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[Hawdian]

It's all getting interesting.

In the end, it will be sorted out by international mediators. Tigray will recover all its territory before November 2020.

TPLF will withdraw from Amhara.

Eritreans will exit Tigray lands.

Tigray needs to negotiate for self autonomy rule until attitudes towards them and state-sponsored vilification end.

Tigray will have to apologize to Afar and Somali and restore relations with them so in future the current blockade doesn't happen again.

They need to withdraw from Afar even long before any international mediation and open direct dialogue with Afar elders, agree to pay damages including compensation and urge Afar to mediate Somalis and Tigregu next.

Mustafa is PP just like Awel but both Afar and Somali elders are independent and don't see the point of saving Amhara from a smaller guy.

Amhara war drums; fighting for Ethiopia means fighting to save Amhara. They make it seem like Ethiopia got invaded by Egypt This BS narrative needs to be called out.

[Misraq]

Joe Bideñññnnnnnnnnnnnnn

[Hawdian]

they don't need Biden, they just need to be open minded and take ownership of their wrongs and mistakes.

They are far more open minded than Amhara, sociable but they buying into the fake Sparta propaganda by the few aging TPLF leaders.

They made many mistakes.

They supposed to hand over Badme to Eritrea and instead expand their territories via Alamata or Wolkayt to take more fertile land. Badme is useless and you have lost an ally.

Amhara would have never challenged them.

[Wedi]

they don't need Biden, they just need to be open minded and take ownership of their wrongs and mistakes.

They are far more open minded than Amhara, sociable but they buying into the fake Sparta propaganda by the few aging TPLF leaders.

yup, they are more open

[Abere]

We are already on the eve of the end of TPLF. This is the only end of the story.
By the way, what kind of territory is Tigray to recover? Have you heard of this, < Wasteful girl all day large basket on her back looking for cow dungs where there are now cows roaming in the area> or ከብት ባልዋለበት ኩበት ለቀማ. Tigray is crying on other's land. You made me laugh though, how in helll is international mediator be appropriate for village level thugs. When was the last time international mediator come to arbitrate when one tribe stole herd of camels from another tribe? Tigray is just one tiny province in Ethiopia, don't worth it and after all it has no business in occupying others land. There is no international border between districts and zones.

It's all getting interesting.

In the end, it will be sorted out by international mediators. Tigray will recover all its territory before November 2020.

TPLF will withdraw from Amhara.

Eritreans will exit Tigray lands.

Tigray needs to negotiate for self autonomy rule until attitudes towards them and state-sponsored vilification end.

Tigray will have to apologize to Afar and Somali and restore relations with them so in future the current blockade doesn't happen again.

They need to withdraw from Afar even long before any international mediation and open direct dialogue with Afar elders, agree to pay damages including compensation and urge Afar to mediate Somalis and Tigregu next.

Mustafa is PP just like Awel but both Afar and Somali elders are independent and don't see the point of saving Amhara from a smaller guy.

Amhara war drums; fighting for Ethiopia means fighting to save Amhara. They make it seem like Ethiopia got invaded by Egypt This BS narrative needs to be called out.

[Hawdian]

Yes Amhara and Eritreans will be forced to withdraw from western Tigray.

TPLF will also withdraw from Amhara



Nothing has changed. Amhara can't illegally grab land using the Fed Gov, all its might and neighbouring Eritrea.

In the end, Amhara started a war but got chased hard.

Somali position (not PP Mustafa) should be autonomous Tigray because the State is against them. Addis Ababa can't be trusted that they will treat them as citizens.

Only Amhara benefit from weakened Tigray.

[Blueshift]

Hawdian,

What do you mean by self-rule ? Tigrayans prefer confederation. But, Ethiopia can not make an exception. Either Tigray becomes another killil or it declares its independence, but independence is not feasible. As in the welqait contention, Ethiopia does not have recognized internal boundaries. The parliament can solve that however, neither side would accept against its claim. This is forced issue. No solutions. Might is right in this case. TPLF would have to play Taliban, and Abbiy would have to chase them. Catch 22.

[Tog Wajale E.R.]

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[Abere]

I think your statement regarding Welqait makes some sense, neither side will accept the parliament decision. However, Tigray people have to accept the fact that Welqait, Humera and Raya never been part of Tigray province. And they will remain so under Amhara, they don't deserve to die for this only TPLF though such a pretext is the best brand it could sell to Tigray people. In my opinion, the case regarding Tigray is closed.

Hawdian,

What do you mean by self-rule ? Tigrayans prefer confederation. But, Ethiopia can not make an exception. Either Tigray becomes another killil or it declares its independence, but independence is not feasible. As in the welqait contention, Ethiopia does not have recognized internal boundaries. The parliament can solve that however, neither side would accept against its claim. This is forced issue. No solutions. Might is right in this case. TPLF would have to play Taliban, and Abbiy would have to chase them. Catch 22.

[Blueshift]

Abere,

The only solution I see in this problem is to dissolve the Ethnic boundaries and draw new boundaries with mixed ethnic population in mind. This can only be done through parliament. For example, mix amharas , Tigrayans and Oromos in a single state and give them equal individual right in that particular state. The present system is not feasible. Another solution which you may not agree with , is to give the Welqait and any contested part, their very own region free from Amharas and Tigrayans regional administrations. I am sure neither side would agree on that one too.

[Abere]

I think you made a good point, which is dissolve the ethnic federal system. This is the only ideal solution. Dividing a country into 80 different pieces is just never seen any where else. It is crazy. We probably heard only the plight of Welqait ,Raya or Hiumera (because they belong to the ethnic majority Amhara by ethnic identity) no body knows the plight of the minorities within the ethnic Tigre minorities, by that I mean Erob, Kunama, etc in Tigray. If Tigray is kilili by the same logic Erob or Kunama aspires to be kililil. There will never be a full stop for this non sense. What is basic and fundamental to people is their daily bread, work, building wealth, freedom of movement, peace and security everywhere. No body gives sh!t this ethnic crap thing. Unfortunately, all the activist cadres shout about how important it is, but the reality 50 years of wastage and becoming an open global laughing stock. Showing how much dead bodies harvested and posting it to like and subscribe that. This all is the curse of TPLF - it brought and taught everybody.

Abere,

The only solution I see in this problem is to dissolve the Ethnic boundaries and draw new boundaries with mixed ethnic population in mind. This can only be done through parliament. For example, mix amharas , Tigrayans and Oromos in a single state and give them equal individual right in that particular state. The present system is not feasible. Another solution which you may not agree with , is to give the Welqait and any contested part, their very own region free from Amharas and Tigrayans regional administrations. I am sure neither side would agree on that one too.

[Abe Abraham]

I think you made a good point, which is dissolve the ethnic federal system. This is the only ideal solution. Dividing a country into 80 different pieces is just never seen any where else. It is crazy. We probably heard only the plight of Welqait ,Raya or Hiumera (because they belong to the ethnic majority Amhara by ethnic identity) no body knows the plight of the minorities within the ethnic Tigre minorities, by that I mean Erob, Kunama, etc in Tigray. If Tigray is kilili by the same logic Erob or Kunama aspires to be kililil. There will never be a full stop for this non sense. What is basic and fundamental to people is their daily bread, work, building wealth, freedom of movement, peace and security everywhere. No body gives sh!t this ethnic crap thing. Unfortunately, all the activist cadres shout about how important it is, but the reality 50 years of wastage and becoming an open global laughing stock. Showing how much dead bodies harvested and posting it to like and subscribe that. This all is the curse of TPLF - it brought and taught everybody.

Abere,

May be ethnicity shouldn't matter but border matters a lot . Based on that Welkait,Tsegede and Humera are now part of Gondar. Injustice committed by TPLF has been removed and the people are satisfied.

[Hawdian]

Wolkayt, Himora and the other occupied regions will be returned to Tigray.

This needs to be set as one of the conditions for talks.

I want Somali people to understand the importance of allowing Tigray to maintain their region, culture, identity and language.

Amhara have the history of expansionism. Tigray doesn't. Afar didn't have any region before TPLF but Afar is almost 3x Tigray. They could have easily taken large chunk but didn't because it wasn't theirs.

The ongoing genocide in Wolkayt will come to haunt Amhara and anyone aiding and enabling including Asmara.



So we warn.

Tigray will be as it was before invasion, we may need to create a buffer zone between Amhara and Tigray.

TPLF has to withdraw from Amhara as well and open dialogue with the Afar.

Mustafa is only serving his seat not the interests of Somali people. It was right to give Tigregu a taste of their own medicine but we don't need a road kill and hand them into Amhara colonization.

We need to set limits to everything. Tigregu plays important role in the Ethio eco-system. They are Amhara's worst nightmare. Why take that out?

Eritreans are mostly emotional. Very few think strategic and rational.

I am worried for them when Isaias dies.

This is a war about Amharanization of Tigray using emotional Eritrea to subdue Tigray. Ethiopia doesn't have the means. Eritrea did all the invasion and damages. Ethiopia had few thousand ENDF of mostly southern people. Amhara sent in FANO militia and hayl Liyu. While Eritreans controlled everything, Amhara were killing and raping as they told women "they needed to be cleansed and purified".

When the US forced Eritreans to withdraw, Tigray chased Amhara and the southern dominated ENDF. They ran so fast even blowing up bridges to slow down pursuing Tigregu forces.


Don't ever think I don't know what's going on. I just wanted Tigray roughened up for betraying us. Nothing more. Somalis know but we had our REASON.

We will bring Tigregu to the table when necessary.




The Ras

[ethiopian]

Hawdian is obviously Qondaf who knew the end to his Black Talibans is here.
He is a kunt on a prostitute’s box

[Misraq]

Hawdian is a typical Somalian who changes his view often so folks show no hard feeling to this big booooty Somali man. You know somalia are nomads which means they change location in a blink of an eye so it is a cultural traits for howdian to change his views. He has this love & hate attitude for Amhara, Tegaru and Eritreans.

One thing hawdian never changed is his hate for Oromos. It is deep rooted and I am suspecting some guy by the name of Megerssa may have [deleted] him for a candy or a piece of khat.

[Selam/]

Kichamam Mujahideen - Is Abdi Illey still alive? KIFFU!

Wolkayt, Himora and the other occupied regions will be returned to Tigray.

This needs to be set as one of the conditions for talks.

I want Somali people to understand the importance of allowing Tigray to maintain their region, culture, identity and language.

Amhara have the history of expansionism. Tigray doesn't. Afar didn't have any region before TPLF but Afar is almost 3x Tigray. They could have easily taken large chunk but didn't because it wasn't theirs.

The ongoing genocide in Wolkayt will come to haunt Amhara and anyone aiding and enabling including Asmara.



So we warn.

Tigray will be as it was before invasion, we may need to create a buffer zone between Amhara and Tigray.

TPLF has to withdraw from Amhara as well and open dialogue with the Afar.

Mustafa is only serving his seat not the interests of Somali people. It was right to give Tigregu a taste of their own medicine but we don't need a road kill and hand them into Amhara colonization.

We need to set limits to everything. Tigregu plays important role in the Ethio eco-system. They are Amhara's worst nightmare. Why take that out?

Eritreans are mostly emotional. Very few think strategic and rational.

I am worried for them when Isaias dies.

This is a war about Amharanization of Tigray using emotional Eritrea to subdue Tigray. Ethiopia doesn't have the means. Eritrea did all the invasion and damages. Ethiopia had few thousand ENDF of mostly southern people. Amhara sent in FANO militia and hayl Liyu. While Eritreans controlled everything, Amhara were killing and raping as they told women "they needed to be cleansed and purified".

When the US forced Eritreans to withdraw, Tigray chased Amhara and the southern dominated ENDF. They ran so fast even blowing up bridges to slow down pursuing Tigregu forces.


Don't ever think I don't know what's going on. I just wanted Tigray roughened up for betraying us. Nothing more. Somalis know but we had our REASON.

We will bring Tigregu to the table when necessary.




The Ras

[Hawdian]

Amhara are angry that I know far too much.
There's nothing they can tell me. I'm the one who stated how is everything will play out two years before the war.

2018

Dr Abiy is not behaving like the head of a State but rather a tribal chief who is fulfilling the tribal visions of certain ethnics rather than resolve the country's ethnic tensions. He is adding more fuel into the fire.

No doubt his entertainment of Dictator Isaias visiting Gondar will be seen as an act of provocation and declaration of war in Tigray. Isaias will no doubt support the diminish of Tigray and the re-drawing of its borders where Amhara swallows the largest junk, some are given to Afar region and the rest including Badme will become part of Eritrea.

Tigray should not down play the Dictator's war games. There must be action ahead of his visit in a way that picks up international attention and Abiy is exposed for who he truly is------a fake head of "state" declaring war on his own country in cahoot with foreign nations.

The only way to chase the old dictator is total invasion of Wolkait, Raya, Humra and increasing the international awareness of the issue.

No doubt Isaias loves conflicts. It's how he justifies his dictatorial rule of the rogue state.

Before sanctions are lifted he is already instigating the next conflict---an ethnic conflict within Ethiopia.

The people of Tigray must unite and deny the old dictator the visit which will only back and validate Bahir Dar and Abiy's claim that disputed regions are Amhara Kilil and not Tigray.


There should be better ways to resolve these issues however it's clear they wish to destroy a region within a country using its own "head" of State and neighbor with deep interests and animosities towards the people of Tigray Region.


The best way to respond is complete invasion and showing the international community how Isaias and Abiy are tormenting the people of Tigray, provoking them by "visiting" a disputed region during when ethnic tensions are at all time high in the region.

Abiy made his position clear that he is not head of Ethiopia but head of Amhara by day and head of Oromia by night.

The act of declaration of war by two enemies must not be taken lightly by the people of Tigray. If Amhara and Tigray have issues, others should not get involved. Amhara is large enough to defend itself.

Nothing changed about my views, some spank for TPLF was needed.

But we don't support Amharanization of Amhara's number one killer - Tigray.

We don't need another submissive Galla.

[Zack]

What ever bad tigrayans did
Under no circumstance we should entertain Amhara to re colonize Ethiopia under abysinia banner. Amhara is hungry for new lands and they wish to portray tigrayans as the most evildoing people. But what they don't remember is that we are old enough to remember what haile sellasie and mengistu did.

Dr Zackovich.

[Misraq]

Sorry lads Tigray is no longer in the top division. It is now effectively relegated to it's rightful and we'll deserved 3rd division. Sidama & Afar are coming out stronger than Tigray this days.

Amhara got the blessing and sympathy from all beher behereseboch particularly the three major ones (Afar, Sidama and Mustefes Somali. Eritrea now also a supporter of Amhara. Amhara didn't get this support by force. But by genuine, kindfulness and principled approach)

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[Hawdian]

What ever bad tigrayans did
Under no circumstance we should entertain Amhara to re colonize Ethiopia under abysinia banner. Amhara is hungry for new lands and they wish to portray tigrayans as the most evildoing people. But what they don't remember is that we are old enough to remember what haile sellasie and mengistu did.

Dr Zackovich.

Absolutely and I want more Somalis to understand and see things more clear. I may throw the ball from the "other" side but that's because I understand Ethiopia very well and we need to maintain that balance.

We don't want TPLF over running Abiy and so when they were on the offensive it was necessary to be against TPLF. Likewise when Amhara are trying to massacre Tigregu under the disguise of "Ethiopia vs Junta" as if Junta are foreign forces, we put an end to it.

Those Habesha know I know them well and foresee their lame plans, this is what upsets them.

Tigray is vital to controlling pests like rat over population.

Wa inad sida uu aragtan maha xanuun ba ii so gadhay sida qolada tiirada badan.

Well done Dr Zackovich