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can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2022, 09:11

I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Wedi » 08 Feb 2022, 10:53

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
I have heard from Ethio 360 either Ermias or Habtamu, one of them said "Abiy Ahmed told one of his top official and "friend", I do not want totally to eradicate TPLF". This clearly shows that Abiy Ahmed wants TPLF to exist, kill Ethiopians and destroy their resources. This also proves that the war is FAKE.
Didn't you know this fact too. Abiy Ahmed sent a plane load more than 10 Billion Birr to Tigray on the evening of the war broken?

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Re: can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2022, 11:07

Wedi wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 10:53
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
I have heard from Ethio 360 either Ermias or Habtamu, one of them said "Abiy Ahmed told one of his top official and "friend", I do not want totally to eradicate TPLF". This clearly shows that Abiy Ahmed wants TPLF to exist, kill Ethiopians and destroy their resources. This also proves that the war is FAKE.
Didn't you know this fact too. Abiy Ahmed sent a plane load more than 10 Billion Birr to Tigray on the evening of the war broken?
Wedi, i am really confused!!! then why sacrifice people's live, nations economy, individuals suffering? why? So, what is the reason for Abiy not to want eradicate the sub-humans? what is gaining from the existence of TPLF? I don't get it?

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Re: can you help?

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2022, 11:09

Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Abere » 08 Feb 2022, 11:16

The whole situation happening in Ethiopia informs one clear thing: the country has totally failed but the people have not yet, Afar and Amhara are keeping the country breathing sacrificing their precious lives and life time earned properties. Simply, two powers 1) TPLF and 2) PP-OLF each having Defense Force already made it clear the country has no owner. Each are minding their own separate motives. If Abiy Ahmed were an Ethiopian prime minster and has Ethiopian Defense force there would be no logic under the sun that should let Tigray to have its own Defense Force the same or exceedingly better armed, finance, and organized as the National Defense Force of the country, which Abiy Ahmed the commander in chief of the army. But no body believe now ENDF is Ethiopian Defense Force nor it actually exists, because it is hijacked by OLF, which is TPLF's alliance. Thus, the plight of Afar and Amhara is what is needed most by Abiy Ahmed, so he will keep it more intense. As to me, the country is in total anarchy, has no political leader, no sovereignty. Hope justice will be delivered both to TPLF and PP-OLF. They don't deserve to exist.

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?

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Re: can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2022, 11:25

Abere wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:16
The whole situation happening in Ethiopia informs one clear thing: the country has totally failed but the people have not yet, Afar and Amhara are keeping the country breathing sacrificing their precious lives and life time earned properties. Simply, two powers 1) TPLF and 2) PP-OLF each having Defense Force already made it clear the country has no owner. Each are minding their own separate motives. If Abiy Ahmed were an Ethiopian prime minster and has Ethiopian Defense force there would be no logic under the sun that should let Tigray to have its own Defense Force the same or exceedingly better armed, finance, and organized as the National Defense Force of the country, which Abiy Ahmed the commander in chief of the army. But no body believe now ENDF is Ethiopian Defense Force nor it actually exists, because it is hijacked by OLF, which is TPLF's alliance. Thus, the plight of Afar and Amhara is what is needed most by Abiy Ahmed, so he will keep it more intense. As to me, the country is in total anarchy, has no political leader, no sovereignty. Hope justice will be delivered both to TPLF and PP-OLF. They don't deserve to exist.

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
This is an absolute Egregious act and the ultimate dis-respect of the people and dare of duty at the highest order. This is Fk-up. Where are the likes of Demeqe and endargachew?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Noble Amhara » 08 Feb 2022, 11:25

Are you actually Eritrean?

Becuase if you are then leave us the fck alone u ferenji go back to asmara.
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?

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Re: can you help?

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2022, 12:05

Nobel Agame aka Present Qomal

Let the Amaras respond, you are certified Agame that everyone knows since your day of Belaynesh.

Now, why are you agames keep targeting the Afaris?

Noble Amhara wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:25
Are you actually Eritrean?

Becuase if you are then leave us the fck alone u ferenji go back to asmara.
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Abere » 08 Feb 2022, 12:21

<...Where are the likes of Demeqe..?> :lol: He and his likes are puppies of PP-OLF, they are running after their bones/benefits/. They have been like that since time of TPLF, just like fluid they take after the shape of their container. To begin with, Amhara region officials are unelected, the Amhara people don not even know them. Amhara officials during TPLF time were appointed by the dead Melese Zenawi and sent to them; now in PP-OLF time, OLF Abiy Ahmed directly appoints and sends them. If he thinks they are against his order he will kill them. He killed Dr. Ambachew and Asaminew Tsige, because he feared them. So, Demeke Mekonnen is just a house maid.

Do you know that the Tigre TPLF Abraham Belay ,who is Defense Minster, has more power and influence than the sheepish Demeke Mekonnen. For me, Demeke Mekonnen is a She sheep, he is not even a he sheep. He should resign effective from his house maid job.


ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:25
This is an absolute Egregious act and the ultimate dis-respect of the people and dare of duty at the highest order. This is Fk-up. Where are the likes of Demeqe and endargachew?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 08 Feb 2022, 14:31

euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?

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Re: can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2022, 14:54

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?
What is more confusing me is the act that Abiy is putting up. He acts like nothing happened; he just shows up for photo up with other African country, like nothing happens, that is amazes me. He number one job is to guard the safety and well being of his people, but people are dying right and left. Afar is dying, Amara is dying, the nation is about to explode, yet Abiy does nothing about it. This is dangerous, when the government fails to protect the people, the people will pick up arms and defends itself. In reality then what you call a civil war with worst entropy. I think Abiy is terrified about his power being challenged and taken by Fano.

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Re: can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2022, 14:54

Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?
What is more confusing me is the act that Abiy is putting up. He acts like nothing happened; he just shows up for photo up with other African country, like nothing happens, that is amazes me. He number one job is to guard the safety and well being of his people, but people are dying right and left. Afar is dying, Amara is dying, the nation is about to explode, yet Abiy does nothing about it. This is dangerous, when the government fails to protect the people, the people will pick up arms and defends itself. In reality then what you call a civil war with worst entropy. I think Abiy is terrified about his power being challenged and taken by Fano.

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Re: can you help?

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2022, 15:00

Za-llmaknun

Your point on the central is on the spot. I have no doubt now, Abiy is perhaps more worried about the armed Amaras, specially, the Fano than the proven genocidal Weyane. He doesn’t have a principle it seems since he has betrayed Ethiopians as well as his only backbone he had during Ethiopia’s difficult time, the Eritrean government. We are hearing many more betrayal from Abiy toward Eritrea that the Eritrean government doesn’t want to disclose.

Regardless, the reason why I say the “good for nothing Amaras” are indeed it is accurate. Why? Because, having dish out grievance against the Abiy’s government for not helping Amaras isn’t working so they should have change plans. You have the Human Resources, the natural resources and a huge diaspora with deep pockets all over the world. Furthermore, almost all independent medias within the country and outside are owned by the Amaras. All these gifted resources should have help defeated your enemies, but it is not. Why wait for a central government that it proves to you time and again that not willing to help you military? I would blame you people more than the the Abiy’s government because complaining isn’t give you a solution so you should change tactics and arm yourself to fight your enemies. Believe me, the Weyanes aren’t armed as much as you are but the fake media wants to believe you to scare you.
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 08 Feb 2022, 16:10

euroland,

The Amharas are their own enemies. They seem to think that singing Ethiopianism is the way out of this morass regardless of the cost to their own people. Amhara is under persecution in every part of the country for the same reason that they are pontificating would help save everyone. Others have started to give up on the idea of equality and giving in to accept to live under the subjugation of whoever is in power. Their decision is informed of what the Amharas are made example of through the silent ethnic cleansing that is on going as we speak.

one has to play by the rule to beat one's opponents. The supreme low of the land sees everybody as part of some ethnic group and, not as an individual. Play by the rule and show that the rule is tilted to benefit those with a bigger number of constituents. Then, make the case that the rule isn't fair for all. Otherwise you will always be portrayed as playing against the rule. Too unfortunate!!

There is going to be a a naturally breaking point, though. Endless complaining and the immeasurable feeling of helplessness should give way to a retribution that is borne of boundless tolerance the virtue of which is only paid in the reverse. The Amhara community has everything that could put them to at least demand an equal sitting in deciding the affairs of the country and the fate of their people. So far the Amhara leadership is the most incapable, the most coward and the most self-serving. This makes the Amhara fight double edged against its own leadership and that of the camp of olf/tplf. I think the people seem to have come to understand that doing things in same way over and over again and expecting a different result is pure insanity. All objective conditions seems to have been fulfilled for whatever is next to be done by the people.

As for the betrayal by the PM of Eritrea and Ethiopians, we haven't heard the worst yet. I am so cringing that he probably would be thinking of replacing the role that has been played by TPLF. His measures of decisions seem to be centered on how best to elongate his duration on power and how best to serve what he considers "his people".
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 15:00
Za-llmaknun

Your point on the central is on the spot. I have no doubt now, Abiy is perhaps more worried about the armed Amaras, specially, the Fano than the proven genocidal Weyane. He doesn’t have a principle it seems since he has betrayed Ethiopians as well as his only backbone he had during Ethiopia’s difficult time, the Eritrean government. We are hearing many more betrayal from Abiy toward Eritrea that the Eritrean government doesn’t want to disclose.

Regardless, the reason why I say the “good for nothing Amaras” are indeed it is accurate. Why? Because, having dish out grievance against the Abiy’s government for not helping Amaras isn’t working so they should have change plans. You have the Human Resources, the natural resources and a huge diaspora with deep pockets all over the world. Furthermore, almost all independent medias within the country and outside are owned by the Amaras. All these gifted resources should have help defeated your enemies, but it is not. Why wait for a central government that it proves to you time and again that not willing to help you military? I would blame you people more than the the Abiy’s government because complaining isn’t give you a solution so you should change tactics and arm yourself to fight your enemies. Believe me, the Weyanes aren’t armed as much as you are but the fake media wants to believe you to scare you.
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?

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Re: can you help?

Post by Abe Abraham » 08 Feb 2022, 17:54

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:54
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?
What is more confusing me is the act that Abiy is putting up. He acts like nothing happened; he just shows up for photo up with other African country, like nothing happens, that is amazes me. He number one job is to guard the safety and well being of his people, but people are dying right and left. Afar is dying, Amara is dying, the nation is about to explode, yet Abiy does nothing about it. This is dangerous, when the government fails to protect the people, the people will pick up arms and defends itself. In reality then what you call a civil war with worst entropy. I think Abiy is terrified about his power being challenged and taken by Fano.
I do not think that PMAA is terrified of his power being challenged and taken by Fano( the Fanos are busy defending themselves and have neither the desire nor the capacity and time to challenge Arat Killo). The challenge and usurpation of power is coming from the American envoy who visits Addis with his viagra induced super erection driving Ethiopian officials into quick submission.

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Re: can you help?

Post by ZEMEN » 09 Feb 2022, 12:15

Abe Abraham wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 17:54
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:54
Za-Ilmaknun wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 14:31
euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 11:09
Brother
It is mind boggling indeed to see not only is the Softy PM is completely ignoring the Afaris but also the rest of Ethiopia, specially the Amaras who received the blunt of the Weyanes crime are also doing nothing to help them. The Amaras who have perhape a million armed men and women at the moment are good for nothing. They throw beautiful words toward the Afaris, calling them with their sweet green orda, such as the “Ye Berha Anbesoch, Ye midir Dronoch”…when the Afari wins but dead silent when the Afaris are overwhelmed by the desperate Junta forces.



ZEMEN wrote:
08 Feb 2022, 09:11
I just can't understand with what is going on in Ethiopia under Abiy. The Afar people are getting wracked right and left and the federal government BS-ing in silence, what is the logic behind it? I do beleive Abiy doesn't want to eradicate entirely for reasons i failed to understand but if the sub-humans satyed in their killil and Abiy done nothing, i can understand that but the sub-humans are killing and abusing Afar and Raya, yet the government is no where to be found. What is the logic?
Zemen,

It is for all to see why Abiy doesn't want to completely eradicate the TPLF killing machine. We all are making mistakes in believing that he is working to ensure that we have a country where all its citizens are equally considered Ethiopians. Prosperity replaced Tigre with Oromo and trying to carry on with the system that has been in place for the last 30 plus years.

His supposed base isn't supporting him 100% because he frequently talks about Ethiopia in rosy terms. They think that he means what he says despite the very fact that one of his top guns revealed the secret behind the positively toned talks. We all need to remember the confuse/convince political strategy behind every move.

He needs a tamed TPLF that isn't strong enough to be a threat to his power in 4 killo but a threat to the Amhara. He is using TPLF as a balancing power to check on specifically the Amhara and the Ethiopianist camp which may otherwise force him to change the political course to be more accommodative by steering it away from tribal politics. The very system that he is desperately trying to perpetuate is the very system that will bring down his reign eventually.

Euroland,
Perhaps you might not know that there are more Amhara lands that are currently occupied by TPLF than Afar lands. WE all should ask why those "good for nothing" Amharas aren't able to liberate their occupied lands before they even contemplate to helping their brethren in Afar? It appears that it is everybody's forte to lash out and attack Amhara at every opportunity. I don't blame anyone though, since the very weakness of the Amhara leadership is the main root cause of the problem in the country. They day they learn to represent the aspirations of their people, the day all the problems...all the problems will start to dissipate. I even go as far blaming the Amhara leadership for the conundrum that we are in today.

The simple answer is, even if the Amharas wanted to help the Afars, the Federal Gov't won't allow it. As far as I know Fano has requested to be allowed to go to the war front in Afar. It wasn't a request that was looked at kindly by the feds. Besides, the Afars are quite capable of defeating the TPLF by themselves if they are equipped with the heavy artillery that gave TPLF the seemingly upper hand as of now. TPLF shells towns and Cities indiscriminately from miles away. How is it possible to combat against such an enemy with AK-47?
What is more confusing me is the act that Abiy is putting up. He acts like nothing happened; he just shows up for photo up with other African country, like nothing happens, that is amazes me. He number one job is to guard the safety and well being of his people, but people are dying right and left. Afar is dying, Amara is dying, the nation is about to explode, yet Abiy does nothing about it. This is dangerous, when the government fails to protect the people, the people will pick up arms and defends itself. In reality then what you call a civil war with worst entropy. I think Abiy is terrified about his power being challenged and taken by Fano.
I do not think that PMAA is terrified of his power being challenged and taken by Fano( the Fanos are busy defending themselves and have neither the desire nor the capacity and time to challenge Arat Killo). The challenge and usurpation of power is coming from the American envoy who visits Addis with his viagra induced super erection driving Ethiopian officials into quick submission.
That seems the case. I can't believe it, Abiy went that rout after unrepresented support and acceptance by the people, he throw that all out and he bend to USA. When the USA is in your business there is nothing good comes out of it. I don't know for a fact but i feel there is a serious confusion and miscommunication among the top leaders.

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