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ብርሃኑ ነጋና ኢዜማን ለማታውቁ ! አንግባ አንግባ? ክርክር ብሎ ዝም!!

Post by Horus » 05 Oct 2021, 17:45

ይህ እጅግ አስደናቂ ክስተት ነው። እራሳቸው የጎሳ ክልሎችና የጎሳ ፖለቲካ መሪዎች የያዙት የዘር አይዲኦሎጂ እንደማይሰራ ባመኑበትና ኢትዮጵያ እንነ አንድ ህዝብ በቆመችበት ታሪካዊ ወቅት ይህን ግዙፍ አገራዊ ንቅናቄ ወደ ዜጋ ፖለቲካ እኒያጋድል ብሎም የእውነተኛ ዜጋ ፖለቲካ እንዲሆን ለመግፋት ኢዜማ ያቢይን ጥሪ መቀበሉ ወሳኝና ትክክለኛ እርምጃ ነው ። በእኔ ሆረስ ግምት ይህ የኤዜማ ካቢይ መንግስት ጋር አብሮ መስራት የአሜሪካንን አቋም ሁሉ እንዲለወጥ የሚያደርግ ይመስለኛል ። ምን አለ በሉ የመንግስትና የኢዜማ አብሮ መስራትና የአቢይ ካቢኔ ስብጥር ካዩ በኋላ አሜሪካኖች ባገራችን ላይ የሚያደርጉትን የግፊት ደባ ዋጋ እንደ ሌለው አይተው እንደ ሚለሳለሱ ጠብቁ!

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Re: ብርሃኑ ነጋና ኢዜማን ለማታውቁ !

Post by Horus » 05 Oct 2021, 18:10


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Post by Educator » 05 Oct 2021, 19:05

What happened to Birr Amtu? He didn't like Plan Commission?

His request for ministry of finance was too much for Mamo Killo and rejected it. Now crying like a baby after it is too late. Birr amtu needs to leave asap before the 7th king put him in jail with Aboy Sibhat.

:mrgreen:
Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 17:45
ይህ እጅግ አስደናቂ ክስተት ነው። እራሳቸው የጎሳ ክልሎችና የጎሳ ፖለቲካ መሪዎች የያዙት የዘር አይዲኦሎጂ እንደማይሰራ ባመኑበትና ኢትዮጵያ እንነ አንድ ህዝብ በቆመችበት ታሪካዊ ወቅት ይህን ግዙፍ አገራዊ ንቅናቄ ወደ ዜጋ ፖለቲካ እኒያጋድል ብሎም የእውነተኛ ዜጋ ፖለቲካ እንዲሆን ለመግፋት ኢዜማ ያቢይን ጥሪ መቀበሉ ወሳኝና ትክክለኛ እርምጃ ነው ። በእኔ ሆረስ ግምት ይህ የኤዜማ ካቢይ መንግስት ጋር አብሮ መስራት የአሜሪካንን አቋም ሁሉ እንዲለወጥ የሚያደርግ ይመስለኛል ። ምን አለ በሉ የመንግስትና የኢዜማ አብሮ መስራትና የአቢይ ካቢኔ ስብጥር ካዩ በኋላ አሜሪካኖች ባገራችን ላይ የሚያደርጉትን የግፊት ደባ ዋጋ እንደ ሌለው አይተው እንደ ሚለሳለሱ ጠብቁ!


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Re: ብርሃኑ ነጋና ኢዜማን ለማታውቁ ! አንግባ አንግባ? ክርክር ብሎ ዝም!!

Post by Horus » 05 Oct 2021, 19:17

Educator,
አንተ ዉሸታም የተከለከለ ለማኝ! ብርሃኑ ከፈለገ አሜሪካ ተመልሶ የ200 000 ያመት ደሞዝ ፕሮፌሰርነቱን ይቀጥላል። ካሻው ያባቱም መልታይ ሚሊዮን ቢዝነስ ይመራል ካሻው ሃብታም ጉራጌን ሰብስቦ የራሱ ባንክ ያቆማል ።አንተ የተከለከለ ለማኝ!

አቢይ አህመድ ትላንት በመስቀል አደባባይ ከዎያኔ ቀጥሎ የምናጠፋው ሌብነት ነው ብሎ በሚሊዮን ለተሰለፈው ህዝብ ባለም ፊት አውጇል ። ሌባን ማጥፋት የሚለው ይህው ከራሱ ከብርሃኑ አፍ ሰማሃው ። ኢዜማ መንግስት የሚገባው ያንተን ዘመዶች ሌቦቹን ለማጽዳት ነው ። ለዚህ ነው ሺ ግዜ የምትበረግገው !!!
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Post by eden » 05 Oct 2021, 19:27

Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:17
ጉርጌን ሰብስቦ
አንተ ሰው ጠበህ ጠበህ ልትጠፋ ነው። ስውየውንም አጠበብከው። ህዝብንም እንዲህ እያነሳህ አትዘንጥል።

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Re: ብርሃኑ ነጋና ኢዜማን ለማታውቁ ! አንግባ አንግባ? ክርክር ብሎ ዝም!!

Post by Horus » 05 Oct 2021, 19:36

ኢዜማ ከመንግስት ጋር የሚተባበረው ኢትዮጵያ የትግሬ ባንዳ ካሰበላት በግብጽ ማስወረር ለማዳንና የባንዳ ስንዴ ቀላቢዮችን አደብ ለማስገዛት ነው ። አቢይ ይህን ጠንቅቆ ያቃል። ደሞ እኛ የዘር ፖለቲካ ከኢትዮጵያ ሳናጠፋ ወደ ምኝታ አንመለስም ። ያ ማለት አንተ ነህ ! እኔ ሆረስ ነኝ! ቃላት አልፈድልም ፣ በስምህ ነው የምጠራህ!

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Re: ብርሃኑ ነጋና ኢዜማን ለማታውቁ ! አንግባ አንግባ? ክርክር ብሎ ዝም!!

Post by Educator » 05 Oct 2021, 19:42

Birhanu never made 200k in his life as a teacher in the US and he will never make such amount in the future. His biggest salary as a university lecturer was less than 80k. So i am not sure what you wishing for him.

As for starting investment in Ethiopia now with the help of other gurages, yes he can. His likes, beyene Petros or Ermias Amalga did it. So that won't be a big deal. But the best opportunity he spoiled was the fundraising he used to do in the name of G7(nonexistent armed group, sorry 241 soldiers he abandoned) and finally the Ezema office renovation cause. Now, can he restart the fundraising? I doubt after he betrayed his diaspora supporters by selling out for PP.

In any case though, you have too take it easy. You shouldn't fight for a conman like him when there is a bigger and noble cause, like the Ethiopian people and the dictatorship imposed on them. People are dying of hunger, and soaring inflation is the result of the ignorance of the 7th king and the roadmap he was provided by Birr amtu and his right hand man Andargachew zige. Of caurse, if you're not suffering from "short-memory" as Mamo Killo calls it.

😁👍


Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:17
Educator,
አንተ ዉሸታም የተከለከለ ለማኝ! ብርሃኑ ከፈለገ አሜሪካ ተመልሶ የ200 000 ያመት ደሞዝ ፕሮፌሰርነቱን ይቀጥላል። ካሻው ያባቱም መልታይ ሚሊዮን ቢዝነስ ይመራል ካሻው ሃብታም ጉርጌን ሰብስቦ የራሱ ባንክ ያቆማል ።አንተ የተከለከለ ለማኝ!

አቢይ አህመድ ትላንት በመስቀል አደባባይ ከዎያኔ ቀጥሎ የምናጠፋው ሌብነት ነው ብሎ በሚሊዮን ለተሰለፈው ህዝብ ባለም ፊት አውጇል ። ሌባን ማጥፋት የሚለው ይህው ከራሱ ከብርሃኑ አፍ ሰማሃው ። ኢዜማ መንግስት የሚገባው ያንተን ዘመዶች ሌቦቹን ለማጽዳት ነው ። ለዚህ ነው ሺ ግዜ የምትበረግገው !!!

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Post by Horus » 05 Oct 2021, 20:03

Educator,
የኔን ቁጥር መሳሳት የምታሳየው ያንተን ስሜት በመሞጫጨር ሳይሆን ሂድና የይኒቨርሲቲው ዳታ በምሳየት ነው ። የትግሬ ባንዳ ተነስቶ የዉሸት ጥቃት ባደረሰበት ሁሉ ይጋለጣል፣ የዋረዳል ፣ ትህምህርት ወስደህ አደብ እስከ ምትገዛ፣ ግልጽ ነው? እኔ ማን እንደ ምደግፍና የቱ ተግባር ኖብልና የቱ ተግባር ቆሻሻ እንደ ሆነ እኔ የማስተምርህ እንጂ አንተ አይደለህም! ባንዳ ያገር ጠላት!!

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Post by Selam/ » 05 Oct 2021, 20:15

It is a shame to bring up Beyene Petros, whom the midget fired along with four dozens professors. He is not a Gurage nor a wealthy man. In fact, he was living in a rental house. Likewise, Ermias Amalga is another victim of woyane rats.
Educator wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:42
Birhanu never made 200k in his life as a teacher in the US and he will never make such amount in the future. His biggest salary as a university lecturer was less than 80k. So i am not sure what you wishing for him.

As for starting investment in Ethiopia now with the help of other gurages, yes he can. His likes, beyene Petros or Ermias Amalga did it. So that won't be a big deal. But the best opportunity he spoiled was the fundraising he used to do in the name of G7(nonexistent armed group, sorry 241 soldiers he abandoned) and finally the Ezema office renovation cause. Now, can he restart the fundraising? I doubt after he betrayed his diaspora supporters by selling out for PP.

In any case though, you have too take it easy. You shouldn't fight for a conman like him when there is a bigger and noble cause, like the Ethiopian people and the dictatorship imposed on them. People are dying of hunger, and soaring inflation is the result of the ignorance of the 7th king and the roadmap he was provided by Birr amtu and his right hand man Andargachew zige. Of caurse, if you're not suffering from "short-memory" as Mamo Killo calls it.

😁👍


Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:17
Educator,
አንተ ዉሸታም የተከለከለ ለማኝ! ብርሃኑ ከፈለገ አሜሪካ ተመልሶ የ200 000 ያመት ደሞዝ ፕሮፌሰርነቱን ይቀጥላል። ካሻው ያባቱም መልታይ ሚሊዮን ቢዝነስ ይመራል ካሻው ሃብታም ጉርጌን ሰብስቦ የራሱ ባንክ ያቆማል ።አንተ የተከለከለ ለማኝ!

አቢይ አህመድ ትላንት በመስቀል አደባባይ ከዎያኔ ቀጥሎ የምናጠፋው ሌብነት ነው ብሎ በሚሊዮን ለተሰለፈው ህዝብ ባለም ፊት አውጇል ። ሌባን ማጥፋት የሚለው ይህው ከራሱ ከብርሃኑ አፍ ሰማሃው ። ኢዜማ መንግስት የሚገባው ያንተን ዘመዶች ሌቦቹን ለማጽዳት ነው ። ለዚህ ነው ሺ ግዜ የምትበረግገው !!!

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Post by Educator » 05 Oct 2021, 20:32

I am not sure why you think it is a shame and want to distance Beyen Petros and Ermias from Birhanu. Beyene has been a politician and started a Bank (Debub bank) with the help of his ethnic southern people. He is also a supporter of Mamo Killo adminstration.

As for Ermias Amalga, he is a gurage like Birr amtu. He allegedly worked with Woyane to amass wealth illegally by conspiring with Samora Yunus with the selling of a building to Metech/army at inflated price. He was jailed for it by the current dictatorship. And he has started a banking business.

What is so shameful about Birr amtu that no one wants to be associated with him?
Selam/ wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 20:15
It is a shame to bring up Beyene Petros, whom the midget fired along with four dozens professors. He is not a Gurage nor a wealthy man. In fact, he was living in a rental house. Likewise, Ermias Amalga is another victim of woyane rats.
Educator wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:42
Birhanu never made 200k in his life as a teacher in the US and he will never make such amount in the future. His biggest salary as a university lecturer was less than 80k. So i am not sure what you wishing for him.

As for starting investment in Ethiopia now with the help of other gurages, yes he can. His likes, beyene Petros or Ermias Amalga did it. So that won't be a big deal. But the best opportunity he spoiled was the fundraising he used to do in the name of G7(nonexistent armed group, sorry 241 soldiers he abandoned) and finally the Ezema office renovation cause. Now, can he restart the fundraising? I doubt after he betrayed his diaspora supporters by selling out for PP.

In any case though, you have too take it easy. You shouldn't fight for a conman like him when there is a bigger and noble cause, like the Ethiopian people and the dictatorship imposed on them. People are dying of hunger, and soaring inflation is the result of the ignorance of the 7th king and the roadmap he was provided by Birr amtu and his right hand man Andargachew zige. Of caurse, if you're not suffering from "short-memory" as Mamo Killo calls it.

😁👍


Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:17
Educator,
አንተ ዉሸታም የተከለከለ ለማኝ! ብርሃኑ ከፈለገ አሜሪካ ተመልሶ የ200 000 ያመት ደሞዝ ፕሮፌሰርነቱን ይቀጥላል። ካሻው ያባቱም መልታይ ሚሊዮን ቢዝነስ ይመራል ካሻው ሃብታም ጉርጌን ሰብስቦ የራሱ ባንክ ያቆማል ።አንተ የተከለከለ ለማኝ!

አቢይ አህመድ ትላንት በመስቀል አደባባይ ከዎያኔ ቀጥሎ የምናጠፋው ሌብነት ነው ብሎ በሚሊዮን ለተሰለፈው ህዝብ ባለም ፊት አውጇል ። ሌባን ማጥፋት የሚለው ይህው ከራሱ ከብርሃኑ አፍ ሰማሃው ። ኢዜማ መንግስት የሚገባው ያንተን ዘመዶች ሌቦቹን ለማጽዳት ነው ። ለዚህ ነው ሺ ግዜ የምትበረግገው !!!

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Post by Selam/ » 05 Oct 2021, 22:19

I don’t question why it is difficult for you to understand the image you see in the mirror. Because I know shamelessness is inherently ingrained in woyane’s psyche. You pick up the bird drop on others while your own sphincter leaks constantly. You embellish one person and condemn the other, the damage you inflicted on both notwithstanding. KIFFU!

Educator wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 20:32
I am not sure why you think it is a shame and want to distance Beyen Petros and Ermias from Birhanu. Beyene has been a politician and started a Bank (Debub bank) with the help of his ethnic southern people. He is also a supporter of Mamo Killo adminstration.

As for Ermias Amalga, he is a gurage like Birr amtu. He allegedly worked with Woyane to amass wealth illegally by conspiring with Samora Yunus with the selling of a building to Metech/army at inflated price. He was jailed for it by the current dictatorship. And he has started a banking business.

What is so shameful about Birr amtu that no one wants to be associated with him?
Selam/ wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 20:15
It is a shame to bring up Beyene Petros, whom the midget fired along with four dozens professors. He is not a Gurage nor a wealthy man. In fact, he was living in a rental house. Likewise, Ermias Amalga is another victim of woyane rats.
Educator wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:42
Birhanu never made 200k in his life as a teacher in the US and he will never make such amount in the future. His biggest salary as a university lecturer was less than 80k. So i am not sure what you wishing for him.

As for starting investment in Ethiopia now with the help of other gurages, yes he can. His likes, beyene Petros or Ermias Amalga did it. So that won't be a big deal. But the best opportunity he spoiled was the fundraising he used to do in the name of G7(nonexistent armed group, sorry 241 soldiers he abandoned) and finally the Ezema office renovation cause. Now, can he restart the fundraising? I doubt after he betrayed his diaspora supporters by selling out for PP.

In any case though, you have too take it easy. You shouldn't fight for a conman like him when there is a bigger and noble cause, like the Ethiopian people and the dictatorship imposed on them. People are dying of hunger, and soaring inflation is the result of the ignorance of the 7th king and the roadmap he was provided by Birr amtu and his right hand man Andargachew zige. Of caurse, if you're not suffering from "short-memory" as Mamo Killo calls it.

😁👍


Horus wrote:
05 Oct 2021, 19:17
Educator,
አንተ ዉሸታም የተከለከለ ለማኝ! ብርሃኑ ከፈለገ አሜሪካ ተመልሶ የ200 000 ያመት ደሞዝ ፕሮፌሰርነቱን ይቀጥላል። ካሻው ያባቱም መልታይ ሚሊዮን ቢዝነስ ይመራል ካሻው ሃብታም ጉርጌን ሰብስቦ የራሱ ባንክ ያቆማል ።አንተ የተከለከለ ለማኝ!

አቢይ አህመድ ትላንት በመስቀል አደባባይ ከዎያኔ ቀጥሎ የምናጠፋው ሌብነት ነው ብሎ በሚሊዮን ለተሰለፈው ህዝብ ባለም ፊት አውጇል ። ሌባን ማጥፋት የሚለው ይህው ከራሱ ከብርሃኑ አፍ ሰማሃው ። ኢዜማ መንግስት የሚገባው ያንተን ዘመዶች ሌቦቹን ለማጽዳት ነው ። ለዚህ ነው ሺ ግዜ የምትበረግገው !!!

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Post by TGAA » 06 Oct 2021, 00:46

In the ideal world it would have been better had EZEMA won an election and got enough representation in the parliament. Things would have been different had it not been 50 +1 system of majority system has not existed . But as it stands now , EZEMA serves at the pleasure of Belsigna. Given the precarious situation Ethiopia find it self because of the external and internal threat It is important we support the alliance between the two. However, EZEMA should not avail itself to give cover when Beltsgena makes a glaring mistake. And Beltsgena should mine the best Ideas from EZEMA to rebuild the Ethiopia we all want to see.
Here is my recommendation to EZEMA.
say what you mean and mean what you say. In public sphere, what you say and what you do has to be as consistent as possible.
Learn to apologize when you make mistake.
consider criticism as a feedback not as an attack.
Never create a paralleled reality to explain it away ( don't be an expert in straw man argument )
Don't be a victim of analysis paralysis.
Leave the field without hesitation if your core value is challenged from its foundation.

Good luck .
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Post by Horus » 06 Oct 2021, 01:19

TGAA
እስማማለሁ። ፖለቲካን የሚነዱት ፍላጎትች ስልጣን፣ ገንዘብ፣ ዝናና ክብር ናቸው ። ብልጽግና በግልጽ ስልጣን (ሃይል) እና ገንዘብ አለው ። ኢዜማ ዝናና ክብር አለው ። ክብር አንድ ትርጉሙ ተቀባይነትና ህጋዊነት ነው ። አቢይ በግለሰብ ደረጃ ዝናም ክብርም አለው ። ግን አቢይን የሚስማማው ፓርቲ ኢዜማ እንጂ ፒፒ አይደለም ። የዘውግ ፍልስፍና ስለማይመቸው ። ስለዚህ እስከ ተወሰነ ድረስ የኢዜማ አይነት ፖለቲካና ድጋፍ ይፈልጋል።

የኢዜማ ተልኮ አቢይን ይበልጥ ወደ ዜጋ ፍልስፍና መሳብ እንጂ የጎሳ ፖለቲካ ሌጂቲማይዝ ማድረጊያ እንደማይሆኑ እምነቴ ነው ። ይህ ከሆነ አቢይ ለምን ፈለጋቸው ነው ጥያቄው። ወደ ፊት የሚቀመረው ስርዓት የዘውግ ና የዜጋ እምነቶች ቅይጥ፣ ፍትጊያና ትብብር ነው የሚሆነው። የጎሳው ፖለቲካ በጣም ስለተጠላ (የጦርነትና ቀውስ ምንጭ ለለሆነ) ኢዜማ እስከ ተወሰነ ለፒፒ ማጣፈጫ መሆኑ አይቀርም። ግን ኤዜማም ራሱ አስተዳደር ፕራክቲስ ማድረጊያ መንገድ ይሆነዋል ።

ጥያቄው የሚሆነው በሁለቱ የዘውግ እና የዜጋ ሃሳቦች ፍትጊያ የትኛው ይበልጥ የህዝብ ቀልብ እየሳበ የፖለቲካው መንፈስ የሚመራ ይሆናል የሚለው ነው።

ለዛሬ ግን ኢትዮጵያ እግጅ የሚያስፈልጋት ጠንካራ መንግስትና ጦር ሃይል ስለሆነ በዚህ ፒፒም ኢዜማም አንድ አመለካከት አላቸው ። በተጨማሪም የኢዜማ ካቢይ መንግስት ጋር መተባበር የምዕራብን ግፊት ሁሉ የሚያስቆመው ይመስለኛል ።

ይህ መሃል ሜዳ ፣ ሴንተሪስት መሰል ትብብር ሁለቱንም ፓርቲዎች ላይ ተጽኖ ማድረጉ የማይቀር ነው ። ሁሉ ነገር ዳይናሚክ ነው ።

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