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Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 27 May 2021, 15:35

Why is Joe Beiden’s Administration rushing so much to hold a small country back from its quest for growth and self-sufficiency of feeding itself?

The current US-Government administration looks like, looking at the number and the rate of statements that it issues condemning and sanctioning Ethiopia and its government, that its only business currently is its meddling in the internal affairs of Ethiopia, a member state of the UN, which has its headquarters in the US itself. This is a shameless, if not illegal, meddling of a member state of the UN in the internal affairs of another member country of the same body.

In the latest round of statements Joseph Robinette Biden, current president of the US, begins by writing the following:
“I am deeply concerned by the escalating violence and the hardening of regional and ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia”.
This is very shameful distortion of the actual condition on the ground not to be expected from a head of state of a great country like the US. If this is not a purposeful manufacturing of lies to pave the way for the ulterior motive his statement (and the other similar statements that came from his administration recently with regard to Ethiopia) are espousing, which the issuers don’t say, we should have been told, escalating in reference to which point in time and space, he should have elaborated the number of multiple parts that he is referring to in his opening statement, but he ignored that and continued his ranting.

Up until now they were purposefully using Tigray as a pretext for their clear meddling in the internal affairs of a sovereign member state of the UN. Now it seems that Tigray alone is no more giving the necessary weight his government for the purpose of what they are carrying around and he must add also about ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia, clearly also outside of Tigray.

The current American president also wrote the following:
“Political wounds cannot be healed through force of arms”
as a leader of a country which has been going around the world and using the same force of arms that he is trying to lecture his readers here about it will not heal political wounds, the same tool his country used to devastate many sovereign states and all members of the UN. The world is insulted in its intelligence here, I am wordless to read such statements coming from such a hypocrite.

We are told a sovereign state and member of the UN has got no right to defend itself against a rouge but tiny section of its own society that wanted to topple the legally constituted government and usurp power one more time by means of barrel of the gun and attacked the national defense force for this purpose but his America is entitled to go around the world and instigate violence and ruin many nations, using the same "force of arms". This is the justice we are told the world should live in.

Is the man so ignorant that he issues a statement in his name that states the following?
“Doing so will preserve the unity and territorial integrity of the state, and ensure the protection of the Ethiopian people and the delivery of urgently needed assistance.”
Now suddenly he is more concerned about the unity and territorial integrity of Ethiopia more than the Ethiopians themselves do. Is there any more hypocrisy than this, please help me out, I am wordless here?

Wait a moment, why he faild to say something about how he is going to address his "deep concern" with which he started his writing by claiming about “regional and ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia”, which he claimed to have been deeply concerned about? May I ask how this demand from him is going to alleviate the problem he just “deeply concerned about”?

The world is insulted in its intelligence, nothing I can say. He is all over the places in this short statement of not more than 1 page (he talks about GERD, about Ethiopian Unity, about working with United nations and the African Union, about his knowledge of our shared vision, more than we do) what not? Is it not the United States of America that ignored the UNSC resolution and opted to go alone and meddle itself in the internal affairs of an independent state of the world we all share, after being defeated there on multiple times? Which UN is he wishing to work with now here? Man….

I am ashamed of him. If another world leader was to issue such a statement over the internal affairs of a sovereign member state of the UN, then that leader would have received a barrage of condemnation from all over the places, but we know we are in a just world.

I am wordless! Death be to Joe Biden!

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 27 May 2021, 15:47

No, DTT Biden is not a bad guy. He has been intentionally misinformed. There should I believe be an investigation to be had: Do the former Obama appointees who be friended with TPLF were bought ? It seems a stretch to some, but worth it a try.

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 27 May 2021, 16:31

Sam,

in my view consistency says volumes when it comes to someone's standpoints and to tell if the person is driven by honesty or pure hypocrsy.

I am not enraged more in the content of what the purported statement of a leader of a great country issued in his name than in the clear lack of consistency in the message the statement tries to convey. Why does that happen?

Do you mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about (in this case writing about)?

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by temari » 27 May 2021, 16:57

DefendTheTruth wrote:
27 May 2021, 16:31
Sam,

in my view consistency says volumes when it comes to someone's standpoints and to tell if the person is driven by honesty or pure hypocrisy.

I am not enraged more in the content of what the purported statement of a leader of a great country issued in his name than in the clear lack of consistency in the message the statement tries to convey. Why does that happen?

Do you mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about (in this case writing about)?
DefendTheTruth, I agree on the reckless behavior of the US administration but we must also look at the mirror and see how bad we performed in both the media and foreign diplomacy.

PM Abiy said there were no Eritrean troops in Tigray and then later admitted their existence.
He said no single civilian died in the war and later admitted the killing of civilians and rape etc.
Just recently he went to Asmara and told the world that Eritrean troops will be leaving immediately, yet again that was not the case.

All in all our government is making the US and west very nervous. It is becoming clear for them that what Abiy and our government say has no value and can't be trusted. This is purely of our making and we should not blame anyone that the word of our government is not trustworthy. The government demonstrated it many times.

I don't want to start about the failure in the media front and in the lack of lobbying and diplomacy activity. Just from what the PM has been saying and actually delivering there is a huge gab but our government still insists that the world should believe what its says. How? Every promise of our government was broken. How are you expecting the world to believe you? Why make promises in the first place if you can't keep them?

Sorry, but the blame goes first and foremost to our own government and its incompetency.

The government need to come up with an exit strategy and a reasonable time table to end the conflict in Tigray and for the withdrawal of Eritrean troops. If it lacks the capacity to do so then it has to communicate to Ethiopians and its partners frankly and not come up with empty promises. The government needs to start to play with open cards and show to its people and our partners if it is unable to do the job and ask Ethiopians for help or ask the international community for peace keeping mission or whatever. The current status quo is unacceptable.

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 27 May 2021, 17:19

temari wrote:
27 May 2021, 16:57
DefendTheTruth wrote:
27 May 2021, 16:31
Sam,

in my view consistency says volumes when it comes to someone's standpoints and to tell if the person is driven by honesty or pure hypocrisy.

I am not enraged more in the content of what the purported statement of a leader of a great country issued in his name than in the clear lack of consistency in the message the statement tries to convey. Why does that happen?

Do you mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about (in this case writing about)?
DefendTheTruth, I agree on the reckless behavior of the US administration but we must also look at the mirror and see how bad we performed in both the media and foreign diplomacy.

PM Abiy said there were no Eritrean troops in Tigray and then later admitted their existence.
He said no single civilian died in the war and later admitted the killing of civilians and rape etc.
Just recently he went to Asmara and told the world that Eritrean troops will be leaving immediately, yet again that was not the case.

All in all our government is making the US and west very nervous. It is becoming clear for them that what Abiy and our government say has no value and can't be trusted. This is purely of our making and we should not blame anyone that the word of our government is not trustworthy. The government demonstrated it many times.

I don't want to start about the failure in the media front and in the lack of lobbying and diplomacy activity. Just from what the PM has been saying and actually delivering there is a huge gab but our government still insists that the world should believe what its says. How? Every promise of our government was broken. How are you expecting the world to believe you? Why make promises in the first place if you can't keep them?

Sorry, but the blame goes first and foremost to our own government and its incompetency.

The government need to come up with an exit strategy and a reasonable time table to end the conflict in Tigray and for the withdrawal of Eritrean troops. If it lacks the capacity to do so then it has to communicate to Ethiopians and its partners frankly and not come up with empty promises. The government needs to start to play with open cards and show to its people and our partners if it is unable to do the job and ask Ethiopians for help or ask the international community for peace keeping mission or whatever. The current status quo is unacceptable.
temari,

for you it seems that the issue is still only about Tigray, for Joe Biden it is more than Tigray, just read his statement.

Joe Biden started his statement saying the following, just to remind you on that:
"“I am deeply concerned by the escalating violence and the hardening of regional and ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia”.

He didn't elaborate about how much the "scalation" is and in reference to what (time, space) etc. I understand "multiple parts of Ethiopia" is not in reference to just Tigray, so the issue has already moved beyond Tigray.

"An exit strategy and a reasonable time table to end conflict"? Is this anything short of saying "reinstate TPLF in Tigray" for which we have paid that much price?

Others are already dying for this (to see this), like Jawar Mohammed, who reportedly restarted his "hunger strike" from within his prison cells to show his solidarity with TPLF.

If TPLF may return to power in Ethiopia (in Tigray) then say good bye to Ethiopia, I am not sure if you are someone who could miss this simple logic.

Joe Biden is "deeply concerned" about ethnic divisions in Ethiopia but he has also the audacity to defend TPLF, who is the prime agent of division in Ethiopia.
This is simple hypocrisy!

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by temari » 27 May 2021, 18:06

DefendTheTruth wrote:
27 May 2021, 17:19
temari wrote:
27 May 2021, 16:57
DefendTheTruth wrote:
27 May 2021, 16:31
Sam,

in my view consistency says volumes when it comes to someone's standpoints and to tell if the person is driven by honesty or pure hypocrisy.

I am not enraged more in the content of what the purported statement of a leader of a great country issued in his name than in the clear lack of consistency in the message the statement tries to convey. Why does that happen?

Do you mean that he doesn't know what he is talking about (in this case writing about)?
DefendTheTruth, I agree on the reckless behavior of the US administration but we must also look at the mirror and see how bad we performed in both the media and foreign diplomacy.

PM Abiy said there were no Eritrean troops in Tigray and then later admitted their existence.
He said no single civilian died in the war and later admitted the killing of civilians and rape etc.
Just recently he went to Asmara and told the world that Eritrean troops will be leaving immediately, yet again that was not the case.

All in all our government is making the US and west very nervous. It is becoming clear for them that what Abiy and our government say has no value and can't be trusted. This is purely of our making and we should not blame anyone that the word of our government is not trustworthy. The government demonstrated it many times.

I don't want to start about the failure in the media front and in the lack of lobbying and diplomacy activity. Just from what the PM has been saying and actually delivering there is a huge gab but our government still insists that the world should believe what its says. How? Every promise of our government was broken. How are you expecting the world to believe you? Why make promises in the first place if you can't keep them?

Sorry, but the blame goes first and foremost to our own government and its incompetency.

The government need to come up with an exit strategy and a reasonable time table to end the conflict in Tigray and for the withdrawal of Eritrean troops. If it lacks the capacity to do so then it has to communicate to Ethiopians and its partners frankly and not come up with empty promises. The government needs to start to play with open cards and show to its people and our partners if it is unable to do the job and ask Ethiopians for help or ask the international community for peace keeping mission or whatever. The current status quo is unacceptable.
temari,

for you it seems that the issue is still only about Tigray, for Joe Biden it is more than Tigray, just read his statement.

Joe Biden started his statement saying the following, just to remind you on that:
"“I am deeply concerned by the escalating violence and the hardening of regional and ethnic divisions in multiple parts of Ethiopia”.

He didn't elaborate about how much the "scalation" is and in reference to what (time, space) etc. I understand "multiple parts of Ethiopia" is not in reference to just Tigray, so the issue has already moved beyond Tigray.

"An exit strategy and a reasonable time table to end conflict"? Is this anything short of saying "reinstate TPLF in Tigray" for which we have paid that much price?

Others are already dying for this (to see this), like Jawar Mohammed, who reportedly restarted his "hunger strike" from within his prison cells to show his solidarity with TPLF.

If TPLF may return to power in Ethiopia (in Tigray) then say good bye to Ethiopia, I am not sure if you are someone who could miss this simple logic.

Joe Biden is "deeply concerned" about ethnic divisions in Ethiopia but he has also the audacity to defend TPLF, who is the prime agent of division in Ethiopia.
This is simple hypocrisy!
When the government is promising and failing again and again to fulfill its promises, it is understandable that the US becomes very nervous. The current status quo can't go on forever.

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Re: Why is the Biden Administration so reckless when it comes to Ethiopia these days?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 28 May 2021, 06:06

temari wrote:
27 May 2021, 18:06
When the government is promising and failing again and again to fulfill its promises, it is understandable that the US becomes very nervous. The current status quo can't go on forever.
You start from a wrong premise and end-up with a wrong conclusion.

For you the main objective of the Biden Administration is its "deep concern" for Tigray or other multiple places in our country, which the statement tries to allude to.

With this premise your are destined to end up at the wrong conclusion, no matter what you are trying to bring up as a new argument.

America has no time and appetite for your alleged violation of human rights to be truly concerned about. If that is what it is concerned about, then there is no need to cross oceans and travel as far as Africa or else where to defend human rights, it is happening at its own door-step, inside the USA territory itself. Didn't you know that?

If human rights is not its main concern, then there is also no reason to get nervous about it, this is a silly argument.

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