Hawdian wrote: ↑21 Dec 2021, 19:05
Sadacha Macca wrote: ↑21 Dec 2021, 17:48
Hawdian,
Did the Amhara ''invite'' Eritreans, or did Abiy do it, due to their security agreement that was agreed to in 2018 I believe?!
Let's delve further into it: why is it okay, for the Tigrayans/TPLF/your people, to ''invite'' ''foreigners'' or the Eritreans, to fight on their side [during the 1990's], against others [OLF/Afar/anyone opposing TPLF], but not okay if the roles are flipped, and they are fighting on opposite sides?!
It's all about: political interests, security threats, vengeance in a sense too, among other things here.
Double standards exist, I get it, but it is what it is, the Eritreans have a legitimate security threat from the TPLF, so them fighting the TPLF, as to avoid them somehow gaining power at the center again, is not only logical but expected! They had no choice but to get involved, because eventually, had the TPLF succeeded in subjugating the Amhara, Afar, the rest of Ethiopia & overthrowing Abiy's govt, who by no means is perfect or infallible; then they would've went after Eritrea next-regardless of how you feel about Pres. Isayas, his govt, etc.
Let's be honest-Somali's are too far away to care. Somali's, being a large nation, have varying opinions about the war; some love to see TPLF getting chased while feeling bad for the civilians, some see it as an ''attack'' on federalist parties, some don't care and love to see carnage, and etc etc. They care about their states peace, their states security, their borders, and to a lesser but still essential extent-the security of Ethiopia as a whole. The major players in this war are: Amhara by default, Afar by default, Eritrea and Abiy's government.
The rest: Oromo my people, Sidama, Somali, etc, are but passive observers, for the most part, of course.
To sum it up:
*Eritreans had no choice but to get involved, and they have/had, the right to get involved, the reasons are, and were, always be justified; regardless of how you, I, or others feel about it. War crimes, should always be condemned regardless of who the perpetrators and who/what the victims are/were, but once again: Eritrea had to get involved and any objective, impartial person can see this and would admit this.
*The Tigrayans need to sit down, calmly assess why and how they found themselves surrounded on almost all sides, by enemies. Did their leaders, perhaps just PERHAPS, put their people in this situation due to their crimes? Yes, the answer is: Yes. The Afar were the only ones who weren't their enemies, but of course, that changed once the TPLF went into their lands with artillery and weapons indiscriminately attacking innocent civilians.
So now, the Afar, who were previously their only neighbors who were neutral, are their foes for a long time to come, to the point they wanna go to Mekelle....
Obbo Sadachaa
You underscored some valid points but you are not honest with yourself when it comes to Amhara and their boy Abiy openly inviting foreign nations to massacre them.
Amhara and Eritreans are ethnic cleansing Tegaru in Western Tigray. Abiy is the face of Amhara policy.
They openly invited foreign countries to commit genocide against "their own citizens".
This will not be forgotten by Tegaru.
And like I said once they repent, we will forge partnership. Can they be trusted?
We can mend their relations with Afar, it's not hard. We can host both communities in Jigjiga and as per tradition, Tegaru have to pay Afar damages. This is how we both communities resolve issues.
So we understand Afar.
We have nothing in common with Amhara or Oromo as far as I'm concerned.
I also call for Somalis to donate to Tigray and take in Tegaru students (Jigjiga University).
Our issue was with TPLF.
The Ras
Hawdian,
I am not going to confirm or deny, what occurred there in what is known to some as western tigray, because I have not seen any reliable news networks reporting there, in an independent and impartial way.
However, let's say it occurred; who set the grounds for such a devastating war to occur in the first place? Who made enemies for their people for decades? Who remained silent, as their leaders/elites committed crimes, upon crimes, for decades against their immediate and more distant neighbors? [Amhara, Afar, Oromo, Somali, etc,?]]??
You cannot create enemies for yourself and for your people, then cry later when those groups want revenge-desiring revenge is as strong and innate as our desire for women, wealth, offspring, and other things that come natural to us.
The fact of the matter is: it's the greed and the evil deeds of the TPLF that paved the way for such crimes and such a war, to occur.
Indeed, indeed, the tigrayans here, and there, online and offline, were quiet, and supportive, when it was their uncles and cousins of the TPLF, were committing atrocities upon Oromo's, Somali's, and others, because they benefited from it, directly or in more indirect ways.
Let's be honest, if the Amhara did as you say, as wrong as it is to target civilians, which any sane human should and would condemn; can we say we're surprised? TPLF and Eritreans once upon a time were united, in various fights to solidify the TPLF's rule over Ethiopia, and I am sure, that you would not condemn that, because your people benefited. Now, interests changed, as did the alliances; so the Amhara leadership and the Eritrean leadership found themselves on the same side. Same logic that applied to the former alliances of the past, between TPLF led EPRDF and EPLF, applies to today's alliances.
Eritreans, like it or not, aren't foreigners, but are neighbors of ours. For better or worse, we will be so, until the day of Judgement.
So, whatever occurs within Ethiopia, will inevitably effect them, once again-for better or worse, so they had no choice but to get involved.
