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Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Educator » 21 Aug 2021, 12:47

Amhara is the very reason that Ethiopia has been in chaos for the last 50 years. It is suffering from inferiority complex inside but rather than dealing with it it pretends to ignore it and display a farse percetion of itself in the form of rhetoric and shilela. It never organized itself and refuses to organize; it never took up arms and fight off its enemies; it keeps telling itself false propaganda about being the custodian of the entity, Ethiopia. Its elites chose second class citizenship and conviced the rest of the Amhara people to accept it because they are the chosen Ethiopians of the past and the future, but not the present. The elites keep carrying water to either woyanes or OPDOs. And now their sword is only sharper to their own side and kill only themselves.

In short all this mayhem, is targeting Amhara because they accept responsibility for all the problems the country has ever faced in its entire history. Some how the amharas get satisfaction from it because it gives them credit for the unity of the country and the past glories.

Forget the past, Amharas, if you want to be part of the solution for the current problem, then organize, arm youself to the teeth, and refuse to be bullied . The only way to prevent war is by being ready for it. I am sick and tired of seeing victims in ethiopia that are always Amharas . If it wasn't for you Amharas, Ethiopia would have been a very peaceful place.
And most of all, bring all the Amhara ethnic group that are living outside of the Amhara region as minorities. There are plenty of resources in the Amhara region to support its own people.

Please note the title should have said "Is Amhara mindset the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?".
If the title of this posting offends you, just know that my intentions are not to disrespect or generalize the Amhara people, but to express my frustration to what's going on in the country. And I hate to see the Amhara region as being the least sovereign region of all the regions. And all hatred is targeting Amhar people.
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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Aba » 21 Aug 2021, 13:34

It's the Axis of Evil - Mamo qillo, Issu jillo, and the chauvinists that need to be taken care of and treated.
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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by free-tembien » 21 Aug 2021, 13:51

no, you agames are the cancer that don't want to go and live by its own. give us budget, give us aid, feed us please, is your daily cry. :lol:
amahra is indeed organizing and arming itself, most importantly amhara is hunting agames like chiladas :lol:
thank you tplf for entering into amhara :lol: you did a big service for us :lol:

hunting agames :lol:
https://vimeo.com/580999908

the new recruites of amhara regional forces


see, all your blabbering about amhara is just in your agame head but we never expect anything else from our most evil #1 enemy
Educator wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 12:47
Amhara is the very reason that Ethiopia has been in chaos for the last 50 years. It is suffering from inferiority complex inside but rather than dealing with it it pretends to ignore it and display a farse percetion of itself in the form of rhetoric and shilela. It never organized itself and refuses to organize; it never took up arms and fight off its enemies; it keeps telling itself false propaganda about being the custodian of the entity, Ethiopia. Its elites chose second class citizenship and conviced the rest of the amhar people to accept it because they are the chosen Ethiopians of the past and the future, but not the present. The elites keep carrying water to either woyanes or OPDOs. And now their sword it only sharper to their own side and kill only themselves.

In short all this mayhem, is targeting Amhara because thye accept responsibility for all the problems the country has ever faced in itt entire history. Some how the amharas get satisfaction frot it because it gives them credit for the unity of the country and the past glories.

Forget the past, Amharas, if you want to be part of the solution for the current problem, then organize, arm youself to the teeth, and refused to be bullied . The only way to prevent war is by being ready for it. I am sick and tired of seeing victims in ethiopia that are always Amharas . If it wasn't for you Amharas, Ethiopia would have been a very peaceful place.
And most of all, bring all the Amhara ethnic group that are living outside of the Amhara region as minorities. There plenty of resources in the Amhara region to support its own people.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 21 Aug 2021, 14:17

Educator wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 12:47
Amhara is the very reason that Ethiopia has been in chaos for the last 50 years. It is suffering from inferiority complex inside but rather than dealing with it it pretends to ignore it and display a farse percetion of itself in the form of rhetoric and shilela. It never organized itself and refuses to organize; it never took up arms and fight off its enemies; it keeps telling itself false propaganda about being the custodian of the entity, Ethiopia. Its elites chose second class citizenship and conviced the rest of the amhar people to accept it because they are the chosen Ethiopians of the past and the future, but not the present. The elites keep carrying water to either woyanes or OPDOs. And now their sword it only sharper to their own side and kill only themselves.

In short all this mayhem, is targeting Amhara because thye accept responsibility for all the problems the country has ever faced in itt entire history. Some how the amharas get satisfaction frot it because it gives them credit for the unity of the country and the past glories.

Forget the past, Amharas, if you want to be part of the solution for the current problem, then organize, arm youself to the teeth, and refused to be bullied . The only way to prevent war is by being ready for it. I am sick and tired of seeing victims in ethiopia that are always Amharas . If it wasn't for you Amharas, Ethiopia would have been a very peaceful place.
And most of all, bring all the Amhara ethnic group that are living outside of the Amhara region as minorities. There plenty of resources in the Amhara region to support its own people.
ገና ትለፈልፋለህ፣ ለፍልፍ።
Amhara is the "cancer" for whatever reason, you claimed, then you blabber about Amhara the victim (victim is the cancer, that Ethiopia needs to treat), which needs to defend itself, according to your own same prescription. At the same time you also blame the same Amhara, if it was not for the Amhara, Ethiopia would have been a very peaceful place. Woow!

ገና ትለፈልፋለህ፣ ግፉ ነዉ ና።
የ ድንቁርና ጥግ

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by EPRDF » 21 Aug 2021, 15:53

Wendime Educator,

First of all, you need to change the title of your thread from {is Amhara the cancer } to {Is Amhara mindset the cancer.} Calling one social group a cancer is very indecent. I hope you didn’t say that intentionally. You still have the time change that. Thank you.

Is Amhara mindset cancer to Ethiopian politics? My answer is yes, and it is also very dangerous to all of us and our country to sustain as a nation.

Modern-day Ethiopia had been created by Menilik the II, an Amhara from Ankober county of North Shoa. He brought this nation-state of Ethiopia roughly hundred thirty years ago with the help of European Muskteers namely Italians and French. He expanded his jurisdiction from central Ethiopia toward east, west and south by the means of firearms after slaughtering many indigenous people in the process.

It is Ok though like I said this happened a hundred thirty years ago, and every nation-state of we see today had come into existence by means of the arm the same way Menilik the II centralized Ethiopia.

Nonetheless, most nation states of our planet, which were centralized by force, especially in the west, had managed to deliver good governance that upheld democratic and human rights to the subjects that once centralized in bloodshed and being ruled now.

But in Amhara’s case of Menilik the II Ethiopia, basic democratic and human rights have never been practiced, they lived permanently absent. They (Amharas) have been in power for over a century, and things were getting from bad to worse for the average citizens in such a long time of their rule of administration. This is the grandiose Amhara politician’s failure which they are unable to see.

Sadly, we notice in the current political trend and its dynamic to bring back the old system of EHIOPIAWINET by the name of Ethiopian unity once again. This mindset is the driving force that engaged in battle in the north with the rebellion of Tigray claiming that Tigray force is the cancer of Ethiopia.

The main conflict of the north is not only Amhara vs Tigraway over disputed territory, but it is rather ideological. The main objective of this war is to demolish the current structure of the federal system which granted nations and nationalities self-rule.

Winning over TDF or eliminating the entire Tigray race won’t solve Ethiopia’s political dilemma.

Assuming Tigray vanished tonight, is an Amhara mindset aware that there are hundreds of thousands of Somali, southerners, Gambela, Gumuz, Afar and half a million Oromo leyu haile is on alert to defend what TDF is fighting for now in any threat posed against the system that granted them a full Ethiopian citizenship status? I really doubt it!

That is why I always argue that instead of addressing the issue of nationality, going onto killing TPLF or jailing ethno nationalists to silence would not be the solution to the complex Ethiopian politics, it is rather a menace to the Ethiopian state and its continuity as a nation.


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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Hawdian » 21 Aug 2021, 16:11

Topics like this should be deleted.

Amhara hatred is TPLF and OLF views.

It has nothing to do with the rest.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 21 Aug 2021, 16:16

EPDRF wrote “assuming Tigray vanished tonight … there are hundreds of thousands of Somali, southerners, Gambella, … is on alert to defend what TPLF is fighting for.” What a logic indeed ! Those mentioned wait until TPLF is vanished to fight for what TPLF is standing for. However until it vanishes they give a hard blow to the same organization. Why the need to make this nonsense, bizarre argument ?
It might have given the writer a false sense of self delusion. In his mind at least the Amharas are the only enemies all Ethiopians are against for.
I mean it is really annoying to witness some people deluding themselves for a very long time.
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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 21 Aug 2021, 16:17

EPRDF wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 15:53
Wendime Educator,

First of all, you need to change the title of your thread from {is Amhara the cancer } to {Is Amhara mindset the cancer.} Calling one social group a cancer is very indecent. I hope you didn’t say that intentionally. You still have the time change that. Thank you.

Is Amhara mindset cancer to Ethiopian politics? My answer is yes, and it is also very dangerous to all of us and our country to sustain as a nation.

Modern-day Ethiopia had been created by Menilik the II, an Amhara from Ankober county of North Shoa. He brought this nation-state of Ethiopia roughly hundred thirty years ago with the help of European Muskteers namely Italians and French. He expanded his jurisdiction from central Ethiopia toward east, west and south by the means of firearms after slaughtering many indigenous people in the process.

It is Ok though like I said this happened a hundred thirty years ago, and every nation-state of we see today had come into existence by means of the arm the same way Menilik the II centralized Ethiopia.

Nonetheless, most nation states of our planet, which were centralized by force, especially in the west, had managed to deliver good governance that upheld democratic and human rights to the subjects that once centralized in bloodshed and being ruled now.

But in Amhara’s case of Menilik the II Ethiopia, basic democratic and human rights have never been practiced, they lived permanently absent. They (Amharas) have been in power for over a century, and things were getting from bad to worse for the average citizens in such a long time of their rule of administration. This is the grandiose Amhara politician’s failure which they are unable to see.

Sadly, we notice in the current political trend and its dynamic to bring back the old system of EHIOPIAWINET by the name of Ethiopian unity once again. This mindset is the driving force that engaged in battle in the north with the rebellion of Tigray claiming that Tigray force is the cancer of Ethiopia.

The main conflict of the north is not only Amhara vs Tigraway over disputed territory, but it is rather ideological. The main objective of this war is to demolish the current structure of the federal system which granted nations and nationalities self-rule.

Winning over TDF or eliminating the entire Tigray race won’t solve Ethiopia’s political dilemma.

Assuming Tigray vanished tonight, is an Amhara mindset aware that there are hundreds of thousands of Somali, southerners, Gambela, Gumuz, Afar and half a million Oromo leyu haile is on alert to defend what TDF is fighting for now in any threat posed against the system that granted them a full Ethiopian citizenship status? I really doubt it!

That is why I always argue that instead of addressing the issue of nationality, going onto killing TPLF or jailing ethno nationalists to silence would not be the solution to the complex Ethiopian politics, it is rather a menace to the Ethiopian state and its continuity as a nation.

Here another desperate, talking about something he/she can't see or hear.

Just present your case in the two sentences I highlighted above, if you are sober. Desperation will not let you discuss rationally.

Ethno nationalists are roaming around as they wish and no one touched them, it is your big lie. What the ethno nationalists or anybody else are not allowed to do is hanging innocent citizens of the country in public, terrorizing the people that didn't align with their line of thinking all in the name of political freedom. This line of action has nothing to do with being an ethno nationalist or not, it is depriving the freedom of others in the name of fighting for freedom. Those deserved to be locked up and need to stay there so that the rest enjoy the fruitions of freedom.

Where did you find out the main objective of this war that you are claiming about here? mind sharing?

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Educator » 21 Aug 2021, 16:33

EPRDF,

Yes, I agree I should have said Amhara mindset is the thing I had a problem with. But I think I should leave the title as it is in case it wakes up the Amhara elites and make them change course. Other than that I am 100% in agreement with you.

To all other readers, if the title of this posting offends you, just know that my intentions are not to disrespect or generalize the Amhara people, but to express my frustration to what's going on in the country. And I hate to see the Amhara region as being the least sovereign region of all the regions. And all hatred is targeting Amhar people.
EPRDF wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 15:53
Wendime Educator,

First of all, you need to change the title of your thread from {is Amhara the cancer } to {Is Amhara mindset the cancer.} Calling one social group a cancer is very indecent. I hope you didn’t say that intentionally. You still have the time change that. Thank you.

Is Amhara mindset cancer to Ethiopian politics? My answer is yes, and it is also very dangerous to all of us and our country to sustain as a nation.

Modern-day Ethiopia had been created by Menilik the II, an Amhara from Ankober county of North Shoa. He brought this nation-state of Ethiopia roughly hundred thirty years ago with the help of European Muskteers namely Italians and French. He expanded his jurisdiction from central Ethiopia toward east, west and south by the means of firearms after slaughtering many indigenous people in the process.

It is Ok though like I said this happened a hundred thirty years ago, and every nation-state of we see today had come into existence by means of the arm the same way Menilik the II centralized Ethiopia.

Nonetheless, most nation states of our planet, which were centralized by force, especially in the west, had managed to deliver good governance that upheld democratic and human rights to the subjects that once centralized in bloodshed and being ruled now.

But in Amhara’s case of Menilik the II Ethiopia, basic democratic and human rights have never been practiced, they lived permanently absent. They (Amharas) have been in power for over a century, and things were getting from bad to worse for the average citizens in such a long time of their rule of administration. This is the grandiose Amhara politician’s failure which they are unable to see.

Sadly, we notice in the current political trend and its dynamic to bring back the old system of EHIOPIAWINET by the name of Ethiopian unity once again. This mindset is the driving force that engaged in battle in the north with the rebellion of Tigray claiming that Tigray force is the cancer of Ethiopia.

The main conflict of the north is not only Amhara vs Tigraway over disputed territory, but it is rather ideological. The main objective of this war is to demolish the current structure of the federal system which granted nations and nationalities self-rule.

Winning over TDF or eliminating the entire Tigray race won’t solve Ethiopia’s political dilemma.

Assuming Tigray vanished tonight, is an Amhara mindset aware that there are hundreds of thousands of Somali, southerners, Gambela, Gumuz, Afar and half a million Oromo leyu haile is on alert to defend what TDF is fighting for now in any threat posed against the system that granted them a full Ethiopian citizenship status? I really doubt it!

That is why I always argue that instead of addressing the issue of nationality, going onto killing TPLF or jailing ethno nationalists to silence would not be the solution to the complex Ethiopian politics, it is rather a menace to the Ethiopian state and its continuity as a nation.


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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by EPRDF » 21 Aug 2021, 20:20

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 16:16
EPDRF wrote “assuming Tigray vanished tonight … there are hundreds of thousands of Somali, southerners, Gambella, … is on alert to defend what TPLF is fighting for.” What a logic indeed ! Those mentioned wait until TPLF is vanished to fight for what TPLF is standing for. However until it vanishes they give a hard blow to the same organization. Why the need to make this nonsense, bizarre argument ?
It might have given the writer a false sense of self delusion. In his mind at least the Amharas are the only enemies all Ethiopians are against for.
I mean it is really annoying to witness some people deluding themselves for a very long time.
Wendime sam Yeluhal,

In Afar regional state, there are Afaris fighting alongside TDF, and there are also Afaris who are fighting against TDF by lining up next to ENDF. The same is true in Oromia and other regions as well. Even in the Somali regional state, there is a new report that a faction to have aroused to join TDF and OLA by signing a treaty. This is the truth on the ground.

If you think that nationalities, who are fighting against TDF, are supporting and dying for the cause of Ethiopiawinet of the Amhara version, you are naive.

They fight TDF because they were sick and tired of Woyane’s misrule of the last twenty seven years. There are victims of all nationalities who still bear and live with the scars they took from Wayne's human rights abuse of the past. Other than that, the vast majority of Ethnies of Ethiopia have no fundamental differences with Woayne be it on the current federal structure or its governing constitution, which Amharas are determined to dismantle.

Nation and nationalities, who sided with the government, their fight is virtually against former Woyane leadership, against the X ruling clique, and not against the Tigray people or against the ideology of Woyaneism.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Sadacha Macca » 21 Aug 2021, 20:35

The average Amhara is a good person, you can trust them and work with them, etc: but the Amhara elites, the urban ones who are a sizeable or loud minority, who have not built even a single clinic or anything in Amhara proper, are the ones who cause a lot of issues-i.e. wanting to dismantle federalism, insulting the entire Oromo nation or having an unhealthy obsessive type of hatred for Oromo's & Oromo nationalism, etc.
It's a mentality, because even non-Amhara's, can have this kind of thinking, i.e. the gurage brother Dr. Berhanu Nega.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Wedi » 21 Aug 2021, 20:37

Educator wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 12:47
Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?
hummm!! You called all 30-45 million Amhara people "Cancer"!!

Just image if you have a nuclear power at your hand, you would never hesitate to eliminate all Amharas.

'Thank' you for saying it clearly!!

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Educator » 21 Aug 2021, 20:41

Oops. You forgot to cut out the question mark from your quoted statement.
Wedi wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 20:37
Educator wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 12:47
Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?
hummm!! You called all 30-45 million Amhara people "Cancer"!!

Just image if you have a nuclear power at your hand, you would never hesitate to eliminate all Amharas.

'Thank' you for saying it clearly!!

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Educator » 21 Aug 2021, 21:35

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 21 Aug 2021, 21:50

EPDRF right now is the most confused person in this forum. He argues Nations and nationalities — my choice, Ethiopians — who sided with the government are not against Tigray’s people. True. He also said they are against the Weyane ruling class, but not the ideology of Weyanism. What a tortured argument. Who better identifies Weyanism than the Weyane ruling class .
Here is the problem : if the premise of an argument is flawed everything that follows would crumble within its own weight.
Start to argue saying the Amharas are not enemies of any people. You then write a flawless argument because it is true.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Aba » 21 Aug 2021, 22:02

Where were you when Abiy aka Mamo qillo regurgitated the same "cancer" statement, statement unbecoming of a head of state?
Hawdian wrote:
21 Aug 2021, 16:11
Topics like this should be deleted.

Amhara hatred is TPLF and OLF views.

It has nothing to do with the rest.

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Re: Is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat?

Post by Somaliman » 22 Aug 2021, 08:10

Not only "is Amhara the cancer Ethiopia needs to treat", but it also poses a significant hindrance to efforts to effectively combat such a deep rooted cancer, which is the root of all ills in Ethiopia.

Ethiopians starting to identify Amhara as the Ethiopian cancer is a good start, which should be complimented.

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