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[eden]

[Tog Wajale E.R.]

This Guy Rubbish 🗑 Garbage 🗑 Scum*bags Prostit*ute Akeleguzai Agga*me So Called Intellectual. Tell Him To Take Hike , Eritrea Is For Pure Eritrean And Run By Mighty Pure Eritrean Hamassien People Whether You Like It Or Not.

[Dawi]

eden,

"Equality by subtraction" is very interesting; Gebre has fallen for that. Sad to say, it gave one a clue of his relationship to TPLF. Such view took away some credibility from him. I always felt his view on Shaebia was always fascinating and to the point. He has a brilliant mind who respects his own culture; So, I have to admit that, chances are, he may still be on the money when it comes to EPLF. I shall also add, what he says of EPLF in issues of Ethiopian culture, applies to OLF of Ethiopia. Ha! Ha!

What Gebre and Tedi (Reyot Media) & others forget is, TPLF's wealth was all ill gotten therefore, most Ethiopians/Eritreans today, look at Mekele as something assembled at the expense of the ordinary Ethiopians/Eritreans. By over all, don't have a respect for it.

The fact that TPLF kept 1.2 million Tigreans in perpetual food aid for the past 30 years while they were in power, building a glittery city is shameful for one.

So, no one cares if Mekele is equal to Beshasha or lower to it today.

Only those Tigaru intellectuals, who were past beneficiaries of TPLF system feel hurt by Abiy's statement comparing & degrading Mekele to Bishasha. The rest of us don't give a hoot & understand what Abiy meant when he spoke, of that TPLF's piece of work making it a degraded City.

Having said that, we repeat, TPLF was the culprit of the situation in Mekele so don't blame anybody else. Dr. Abiy/p2 practically begged TPLF to behave but, they went on and started a war they can't win.

[Blueshift]

I never ever had agreed with Yosief standing on any political issues, however, his analysis whether it is political or military, he is always on target. He is a better writer than speaker.

[Cigar]

The guy is an idiot and stupid. And the media which invited such embecil is even dumber than him.
How the hell can he say that PMAA is making the Amhara as his buffer zone.
If he thinks the federal ethio troops won't go to the Amhara region and help it to destroy any enemy which crosses its territories, then he is out of his minds.
Well like I always say, let the rag tag tigray militia try to cross to the Amhara or Eritrean territories thinking the ethio troops are done and see what kind of bricks will fall on the agames.
And any one who believes the ethio troops left the barren defeated tigray, then got to be an idiot.
If tplf won, why stop at tigray? Why not chase the defeated ethio army all the way to Arat kilo and sit there?
Man, how stupid is this freaking guy for being an Eritrea at least the agames got low IQ and might believe it.
And he needs to go to some speech therapy classes and stop making it appear as if he can't speak Amharic. He freaking was living in Ethiopia.
GTFO.

[TGAA]

eden,

"Equality by subtraction" is very interesting; Gebre has fallen for that. Sad to say, it gave one a clue of his relationship to TPLF. Such view took away some credibility from him. I always felt his view on Shaebia was always fascinating and to the point. He has a brilliant mind who respects his own culture; So, I have to admit that, chances are, he may still be on the money when it comes to EPLF. I shall also add, what he says of EPLF in issues of Ethiopian culture, applies to OLF of Ethiopia. Ha! Ha!

What Gebre and Tedi (Reyot Media) & others forget is, TPLF's wealth was all ill gotten therefore, most Ethiopians/Eritreans today, look at Mekele as something assembled at the expense of the ordinary Ethiopians/Eritreans. By over all, don't have a respect for it.

The fact that TPLF kept 1.2 million Tigreans in perpetual food aid for the past 30 years while they were in power, building a glittery city is shameful for one.

So, no one cares if Mekele is equal to Beshasha or lower to it today.

Only those Tigaru intellectuals, who were past beneficiaries of TPLF system feel hurt by Abiy's statement comparing & degrading Mekele to Bishasha. The rest of us don't give a hoot & understand what Abiy meant when he spoke, of that TPLF's piece of work making it a degraded City.

Having said that, we repeat, TPLF was the culprit of the situation in Mekele so don't blame anybody else. Dr. Abiy/p2 practically begged TPLF to behave but, they went on and started a war they can't win.

Eden , you hit the nail on the head. Yosief is a prolific writer for sure , but he seems to see everything only from Shabia angle and what is good for Eritrea. He hoped and pushed weyanes to dislodge Issyas. So weyane unceremonial departure from power and their downward spiral to self-destruct didn't bode well for him. Not only that he is completely oblivious about 104 million Ethiopians who have been under the iron grip of Weyanes for 27 years . When he was asked to point out what the weyanes miscalculation --- of thousands of things he could have pointed out-- he zeroed in about Weyanes nostalgic view of shabia while the same kind of feeling wasn't reciprocated by shabia. I have a feeling he might have a sympathetic view of Grater Tigray . Also, his vocabularies and how he describes Ethiopia and its main problems are identical with Weyeanes. He really articulates his point of view and I like his analysis but as a philosopher, I expected he would have more of a bird's eye view of the problems facing the reign.

[Noble Amhara]

one thing i learned from this agame is Tegedelai is not native to tigray rather it is a Socialist Eritrean Warfare Term that has wrongly been brought into tigrai. the real historic culture of Habeshas before european colonization and socialist poisonings is Arbegnanet or Harbegnanet .

this agame doesnt understand Dialogue has never worked with TPLF

its either my way or the highway.

you do not dialogue with some one u hate already edoo

[eden]

BlueShift

his tigrigna speaking is terrific though. I liked his other articulation about 'identity by subtraction. I also liked his description of PFDJ and followers as no ears human beings who don't know dialogue but monologue. This perfectly describes ER forum hgdef folks.


Dawi

I know what you mean. I saw this like a decade early and warned TPLF (and EPLF) to devolve power away from Tegaru (and Eri Tegaru). You can search it. I can look it up for you if you ask.

But Yosef is making a good point. Make it equal by elevating areas that are behind instead of subtracting is normal.


TGAA

One thing Yosef is different from advocates of Abay Tigray is he cares equally for the non Eri Tegaru population as he cares for Eri Tegaru. His focus on EPLF is not personal but his belief that EPLF is the entity responsible for the continuation of the (Italian) colonial project of uprooting population and enslaving inside Eritrea which he thinks is affecting the region including Ethiopia.

[TGAA]

Well, what I am saying is that he cares about the two Tigrians both Eritreans and Tigrians but he doesn't seem to care what is going on with the rest of Ethiopian or Ethiopians. For him Amharas are the people who don't want a federated Ethiopia, and that the right of Amharas that was usurped by Weyanes when they came to power is not an issue of concern -- he explains it away simply as if it is done just to corner Tigrians so --=I found his analysis to be a typical Weyane analysis, I expected a better frame of analysis that matches his intellectual caliber. When he talks about Eritrea everything presented as one nation and one people but in Ethiopia, he has to go into tribal politics to explain events. Intellectual integrity requires having a standard of analysis that is applicable to all issues of concern. When he uses a different kind of analysis to the same set of issues, then you know he is not philosophizing but politicking.

[Blueshift]

Lake and TGAA,
I said I don't like what he stands for. Here it comes. He regards himself as Ethiopian not Eritrean. Other than that, he is a very good analyst.

[eden]

When he talks about Eritrea everything presented as one nation and one people but in Ethiopia, he has to go into tribal politics to explain events

He is just reflecting what's on the ground. In Ethiopia, there's OLF, TPLF, ONLF, SLF, GPLF, ...

In Eritrea, there's nothing like it. It's not him, it's the reality he sees. By the way, you are hung on Weyane but it's not only Weyane that is "tribal" but many are in Ethiopia. Weyane is younger than some so this is more than one liberation front that's organized around nationality.

My criticism of him is that I think his weakness is he doesn't emphasize enough to differentiate between the Amara people and those Amara politicians that are anti multinational federal arrangement. I hear his tigrigna interviews and I cringe every time he mentions Amara. I know he does it for brevity but it still bothers me to listen to.

Other than that I find him a towering figure. By the way, it benefit everyone including Amara people if the two Tegaru make up. But many think otherwise and they work hard to keep them apart.

[TGAA]

When he talks about Eritrea everything presented as one nation and one people but in Ethiopia, he has to go into tribal politics to explain events

He is just reflecting what's on the ground. In Ethiopia, there's OLF, TPLF, ONLF, SLF, GPLF, ...

In Eritrea, there's nothing like it. It's not him, it's the reality he sees. By the way, you are hung on Weyane but it's not only Weyane that is "tribal" but many are in Ethiopia. Weyane is younger than some so this is more than one liberation front that's organized around nationality.

My criticism of him is that I think his weakness is he doesn't emphasize enough to differentiate between the Amara people and those Amara politicians that are anti multinational federal arrangement. I hear his tigrigna interviews and I cringe every time he mentions Amara. I know he does it for brevity but it still bothers me to listen to.

Other than that I find him a towering figure. By the way, it benefit everyone including Amara people if the two Tegaru make up. But many think otherwise and they work hard to keep them apart.

I don't think Amharas are working hard to keep the two apart. After the Ethio--Eritrea war on both sides of the border the Tagaru were in charge -- it is in those times Amhara was relegated as a second citizen in Ethiopia by Weyanes making them an enemy of the "nation and nationality of Ethiopia". So their coming together is not their concern but how and for what purpose they are coming together. Initially, Eritrean and Tigrian were together than when their relation fall off a cliff, and both Amharas and Erireans became the victims of Weyane's shenanigans, they started to look at each other as a victims. so there is a measure of understanding between the two. If there is goodwill and honesty --making up broken relationships and putting their relationship at an elevated place would be beneficial to all; No doubt, but given our sordid history of backstabbing there are home works each one of us has to do before we come to a table --to finally come out as winners.

[Dawi]

I don't think Amharas are working hard to keep the two apart. After the Ethio--Eritrea war on both sides of the border the Tagaru were in charge -- it is in those times Amhara was relegated as a second citizen in Ethiopia by Weyanes making them an enemy of the "nation and nationality of Ethiopia". So their coming together is not their concern but how and for what purpose they are coming together. Initially, Eritrean and Tigrian were together than when their relation fall off a cliff, and both Amharas and Erireans became the victims of Weyane's shenanigans, they started to look at each other as a victims. so there is a measure of understanding between the two. If there is goodwill and honesty --making up broken relationships and putting their relationship at an elevated place would be beneficial to all; No doubt, but given our sordid history of backstabbing there are home works each one of us has to do before we come to a table --to finally come out as winners.

TGAA,

I think the lately coming together of Eritreans and Amhara is natural/organic. Amhara has ancient history of integrating with others while building Greater Ethiopia for centuries. Tigreans were junior partners in that venture particularly when it comes to the 19 - 20th century Ethiopian State. Tigreans may have resentment of the way Ethiopia evolved as a nation for some reason.

Eritreans in the last 40 or so years were seriously working in building a multi ethnic Eritrea and more or less have succeeded. Tigrai on the other hand, was left out because TPLF was busy building the ill designed "ethnic federation". Tigrai has fallen to the trap of primarily backwards "ethnic" identity politics'.

So now, TPLF and PFDJ speak different languages. PFDJ has more in common with the Amhara and feel the Amhara pain dearly. Amhara and Eritreans do not have fake relationship any more.

Bottom line, speaking Tigrigna language doesn't mean anything to Eritreans. They hate "ethnic federation" as much as Ethiopian nationalists.

[Noble Amhara]

Amhara doesn’t Negotiate with Eritrean Government. Or Isaias Afwerki there is nothing to negotiate in fact that is violating another countries government right to responsibility and control of its independence and cultural nationalism . We see very well how agame failed in their diplomatic ties with their Eritrean masters and now rising Amhara master.

The road that Amhara and Eritrea government is z same whether u like it or not. Tarik also can confirm this

[TGAA]

A prolific writer, yes but a Philsoper No. He is a politician and he goal alines well with weyanes than Issyas. While weyanes were in power he never criticized the Ethnic system that was a seat on place by weyanes. His philosophy if there is one was the British coined agenda of Greater Tigray, and he see Issyas as an obstacle to achieving that end. His weyane analysis of the ethnicities in Ethiopia is copy and past of weyane propaganda. He was an active participant in weyane think-tank called " peace institute " which was led by none other than oboy sebhat nega . He used to advocate for Ethiopia to invade Eritrea and get rid of Issyas. " equality by subtraction" is not a uniquely Eritrean issue -- since that was exactly weyanes has done to other nationalities in Ethiopia, particularly against Amharas. So Yosef is not a philosopher in search of truth but a political junky with clear political agenda, similar to wyeane's.

[Asmara]

BlueShift

his tigrigna speaking is terrific though. I liked his other articulation about 'identity by subtraction. I also liked his description of PFDJ and followers as no ears human beings who don't know dialogue but monologue. This perfectly describes ER forum hgdef folks.


Dawi

I know what you mean. I saw this like a decade early and warned TPLF (and EPLF) to devolve power away from Tegaru (and Eri Tegaru). You can search it. I can look it up for you if you ask.

But Yosef is making a good point. Make it equal by elevating areas that are behind instead of subtracting is normal.


TGAA

One thing Yosef is different from advocates of Abay Tigray is he cares equally for the non Eri Tegaru population as he cares for Eri Tegaru. His focus on EPLF is not personal but his belief that EPLF is the entity responsible for the continuation of the (Italian) colonial project of uprooting population and enslaving inside Eritrea which he thinks is affecting the region including Ethiopia.

A guy (ኣግኣዝያን ወይድማ ግዖዘያን I may add ) who labelled Eritrean 30 year struggle as banditry (ሽፍትነት) - insult to our 65k martyrs - has no moral ground to say or comment anything about Eritrea/Eritreans or PFDJ. His followers are the likes of Eden and her Agazian brothers and sisters.