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[Blueshift]

It will be a forgone conclusion for Ethiopia. Regional forces should not be armed more than a typical local police force. Heavily and hostile militarized regional forces could disintegrate the country very easily. The animosity between the Oromo and Amhara special forces is growing. The recent Somali/Afar border conflict should not be ignored either. However, I don't believe Abbiy will brave it out this one. It was also wrong for Abbiy to use Amhara regional forces against Tigrayan regional forces. The enmity that has occurred between the two as a result will perpetuate for a long time to come. The federal forces should have dealt with it on their own. It really is a big mess.

[Noble Amhara]

Without Amhara Liyu Hayl there is no Amhara safety so no phack u

[Blueshift]

Noble agame,

You know the Oromo Special forces can do the same thing , the amharas did to the agames. Amharas could be sandwitched between the Oromos and Agame special forces. That is not far fetched. Most Ethiopians do not like you either.

[Noble Amhara]

Noble agame,

You know the Oromo Special forces can do the same thing , the amharas did to the agames. Amharas could be sandwitched between the Oromos and Agame special forces. That is not far fetched. Most Ethiopians do not like you either.

You Must be scared first yo call me agame then you say I am Amhara you are BIPOLar also Amhara is not like Tigray there is no coming back for agame chauvinists we know the last tdf force is hiding in kola Tembien

[Sadacha Macca]

The difference is, oromo do not want to invade others or take the offensive, but will defend our land well, and can do so.
Other than that, despite our intense hatred for TPLF, we do not support collectively punishing the tigrayans.
We OROMO's know how that feels, for our masses to be targeted. The problem is, tplf brought this upon themselves and their people suffer as a result, and they underestimated the hatred their neighbors [eritreans & amara's] have for them.

[Blueshift]

Sadacha,

Eritrean do not hate the people of Tigray. The government led by Isayas does. For the Eritrean people, the return of Badme is the final redemption. Amharas had a bone to deal to the Tigrayans. Abbiy took advantage of it, but, Ethiopia will never be the same again. The regional forces should not have been allowed in the war. Now, you have two people with extreme hate living in the same country. Abbiy is not going to give in the constitution or the ethnic federalism to appease the amharas. The Oromos will make sure that will not happen and Abbiy betrayed the amharas too. As far as Eritreans are concerned, Eritrean youth should get out of Tigray. Tigrayans speak the same language as we do, hence no need for long term hatred. To amharas, trust me, all tigrigna speakers are agames at the end of the day. The amharas are our brethren too, but they are expansionists, and they will never stop at the borders of Eritrea when opportunity presents itself.

[sun]

As a matter of fact we have only different interests but not enmity with each other as people which means that we can keep measuring and calibrating the boundaries of our interests while respecting each other because we have more in common in the form of a country. If our politics is always the politics of blind hatred and the politics of division then we will be exposed to all kinds of greedy hungry wild beasts bent on widening our differences, creating a war of all against all and then through that adding petrol to the disintegration fire so that the country may come to crumble like the babel tower, turning in to the rubble that is so brown and out of control and may not be helped by any single power. Then, say goodbye to Mamma Ethiopia just like the Byzantine empire that have now totally disappeared on the grave of which another state reappeared. In this sense where will you and me can come and debate when we may not have even a semblance of any state?

[TGAA]

Very thoughtful. If we break it we own it, what we do before that truthfully is the only redemption. We are brothers, not enemies thus we need to stop galloping emotionally to our collective demise.

[sun]

It will be a forgone conclusion for Ethiopia. Regional forces should not be armed more than a typical local police force. Heavily and hostile militarized regional forces could disintegrate the country very easily. The animosity between the Oromo and Amhara special forces is growing. The recent Somali/Afar border conflict should not be ignored either. However, I don't believe Abbiy will brave it out this one. It was also wrong for Abbiy to use Amhara regional forces against Tigrayan regional forces. The enmity that has occurred between the two as a result will perpetuate for a long time to come. The federal forces should have dealt with it on their own. It really is a big mess.

You are distorting the issue because your own thinking and perception of the situation is distorted just like your foreign cvnning foxes willfully distorting the situation and bending it to their own exclusive interests.

Tplf arrogant rebels rejected constant peace offers for as long as 3 years, preparing for war constantly and then finally attacked the Ethiopian Defense Forces, killing many of them kidnapping many of them, demobilizing and sending in to the wilderness naked and then starting to march on the Amhara region and through that fast on to Addis Ababa for the purpose of violently overthrowing the government. And you say that Amhara force need to stay away, going to sleep and snore, when all of these cleverly planned barbarism have been set in motion?

Under such circumstance the PM as a commander in chief ordered his various Ethiopian forces to rush and save the Ethiopian defense forces so that Ethiopia can secure its national security. Since the various Amhara forces are also Ethiopian forces it is natural that it joined the battle and contributed to the safety and security of the Defense forces while bring the perpetrators of the crime under complete control.

Amara forces entered Tigray to help the embattled Ethiopian defense forces as Ethiopians rushing to save other Ethiopians. Such battle grounds can be anywhere in Ethiopia where ever the Red Line might have been willfully crossed.

[Blueshift]

Sun,

I know you are a die hard Abbiy supporter. I have no problem with that. That is your right. But, I am not distorting anything. All I said was, Abbiy should not have used one killil against the other. He should have used only the federal forces. The amharas had a bone to bury in Tigray. Abbiy gave them the opportunity, and they did. They committed all kind of crimes against the civilian Tigrayans. That in itself threatens the existence of the Ethiopian State itself. The hate between Tigryans and Amharas will linger for a long time. These ethnic groups were very close to each other in the past. They intermarried for generations. Now, they are getting ready to commit genocide against each other. The Tigrayans were far more closer to the amharas than they were to us. BTW, the amharas are expecting a lot from Abbiy, and I guarantee you, he won't be able to deliver.

[TGAA]

Sun,

I know you are a die hard Abbiy supporter. I have no problem with that. That is your right. But, I am not distorting anything. All I said was, Abbiy should not have used one killil against the other. He should have used only the federal forces. The amharas had a bone to bury in Tigray. Abbiy gave them the opportunity, and they did. They committed all kind of crimes against the civilian Tigrayans. That in itself threatens the existence of the Ethiopian State itself. The hate between Tigryans and Amharas will linger for a long time. These ethnic groups were very close to each other in the past. They intermarried for generations. Now, they are getting ready to commit genocide against each other. The Tigrayans were far more closer to the amharas than they were to us. BTW, the amharas are expecting a lot from Abbiy, and I guarantee you, he won't be able to deliver.

I have no Idea where you have come from but Weyanas and the generation they incubated hated Amhara as an ideology. So If you don't know their Amhara hate Ideology go back and look all their documents. And they shaped the government structure and the constitution to alienate and suppress Amharas. So it is not because Amharas went in Tigry to save the Ethiopian defense forces Weyanes backstabbed thatTigrians going to hate Amharas. Amharas didn't go as an aggressor, but once they know what the Weyanes intention was that is once they broke the back of EDF the next target would have been Amharas. So Amharas did what they supposed to do "eat the hyena before it eats them " then as they say "make a confession"?. So I don't know what your motivation is to squarely blame Amharas. You need to familiarize yourself with Weyanes 27 year police to understand the pent-up anger they planted in Amhara's heart. Actually, Amharas are not as vengeful as Tigrians have demonstrated in the past 27 years.

[Blueshift]

TGAA,

I know what TPLF did to the amharas when they come to power. That was very wrong, and I understand it. But, the cycle of violence and hatred needs to be cut before it perpetuates to the point Genocide becomes a reality.

[TGAA]

I agree with you that both need to let bygones be bygones. However, the excessive positions weyans had acquired and the commanding positions they used to have both economically and politically are something they think can not live without. Abiy had given them all the opportunity to keep what they looted and left them to keep the positions they have, but they misread the forgiveness as weakness and apt to take the bull by the horn and they lost. All the miseries they brought to Tigrian People could have been avoided had they were content with what they had. If a member of EDF or member of the Amhara militia committed any atrocities they should be brought to a military court and justice must be served, however; One should take statements coming out of Weyanes or their hired guns with a grain of salt cause Weyanes are not just liers but they are a walking lie , if there is one.

[Blueshift]

TGAA,

I could care less about the weyanes. They can go to hell. But, the people of Tigray and the people of Amhara have a long history together. Tigrayans blame Haile Sellasie and Mengistu. The amharas blame TPLF. But, you guys have Ethiopia in common. Hopefully, you will work it out someday. People who live under the same roof need to get along. That takes forgive and forget attitude. I am Eritrean. I do not like any Eritrean mistreated. The relationship among the people of Eritrea is burning underneath. People can take so much. Religion and region politics is dividing the people. It is like the low land Eritreans are not even there. All you hear is Hamassien this Tigrigna that. That is not what our brothers and sisters gave up their life for. Look at Asmara and Look at Addis. Look at how Asmara is debilitated. There was a time when Asmara, Cairo and Nairobi were the trio cities with finesse in Africa. Thanks to the Italians. We had that. Harmony is very important for economic, political and peace stability.