption to the whole Ethiopia( even today you find Eritreans involved on illegal businesses );. Gondar culture has similarities with the culture of Tigray including Eritrea. The highlanders of Tigrinya speaking Eritrea are same to the Tigrayans. Most Eritreans from Asmara are a product mixed intermarriage like Isaias is( Gondar or Gojam husband with Tigrayan wife's). Bahire Negash were recurited from Tigrayans ( from both sides of the Mereb River). Bahire Negash was part of the Axumite power and later part of Tigray even prior to the conquest by Ras Alula( you could look in to 1849 maps).

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 27 Jul 2022, 01:55

Axumezana wrote:
26 Jul 2022, 10:38
Semein Gondar is the breeding ground of lawless shiftas , kidney harvesters, slave traders, cattle thief's( rustlers) human smugglers and those who hijack live people for money. Eritrea also produces mafia like corrupted business men that brought corruption to the whole Ethiopia( even today you find Eritreans involved on illegal businesses );. Gondar culture has similarities with the culture of Tigray including Eritrea. The highlanders of Tigrinya speaking Eritrea are same to the Tigrayans. Most Eritreans from Asmara are a product mixed intermarriage like Isaias is( Gondar or Gojam husband with Tigrayan wife's). Bahire Negash were recurited from Tigrayans ( from both sides of the Mereb River). Bahire Negash was part of the Axumite power and later part of Tigray even prior to the conquest by Ras Alula( you could look in to 1849 maps).
His eminence don't like to twist or create history to suit my own narrative. I call spade a spade. The Eritrean highlanders don't harbor Tigrian psych which is about victimhood and more over, we don't steal some ones property or violate property right of others and claim it as our own. While the leeches, let alone history of the past which was difficult to document, they even try to claim recent history which took place in our life time. The word ዓገብ or shame doesn't exist in the dictionary of Tigrians. be it ordinary Tigrians or the so called "intellectuals". Create history of thin Air, pretend yourself as some one you are not and the consequences is, it smashes on their face and they have no means to to defend it. " TPLF liberated Asmara and the Eritrean forces arrived 5 days after its liberation" :shock: "It was the Tigrian who liberated massawa". Above every thing, the leeches should know Mesgana or appreciation.
There are many ordinary amhara in the internet who show appreciation for the contribution of Eritrean Defense forces in the breaking the backbone of the leeches while Tigrians deny the contribution of EPLF soldiers who martyred in Tigray during their own liberation. Just like Misraq stated, Tigrians might share linguistic traits with the nobility but they dont share a psyche and Psyche is very important. Just because the Ghanians share linguistic traits with the English doesn't mean the Ghanians or the Nigerians share the same fundamental values of the Anglo-Saxon nations.

Last but not least, while the Eritrean highlanders legislated our own law (customary law) in the 14th century, on which there was a clear guidelines how we should run our daily life and the role of the individuals and the society was well defined, Tigray was governed by Feudal rule on which warlords could do what ever he wants.

PS, I believe it was the midget miles zenawi who stated, one is only a thief if he was caught by the police. before he is apprehended by the police, he is a hard worker businessman like any businessman. Now, tell me what kind of a morally bankrupted leader glorify and encourage theft officially? That is also why, in Tigray, there are people who kill people for stealing 10 kilo wheat.

Some Tigrians are sobering which is good.
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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Axumezana » 27 Jul 2022, 02:20

Deqi-Areait,

You are wasting time to clean your bloody hand from the genocide,war crime, rape and looting you comiited in Tigray and your bloody nose from the repetitive ቆረጣ፥ attack you received from TDF. ! The judgement is coming to your Tigrayan master Isaias and yourself soon!

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 27 Jul 2022, 02:36

Axumezana wrote:
27 Jul 2022, 02:20
Deqi-Areait,

You are wasting time to clean your bloody hand from the genocide,war crime, rape and looting you comiited in Tigray and your bloody nose from the repetitive ቆረጣ፥ attack you received from TDF. ! The judgement is coming to your Tigrayan master Isaias and yourself soon!
Just because the nobility don't share the same pathetic victim mentality doesn't mean we have short memory.
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In regard to the so called TPLF ragtag army, They were totally annihilated in less than 2 weeks and their backbone was broken. Now go and scream Tigray TeEwet. :mrgreen:

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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Noble Amhara » 27 Jul 2022, 03:21

Semien Gondar!






Axumezana wrote:
26 Jul 2022, 10:38
Semein Gondar is the breeding ground of lawless shiftas , kidney harvesters, slave traders, cattle thief's( rustlers) human smugglers and those who hijack live people for money. Eritrea also produces mafia like corrupted business men that brought corruption to the whole Ethiopia( even today you find Eritreans involved on illegal businesses );. Gondar culture has similarities with the culture of Tigray including Eritrea. The highlanders of Tigrinya speaking Eritrea are same to the Tigrayans. Most Eritreans from Asmara are a product mixed intermarriage like Isaias is( Gondar or Gojam husband with Tigrayan wife's). Bahire Negash were recurited from Tigrayans ( from both sides of the Mereb River). Bahire Negash was part of the Axumite power and later part of Tigray even prior to the conquest by Ras Alula( you could look in to 1849 maps).
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Re: Bashay Awaalom? Where did he hails from?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 27 Jul 2022, 03:26

The leeches and Tigrians in their own words. weizero Edens hero aaaite Getachew read weight almost 300 kg, yet he begg Tigrians for their livestock and children.
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