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Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by AbebeB » 30 Apr 2021, 21:58

So-called Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara in Ethiopia. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara
Procedure: if any Amhara scholar is ready to go, first submit 500 words abstract here and then floor will be open for audio. The following census that reveal no Amhara ethnicity in the traditionally named Amhara region would be the basis of the debate.

የአማራ ክልል ከዚህ በታች የተዘረዘሩ ብሄረሰቦችን ያቀፈች ናት።
  • በጎጀምና ላልበላ አገው ብሄረሰብ 8,000,000
  • የቅማንት ብሄረሰብ በጎንደር እና በጎጀም 5,000,000
  • የኦሮሞ ብሄረሰብ በወሎ እና ጎጀም መተከል 5,000,000
  • የወይጦ ብሄረሰብ በባህር ዳር፣ደብረ ብርሃን 3,000,000
  • የሽናሻ ብሄረሰብ በጎንደር 3,000,000
  • የአርጎባ ብሄረሰብ በምንጃር 2,000,000
  • የጋፋት ብሄረሰብ በደብረ ማርቆስ በጎንደር 1,500,000
  • የአዊ ብሄረሰብ በጎጀም በላልበላ 1,500,000 ናቸወ። የነዚህ ድምር 30,700,000 ነው።
አማራ እንደ ፊንፊኔ ኮንዶሚኒየም ተሰረቀ እንዴ?

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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by Lakeshore » 30 Apr 2021, 22:15

There is a lack of moral equivalency to debate with wannabe human beings who devour pregnant women and eat the fetus and we Amhars the measure of human beings. God-fearing, respectful, honest, and hospitable with lots of culture, literature, and cooperation with neighbors in a contrast to Agames and Gallas. who said theft is a job and the Gallas who bless and send their young to kill their neighbors and kidnap their children and called it Gudifecha.

So you should upgrade to humanity and abandon killing, looting, and contemplating others' land and home.
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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by Noble Amhara » 30 Apr 2021, 22:23

Agame there also is no Tigray (Eritrean language) and Oromo (kenya+somalia borana zone)as well we can trace your Saho erob roots in savage vooodoo agame land your obsession on us is beyond normal you must visit a hospital because you are burning by the power of Amhara Kilil

Debating with you is like debating the devil in short Amhara is a branch of Abysinnian Habesha highland peoples all abysinnians are related to Amhara except Saho agame


Here is orgin of Oromo in kenya


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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by Lakeshore » 01 May 2021, 23:12

There is a lack of moral equivalency to debate with wannabe human beings who devour pregnant women and eat the fetus and we Amhars the measure of human beings. God-fearing, respectful, honest, and hospitable with lots of culture, literature, and cooperation with neighbors in a contrast to Agames and Gallas. who said theft is a job and the Gallas who bless and send their young to kill their neighbors and kidnap their children and called it Gudifecha.

So you should upgrade to humanity and abandon killing, looting, and contemplating others' land and home.

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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by EthioRedSea » 02 May 2021, 00:39

There are Amharas everywhere in Ethiopia. They migrated from Bale and Wellega to Shoa due to attacks from Oromos, who migrated from The Congo. Agew people are also Bantu migrants from Central Africa and West Africa. they defeated Tigray and Amhara. the Agew are not Ethiopians they are from West Africa. Lalibella was an Agew or Amhara - we do not know. Laibella, Gonder' Wello and Shoa were Amhara settlements long time before the Oromo migrated to the area and destroyed churches built by Amhara/Tigray.

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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by Lakeshore » 02 May 2021, 00:45

EthioRedSea

I do not know about what you are talking about but Agews are Ethiopians.

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Post by EthioRedSea » 02 May 2021, 01:44

Lakeshore wrote:
02 May 2021, 00:45
EthioRedSea

I do not know about what you are talking about but Agews are Ethiopians.
They assimilated with the Amharas but originally migrated from West Africa and attacked Ethiopia. You can tell from the way they dance and speak. They are wild like Sudanese or some tribes in West Africa.

I think TPLF is using Agews to weaken the Amhara. I myself was supporting the idea even though I am not TPLF member. Amhara are too dominating in Ethiopia. We need to weaken them by creating a new regional state Agew, which incudes all people similar to Agew ( Bilen, Awi, Agew proper).

Beja, Tigre, Bilen and Agew attacked Aksum and controlled Ethiopia. They killed many christians at that time and created a new dynasty called The Agew Dynasty. Yodit Gudit was an Agew from Beja tribe/Bilen/Agew. We can see them as Ethiopians to promote national unity, but they remain migrants similar to The Galla or Oromo.

Ethiopia was founded by Amhara and Tigray. These two people which probably are one, are semetic. Geez, Tigrigna and amharic are related to Aramaic language. which Jesus also used to speak. Jesus might have been an amhara or Tigrayan with some Middle Eastern roots, but not a Jew, for Hebrew is less Aramaic than Amharic or Tigrigna.

We need to unite Amhara and Tigray as they are the only ancient Ethiopians.

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Post by TGAA » 02 May 2021, 02:11

EthioRedSea, You are full of contradictions. One day you are anti-ethnic and pro-Ethiopan another day you are as Ethnic as it gets. Amharas by their sheer numbers can be dominant as Oromos are so I don't know by weakening Amharas the benefit you are going aiming to harvest? With this kind or rhetoric, you are not soliciting cooperation and goodwill from Amharas or Ethiopians for that matter. When it comes to Tigrians there is deep-rooted hate toward Amharas just like Oromo radicals. If weyanes have not succeeded to damage Amharas using the state power in their hand do you think Amharas going to go down without fight while they have a good grasp of who their deadly enemies are?

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Re: Amhara scholars are hereby invited to debate if there is ethnic Amhara. Amhara region census data reveals no Amhara.

Post by EthioRedSea » 02 May 2021, 02:28

TGAA wrote:
02 May 2021, 02:11
EthioRedSea, You are full of contradictions. One day you are anti-ethnic and pro-Ethiopan another day you are as Ethnic as it gets. Amharas by their sheer numbers can be dominant as Oromos are so I don't know by weakening Amharas the benefit you are going aiming to harvest? With this kind or rhetoric, you are not soliciting cooperation and goodwill from Amharas or Ethiopians for that matter. When it comes to Tigrians there is deep-rooted hate toward Amharas just like Oromo radicals. If weyanes have not succeeded to damage Amharas using the state power in their hand do you think Amharas going to go down without fight while they have a good grasp of who their deadly enemies are?
I am sometimes supportive of ethnic groups fighting for secession because i feel it is difficult to provide equality to all ethnic where there is unequal social evolution. Equality of all ethnic groups can only be nominal to make every one feel they belong to one Ethiopian Family. We need to support every ethnic group, which we have done in the past under Mengistu and Haile Selassie, but the amhara elites remained on the defensive and were chauvinists with false historical claims. How can a bare foot amhara feel better than a Tigrayan who always had always worn shoes made from cow hide. Mujelam Amara!

I tend to favour unity of all people and form a modern democratic state like just we see it in Europe. In the end, what matters how we develop the economy and participate in the global market as exporters. For this we need to create a united and democratic Ethiopia.

I could be confused sometimes - pulled apart by ethnonationaists and ethnochavinists. I hope this confusion to clear in the future.

You seem to exaggerate about amhara. They make 20% of the population ( beg to be corrected) and not 40%. But still the amhara have more population and resources than Tigray and could easily defeat Tigray, Eritrea and Oromo. The problem is we need to unite all to benefit all and stop fighting to make sure one tribe dominates.

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