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[ethiopianunity]

Those people and those in government as well as defense are succeeding to replace Tplf as anti Ethiopian nature. The mainstream Ethiopians are veering away from the current government. This is what I was saying, what is the heart beat of Aby from the get go? He works along with Tplf, Shabia and illuminatis and as I may have predicted, he has to go along with the power that gave him Ethiopia. So was this change the over throw of Tplf was initiaged by the Youth or there was a plan from the get go to replace Tplf with Olf? That is what it seemed like. So, more and more Aby's nature will come out. Especially more mainstream Ethiopians oppose, we knnow then the trajectory of Aby government was not pro Ethiopia in the first place. Note, when I say pro Ethiopia, no one in Ethiopia should be targeted because of who they are no violence! However since Derg, Ethiopians have been targetted systematically and more so today, that is not Ethiopia. The constitution should protect all Ethiopians, the right to develop and live in harmony and peace in their own country. This has not been happening. So that is not Ethiopia.

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what is the heart beat of Aby from the get go? He works along with Tplf, Shabia and illuminatis

And he is committed in preserving the Weyannie policy of ethnic politics and the poisonous constitution. He firmly said he will not negotiate on it.
In other words he is a Weyannie.

So, why did you call those of us who adamantly oppose the Abiye regime a Weyannie?
You can’t have it both ways.
You can’t be a supporter of the constitution and anti Weyannie. You can’t be for killization and anti Weyannie at the same time.
A chronic problem of the G7 crowd.

[Sadacha Macca]

Federalism isn't a so called woyane concept or something that Tigray solely supports. We Oromos are strong advocates of it, because we want our own autonomous state that is ruled only by Oromo, where the soldiers and police are only Oromo, and where our youth learn in afaan Oromo and Amharic as a second language. There is no compromising on that anytime soon. You see the sidama struggled for their statehood and got it. You see the Welayta also demanding their state. You see the Silte wanting theirs. You guys have to realize that the old Ethiopia is long gone. There will be no more old administrative system. Get over it. You see amhara nationalism flourishing and growing, because they realized that's the only way to truly struggle for and advocate for your people's interests. no one's gonna do it for them or for any other nation.

Another thing.... OLF seems to be what some people call an Oromo who stands up for his people. When OPDO members stood up to meles and TPLF whenever they were coming up with policies that would inevitably harm Oromos, they'd call those OPDO members "OLF." If standing up for our nation makes us OLF, so be it, we'll embrace it with pride. What you think or intend to be an insult is a source of pride for us Oromos then.
You call Abiy OLF because he's not doing what you think is best for your group, which is dismantling federalism and trying to resurrect the old empire, which would lead to chaos on a scale that you'd never imagine. Only a naive fool or someone wishing for Ethiopia to disintegrate, would advocate for going against a form of governance that I'm sure most would want, from Oromia to sidama to silte to Somali to Tigray even.

[Abere]

You seem just finding it out now .

OLF is the direct photocopy of TPLF. However, OLF was manufactured and made by TPLF. It is TPLF that owns the trademark or the owner of the patent of OLF. In other words, TPLF duplicated itself into OLF, all the statement however captioned in Oromigan. In nutshell, TPLF is the mother of all problems and OLF is the maid of TPLF. In some instance, some animals a few weeks later simply due to delivery complications die , what happened last November 2020 likens that , even some male insects die immediately after the perform intercourse after passing the gene. So, what happened between TPLF and OLF is just between OLF/TPLF. If there is any casualties between them it is due to unintended errors. No body recognized their illegal constitution, no body recognized their tribal region, nobody gave legitimacy for their leadership , they are just using gun to enforce it. OLF/TPLF spent 50 years f@arting up and down, but they got nothing to show other than massacre, destruction, and global humiliations. The so-called fake region”Oromiya”, or “Abay Tigray” are petri dish of virus of tribalism and violence.

Those people and those in government as well as defense are succeeding to replace Tplf as anti Ethiopian nature. The mainstream Ethiopians are veering away from the current government. This is what I was saying, what is the heart beat of Aby from the get go? He works along with Tplf, Shabia and illuminatis and as I may have predicted, he has to go along with the power that gave him Ethiopia. So was this change the over throw of Tplf was initiaged by the Youth or there was a plan from the get go to replace Tplf with Olf? That is what it seemed like. So, more and more Aby's nature will come out. Especially more mainstream Ethiopians oppose, we knnow then the trajectory of Aby government was not pro Ethiopia in the first place. Note, when I say pro Ethiopia, no one in Ethiopia should be targeted because of who they are no violence! However since Derg, Ethiopians have been targetted systematically and more so today, that is not Ethiopia. The constitution should protect all Ethiopians, the right to develop and live in harmony and peace in their own country. This has not been happening. So that is not Ethiopia.

[ethiopianunity]

Abere, l was giving the benefit of the doubt to Aby government. Think about it, we are barking based on what we see the result, we actually don't know what is going on as we are far away from it. Reading from google, the sophisticate Artificial Intelligence is replacing leaders that are eliminated, controlled or for their protection. Anything can be possible to Dr Aby as well. But that does not mean his government or him should not be criticized either. The more Aby government is acting as enemy the more he will not be supported even if the enemy is lurking to replace Dr Aby. I think Aby maybe also following true enemy of Ethiopia naively thinking the enemy is firndly, he maybe fighting the primary enemy. However, many clues show even minor issues to ease the suffering of people is not done to show, his priority is misplaced. Ethiopia should work on the domestic and foreign issue. Instead appointing people based on ethnicity favoritism with lack of knowledge of the country's domestic and foreign issue, obviously it is the same system as Tplf's wants the country to fail. It is better to face other enemies than enemy leader like Meles Zenawi who destroyed the country, if Aby is heading the same direction, of course every Ethiopian should oppose him, while working on the ground for new leaders. In fact the more power he gains the more he becomes like Zenawi therefore indeed Ethiopia better prepare new leaders otherwise it will be another 27 years ethnic rule. 100% for sure Shabia installed Tplf and Zenawi. Shabia installed Aby too therefore, we can't expect pigeon egg out of snake, right? The sooner realized the better! The killings of many Tigrayans is the result of Zenaw's rule. The same will happen under Aby's rule if the same strategy given to him by Shabia.

[ethiopianunity]

what is the heart beat of Aby from the get go? He works along with Tplf, Shabia and illuminatis

And he is committed in preserving the Weyannie policy of ethnic politics and the poisonous constitution. He firmly said he will not negotiate on it.
In other words he is a Weyannie.

So, why did you call those of us who adamantly oppose the Abiye regime a Weyannie?
You can’t have it both ways.
You can’t be a supporter of the constitution and anti Weyannie. You can’t be for killization and anti Weyannie at the same time.
A chronic problem of the G7 crowd.

I used to think you want 100% change knowing what Weyane unlished for 27 years. But saying change does not happen in a day now is wrong because the govt will use this excuse from people, may not even think about changing for better especially if current govt is deemed to be Eprdf, if it likes the status quo. So indirectly we are enabling it not to work hard for better change by saying it is hard to bring change the damage Weyane did for 27 years. The other wrong is if the current govt is genuine, it had ample support from the mass to put them to work towards better change. On the other hand, it is amateurish to demand change from you without understanding the heavy load the govt is on and not lending hand and rather demanding change.

[ethiopianunity]

Federalism isn't a so called woyane concept or something that Tigray solely supports. We Oromos are strong advocates of it, because we want our own autonomous state that is ruled only by Oromo, where the soldiers and police are only Oromo, and where our youth learn in afaan Oromo and Amharic as a second language. There is no compromising on that anytime soon. You see the sidama struggled for their statehood and got it. You see the Welayta also demanding their state. You see the Silte wanting theirs. You guys have to realize that the old Ethiopia is long gone. There will be no more old administrative system. Get over it. You see amhara nationalism flourishing and growing, because they realized that's the only way to truly struggle for and advocate for your people's interests. no one's gonna do it for them or for any other nation.

Another thing.... OLF seems to be what some people call an Oromo who stands up for his people. When OPDO members stood up to meles and TPLF whenever they were coming up with policies that would inevitably harm Oromos, they'd call those OPDO members "OLF." If standing up for our nation makes us OLF, so be it, we'll embrace it with pride. What you think or intend to be an insult is a source of pride for us Oromos then.
You call Abiy OLF because he's not doing what you think is best for your group, which is dismantling federalism and trying to resurrect the old empire, which would lead to chaos on a scale that you'd never imagine. Only a naive fool or someone wishing for Ethiopia to disintegrate, would advocate for going against a form of governance that I'm sure most would want, from Oromia to sidama to silte to Somali to Tigray even.

Sadaccha,

Thanks for being clear and honest. I always think that because you had disintegration mind of Ethiopia, you began Liberation Fronts and killing and maiming people instead of sitting making things as clear as you did here. That is great.

Everyone believes in federalism as well. So is speaking your own language. As federalists, what things do you believe you want to share as Ethiopian, or is there? How did you acquire the land you require is Oromiya that is also indigenous to other ethnics you swallowed within Oromiya that was NEVER existed prior 25 years ago, which you call Oromiya is constructed and stolen by Liberation Fronts which l believe are the enemies of my country which you are going along with within Ethiopia.

[Sadacha Macca]

Federalism isn't a so called woyane concept or something that Tigray solely supports. We Oromos are strong advocates of it, because we want our own autonomous state that is ruled only by Oromo, where the soldiers and police are only Oromo, and where our youth learn in afaan Oromo and Amharic as a second language. There is no compromising on that anytime soon. You see the sidama struggled for their statehood and got it. You see the Welayta also demanding their state. You see the Silte wanting theirs. You guys have to realize that the old Ethiopia is long gone. There will be no more old administrative system. Get over it. You see amhara nationalism flourishing and growing, because they realized that's the only way to truly struggle for and advocate for your people's interests. no one's gonna do it for them or for any other nation.

Another thing.... OLF seems to be what some people call an Oromo who stands up for his people. When OPDO members stood up to meles and TPLF whenever they were coming up with policies that would inevitably harm Oromos, they'd call those OPDO members "OLF." If standing up for our nation makes us OLF, so be it, we'll embrace it with pride. What you think or intend to be an insult is a source of pride for us Oromos then.
You call Abiy OLF because he's not doing what you think is best for your group, which is dismantling federalism and trying to resurrect the old empire, which would lead to chaos on a scale that you'd never imagine. Only a naive fool or someone wishing for Ethiopia to disintegrate, would advocate for going against a form of governance that I'm sure most would want, from Oromia to sidama to silte to Somali to Tigray even.

Sadaccha,

Thanks for being clear and honest. I always think that because you had disintegration mind of Ethiopia, you began Liberation Fronts and killing and maiming people instead of sitting making things as clear as you did here. That is great.

Everyone believes in federalism as well. So is speaking your own language. As federalists, what things do you believe you want to share as Ethiopian, or is there? How did you acquire the land you require is Oromiya that is also indigenous to other ethnics you swallowed within Oromiya that was NEVER existed prior 25 years ago, which you call Oromiya is constructed and stolen by Liberation Fronts which l believe are the enemies of my country which you are going along with within Ethiopia.

Agame TPLF unity,

Whether it be disintegration or federalism, it is for the Oromo masses to decide, not for you or others.
Trying to impose your will and perspective on the Oromo, is only going to lead to failure.
You cannot force unity on us, if that's not what we want, as a whole, or as a majority.
Even if you disagree, dislike it, and hate it; the Oromo and the Oromo alone have to be the ones who decide what's best for them collectively.
Whether that be more autonomy, so that we have our own Oromo Army, or complete independence, will be up to us. That's it, it's quite simple.
What is there to share as Ethiopian? You tell me? Let's see what you say/think.
How did any ethnic group or government or empire acquire its land? That will answer your own question!

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I used to think you want 100% change knowing what Weyane unlished for 27 years.
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So, 4+ years is not enough for the Abiye regime to start debating or even abolishing the Weyannie constitution and killil policy?
And asking for the change of the evil policy is enough for you to label me whatever name your brain come up with?
And you are anti Weyannie and for Ethiopia and we are not.
Be real man.

[Tiago]

Federalism is not the problem. when parochial ethnocentric ideal concepts are attached to federalism, every village idiot and thug want their own little country by expelling/killing those they deem others.
Ethnic federalism is good for thievery, corruption ,genocide and total disintegration of a nation. Yugoslavia is a good example.