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[Axumezana]

The 1st mention of the name Ethiopia is found in one of Ezan's stone inscriptions from the 4th century ( stone is still available in Axum), in that inscription Ethiopia is mentioned as one of the regions that Ezana was governing as King of Kings. The Book of Axum that was complied from early 14 or 15 century also mentions/claims that the name of Ethiopia is derived from Itiyopp'is the son of the Biblical Cush.Hence the name of Ethiopia is associated with Tigray and Tigray has to retain and owns it as a well established brand name. Therefore, the best strategy that meets the aspiration of Tigrayans with out affecting the territorial integrity of Ethiopia is to immediately transfer the power base to Tigray ( immediately to Mekelle and within one year to Axum) while retaining the name Ethiopia. Those regions that are willing to be part of Ethiopia could be integrated with Tigray based on Federation or Confederation.

[sebdoyeley]

what about the name agame? is that retained with your famine-stricken of your people? enlight us Einstain.

[sun]

The 1st mention of the name Ethiopia is found in one of Ezan's stone inscriptions from the 4th century ( stone is still available in Axum), in that inscription Ethiopia is mentioned as one of the regions that Ezana was governing as King of Kings. The Book of Axum that was complied from early 14 or 15 century also mentions/claims that the name of Ethiopia is derived from Itiyopp'is the son of the Biblical Cush.Hence the name of Ethiopia is associated with Tigray and Tigray has to retain and owns it as a well established brand name. Therefore, the best strategy that meets the aspiration of Tigrayans with out affecting the territorial integrity of Ethiopia is to immediately transfer the power base to Tigray ( immediately to Mekelle and within one year to Axum) while retaining the name Ethiopia. Those regions that are willing to be part of Ethiopia could be integrated with Tigray based on Federation or Confederation.

With out meaning to manufacture fake history and steal identities the truth is that the Biblical Cush you mentioned is about the Cushtitic Oromo and all the other Cushtic peoples like the Somalis. As PM Meles Zenawi claimed rightfully that he and the other Tigriyans are of Yemeni origin Semitics people like Arabs also known as Habeshi, Abyssinian (incense collectors) who crossed over to the African side of the red sea from Yemen,discarded their identity, seeking to integrate to their new found fertile African surroundings and took up the indigenous beautiful Cushtic territory name, "Ethiopia", meaning black face. That is exactly what you are doing still to day. Here I am not saying that it is good or bad but only telling historical facts!

If PM Meles happens to hear your identity shopping trips & claims he would turn around in his grave with anger. One day coming out and shouting "down, down Ethiopia" The next day coming out and shouting "We are the only Ethiopians and no one else!"

Why the unstable great confusion and the unstable great foggy thinking? Has it got to do with too much sniffing and too much smoking?

[AbebeB]

The 1st mention of the name Ethiopia is found in one of Ezan's stone inscriptions from the 4th century ( stone is still available in Axum), in that inscription Ethiopia is mentioned as one of the regions that Ezana was governing as King of Kings. The Book of Axum that was complied from early 14 or 15 century also mentions/claims that the name of Ethiopia is derived from Itiyopp'is the son of the Biblical Cush.Hence the name of Ethiopia is associated with Tigray and Tigray has to retain and owns it as a well established brand name. Therefore, the best strategy that meets the aspiration of Tigrayans with out affecting the territorial integrity of Ethiopia is to immediately transfer the power base to Tigray ( immediately to Mekelle and within one year to Axum) while retaining the name Ethiopia. Those regions that are willing to be part of Ethiopia could be integrated with Tigray based on Federation or Confederation.

My inquiry is this. How do you relate Cush to Axumite kingdom, then? Both of your sources seem to conflict.

[Axumezana]

The book of Axum claims Axum was established by Itiyopp'is. But this name is not mentioned in the Bible among the sons of Cush( no biblical evidence or other evidence other than the book of Axum). I am surprised Ascari slaves are still interested about the history of Ethiopia. I taught you have forgotten the history of your ancestors and your masters the Agames!

[Deqi-Arawit]

The book of Axum claims Axum was established by Itiyopp'is. But this name is not mentioned in the Bible among the sons of Cush( no biblical evidence or other evidence other than the book of Axum). I am surprised Ascari slaves are still interested about the history of Ethiopia. I taught you have forgotten the history of your ancestors and your masters the Agames!

Teret teret history

The real Ethiopia is the kingdom of Nubia and it was the Nubians the greek philosopher refered as ethiopians.

The wife of Abraham and the Mother of ismail Hagger was of Nubian descend, so was the wife of Aron the brother of Moses.

[Axumezana]

Ascari slave Nubians = Ethiopians( that includes today Ethiopians) = Nubians

,As of today, it is hard to differentiate Sudan or Egypt Nubian from Ethiopians! If an Ethiopian walks in Khartoum he could be mistaken for Nubian!

[Deqi-Arawit]

Ascari slave Nubians = Ethiopians( that includes today Ethiopians) = Nubians

,As of today, it is hard to differentiate Sudan or Egypt Nubian from Ethiopians! If an Ethiopian walks in Khartoum he could be mistaken for Nubian!

teret teret

Don't try to lean on others. Nubians are related to the Beja and other cushitic tribes while your kinky head is a product of nilotic and semetic tribes.

[Horus]

አክሱም
ሰሞኑን የማንነት ጭንቀት ላይ ያለህ ትመስላለህ ያንተ ባንዳ ወንድሞች ኢትዮጵያን ሺቶፒያ ብለው በሶሺያል ሚዲያ የተሳደቡ ወፍ አራሽ ዘርና አገር የሌላቸው ለቁማጾች ናቸው ። ኢዛና በትግራኛ ቋንቋ ውስጥ የሌላ ቃልና ከትግሬ ጋር ማናምን ግን ግንኙነት የሌልው ነገር ነው ። እውነቱ ወደፊት ሲወጣ ታገኘዋለህ ። የከሃዲ ትግሬ ተረት ማለቂያ የለውም። ማፈሪያ!

ሰን፣
የኢትዮጵያ ህዝብ ከኤርትራ እስከ ኬኒያ ኢትዮጵያ የኔ አገር ነው ማለታቸው በጣም ደስ የሚልና ወብ ነገር ነው ። ግ ን አንተም ብትሆን የአክሱምን ስህተት ነው የምሰራው ። ግሪኮች ጥቁር ለሚለው ቀለም ቃል አላቸው ፣ ያ ቃል አይቲኦ አይደለም ። የነደደ ፊት ያሉት እሳት የመስለ ፊት ያላቸው ህብዝ ማለታቸው ነበር ። እንሱ ያሉት ቀይ ፊት ያላቸው ህዝብ፣ ነው ። በአማርኛ ቀይ የሚባለው ቀለም በሌላ የሴም ቃል ብሻ የባላል። አበሻ ማለት ብሻ ወይም ቀይ ቀለም ያለ ህዝብ ማለት ነው ። ልብ በል ቀይ ወይም ብሻ ቀለም ነጭ ከሚባለው የተለየ ከአረብም የተለየ ከደቡብ የመን እስከ ሰሃራ ጥንታዊ ህዝቦች ማናልባትም ጥንታዊ ግብጾችን ያካተተ የህዝብ ቀለም ነው ። ስለዚህ ለማወቅ ግድ ካለን የግሪኩ አይቲያኦፖስ በራሳቸው በሴም ህዝቦች ቃል ኤብሻ ወይም አብሻ ይባሉ ነበር ። ቀይ ሕዝብ ማለት ነው ። ግ ን ቀይ ቀለም ራሱ ደም የሚመስለው ቀይ ስላልሆነ (ግሪኮች ለቀይም ለጥቁርም ቀለም ቃል ስለነበራቸው) ብሻ ለሚለው እኛ ቀይ ለምንለው ነው እሳት የመሰለ ያሉት ። ባንድ ቃል ኢትዮጵያ ማለት በወረደ ትርጉሙ ጥቁር ፊት ማለት አይደለም ። ዛሬ ግን መላ ጥቁር አፍሪካ ኢትዮጵያ ማለት ጥቁር ማለት ነው ቢሉ እጅግ ደስ የሚያሰኝ ነው ።

[Digital Weyane]

ትግራይ የሚለው ቃል Tea Grey ከሚለው የእንግሊዝኛ ቃል የመጣ ነው ፣ ትርጉሙም Tea ማለት ሻይ፣ Grey ማለት ደግሞ ግራጫ ወይም አመዳማ ቀለም ማለት ነው። በድሮ ጊዜ እንግሊዞች ኢትዮጵያን ለማንበርከክ ፈልገው ከትግራዋይ ባንዳ ካሳ መርጫ (ዐፄ ዮሀንስ ፬ኛ) በመስማማት ዐፄ ቴድሮስን ለመግደል አሰቡ። እንግሊዞች አመዳማ መልክ ያለውን ካሳ መርጫ የሚኖርበት ምድር ቅጠል ፣ አታክልት ዘር ፣ ቁጥቋጦው ራሱ የማይታይበት ምድረ በዳ መሆኑን ካዩ በኋላ Tea Grey የሚል ስም አወጡለት። አመዳም ማለታቸው ነው።

አይ ቲንክ ዊ ተጋሩ ኒድ ቱ ቼንጅ ዘ ኔም ኦፍ ኣዋር ክልል ቱ ደንቨር (Denver)።

[Axumezana]

Ascari slaves and mercenaries are the ones who have been suffering due to identity crises not Tigrayans! Actually I have been prescribing you guys to pass through the Agazian therapy so that you will be able to reach to the releam of self realization.

Tigrayans have tangible and unadulterated historical evidence with continuity to trace their past. Languages change with time , some die and new ones come, some are written and others may not. However, in the Axumite case Geez has been a written language at least for about two thousand years and their is amble evidence to trace the past.

[Guest1]

... transfer the power base to Tigray ( immediately to Mekelle and within one year to Axum) while retaining the name Ethiopia.

Those regions that are willing to be part of Ethiopia could be integrated with Tigray based on Federation or Confederation.

1. በታሪክ አክሱም ኢትዮጵያ፤ ኢዛና.... አያዋጣም። ኢዛና ትግሬን ሲወጋ የነበር ንጉስ ነው በታሪክ። እርሳው። እርሳው። 2. Confederation በአደጉ አገሮች ብቻ ይሰራል። ለነገሩ ፌድሬሽን መች ሰራና? 3. መለስ ኮንፌድሬሽን አንፈልግም ብሏል። ምክንያቶቹ ትክክል ነበሩ። በቃ! ዝርዘር ውስጥ አልገባም! 4. አንድ ቁም ነገር ግን አንስተሃል። ዬትም ይሁን አክሱም መቀለ አድዋ ዋና ከተማ እንዲሆን ለ27 አመት ያልተሰራበት ምክንያት ምን ነበር? አሁንማ ከጦርነት የማንወጣበት ሁኔታ ላይ ይህን ማስብ ቀልድም ይመስላል።

ኢትዮ ከጦርነት አትወጣም ለረጅም ጊዜ። የውጭ ሃይሎች ወረራ ይከተላል። ስላምም የሚገኘው የውጭ ሃይሎች ጦር ይዘው ሲሰፍሩባት ብቻ ነው። ስለዝህም የጊዜው ጥያቄ ካፒታሉ ዬት ይሁን አይደለም። ዬትኞቹን የውጭ ሃይሎች ለአፍሪካ ቀንድ እንምረጥ ነው። የአውሮፓ ህብረት/ጀርመን፤ የምናውቀው ጣሊያን ይሻላል ወይስ ቱርክና ራሻ? ወይስ አሜርካ ክቻይና ጋር ሆነው ያስተዳድሩን? ይኸው ነው አጉል መራቀቅ አያስፈልግም።

[Blueshift]

Axumezana,

You really are mentally suffering. Your people are in deep shyyyt and here you are talking about the fictional kingdom of Axum. You see some black people around the world have been manufacturing fiction to alleviate their inferiority complexity as well as suffering. What really matters is what you are and where you are today. Tigrayans find themselves fighting for their own survival. That really is what the West is concerned about. Both sides aggrandize their lies to the outside world. But, the civilians are suffering. Both sides are also illogical. Neither side will be the ultimate winner. Ethiopia, including Tigray will come out of this debilitated. There is no rationality to this. Forget about the ni-gggar self aggrandizing agazian story. It is okay if it makes you feel good, but leave others alone.

[Guest1]

Ethiopia", meaning black face.

አይደለም። Ethiopia ምን ማለት እንደሆን እስካሁን አልታወቀም። opia በብዙ ስሞች መጨረሻ ይገኛል Utopia, Ethiopia ሌላስ? .... dystopia

[Guest1]

The real Ethiopia is the kingdom of Nubia and it was the Nubians the greek philosopher refered as ethiopians.

ኑቢያን ብቻ የማይመስል ነገር ወይም ጠቅሰህ አሳምን። ኢትዮጵያ የተወሰነ የአፍሪካ ምድር ማለት የሰሜኑ በተለይ ኢትዮን ጨምሮ የሚጠሩበት ስም ነበር። ከግብጽ ጀምሮ ስለዝህም ኑቢያን ያካትታል። Africa በጠቅላላ የምትጠራበት ስም ነበርም ይባላል። ዛሬ የህንድ ወቂያኖስ መጠሪያው የኢትዮጵያ ውቂያኖስ ነበር። በምዕራብ ያለውም እንደዝሁ የኢትዮጵያ ውቅያኖስ ወዘተ... ካርታው አለ። ማሳነስም ማጋነንም አያስፈልግም። የኢትዮ ኤምፓየር ነበርም ይባላል። ይህ ከዝህ ጋር ይገጥማል

The book of Axum claims Axum was established by Itiyopp'is.

ከግብጽ በአረቦችና በግሪኮች ወረራ እያፈገፈጉ በመጨረሻም አክሱምን ዋና ከተማቸው አደረጉ ቢባል ተሰሚነት ይኖራል።

[Guest1]

Tigrayans have tangible and unadulterated historical evidence with continuity to trace their past. Languages change with time , some die and new ones come, some are written and others may not. However, in the Axumite case Geez has been a written language at least for about two thousand years and their is amble evidence to trace the past.

የኦሮሞ፤ የአርጎባ፤ የጉራጌ፡ የሲዳማ ህዝብ ታሪክ ... ብሄር ብሄረሰቦች መጽሃፍ አላቸው። ብዙ ማስረጃዎች አሉ እየተባለም እስካሁን ግን የትግራይ ህዝብ ታሪክ የሚል መጽሃፍ የለም። ካለ ጠቁመን እስቲ። ወቸ ጉድ! ፡)

[AbebeB]

Ascari slaves and mercenaries are the ones who have been suffering due to identity crises not Tigrayans! Actually I have been prescribing you guys to pass through the Agazian therapy so that you will be able to reach to the releam of self realization.

Tigrayans have tangible and unadulterated historical evidence with continuity to trace their past. Languages change with time , some die and new ones come, some are written and others may not. However, in the Axumite case Geez has been a written language at least for about two thousand years and their is amble evidence to trace the past.

Hey,
So the claim of book of Axum is irrelevant to facts on the ground. It seems one of the usual habesha debteras' lies aimed to legitimize their colonial expansion.
By the way, do you know history of Axum is confiscated from Agew, one of the native peoples in the horn of Africa?
On the other hand, Semetic speakers like Afaan Tigre is not African origin?

NB: Consider going back to your native land beyond the sea.

[Axumezana]

Ascari slave teach that to your kids! The core of Axumites are Tigray and some part of Eritrea and on the periphery it goes up to Yemen, part of Saudi Arabia, Beja land, Sudan, Southern Egypt the whole existing Ethiopia( Agews were the core before the Amharic language was created in Axum and introduced), Somalia and more regions in Africa. You only know what your colonial master taught you are the Tigrayan dictator Isaias.