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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by kibramlak » 06 Jun 2022, 09:10

Dear Zemen,

True, TPLF's negotiation needs is both tactical and strategical. There is nothing wrong with that. Because, that's their best bet as they were potentially be destined to be eradicated from the face of earth if it were not with the indecisive, asymptotic, coward, lair, and narcissistic Abiy who gave tplf every available chance to get organized and to lead offensives against poor farmers of Afar and Amhara. As of now, Abiy is the enemy of Ethiopia by exposing the Ethiopian population to this level of man made human tragedy and unmeasurable damages of properties that would take generations to recover from it. Many in Ethiopia have lost hope and faith in the prime misery Abiy Gragn Ahmed Ali. This is a man who hooked his ar#z with tplf, closed eyes on the child eater OLF aka orommuma, and at the same time went to attack fano, the very group which stood at protecting both the country and the region against the tplf criminals. One has to tell the facts straight. Is tplf still evil? Yes it is. But the most damage is being done by none other than the prime misery Abiy gragn Ahmed Ali of Beshasha


ZEMEN wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 14:29
I keep hearing ድርድር; ድርድር ድርድር. With what is going between Ethiopia and Tigray is exactly what was between Eritrea and TPLF. Eritreans they have concluded TPLF and Tigray never solved anything in ድርድር in their entire history i.e. The Eritreans believe TPLF and its ideology needs to completely eradicated, the end. Know I see people debating whether they’re going to be ድርድር. I say no what you have can’t be solved in ድርድር. There are two solutions to this….
One, going full scale war and eradicate TPLF once for all.
Two, for Abiy to get out of 4-kilo and let the TPLF lead Ethiopia.
Why can’t be ድርድር among many others Weqayt, the refusal of TPLF to be disarmed, the refusal of TPLF accepting a budget that represents its population. The list goes on but why are they fooling you with this ድርድር thing? Well for Abiy for diplomatic purpose, so his masters they wouldn’t bend him and for the sub-humans, buying time to get ready for war and to give their people hope this thing will be over. The Sub-humans are very worried their hungry people won’t eat them for dinner.
The moral of the story; if a Tigryan asked you for ድርድር that means he/she buying time the best time to kill you.


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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by ZEMEN » 06 Jun 2022, 09:32

kibramlak wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 09:10
Dear Zemen,

True, TPLF's negotiation needs is both tactical and strategical. There is nothing wrong with that. Because, that's their best bet as they were potentially be destined to be eradicated from the face of earth if it were not with the indecisive, asymptotic, coward, lair, and narcissistic Abiy who gave tplf every available chance to get organized and to lead offensives against poor farmers of Afar and Amhara. As of now, Abiy is the enemy of Ethiopia by exposing the Ethiopian population to this level of man made human tragedy and unmeasurable damages of properties that would take generations to recover from it. Many in Ethiopia have lost hope and faith in the prime misery Abiy Gragn Ahmed Ali. This is a man who hooked his ar#z with tplf, closed eyes on the child eater OLF aka orommuma, and at the same time went to attack fano, the very group which stood at protecting both the country and the region against the tplf criminals. One has to tell the facts straight. Is tplf still evil? Yes it is. But the most damage is being done by none other than the prime misery Abiy gragn Ahmed Ali of Beshasha


ZEMEN wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 14:29
I keep hearing ድርድር; ድርድር ድርድር. With what is going between Ethiopia and Tigray is exactly what was between Eritrea and TPLF. Eritreans they have concluded TPLF and Tigray never solved anything in ድርድር in their entire history i.e. The Eritreans believe TPLF and its ideology needs to completely eradicated, the end. Know I see people debating whether they’re going to be ድርድር. I say no what you have can’t be solved in ድርድር. There are two solutions to this….
One, going full scale war and eradicate TPLF once for all.
Two, for Abiy to get out of 4-kilo and let the TPLF lead Ethiopia.
Why can’t be ድርድር among many others Weqayt, the refusal of TPLF to be disarmed, the refusal of TPLF accepting a budget that represents its population. The list goes on but why are they fooling you with this ድርድር thing? Well for Abiy for diplomatic purpose, so his masters they wouldn’t bend him and for the sub-humans, buying time to get ready for war and to give their people hope this thing will be over. The Sub-humans are very worried their hungry people won’t eat them for dinner.
The moral of the story; if a Tigryan asked you for ድርድር that means he/she buying time the best time to kill you.

Yes sir, I agree with you! The reason Ethiopia is where Ethiopia is and the situation we are is because Abiy's priority. His number one priority is POWER the rest is secondary. When power becomes your priority, nothing matters. He pulled the federal army from Mekele, while the army about to finish the TPLF off, because he wants to make sure he is elected. If not, a country is not obligated to carry an election in the middle of war but hi did. He knows if he had to carry the election after the war, he can't predict the out come so, he strike while the iron is hot. He is extremely dangerous man.
Look what he did to FANO, he begged them to fight TPLF when TPLF was driving to Addis, once the danger to his power sustained, he going after FANO. Becouse in Abiy's head, the next power Challenger is Amara. everything he does is about his power.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by kibramlak » 06 Jun 2022, 10:12

Exactly ! For this reason, all concerned Ethiopians must focus on devising a strategy to stopping this individual and his primitive tribal elites from totally destroying the country and bringing a civil war of apocalyptic scale. This man would not hesitate to drink the blood of his own children if it meant that is the only option left to remain in power. As to the tplf war drama, they will do so now and then as long as Abiy is in power. There is no doubt that he aspires (pipe dream in fact) to sustain the existing situation for centuries if possible so that he and his primitive tribal elites can install their tribal hegemony. He can never be a solution. Thus, he has to go the soonest possible and let the respected elders of citizens make the transition to another election or political formulation.
ZEMEN wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 09:32
kibramlak wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 09:10
Dear Zemen,

True, TPLF's negotiation needs is both tactical and strategical. There is nothing wrong with that. Because, that's their best bet as they were potentially be destined to be eradicated from the face of earth if it were not with the indecisive, asymptotic, coward, lair, and narcissistic Abiy who gave tplf every available chance to get organized and to lead offensives against poor farmers of Afar and Amhara. As of now, Abiy is the enemy of Ethiopia by exposing the Ethiopian population to this level of man made human tragedy and unmeasurable damages of properties that would take generations to recover from it. Many in Ethiopia have lost hope and faith in the prime misery Abiy Gragn Ahmed Ali. This is a man who hooked his ar#z with tplf, closed eyes on the child eater OLF aka orommuma, and at the same time went to attack fano, the very group which stood at protecting both the country and the region against the tplf criminals. One has to tell the facts straight. Is tplf still evil? Yes it is. But the most damage is being done by none other than the prime misery Abiy gragn Ahmed Ali of Beshasha


ZEMEN wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 14:29
I keep hearing ድርድር; ድርድር ድርድር. With what is going between Ethiopia and Tigray is exactly what was between Eritrea and TPLF. Eritreans they have concluded TPLF and Tigray never solved anything in ድርድር in their entire history i.e. The Eritreans believe TPLF and its ideology needs to completely eradicated, the end. Know I see people debating whether they’re going to be ድርድር. I say no what you have can’t be solved in ድርድር. There are two solutions to this….
One, going full scale war and eradicate TPLF once for all.
Two, for Abiy to get out of 4-kilo and let the TPLF lead Ethiopia.
Why can’t be ድርድር among many others Weqayt, the refusal of TPLF to be disarmed, the refusal of TPLF accepting a budget that represents its population. The list goes on but why are they fooling you with this ድርድር thing? Well for Abiy for diplomatic purpose, so his masters they wouldn’t bend him and for the sub-humans, buying time to get ready for war and to give their people hope this thing will be over. The Sub-humans are very worried their hungry people won’t eat them for dinner.
The moral of the story; if a Tigryan asked you for ድርድር that means he/she buying time the best time to kill you.

Yes sir, I agree with you! The reason Ethiopia is where Ethiopia is and the situation we are is because Abiy's priority. His number one priority is POWER the rest is secondary. When power becomes your priority, nothing matters. He pulled the federal army from Mekele, while the army about to finish the TPLF off, because he wants to make sure he is elected. If not, a country is not obligated to carry an election in the middle of war but hi did. He knows if he had to carry the election after the war, he can't predict the out come so, he strike while the iron is hot. He is extremely dangerous man.
Look what he did to FANO, he begged them to fight TPLF when TPLF was driving to Addis, once the danger to his power sustained, he going after FANO. Becouse in Abiy's head, the next power Challenger is Amara. everything he does is about his power.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by ZEMEN » 06 Jun 2022, 12:24

kibramlak wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 10:12
Exactly ! For this reason, all concerned Ethiopians must focus on devising a strategy to stopping this individual and his primitive tribal elites from totally destroying the country and bringing a civil war of apocalyptic scale. This man would not hesitate to drink the blood of his own children if it meant that is the only option left to remain in power. As to the tplf war drama, they will do so now and then as long as Abiy is in power. There is no doubt that he aspires (pipe dream in fact) to sustain the existing situation for centuries if possible so that he and his primitive tribal elites can install their tribal hegemony. He can never be a solution. Thus, he has to go the soonest possible and let the respected elders of citizens make the transition to another election or political formulation.
ZEMEN wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 09:32
kibramlak wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 09:10
Dear Zemen,

True, TPLF's negotiation needs is both tactical and strategical. There is nothing wrong with that. Because, that's their best bet as they were potentially be destined to be eradicated from the face of earth if it were not with the indecisive, asymptotic, coward, lair, and narcissistic Abiy who gave tplf every available chance to get organized and to lead offensives against poor farmers of Afar and Amhara. As of now, Abiy is the enemy of Ethiopia by exposing the Ethiopian population to this level of man made human tragedy and unmeasurable damages of properties that would take generations to recover from it. Many in Ethiopia have lost hope and faith in the prime misery Abiy Gragn Ahmed Ali. This is a man who hooked his ar#z with tplf, closed eyes on the child eater OLF aka orommuma, and at the same time went to attack fano, the very group which stood at protecting both the country and the region against the tplf criminals. One has to tell the facts straight. Is tplf still evil? Yes it is. But the most damage is being done by none other than the prime misery Abiy gragn Ahmed Ali of Beshasha


ZEMEN wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 14:29
I keep hearing ድርድር; ድርድር ድርድር. With what is going between Ethiopia and Tigray is exactly what was between Eritrea and TPLF. Eritreans they have concluded TPLF and Tigray never solved anything in ድርድር in their entire history i.e. The Eritreans believe TPLF and its ideology needs to completely eradicated, the end. Know I see people debating whether they’re going to be ድርድር. I say no what you have can’t be solved in ድርድር. There are two solutions to this….
One, going full scale war and eradicate TPLF once for all.
Two, for Abiy to get out of 4-kilo and let the TPLF lead Ethiopia.
Why can’t be ድርድር among many others Weqayt, the refusal of TPLF to be disarmed, the refusal of TPLF accepting a budget that represents its population. The list goes on but why are they fooling you with this ድርድር thing? Well for Abiy for diplomatic purpose, so his masters they wouldn’t bend him and for the sub-humans, buying time to get ready for war and to give their people hope this thing will be over. The Sub-humans are very worried their hungry people won’t eat them for dinner.
The moral of the story; if a Tigryan asked you for ድርድር that means he/she buying time the best time to kill you.

Yes sir, I agree with you! The reason Ethiopia is where Ethiopia is and the situation we are is because Abiy's priority. His number one priority is POWER the rest is secondary. When power becomes your priority, nothing matters. He pulled the federal army from Mekele, while the army about to finish the TPLF off, because he wants to make sure he is elected. If not, a country is not obligated to carry an election in the middle of war but hi did. He knows if he had to carry the election after the war, he can't predict the out come so, he strike while the iron is hot. He is extremely dangerous man.
Look what he did to FANO, he begged them to fight TPLF when TPLF was driving to Addis, once the danger to his power sustained, he going after FANO. Becouse in Abiy's head, the next power Challenger is Amara. everything he does is about his power.
Absolutely second that. Here is my prediction and please your. There will be no ድርድር because TPLF will be collapse on its own weight unless If Abiy doesn’t come to save TPLF as usual. Or if something comes to jeopardizes Abiy’s power. So, if Abiy can play the weighting game, TPLF will eat each other out. TPLF and the people of Tigray are in a Life-threatening situation. Law and order are done and anarchism have reared its ugly head. Even now, the Tigryans are selling the food AID and medicines. Those people are genetically corrupted.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by kibramlak » 06 Jun 2022, 15:27

In my view, Abiy never wanted to finish off tplf. Jawar was not released with out purpose. He is openly placing himself as "envoyee"of the prime misery to bridge orommuma and tplf. Tplf was dead long ago but its surviving with the life support of the prime misery. Yes, tplf could be sized to ground zero by the tigray people as the life hardship tightens. Even under this circumstance, Abiy will help tplf to perpetually keep the region without peace

ZEMEN wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 12:24
Absolutely second that. Here is my prediction and please your. There will be no ድርድር because TPLF will be collapse on its own weight unless If Abiy doesn’t come to save TPLF as usual. Or if something comes to jeopardizes Abiy’s power. So, if Abiy can play the weighting game, TPLF will eat each other out. TPLF and the people of Tigray are in a Life-threatening situation. Law and order are done and anarchism have reared its ugly head. Even now, the Tigryans are selling the food AID and medicines. Those people are genetically corrupted.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by Ethoash » 06 Jun 2022, 20:14

kibramlak wrote:
06 Jun 2022, 15:27
In my view, Abiy never wanted to finish off tplf. Jawar was not released with out purpose. He is openly placing himself as "envoyee"of the prime misery to bridge orommuma and tplf. Tplf was dead long ago but its surviving with the life support of the prime misery. Yes, tplf could be sized to ground zero by the tigray people as the life hardship tightens. Even under this circumstance, Abiy will help tplf to perpetually keep the region without peace

you dont know war and politics

Friend or Foe exchange in matter of second
today you foe tomorrow can by your friend
promise never kept
war if fluid it change it shape many time over so if u don't know this blame yourself

Dr. Abiy as of now his best way out is to be friended the golden and distance the fano for this you can't blame him because this is how war goes.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by ethiopianunity » 06 Jun 2022, 20:54

Ethoash wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 17:22
Educator wrote:
03 Jun 2022, 16:53
I see a flaw in your logic. Is it possible to ask TPLF to disarm when every region is armed? I think the constitution vaguely allows the special forces of the regions. So it is impossible to ask Tigray to disarm. Second, Abiy and ENDF are military and economically weak and are negotiating to survive. Remember, if it was not for US, Woyanes would have removed Abiy and dismantled Ethiopia before they retread from Debrebirhan.

ክብር መምህር፣

እወነትም መምህር ፣ ስውዬ ሽንትቤት ወስጥ ወድቆ የእሳት አደጋ መጥቶ ሊያወጣው ሲል ፣ ወንድሙ የእሳት አደጋውን ክፍያ ይነግረዋል ። ሽንትቤት ውስጥ ሊስምጥ ያለው ሰውዬ ደግሞ ለወንድሙ ተክራከረው ዋጋ እንዲቀንስ።

ይህ ማለት ዶክተር አብይ ነው። መንገዱ ጠፍቶበት ዛሬ ከነገ አዲስ ይገባሉ ሲባል ነው እኮ ፣ እዴሜ ለአሜሪካ ከሞት አፋፍ የዳነው። ምድረ የአማራ ፕሬዘዳንቶች ሚላጭ ያለው በሚላጩ፣ ማጭድ ያለው በማጭዱ ፣ ዶላ ያለው በዱላው ታገሉ ብለው እነሱ የክልሉን ገንዘብ ዘርፈው እዲስ አበባ የፈረጠጡት ። ዶክተር አብይ ዝንባቡዬ ሄዶ አባቡትን እንዳይቀላቀል አሜሪካ መቃቅብ አርጋበት ነበር ። ታድያ ይምን ሞኝነት ነው ትግሬዎችን ጠምንጃ ፍቱ ጫዋታ ይልቁንስ ክክልላችቹሁ እትወጡ ሊላቸው ይችላል ጦሩን ለስላም ብቻ ተጥቀሙ ሊላቸው ይችላል ብዙ አንገብጋቢ ነገሮች አሉ ሁለቱንም ይሚያግባባ ስልዚህ ድርድሩ አልቆዋል ኤርትራኖች ብቻ ናቸው ይሄ ድርድርን ይሚጠሉት ልምን ቢባል ትግሬአዎች አስመራ መሄዳቸው አይቀርም ኤርትራ የጦር ካሳ ካልክፈልች
Etoass,

What are you telling one of your propaganda? Are you saying Aby is rescued by U.S? If that is the case, he is indebted more giving away benefits will be done.

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Re: ድርድር is nothing but tactical.

Post by ZEMEN » 10 Jun 2022, 14:32

Well well well: the sub-humans dropped Welqayt. Now let's disarm them and give them the rotten wheat. There is no way Amara going to let welqayt go, no way.

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