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[Sholla Addis]

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The deluded so-called somaliland system, which only exists in impossible dreams, provides this Vietnamese lobbyist with a monthly paycheck to pay for his mortgage.

Irony: This overweight guy is aware that Somalia is the focus of American strategy. however, the United States' policy is One Somalia, with no hidden agenda. Of course, safeguarding your interests is always important.

[Somaliman]

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The deluded so-called somaliland system, which only exists in impossible dreams, provides this Vietnamese lobbyist with a monthly paycheck to pay for his mortgage.

Irony: This overweight guy is aware that Somalia is the focus of American strategy. however, the United States' policy is One Somalia, with no hidden agenda. Of course, safeguarding your interests is always important.

The United State's policy is called 'hypocrisy', and it has its roots in the Anglo-Saxon, whose defining characteristic is hypocrisy, by saying one thing and doing another thing, which is often the opposite.

Both the US and its puppet, the UK, claim that their policy is 'one Somalia', yet they're the very ones who have been dismembering Somalia and destructing its statehood. Both are evils who have perfected the art of telling people what they like to hear and doing something else. Beware these demons who pretend to be good.

Neither of them has ever done anything good whatsoever to Somalia since its inception.

Had Siad Barre been alive and running Somalia today, he would have closed their friggin embassies and sent all their staff home. Sadly, since he has left Somalia, the country's affairs have been at the mercy of a bunch of self-centric corrupts, thieves, puppets, and semi-illiterates, who wouldn't hesitate to sell their own mothers for their selfish gains.

[Temt]

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The deluded so-called somaliland system, which only exists in impossible dreams, provides this Vietnamese lobbyist with a monthly paycheck to pay for his mortgage.

Irony: This overweight guy is aware that Somalia is the focus of American strategy. however, the United States' policy is One Somalia, with no hidden agenda. Of course, safeguarding your interests is always important.

The United State's policy is called 'hypocrisy', and it has its roots in the Anglo-Saxon, whose defining characteristic is hypocrisy, by saying one thing and doing another thing, which is often the opposite.

Both the US and its puppet, the UK, claim that their policy is 'one Somalia', yet they're the very ones who have been dismembering Somalia and destructing its statehood. Both are evils who have perfected the art of telling people what they like to hear and doing something else. Beware these demons who pretend to be good.

Neither of them has ever done anything good whatsoever to Somalia since its inception.

Had Siad Barre been alive and running Somalia today, he would have closed their friggin embassies and sent all their staff home. Sadly, since he has left Somalia, the country's affairs have been at the mercy of a bunch of self-centric corrupts, thieves, puppets, and semi-illiterates, who wouldn't hesitate to sell their own mothers for their selfish gains.

Yes, it is Hypocracy at its best. Just read the following article posted o Facebook on August 31st, 2021!
The Hypocrisy of the United States When Dealing with Eritrea!
Some people/organizations that may not know about the State of Eritrea and its God-fearing, hard-working, and magnanimous people may be swindled into believing what the US and its European allies say/write about Eritrea and its government. The fact remains that the various US Administrations have left their unfriendly traits of abuse and unjust treatment of the Eritrean people and their leaderships since 1941. Suffice it to mention here a few examples of what the various US Administrations have been doing to tarnish the image of Eritrea since the Eritrean people clinched their hard-fought and hard-won independence, which culminated with an overwhelming independence vote by an UN-sponsored referendum in 1993.
A few years after Eritrea enjoyed its freedom, in May 1998, the Ethiopian government, under the Tigray Peoples Liberation Front (TPLF) unexpectedly, declared war against unsuspecting Eritrea. The US that parades itself as a champion of peace, sided with the TPLF regime while disingenuously claiming to be a neutral party. Its intentions were manifested further by the biased position Dr. Susan Rice took, and the illegal sneaking into the Eritrean town of Badme from the Ethiopian side of the border by Dr. Jendayi Frazer. Both ladies were assistant secretaries of state for African affairs during the Clinton and Bush administrations respectively.
The "friendly" US government did not condemn when the TPLF regime inhumanely kicked out some 80,000 civilian Eritreans and Ethiopians (of Eritrean origin) during the unwarranted war instigated by the TPLF - despite the Eritrean Government's call for peaceful resolution of any disputed issue. The victims, including pregnant women, and young children (who were forcefully separated from their parents), were snatched away, in the darkness of the night by armed "security" agents of the TPLF regime and made to go through a war zone.
When the TPLF regime air bombed many villages in the Badme area destroying dwellings, water wells, killing and maiming many villagers including their livestock, the US chose to remain silent.
After all its treachery failed to materialize, the TPLF regime realized that it could not defeat the Eritrean people. It finally agreed to a peaceful settlement of the “issue” and was forced to sign the 2000 Algiers Peace Treaty sponsored by the UN. Nonetheless, counting on the blessing of its supporters, the TPLF regime continued to provoke Eritrea and refused to abide by the peace guidelines it signed. The US silence was deafening, despite it being one of the witnesses and guarantors of the peace agreement. The US complexity in the issue continued for 16 long years without it raising a finger at the guilty party, the TPLF, in an environment many refer to as a "no war, no peace" situation! It never condemned the TPLF regime even though the TPLF forces continued to attack the Eritrean Defense Forces' (EDF) positions in futile attempts to “defeat the EDF and illegally seize more Eritrean territories.
When in 2018, the new Prime Minister of Ethiopia, Dr. Abiy Ahmed, informed the Ethiopian Parliament that he was ready to implement the Algiers Peace Treaty with Eritrea fully - based on the Eritrea Ethiopia Border Commission (EEBC) final and binding decision, a sigh of relief was expressed by many peace-loving people and organizations around the world. The Eritrean government reciprocated in kind, and senior authorities of both countries were shuttling back and forth to and from each other's capitals as a gesture of goodwill. But alas! The TPLF regime, which was demoted by a popular Ethiopian people’s revolt to a mere administrator of the region of Tigray, bordering Eritrea, was quick to create obstacles to the burgeoning rapprochement of the two sisterly nations. TPLF created obstacle after obstacle to sabotage the 2018 peace deal signed by President Isaias Afwerki and PM Abiy Ahmed in Asmara and Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) in the presence of the UN Secretary-General, António Guterres, among others.
On November 4, 2020, the TPLF attacked the Northern Command of the Ethiopian National Defense Forces (ENDF) stationed in Tigray, killing many of them while they were asleep. Many members of the ENDF were humiliated and stark naked when they crossed the border into Eritrea seeking refuge. After the "Defeat" of the ENDF, the TPLF felt confident enough to attack Eritrea and hurled more than a dozen salvos of rockets towards Asmara. At that time the EDF was left with no option other than to defend the Eritrean people by moving into parts of Ethiopia to fill in the vacuum created by the attacked ENDF.
Now that being the case, one would think the US to be one of the countries that understood the EDF movement for it was one of the countries that commended Eritrea for being patient by refraining from reciprocating in kind after the TPLF rocket attacks against Eritrea. But no, true to its trademark "my way or the highway" mentality, it demanded that EDF withdraw "from Tigray" - as if there was a legally construed country known as Tigray!
For discussion's sake, let's assume that was "just a slip of a tongue" that the US authorities meant “Ethiopia” instead. And there comes the fallacy and double-talk when some US officials think they can get away with it. The last time I check, “Tigray” was a part of Ethiopia, a sovereign country. And if there was an issue with the presence of EDF in Ethiopia, it is only Ethiopia that has the right to ask, and indeed demand, the withdrawal of another sovereign state military from its territory, not the US or any other country for that matter. The irony of the belligerent behavior of the United States is that it has the audacity to demand the withdrawal of Eritrean forces from Ethiopia, when its armies are stationed in many foreign territories including Germany, Japan, South Korea, and so on. Thus, ladies and gentlemen, if that is not hypocrisy on the part of the US, I don't know what is?
Berhane Alazar
https://www.facebook.com/Hawileyto1

[Zack]

It’s not the USA that is doing this it is the Somalis bring the president of Somalia hassan Mahamoud and president of Somaliland in one room and guess if they agree on anything. They will not if one wants a solution for Somalia it needs to come from Somaliis because the somaliland people are cheating for this act as I have seen it on twitter and the somalia people and leaders are against it so who is right and who is wrong

Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

It’s not the USA that is doing this it is the Somalis bring the president of Somalia hassan Mahamoud and president of Somaliland in one room and guess if they agree on anything. They will not if one wants a solution for Somalia it needs to come from Somaliis because the somaliland people are cheating for this act as I have seen it on twitter and the somalia people and leaders are against it so who is right and who is wrong

Dr Zackovich

Due to your intrinsic tribal mindset, you see every problem and solution regarding Somalis as tribal! You need to grow out of such poisonous and backward mentality.

The presidents and leaders that you're referring to are just pawns and cannot make a single move themselves without the full consent of the usual movers and shakers.

Just a thought!

[Zack]

Nonsense I never mentioned any tribe of clan I only talked about that the solutions relies with in Somalia and this is the true




You give to much rights to westerners surely they have some influence of Mogadishu today agrees to a divorce with somaliland do u think the west can stop it like like wise of Somalia agrees to their interest of a United Somalia do u think the west can. Do anything. Also two things I will never agree and I will always dismiss that Somalia war happend because of external factors. That I will never accept it was due to Somalia and their war with the dictator and their own mistrust

[Ethoash]

i think this is very good for Somalia if they want peace. look Northern Sudan and Southern Sudan break away and they achieved peace. Ethiopia and Eritrea break away and achieved peace

the Main Somalia are like Amhara they r buda they want oppressed the northern Somaliland .....the main Somalia think they r 1st class Somalian then the Somaliland hence they want to send their own people to govern the Somaliland but the Somaliland want to be governed by their own people had the main Somalia agreed and accept fed system both Somalian would have join force and live peaceful but they did not hence for last so many years Somaliland achieved peace and develop her land without crazy Somalian why should be dragged in to warlike people is beyond me.. someone must come and explain to me.

look the Somalia guy as soon as he go power he went to Eritrea why looking for trouble ... i think Ethiopia should conduct our business with Somaliland and forget this one Somalia business let them figure it out by themselves.. as i said Somalia people want peace if they have peace for ten years they would become super power of Africa economically .. i have no doubt about this the only problem is this people are hot temper they don't give peace a chance

[Somaliman]

Nonsense I never mentioned any tribe of clan I only talked about that the solutions relies with in Somalia and this is the true




You give to much rights to westerners surely they have some influence of Mogadishu today agrees to a divorce with somaliland do u think the west can stop it like like wise of Somalia agrees to their interest of a United Somalia do u think the west can. Do anything. Also two things I will never agree and I will always dismiss that Somalia war happend because of external factors. That I will never accept it was due to Somalia and their war with the dictator and their own mistrust

I'm not going to claim that you're a Tigrayan, as the mentally disturbed bit.ch that calls herself AbyssiniaLady, does, but, as I told you a few months ago, I don't discuss Somalia and its affairs with you, because not only is your knowledge about Somalia is extremely poor, but also, it's limited to what your tribal lenses display to you.

[Zack]

There is no tribal mention of me it’s you mentioning the tribal issue I haven’t mentioned the tribal issue not once.

My country Djibouti is much involved in Somalia issues we have troops there the president of Somalia is touring Djibouti as we speak we welcome him as we do with other Somalis

I just believe it’s time for Somalia to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming others that’s all I am saying there is no point blaiming the west the east the Arabs the Africans for Somali problems Somalia problems were caused by Somalis an can only be solved by Somalis that’s all I am saying


Dr Zackovich

[Ethoash]

Zack

as Somalian from Djibouti he was think of u one of his kin so he was expecting you to hide his dirty laundry but
you air your Somali family dirty laundry in public specially in Amhara forum .

to me as i said above Somali land gone case .. if Somalia want union then they have to have federation real federation and Somaliland become one of state and govern themselves... if Somalia become truth fed state they become economy power with in ten years .. if Somalia want to make Somaliland union by force all beat is off .poverty will continue

[Sholla Addis]

Zack

as Somalian from Djibouti he was think of u one of his kin so he was expecting you to hide his dirty laundry but
you air your Somali family dirty laundry in public specially in Amhara forum .

to me as i said above Somali land gone case .. if Somalia want union then they have to have federation real federation and Somaliland become one of state and govern themselves... if Somalia become truth fed state they become economy power with in ten years .. if Somalia want to make Somaliland union by force all beat is off .poverty will continue

Somali perspectives, federalism is a notion that was imposed from outside the country, making it a deliberate state policy to weaken the Somali state.

These outside factors, on a regional and global scale, have contributed to the fragmentation, Numerous Somali and non-Somali analysts believe that neighbouring Ethiopia, which also implemented ethnic federalism
( Gosa) , had a significant demonstrative influence on the adoption of federalism in Somalia and, in some circumstances, drove Somali leaders to lean towards its preference.

Ethiopia actually pioneered the idea of the which prepared the path for the establishment of federalism in Somalia.

One reason I missed Siyad Bare was because he was a sincere nationalist who cared about Somalia's unity and who built a strong central government that benefited all Somalis.

Whether they lived in Ethiopia or Northeastern Kenya. I recall that during the Derg era, Menge never attempted to treat Somali citizens unfairly, and the Somali national army was prepared to provide security guarantees for the so-called Somali state region.


Following the fall of Siad Bare, Somalia's government is made up entirely of spies( Selay) and heartless monsters who will sell their own daughters for the highest price.

Strong central administration and the dissolution of so-called federalism, which is merely small tribal enclaves, are essential to Somalia's survival.

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Somali man Agreed Your points Thanks.

[Somaliman]

There is no tribal mention of me it’s you mentioning the tribal issue I haven’t mentioned the tribal issue not once.

My country Djibouti is much involved in Somalia issues we have troops there the president of Somalia is touring Djibouti as we speak we welcome him as we do with other Somalis

I just believe it’s time for Somalia to take responsibility for their own actions and stop blaming others that’s all I am saying there is no point blaiming the west the east the Arabs the Africans for Somali problems Somalia problems were caused by Somalis an can only be solved by Somalis that’s all I am saying


Dr Zackovich

It's entirely up to you to say or believe whatever you like to, but just don't expect me to waste my time discussing your crap with you, or lecturing you on stuff.

You say that you're from Djibouti, but you perfectly know that in reality you're not from Djibouti but from Ethiopia. You associate yourself with Djibouti simply because you're from the Isse clan.

[Zack]

I was born and bred in Djibouti until my 17 year I lived in Djibouti it’s true I also lived in Ethiopia and half of my family lives there we don’t really believe In colonial borders Do you we don’t really dear lad
Djibouti and shinile are both Issa country’s

Dr Zackovich

[Zack]

Zack

as Somalian from Djibouti he was think of u one of his kin so he was expecting you to hide his dirty laundry but
you air your Somali family dirty laundry in public specially in Amhara forum .

to me as i said above Somali land gone case .. if Somalia want union then they have to have federation real federation and Somaliland become one of state and govern themselves... if Somalia become truth fed state they become economy power with in ten years .. if Somalia want to make Somaliland union by force all beat is off .poverty will continue

Somali perspectives, federalism is a notion that was imposed from outside the country, making it a deliberate state policy to weaken the Somali state.

These outside factors, on a regional and global scale, have contributed to the fragmentation, Numerous Somali and non-Somali analysts believe that neighbouring Ethiopia, which also implemented ethnic federalism
( Gosa) , had a significant demonstrative influence on the adoption of federalism in Somalia and, in some circumstances, drove Somali leaders to lean towards its preference.

Ethiopia actually pioneered the idea of the which prepared the path for the establishment of federalism in Somalia.

One reason I missed Siyad Bare was because he was a sincere nationalist who cared about Somalia's unity and who built a strong central government that benefited all Somalis.

Whether they lived in Ethiopia or Northeastern Kenya. I recall that during the Derg era, Menge never attempted to treat Somali citizens unfairly, and the Somali national army was prepared to provide security guarantees for the so-called Somali state region.


Following the fall of Siad Bare, Somalia's government is made up entirely of spies( Selay) and heartless monsters who will sell their own daughters for the highest price.

Strong central administration and the dissolution of so-called federalism, which is merely small tribal enclaves, are essential to Somalia's survival.

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Somali man Agreed Your points Thanks.

Federalism is actually supported by most Somalis with the exception of only two clans the main clan in Mogadishu and the clan of siad barre and farmaajo don’t support but the rest support federalism federalism is now enshrined in the constitution it’s called the federal republic of Somalia so it isn’t foreign imposed all Somalia wanted it. Since 2004 it has been adopted by the former president of Somalia Abdilahi yusuf.


Dr Zackovich

[Sholla Addis]

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I already knew Somaliman was right, but your writing. "the mentality that says my grandfather's camels previously grazed here" verified what I already knew.

[Somaliman]

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I already knew Somaliman was right, but your writing. "the mentally that says my grandfather's camels previously grazed here" verified what I already knew.

Sholla Addis,

we don’t really believe In colonial borders

This is the guy, who believes in 21st century that wherever his grandfather's camels grazed once upon a time belongs to him, who wants us to waste our time replying to and debunking his crap!

[Sholla Addis]

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I already knew Somaliman was right, but your writing. "the mentally that says my grandfather's camels previously grazed here" verified what I already knew.

Sholla Addis,

we don’t really believe In colonial borders

This is the guy, who believes in 21st century that wherever his grandfather's camels grazed once upon a time belongs to him, who wants us to waste our time replying to and debunking his crap!

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Somaliman, I understand you, but I never respond to him. You'd be astonished to realise, even " In my opinion, as long as no harm is done, I simply observe the "Abyssinian lady" who advocates Somali oil, the ocean, and the economy.

You are undoubtedly already aware of Ethiopian politics and ethnic groups, but they are all here to defend Ethiopia, thus you hardly ever see them promoting their clan.

Cheers.

[Zack]

Somaliman why are you So disengenous we all know the majority of Somalis don’t believe in these European made boundaries surely we respect them because of being political correct for what it’s worth . My land is my land and Ethiopia surely I have an Ethiopia passport but my region is the Somali region as I am also a Djibouti citizen the whole argument why most Somalis object to somaliland is because they want to return to colonial borders. So why are you against them I know why I oppose their independence but do you . So let’s be honest in here shoa lin. U don’t have to respond to me but I am just telling u the vast majority of Somalis support the federalist formula for the new Somalia federal republic. Don’t let Somaliman tell you other wise.

Dr Zackovich

[Somaliman]

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I already knew Somaliman was right, but your writing. "the mentally that says my grandfather's camels previously grazed here" verified what I already knew.

Sholla Addis,

we don’t really believe In colonial borders

This is the guy, who believes in 21st century that wherever his grandfather's camels grazed once upon a time belongs to him, who wants us to waste our time replying to and debunking his crap!

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Somaliman, I understand you, but I never respond to him. You'd be astonished to realise, even " In my opinion, as long as no harm is done, I simply observe the "Abyssinian lady" who advocates Somali oil, the ocean, and the economy.

You are undoubtedly already aware of Ethiopian politics and ethnic groups, but they are all here to defend Ethiopia, thus you hardly ever see them promoting their clan.

Cheers.

Sholla Addis,

The fact is that many Somalis, particularly those in the north of Somalia, Djibouti, and Ethiopia, are infested with clan mentality and cannot even talk, think, or reason outside their clan mentality box in which they've self-imprisoned. Many of them feel uncomfortable talking to another Somali even about the weather without knowing which clan their interlocutor belongs to. Trust me, the above Somalis are more loyal to their clan bullshit than the God they pray to everyday. If you even talk to them about the galaxy, they'll talk to you about the galaxy from their clan perspective.

Clannism in the Somali community is a disease that is extremely hard, if not impossible to eradicate, and the current protracted chaos in Somalia has exacerbated it tremendously. Clannism breeds nepotism, and nepotism breeds corruption, and corruption breeds the Somalia that you see today.

Siad Barre tried to fight clannism during the first years of his rule.

As for AbyssiniaLady, she's mentally deranged. About 13 years, she used to demonise Somalis, calling them names, day in, day out, while parroting incessantly that Oromo people came in from Madagascar and that they should have been deported there. But since she has married a Somali, she spends her time discussing Somali issues, and it seems the bit.ch has got plenty of time since she has moved to North America very recently.

Just give her some time and you would see her promoting the same Eritrea that she has lately been obsessed with striking.