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Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 06 Apr 2022, 19:43

Any attack on Tigrayans in Western Tigray will have to be responded with attacks somewhere in Amhara region in South or Central Ethiopia like Wello. TDF should prepare army units to kill Amara expansionists. The amara have no capacity to win any war against Tigray. Once Tigray controls, Welqait and Tselemti, then every thing becomes easier as Tigray has access to Sudan and International Markets. TDF should march to Eritrea to overthrow Issayas because he is providing training and logistics to Amara expansionists. Tigray should distance from Eritreans and no Eritrean should be a member of the policy making body for obvious reasons. Debreascari Gebrebanda and others could not lead Tigray because they are from Eritrea . They can sabotage Tigray. The best thing to retire Debrascari Gebrebanda and his friends. We need a popular resistance led by Tigray elites.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Tiago » 06 Apr 2022, 20:08

Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”, is a law of propaganda often attributed to the Nazi Joseph Goebbels. Among psychologists something like this known as the “illusion of truth” effect.


..and the ancient axumite called it "western Tigraye???". :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: At least once in your pathetic life tell the truth.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 07 Apr 2022, 02:39

The name was Wolqait and Tselemti. This area was under Aksumite Kingdom so as Gonder, Lake Tana, Gojamme. Raya was also under Aksumite Kingdomas archeological evidences. The people living in Raya speak 98% Tigrigna and those in Western Tigray speak Tigrigna to over 95% of the population.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 07 Apr 2022, 03:01

Welkait (also spelled Wolkait or Wolqayt; Tigrinya: ወልቃይት) is a district or woreda in the Western zone of the Tigray Region in Ethiopia. As a consequence of the Tigray War, Welkait is currently administered as part of the Amhara Region. This woreda is bordered to the north by Humera and to the south by Tsegede.[1] It is bordered on the east by the North West Zone; the woredas of Tahtay Adiyabo and Asgede Tsimbla lie to the north-east, on the other side of the Tekezé River, and Tselemti to the east. The administrative center of Welkait is Addi Remets; other towns in the woreda include Mai'gaba and Awura.

The 1994 national census reported a total population for this woreda of 90,186, of whom 45,657 were men and 44,529 were women; 4,597 or 5.1% of its population were urban dwellers. The ethnic groups reported in Welkait are Tigray (96.58%), Amhara (3.03%); and all other ethnic groups made up only 0.39% of the population. Tigrinya is spoken as a major language by 97.14%, and 2.75% speak Amharic[citation needed]; the remaining 0.11% spoke all other primary languages reported. 96.75% of the population said they were Ethiopian Orthodox Christians, and 3.09% were Muslim


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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by tekeba » 07 Apr 2022, 04:18

Ethioredsea, one word for you DEDEB

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 07 Apr 2022, 04:25

tekeba wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 04:18
Ethioredsea, one word for you DEDEB
Tekeba, my Dog, stop insulting me. Get arguments that support any statement. I have given you evidence.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 07 Apr 2022, 08:21

Tiago wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 03:28
THIS IS THE TRUTH>


He is a liar. He was not TPLF member. He is an Amara from Gojamme according to a person who knows his family. He is like Gebru Asrat, a Gojamme pretending to be from Tigray. There was power abuse and corruption in TPLF. TPLF was not perfect. But the comments of this ignorant man are out of proportion. It is very surprizing such Guys like this person, Aregawi Berhe etc do not condemn the genocide against Tigrayan people. Aregawi Berhe in fact is facilitating the genocide of Tigray people.Gebru Asrat does not condemn the genocide of Tigray people etc. What an idiot! a donkey Amara African Bantu

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Selam/ » 07 Apr 2022, 08:47

Kichamo - I don’t blame you that 30years feel like ancient to you. You’re stuck between hard rock & boulder, so you will get smaller & older by the day. Prove me the existence of Tigray during Axumite kingdom & I will buy you a corn stick for dinner. KIFFU!
EthioRedSea wrote:
06 Apr 2022, 19:43
Any attack on Tigrayans in Western Tigray will have to be responded with attacks somewhere in Amhara region in South or Central Ethiopia like Wello. TDF should prepare army units to kill Amara expansionists. The amara have no capacity to win any war against Tigray. Once Tigray controls, Welqait and Tselemti, then every thing becomes easier as Tigray has access to Sudan and International Markets. TDF should march to Eritrea to overthrow Issayas because he is providing training and logistics to Amara expansionists. Tigray should distance from Eritreans and no Eritrean should be a member of the policy making body for obvious reasons. Debreascari Gebrebanda and others could not lead Tigray because they are from Eritrea . They can sabotage Tigray. The best thing to retire Debrascari Gebrebanda and his friends. We need a popular resistance led by Tigray elites.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Selam/ » 07 Apr 2022, 08:51

Kichamo - When a Tigrean criticizes woyane rats, you automatically deny his/her Tigrean identity. I don’t think there are any other people out there as rigid & dense as Agames & North Koreans. KIFFU!
EthioRedSea wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 08:21
Tiago wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 03:28
THIS IS THE TRUTH>


He is a liar. He was not TPLF member. He is an Amara from Gojamme according to a person who knows his family. He is like Gebru Asrat, a Gojamme pretending to be from Tigray. There was power abuse and corruption in TPLF. TPLF was not perfect. But the comments of this ignorant man are out of proportion. It is very surprizing such Guys like this person, Aregawi Berhe etc do not condemn the genocide against Tigrayan people. Aregawi Berhe in fact is facilitating the genocide of Tigray people.Gebru Asrat does not condemn the genocide of Tigray people etc. What an idiot! a donkey Amara African Bantu

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Abere » 07 Apr 2022, 10:07

ትግሬዎች ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለሸቀል ስራ መጥቶ በመስራት እንጅ የእርስት ባለቤት ሁነው አያውቅም። በድርቅና ወያኔ ሰርቆ ባላበት የሆነውን የአማራ ህዝብ በመጨፍጨፍ እና ትግሬን አምጥቶ በማስፈር የኔነው በማለት የሚሆን ነገር የለም። ይበልጥ የወደፊቱ ትግሬ ትውልድ ተቀጥሮ ሸቅሎ እንዳይበላ ማድረግ ነው። ትግሬዎች በዘመነኛው ፈሊጥ ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለአካባቢው ህዝብ መጤዎች ናቸው። እናንተ ህልመኛ የወያኔ ተከፋይ ጠብ ያለሽ በዳቦ አይነቶች ለትግሬዎች ዕዳ አትሁኑባቸው። ሲቸግራቸው የሚሸሹበት፥ ሰርተው የሚበሉበት ጎረቤት አታሳጧቸው።

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 07 Apr 2022, 11:09

Abere wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 10:07
ትግሬዎች ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለሸቀል ስራ መጥቶ በመስራት እንጅ የእርስት ባለቤት ሁነው አያውቅም። በድርቅና ወያኔ ሰርቆ ባላበት የሆነውን የአማራ ህዝብ በመጨፍጨፍ እና ትግሬን አምጥቶ በማስፈር የኔነው በማለት የሚሆን ነገር የለም። ይበልጥ የወደፊቱ ትግሬ ትውልድ ተቀጥሮ ሸቅሎ እንዳይበላ ማድረግ ነው። ትግሬዎች በዘመነኛው ፈሊጥ ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለአካባቢው ህዝብ መጤዎች ናቸው። እናንተ ህልመኛ የወያኔ ተከፋይ ጠብ ያለሽ በዳቦ አይነቶች ለትግሬዎች ዕዳ አትሁኑባቸው። ሲቸግራቸው የሚሸሹበት፥ ሰርተው የሚበሉበት ጎረቤት አታሳጧቸው።
Tigrayans were rulingbEthiopia. Twedros is a Tigrayan. Only Menelik is from South. The Gondar kings were Tigrayans. Gonder or [deleted] part of Tigray and Agew. After Menelik took power, there were some problems in Tigray, where farmers could not plow their lands. Menelik took Western Tigray and put under Amara Bantus. Further, Haile Selassie, took away South Wello from Tigray.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Abere » 07 Apr 2022, 11:36

The name "Tigray" becomes into being very lately. The oldest name was "Agame", which is an Awuraja in the present day of Tigray province. Tigray was made out of contributions of lands from adjacent areas of Agew, Afar, and Amara, Erob, Kunama, Eritrea, etc. Thus, there is no territoiry as such to properly named as Tigray. There had never been such a geographic entity going by this name. That is why it is failing to exist now and unbale to take a geographic shape. Yohannes tried to annex parts of Amahra lands of Wollo where he had been facing firece revolt and failure to collect tax from Raya people until his death; and since the late 1990s TPLF also tried to annex more Amhara lands, but could not see a single peaceful day, becuase the Amhara people fought back for over 3 decades- becoming wrost nightmare for illegal occupier of the fakel created "Tigray". Thus, Tigray is like an artifical cloud or artficial rain only created in the minds of the inferiority riddent thugs since recent time;otherwise, there is nothing in our longest history named Tigray.
EthioRedSea wrote:
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Tigrayans were rulingbEthiopia. Twedros is a Tigrayan. Only Menelik is from South. The Gondar kings were Tigrayans. Gonder or [deleted] part of Tigray and Agew. After Menelik took power, there were some problems in Tigray, where farmers could not plow their lands. Menelik took Western Tigray and put under Amara Bantus. Further, Haile Selassie, took away South Wello from Tigray.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 07 Apr 2022, 13:45

Abere wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 11:36
The name "Tigray" becomes into being very lately. The oldest name was "Agame", which is an Awuraja in the present day of Tigray province. Tigray was made out of contributions of lands from adjacent areas of Agew, Afar, and Amara, Erob, Kunama, Eritrea, etc. Thus, there is no territoiry as such to properly named as Tigray. There had never been such a geographic entity going by this name. That is why it is failing to exist now and unbale to take a geographic shape. Yohannes tried to annex parts of Amahra lands of Wollo where he had been facing firece revolt and failure to collect tax from Raya people until his death; and since the late 1990s TPLF also tried to annex more Amhara lands, but could not see a single peaceful day, becuase the Amhara people fought back for over 3 decades- becoming wrost nightmare for illegal occupier of the fakel created "Tigray". Thus, Tigray is like an artifical cloud or artficial rain only created in the minds of the inferiority riddent thugs since recent time;otherwise, there is nothing in our longest history named Tigray.
EthioRedSea wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 11:09

Tigrayans were rulingbEthiopia. Twedros is a Tigrayan. Only Menelik is from South. The Gondar kings were Tigrayans. Gonder or [deleted] part of Tigray and Agew. After Menelik took power, there were some problems in Tigray, where farmers could not plow their lands. Menelik took Western Tigray and put under Amara Bantus. Further, Haile Selassie, took away South Wello from Tigray.
The greedy Tiger people are never satisfied even if one offers them the entire world. All they see is what you have and be furiously jealous than being thankful of what they have. They ruled Ethiopia with iron fist for three decades, looted the whole country bone dry and finally lost it all. They are super emotional creatures who are only after immediate gratification than thinking strategically. Their way of reasoning and false postulation will only be a vehicle to their own demise. Within one year, because of the unnecessary war they ignited, they lost almost 10% of their population and, they have not learned anything yet.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by bighamasien » 07 Apr 2022, 14:01

Welkait and Raya are Amhara. Tigrayan is not an ethnicity.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Digital Weyane » 07 Apr 2022, 14:22

ኡኛ ተጋሩ የኛን አንሰጥም የሌላም አንፈልግም። ጁንታው <<ምዕራብ ትግራይ>> የሚላቸውን ወልቃይት፣ ጠገዴ፤ ሰቲት ሁመራ፣ ጠለምትና ራያ መሬቶች የአማራ ግዛት ናቸው። ይህንን ሃቅ ኡንኳን ኡኛ ተጋሩ አህዮቻችን ኡንኳን ሳይቀሩ ያውቁታል። :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Selam/ » 07 Apr 2022, 14:32

Kichamo - Don’t utter the name “Theodros” again with your inferior & filthy Banda mouth. That African Hero (with capital “H”) has nothing to do with worada woyanes who hate Ethiopia & wouldn’t mind bartering every inch of Her to foreign bidders. KIFFU!
EthioRedSea wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 11:09
Abere wrote:
07 Apr 2022, 10:07
ትግሬዎች ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለሸቀል ስራ መጥቶ በመስራት እንጅ የእርስት ባለቤት ሁነው አያውቅም። በድርቅና ወያኔ ሰርቆ ባላበት የሆነውን የአማራ ህዝብ በመጨፍጨፍ እና ትግሬን አምጥቶ በማስፈር የኔነው በማለት የሚሆን ነገር የለም። ይበልጥ የወደፊቱ ትግሬ ትውልድ ተቀጥሮ ሸቅሎ እንዳይበላ ማድረግ ነው። ትግሬዎች በዘመነኛው ፈሊጥ ወልቃይት-ሁመራ እና ራያን ለአካባቢው ህዝብ መጤዎች ናቸው። እናንተ ህልመኛ የወያኔ ተከፋይ ጠብ ያለሽ በዳቦ አይነቶች ለትግሬዎች ዕዳ አትሁኑባቸው። ሲቸግራቸው የሚሸሹበት፥ ሰርተው የሚበሉበት ጎረቤት አታሳጧቸው።
Tigrayans were rulingbEthiopia. Twedros is a Tigrayan. Only Menelik is from South. The Gondar kings were Tigrayans. Gonder or [deleted] part of Tigray and Agew. After Menelik took power, there were some problems in Tigray, where farmers could not plow their lands. Menelik took Western Tigray and put under Amara Bantus. Further, Haile Selassie, took away South Wello from Tigray.

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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by Tiago » 08 Apr 2022, 00:49

#TPLF founder Aregawi Berhe admits to wrongful & illegal annexation of territories including #Welkait & #Raya from historic #Amhara provinces of #Begemidir (#Gondar) & #Wollo to the modern #Tigray region.



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Re: Western Tigray and Raya are part and parcel of Tigray since the ancient Aksumite Kingdom

Post by EthioRedSea » 08 Apr 2022, 02:30

Aregawi Berhie is from Eritrea. His name is Berihu. He is like Bereket Simeon and Meles Zenawi. Raya has been always part of Tigray . Western Tigray is inhabited to 98% by Tigrigna speakers. Thus Tigrayan. Some of you cite Mengesha Seyoum. He will not tell you the truth because he knows you will kill him so has to lie to save his life. We do not mind if he cheats the Amara by telling them what they want to hear. The war in Western Tigray decides who owns Ethiopia including Gonder, Ras Dejen, Gojam, Bahir Dar ( which was founded by Tigrayans like St. Yared)

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