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Post by Ethoash » 11 Jun 2022, 14:11

ወድ አብዲሳ

በጣም ድንቅ ጥቅስ ጎሹ ወልዴ የፈለገውን ያህል ቢራቀቅ በእንግሊዘኛ ። የፈለገው ያህል ቢማር የዛን ቀን ድርድሩን ተሽንፎዋል ብቻውን አስቦት ብቻውን ለምን ይቅርብኝ ብሎ ያረገው ነገር ይሆን ብቻ ወድቆዋል። አሁን እኛ የምንማረው ከሱ ውድቀት ካርዳችን በሙሉ ተበልቶ በተቃራኒው እጅ ካለ ። ማረግ ያለብን ዋናችንን ብንችል። ባንችል ሒወታችንን ማዳን ነው። እንጂ ጠቅላላውን ቁማር መፈግ ከተሽንፍን በኋላ ከጅልነት ጅልነት ነው።

አሁን የጎሹን ወድቀት ወድ አብይ ስታመጣው አብይ እማሮችን ስምቶ አሜሪካኖችን አላናግርም ብሎ ሚስማር ሲከቱለት የተማረ ይመስለኛል ግን ደግሞ ወዲያ ወደቀድሞው መንግድ ይገባል ሙልጭልጭ ይሏል። ቆፍጣና ሆኖ ማንም ቢቃወመው የሚያምንበትን ማረግ ሲግባው ሲያመነታ ገድል ይዞን ሊገባ ነው።

እኔ የፈለገው በለው ተሽናፊ ጎሾ ወልዴ የኔው ኢትዬዽያዊ ነው። በጣም የማደንቀው ደግሞ አንዴ ተናግሮ ሳይሳካለት ሲቀር ድምፁን አጥፍቶ በስነስርዓት ኑሮውን ቀጠለ እንጂ እንድ ፕሮፌስር አለምአየሁ አልቀበጠም አልተዋረደም ። ፕሮፌስር አለማየሁ ትግል በቃኝ ብሎ ንሮውን እየገፋ ይመስለኛል።

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Post by Union » 11 Jun 2022, 14:20

Anbeta qorchame

Keep repeating your own lies. Kkkk. And don't be angry, you started it! We Ethiopians only fought with you in 1998. You already know what happned :lol: The derg was beaten by Ethiopians.

If we go back 1200 years we were working hard to save your as's from the turks and Egyptians who you accepted with your as's bending too high up. :lol: :lol: ንገሩኝ ባይ ቆዳ ቆርጫሚ

So the shut the fck bit'tch :lol: :lol: :lol:

Trust me we ain't backstabbers, we appreciated the Eritrean government for siding with Amara and we recognized it would have taken us longer to defeat tplf and we would have endured more suffering if Eritrean government was not helping us. We are not going to deny that. Amaras were heavly involved on the war against the derg. Derg is our government regardless of its bad and goods. But individual nasty people like you don't represent the Eritrean government.

lil kogne wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 13:45
union Mother f'u'cker, we do not give a shi't about your Kings or emperors, We just keep making them cry one by one annihilate them when the do not conform or comply. We do not boast AKAKI ZERAF, we just walk the talk. I am Just wondering if your stinky a'ss and your country person Ms. Right have lost your daddies becoming fertilizers in The HAMASIEN LAND. Ms. Right indeed absolutely and positively I am Hamasien and have acquired the traits how to punish the AKAKI ZERAF YEFYEL WETETIE always when they start boasting on an empty.
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Post by Ethoash » 11 Jun 2022, 14:27

union አረ እንወያይበት

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Post by Selam/ » 11 Jun 2022, 14:38

Politics one thing, academics another. Goshu’s educational credentials & rhetorical skills are indeed unparalleled but he miserably failed when it comes to politics, military & management. He was part of the inner circle of the butcher of Ethiopia, Mengistu H Mariam. He left the country after the damage was already done, promising that he would lead & wage a gorilla war against Derg. While folks back home were expecting him to show up anytime via Sudan or Kenya, he completely disappeared ever since his departure until he resurfaced for the speech to congress. His speech was indeed brilliant & exceptional but it was too late & useless. To me the most brilliant statesman, diplomat & academician of all time is the late Aklilu Habtewold.

I feel the pain of our Eritrean brothers on this forum but remember that some of the commentators here are woyane weasels. I should however say that both Ethiopians & Eritreans paid the price for the lengthy & unnecessary war. Several thousand young military men/ women & civilians died, and the livelihood of many innocent people got permanently damaged. Any one who thinks one or the other side alone is to blame for the destruction is either dishonest or uninformed. There were cruel & crook politicians & military personnel on either side, who didn’t mind bombing civilians, destroying bridges or looting banks. But the most cruel atrocities in the history of the horn were committed by woyane thugs.

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Post by lil kogne » 11 Jun 2022, 14:42

Union biotch! Your As's can not protect your stinky self let alone others, You made history on others back mother, You Know really know what happened in1988, how many of you have been annihilated and met your maker . your bones are still strewn all over the border. Of course there is a price to pay when fighting with fire, but your leaders really know what happened and they would not want to repeat such kind of defeat. we do not boast or cry, we understand how the war chess is played, if unsuccessful and things do not go our way, we bide our time and complete our mission at our convinience.
Bitc'h mother stop crying, you haven't seen nothing yet !!! you haven't even told the poor mothers of the fallen where abouts of their children. That is how cheap your lives are . Motha !!!!

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Post by Union » 11 Jun 2022, 14:48

አንተን ማን ይሰማል ብለህ ነው እዚህ የምትቸከችከው። ቅጫምህን ያራገፈልህን ዞረህ የምትሳደብ ተንከሲስ የሴጣን ልጅ
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Post by Ethoash » 11 Jun 2022, 14:57

dr. Salam,

u ask Goshu to go to war for u, while u driving taxi and feed your family... he have right to say i am done and go home...who r u to question him ...

second u can kiss Eritreans behind ... i don't care they choice to go if u want take the Amhara and break away with them ..

The Eritrean told us they going to become Singapore and they failed big time. now they blame everyone but themselves . The Eritrean had 31 years to correct their mistake ... and failed ... .

3rd u ask who is at fault for all war crime .. very simple answer is your father The Derg . why because they loser the one who pay for the war........................

have a nice day!
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Post by Selam/ » 11 Jun 2022, 15:14

አቶ አመዶ - If you expect me to understand any of the gibberish you scribbled, you’re not only idiotic but also inherently demented. I advised you long ago to retire in Debre Damo monastery to repent your seven decades of crimes & sins.
Ethoash wrote:
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dr. Salam,

u ask Goshu war for u while u driving taxi... he have full right to say i done enough and go his way... second try to reason with Eritreans ... i dont they choice to go if u want take the Amhara and break away with them .. i used to love Eritreans i thought they r super human and i thought they will be Singapore they failed big time he cant blame on Goshu now... they 31 years to recover but they didn't so they themselves to blame ... Goshu hero to me even at lost of his life greatest battle... he is only human .. i know they way he speak was not even go he was using African American preaching style where they white hate ... if u don't do this or that u will regret it later game was not enough to win him...

3rd u ask who is at fault for all this simple answer is Derg why because they lose the winner is the one who judge u the loser become persecuted

have a nice day!
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Post by Right » 11 Jun 2022, 15:23

I didn’t know he was a Yale graduate and didn’t know he was a graduate of AAU and military academy. A very impressive guy. He was a minster of education under the Derg. I don’t know about his record. Serving the Derg regime was not something that one can be proud of but still he tried to contribute and give back to society.
Good for him.

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Post by Abdisa » 11 Jun 2022, 16:05

When the great Ethiopian intellectual, Professor Al Mariam, driven by the old adage that says: "the great aim of education is not knowledge, but action," was working tirelessly exposing the double standards and hypocrisy that are the hallmarks of Neo-colonialism, the opportunist octogenarian Goshu Wolde on the other hand, with one foot on a banana peel, and the other in the grave, was biding his time, waiting for a Neo-colonial wave to propel him forward to his apocalyptic destiny of feudalism. Unfortunately for him, time and tide wait for no man.

But that's not to say Goshu Wolde doesn't qualify for an animated voice acting job position at Walt Disney. His potential is endless! I can actually see him writing a children's book, of course in the English language. :mrgreen:

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Post by Horus » 11 Jun 2022, 16:46

Abdisa wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:05
When the great Ethiopian intellectual, Professor Al Mariam, driven by the old adage that says: "the great aim of education is not knowledge, but action," was working tirelessly exposing the double standards and hypocrisy that are the hallmarks of Neo-colonialism, the opportunist octogenarian Goshu Wolde on the other hand, with one foot on a banana peel, and the other in the grave, was biding his time, waiting for a Neo-colonial wave to propel him forward to his apocalyptic destiny of feudalism. Unfortunately for him, time and tide wait for no man.

But that's not to say Goshu Wolde doesn't qualify for an animated voice acting job position at Walt Disney. His potential is endless! I can actually see him writing a children's book, of course in the English language. :mrgreen:
Abdisa,
On this Forum, i had always considered you as one of the calm, thoughtful participants. I find your level of anger bordering the untruth very disturbing. Your association of Goshu with Feudalism is precisely the opposite of who he is. Go ask his Navy colleagues. He was a bright proud military officer with much disdain for the feudal ruling class and known for that behavior.

You might have your own personal motives for this level of anger and hate, but associating Goshu with Feudalism is totally inaccurate. Yes, in the early 1990s when he organized The Ethiopian Medhin Party - all sorts of Ethiopian patriots and nationalist joined him, for example in DC Lij Siefu, son in law of HIM was party member. So , I don't know where you got the idea that Goshu was a feudalist. Goshu is the product of Gore Illubabor, not even Shewa!

In fact, one of my criticisms of Abiy is that he failed to invite folks like Goshu into his government , folks with rich in years of experience and intellectual caliber. Well, that is the sickness in the Ethiopian political culture.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 11 Jun 2022, 17:27

Abdisa wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 16:05
When the great Ethiopian intellectual, Professor Al Mariam, driven by the old adage that says: "the great aim of education is not knowledge, but action," was working tirelessly exposing the double standards and hypocrisy that are the hallmarks of Neo-colonialism, the opportunist octogenarian Goshu Wolde on the other hand, with one foot on a banana peel, and the other in the grave, was biding his time, waiting for a Neo-colonial wave to propel him forward to his apocalyptic destiny of feudalism. Unfortunately for him, time and tide wait for no man.

But that's not to say Goshu Wolde doesn't qualify for an animated voice acting job position at Walt Disney. His potential is endless! I can actually see him writing a children's book, of course in the English language. :mrgreen:
In my little understanding of the subject matter here I think that before Ato Goshu Wolde went to the Neo-colonialists' house, the Neo-colonialists themselves came to his house and put the house in disorder. In such a scenario the least he could have done is to go to their own house and request them to leave his house, after putting the items they disturbed in order again.

Here Horus 1 and our Eritrean cousins 0. When they can't win the argument it is common that they flock together on their side.

If Fiyameta had a point, then they could have said there is no need to flock together on someone for an already won argument, isn't it my Oromo friend?

Goshu Wolde's speech before the congress was never too late. The message will be eternal!

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Post by Union » 11 Jun 2022, 17:34

Anbeta qorchame, calm down. :lol:

People just google to see who won the Ethio-eritrea war :lol: so shu't the fck bit'tch :lol:

You were running back to save your arse... bit'tch :lol: leaving your deads and badime behinds :lol: ፈረንጆቹን ሂጂና ፎግሪ :lol:

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11 Jun 2022, 14:42
Union biotch! Your As's can not protect your stinky self let alone others, You made history on others back mother, You Know really know what happened in1988, how many of you have been annihilated and met your maker . your bones are still strewn all over the border. Of course there is a price to pay when fighting with fire, but your leaders really know what happened and they would not want to repeat such kind of defeat. we do not boast or cry, we understand how the war chess is played, if unsuccessful and things do not go our way, we bide our time and complete our mission at our convinience.
Bitc'h mother stop crying, you haven't seen nothing yet !!! you haven't even told the poor mothers of the fallen where abouts of their children. That is how cheap your lives are . Motha !!!!

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Post by Right » 11 Jun 2022, 17:48

What is this nonsense about Feudalism?
A typical Abiye Ahmed’S stone head crowd.
The old system that you called feudalism administered and feed its own citizens better than your communism. You bunch of idiots you have been blabbering about capitalism and imperialistic America then but it is now home to all you opportunistic people.
Your system of land to the peasant devoid of any economic transition of an evolving society has produced millions of deaths by famine. Your theory of the freedom of tribes up to cessations has created a fragmented and broken society that knows only to fight among each other.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 11 Jun 2022, 18:23

The Derg regime, which Colonel Goshu was a part of, did some good, but let's be honest, the bad they did outweighed the good by far.
When you read about the Derg, or hear about them from family members who were there to witness its mismanagement of the country, have very few good things to say about it, but plenty of bad things to say. I can appreciate the literacy campaigns, the dismantling of the gabbar system, and other good things, but the Derg regime caused so much pain to the people and country, that we'd be unable to put into words how much they did.


The speech here is emotional and he appears sincere, but let's be honest, it's wishful thinking of an individual who lacks understanding of what the Eritreans, for example, wanted. They were not fighting for greater autonomy within Ethiopia, they were fighting for complete independence from the Ethiopian Empire, and even IF** they wanted to consider autonomy or a federal arrangement then, the derg and the emperor before the derg, destroyed any of those thoughts when their armies and militias carried out various atrocities in Eritrea.
It's almost similar to how Somaliland decided to separate from Somalia, while at point they were one country, because of the atrocities inflicted upon them by the Siad Barre regime.
Colonel Goshu having experience and wisdom, is not enough to warrant him being an adviser or whatever position some want him to have in today's Ethiopia. If his government and its policies failed then, it'd most likely fail now. The old days aren't good, in our countries case.

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Post by AbyssiniaLady » 11 Jun 2022, 18:44

Sadacha Macca homeless idiot

Somalia is intact, It is one country, Somali land is a northern region that is part and parcel of Somalia, Stop comparing independent country, Eritrea to a region that is part of Somalia.

https://www.mapsofworld.com/maps/world-map.jpg

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Post by Digital Weyane » 11 Jun 2022, 18:59

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 18:44
Sadacha Macca homeless idiot

Somalia is intact, It is one country, Somali land is a northern region that is part and parcel of Somalia, Stop comparing independent country, Eritrea to a region that is part of Somalia.

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ኡኛ በባንዳነታችን ተራሮችን ያንቀጠቀጥን ወያኔ ፡ የፈረንጆች ጌቶቻችንን ትእዛዝ ለማስፈፀም ሶማሊያን በሀይል በመውረር ፡ አገሪቱን በማተራመስ ፣ ንፁሃን ሰዎችን በመግደል ፡ ባለትዳር ሴቶችና ህፃናት ልጃገረዶችን በመድፈርና ንብረቶችን በመዝረፍ ባደረስነው የሚዘገንን ሰቆቃ ምክንያት ዛሬ ከወይዘሮ ካርማ ቅጣታችንን ኡየተቀበልን ነው።

ኡኛ ስማችን ከታች የተጠቀሰው ወያኔዎች ከልባችን ተፀፀተን ጥፋታችንን አምነን በእንባ ኡየታጠብን መሬት ላይ ተደፍተን የሶማሊያ ህዝብን ይቅርታ ኡንጠይቃለን። :cry: :cry:

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Post by Y3n3g3s3w » 11 Jun 2022, 19:06

Selam/ wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 14:38
Politics one thing, academics another. Goshu’s educational credentials & rhetorical skills are indeed unparalleled but he miserably failed when it comes to politics, military & management. He was part of the inner circle of the butcher of Ethiopia, Mengistu H Mariam. He left the country after the damage was already done, promising that he would lead & wage a gorilla war against Derg. While folks back home were expecting him to show up anytime via Sudan or Kenya, he completely disappeared ever since his departure until he resurfaced for the speech to congress. His speech was indeed brilliant & exceptional but it was too late & useless. To me the most brilliant statesman, diplomat & academician of all time is the late Aklilu Habtewold.

I feel the pain of our Eritrean brothers on this forum but remember that some of the commentators here are woyane weasels. I should however say that both Ethiopians & Eritreans paid the price for the lengthy & unnecessary war. Several thousand young military men/ women & civilians died, and the livelihood of many innocent people got permanently damaged. Any one who thinks one or the other side alone is to blame for the destruction is either dishonest or uninformed. There were cruel & crook politicians & military personnel on either side, who didn’t mind bombing civilians, destroying bridges or looting banks. But the most cruel atrocities in the history of the horn were committed by woyane thugs.



very wise words! Selam

These two groups calling themselves , on one side Eritrean and on the other Ethiopians antagonizing on this forum are either both super idiots or are both weyanes talking to each other. Do they even have an idea of how this 4 year old trust between the two countries , after a long long held hatred designed and ocastrated mostly by other countries outside of the two countries and ofcourse recently by their agent weyane, came about? how many lives of both citizens perished due to that hatred ? livelihoods destroyed ? i don't think so ! If it wasn't for the wise men of the two countries realizing that they are being outsmarted and played by others, this would have continued for another generation of Ethiopians and Eritrean . Is that what they are .nostalgic about now? Horus here just stated his admiration of Col Goshu Welde 's brilliance , velifying each other's country isn't even relevant here and won't take us anywhere but disaster.
That being said Col. Goshu is undeniably a world class mind . I remember at my very young age when he was foregn or education minister(not quite sure-i was young) but his name was an inspirational then. And i was, to be honest, so happy when PM Dr Abiy recognized his honesty and contribution while he was on tour in America . It was static, wasn't it for some? Well some are not happy and it is okay but should be a point to antagonize bitterly.

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Post by Sadacha Macca » 11 Jun 2022, 19:27

AbyssiniaLady wrote:
11 Jun 2022, 18:44
Sadacha Macca homeless idiot

Somalia is intact, It is one country, Somali land is a northern region that is part and parcel of Somalia, Stop comparing independent country, Eritrea to a region that is part of Somalia.

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Angry Agame Retarded Lady, You must have fell in Love with a Somali dude who got you pregnant, then proceeded to leave you because he didn't want to be seen with an Agame lady;

Somaliland is not recognized internationally, but for all intents and purposes, it is independent and their reasoning has been based on the crimes of siad barre in the north-and if you could comprehend, I said IT'S ALMOST SIMILAR, as in, it's not THE EXACT SAME SITUAITON, BUT IS SIMILAR.
Get it, agame lady?

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Post by AbyssiniaLady » 11 Jun 2022, 19:37

What do you know about Somalia? You are retarded and that is why you are homeless, go beg for money, junky homeless idiot.

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