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[ittuabafarda]

Ok folks! We have heard it all from the horse’s mouth. PM Abiy himself has finally admitted that serious human rights violations have been committed by soldiers of the defense forces in Tigray. He has admitted that women were raped and properties were looted by the soldiers. He has also promised that those who committed these crimes will be held accountable. I say good luck with that. Such wartime accountability will not be limited to the rank and file soldiers. It will travel all the way up in the ranks of commanding officers. You know or should expect what this entails. Mutinies that lead to a coup can be in the offing/plan right now as we speak. Remember war crimes are punishable by death and field commanders can be held responsible for allegedly widespread looting and rape. Jula and Bacha! Look out!! Abiy! Look out!!! How about Eritrean soldiers? Were they involved in the war? He did not say a word about that! He had told the world no foreign troops were involved in the war. Many have believed him. I did. I know feel I’ve been had! I feel hoodwinked!!! Well, well, well!!! Is this the way how it still works? Ok bigots! Finally, you may be getting your wishes!!! The old country is on a silver platter just for to enjoy and pull it apart until it is unrecognizable!

Here is what PM Abiy is saying:

Office of the Prime Minister – Ethiopia
@PMEthiopia
“Reports indicate that atrocities have been committed in Tigray region. Regardless of the TPLF propaganda of exaggeration, any soldier responsible for raping our women & looting communities in the region will be held accountable as their mission is to protect.”

[sarcasm]

Accountability begins at the top of the pyramid! Not at the bottom! The Colonels, Generals and the Commander in Chief Abiy Ahmed should be held accountable.

[tolcha]

We rejected a psychotic as well as Narcisstic liar from the get go. Some people get it late, and still others give him the benefit of the doubt while others are in denial. We will see a mess about this idiot as we move forward.

[Fiyameta]

A person has to have the lowest IQ in the world to believe what the uncivilized agame Junta ittuabafarda is trying to sell here by misinterpreting the statement made by PM Abiy.

Civilized people with average intelligence would never misconstrue such statement as an "admission of fault," but rather see it as a confirmation to the guiding principles and set of moral values that every Ethiopian soldier lives by.

This is how civilized people think, and it's called Critical Thinking.

If the Ethiopian forces stationed in Tigray for the last 20+ years were never accused of raping agame women, but all Tigray police reports during the same period show agame men as perpetrators who committed sexual assaults against agame women, where in some cases one TPLF official was found guilty of raping up to 50 agame wives, did the agame men all of a sudden stop raping their own daughters, mothers, sisters, aunties and their neighbors wives, that they can now point fingers at the Ethiopian soldiers who were never known to commit such crimes?

መርካቶ ውስጥ ሲሰርቅ የተገኘን ሌባ፡ ሰዎች "ሌባ ያዙት!" እያሉ ሲያባርሩት... ብልጡ ሌባ አብሮ "ሌባ ያዙት!" ብሎ በመጮህ ትኩረቱን ወደ ሌሎች አድርጎ ለማምለጥ ሞከረ።

ወያኔም እንደ ሌባው በማይካድራና በየሰሜን እዝ መከላከያ ሰራዊት ላይ ያደረሰውን ጥቃትና የሰራውን ወንጀል ለመሸፈን "አቢይን ያዙት!" ሻእቢያን ያዙት!" እያለ እያስጮኸ ነው።

[Abere]

ittuabafarda,

The question is are you going to help the effort in raising fund to hire lobbyists in the U.S. to fightback all fabrications made by TPLF hired lobbyists? In my opinion Abiy Ahmed exposed the cruelty of TPLF and the moral decadence of lobbyists. There rest, when there is fire there is always something burning. The TPLF started it, it deserved to be burnt. They begged hard to get slapped they got it big time. These TPLF thugs were forcing mothers to sit on the dead bodies of their children's while their illiterates Agazais were dancing and singing Ember Tegedaly in Tigrigna, what is new now. There is nothing new under the Sun in Ethiopia since the last 27 years except that undoing of the injustices done by the Tigre minority thugs is successfully underway. The only criminal is TPLF and all the crimes are due to TPLF.

[Aba]

The boy is in trouble. Succumbs to the pressure and admits he's been lying all along. He's trying to navigate out of the quagmire his mentor Issu put him in: from Nobel Peace Prize laureate, to ICC candidate.

[ittuabafarda]

Once again the statement from the PM’s office says ‘ Reports indicate that atrocities have been committed in Tigray region.’ It does not say ‘alleged’. Let’s keep the conversation civil. The UN group is on the ground to conduct a joint investigation with the government. I am not passing judgment now but reacting to the PM minister’s bombshell statement. This time it won’t be just a promise. Innocent civilians were murdered in Shangul and western part of Oromia. Loved once of the victims and the country were promised that justice would be serviced. There have been serious accusations by survivors of the atrocities that local officials have been part of the atrocities by assisting the demonic ‘Shane’ murderers by providing intelligence and local demographic details. Has anyone been held accountable? All we hear time and again are reports of killings of ‘Shane’ thugs and others like them. These ‘killing’ usually follow immediately after the goons murder innocent civilians. These miscreants are still killing poor peasants and now the remnants of the TPLF thugs have joined the carnage in killing innocent citizens living in areas close to Tigray region. Poor farmers oblivious of anything else except toiling on their farms to bring the dough home to their families are being suddenly cut down by evil assassins’ bullets in Oromia and BeniShangul. This is Not funny! I have come not to believe any official in Oromia, Amhara and Southern Regions. The current authorities in Tigray are brand new and deserve at least benefit of a doubt. Look at the other regions. We were told ‘Shane’ was cornered in Western Wallagaa. Are you trying to tell me that it is able to move north, south, east and west without the knowledge of some of the region’s officials? I said ‘some’ and not ‘all’. The same goes in the other three regions and BeniShangul. For sure that dog don’t hunt! Again let’s keep the conversation cultured in accordance to our legendary custom and values.

[Masud]

As some Amhara acivists predicted the smart Prime Mister is going to hold Amhara Special Force and Militia responsible for raping Tigre women and looting Tigre properties.
Dismantle Amhara Liyu Hayil Now!

[Aba]

It looks like Abiy has got the message. He doesn't want to end up like Bashir with his Janjaweed militia. He's also passing the buck to Issu, the "uninvited" tourist with his vicious militia.


https://www.justsecurity.org/75410/ethi ... fvAjL-iaUc

[tolcha]

The guy is moron. He would definitely betray the QOMICHES, who wiggled their phacking arses with him and did the atrocities in Tigray. The guy, who betrayed Lamma Magarssa, doesn't give you a place when it comes to escaping himself from danger.

[ittuabafarda]

This double talking by the PM is bothersome to me. I am not worried about him as much as I am worried about that gem of the colored called Ethiopia. At the end of the planned joint investigation by the UN group and the government PM Abiy may be moved from the halls of the Nobel Peace Prize to the benches of the judges at ICC. White Citizens Council folks are itching to pop bottles of champagne. Bigots among us are on a standby with bullhorn in their hands to declare their custom made republics(fiefdoms). Wahhabis are getting restless to go in with their deep pockets and long knives. That diamond in the rough may be heading to be every goon’s piece of the pie!!! Congratulations college campus orphans and missionary canteen scavengers!!!

[Dawi]

Ok folks! We have heard it all from the horse’s mouth. PM Abiy himself has finally admitted that serious human rights violations have been committed by soldiers of the defense forces in Tigray. He has admitted that women were raped and properties were looted by the soldiers. He has also promised that those who committed these crimes will be held accountable. I say good luck with that.

He had told the world no foreign troops were involved in the war. Many have believed him. I did. I know feel I’ve been had! I feel hoodwinked!!! Well, well, well!!! Is this the way how it still works?

ittu - Who assumes the War was going to be a Dinner Party? It's hard to accept you did.

Abiy is good, he has proven that beyond a reasonable doubt however, the difference between genius and stupidity is: genius has its limits!

Did you figure Eritrea was going to sit idly when TPLF shoots rockets? That's not even mentioning the animosity between them.

Abiy mentioned billions Bir damage done to Gondar/Bahr Dar Airports. We don't even know how much damage Asmara Airport incurred?

TPLF caused collateral damages to others, itself along with Tigrayan mothers & sisters. It's continuing the carnage.

Now what we don't know is, how much its "fourth failure" of a gorilla war going to cost?

[ittuabafarda]

Dawi,

You are some what not accurate about my assumption and expectation. If you had read my comments(not the skits) I posted here and other websites I was very clear that Eritrea could have been justifiably obligated to defend itself from the TPLF goons who were lobbing deadly missiles at the civilian airport in the capital there. I even made it clear that if Eritrean troops occupied the territory they were awarded by the arbitrary commission at The Hague almost 20 years ago. I am still firm in my conviction that the goons of the TPLF were the ones that provoked and started the war. I never expected this conflict to be a cake walk where there will be civilians caught in the crossfire. Soldiers on both sides were not there shooting blanks but rather deadly bullets flying in every direction. But at later dates Ethiopian officials started releasing statements denying a single Eritrean soldier being on the Ethiopian soil. That included the PM himself. I believed him. Now he is saying to the contrary. He now is even admitting that gross atrocities have been inflicted upon the upright brothers and sisters of Tigray. Rape is the most heinous and emotionally destructive crime that can be committed on a woman. I can’t believe him saying such crimes might have been committed. Didn’t he tell the world that not a single civilian was intentionally victimized back in November? Leaving the loud mouthed running dogs of the TPLF among us there have been numerous accusations by other groups that crimes against humanity have been community. There have been consistent denial of such crimes. So then, where did this ‘possible’ admission suddenly come from? Human life with all its dignity is Allah’s most sacred creation and holiest gift. Nobody has the right to sniff it away at will. I wanted this young and visionary PM minister to succeed and still want to. But I know started to doubt him to be able to take that country and it’s glorious people to the Promised Land where no one is above the law and every citizen’s human and democratic rights are protected by the law of the land. To me he is it! He is the last call! The country has to either shape up now or it may be heading into a violent black hole and wither away beyond recognition. Then the entire 120 million people will be on the move. That is why I still want him to succeed. But he must be leveling with the people there at all times. Double talking won’t cut the mustard for him or the country. I will be eagerly waiting for the investigative report that will come out from the joint body comprising of the UN delegation and Ethiopian officials.
Peace unto you and your family.

[Aba]

[ittuabafarda]

There is another bombshell yesterday. The country’s own human rights commission had issued a report confirming that innocent civilians including those who were attending religious sermons at a church in Axum were savagely murdered by troops from Eritrea. I looked at the map and discovered that Axum is well inside the country’s territory. This is a big no no. This will change the game in the most undesirable ways. First one, it will start eroding the popular support the current regime has been enjoying so far. Similar atrocities are taking place unabated in Oromia, Amhara and BeniShangul regions. I am having my worst fears for the peace mongering people there after reports of tensions between unruly militias of Amhara and Oromia regions. Both Amhara and Oromo Intellectuals with extremist and war rattling views here among us must cool it and cool it now. Let’s stop tinkering around an extremely destructive device that we can’t control here from our comfy homes. This is not an ‘I don’t care’ matter! This is not a laughing matter! It is not funny at all! These two regions have militias armed to the teeth under their command and with a combined population of more than 80 million. My other fear is the possibility of a military coup. If that happens we can all blow a kiss and say goodbye to that gem of the colored.

[Dawi]

I wanted this young and visionary PM minister to succeed and still want to. But I know started to doubt him to be able to take that country and it’s glorious people to the Promised Land where no one is above the law and every citizen’s human and democratic rights are protected by the law of the land. To me he is it! He is the last call! The country has to either shape up now or it may be heading into a violent black hole and wither away beyond recognition. Then the entire 120 million people will be on the move. That is why I still want him to succeed. But he must be leveling with the people there at all times. Double talking won’t cut the mustard for him or the country. I will be eagerly waiting for the investigative report that will come out from the joint body comprising of the UN delegation and Ethiopian officials.

ittu,

Frankly, we're all "doubting Thomas" regarding the "visionary PM minister" as you pointed out. He always looked sitting between a rock and hard place every time he speaks on matters that divides the nation on ethnic lines.

The Jawar/Bekele issue was one; it took a long time and many citizens death that created public distrust of the PM before they were taken to court. We still don't understand why the PM declared war on Eskinder/Balderas and put that leader in jail. It's open for a controversial allegations against him.

The government played down the massacre of hundreds of people stabbed or hacked to death in Mai-Kadra (May Cadera) town in the South West Zone of Ethiopia's Tigray Region on the night of 9 November. The displacement of hundreds of thousands and killing of hundreds in Metekel was played down as well.

So, why do you expect the PM to do any different with collateral damages in a declared war in Tigray. He was acting consistent in such kind of incidents. Considering how quickly TPLF was taken down, for the PM to say mission accomplished without folks dying was acceptable military talk. On a major conflict of that size, some casualties are assumed acceptable but, nothing for anyone like you to get out of shape.

He or no one else need to invite Eritrea; yes, Isaias/Abiy must have understandings of TPLF belligerency and possible response plan. TPLF was openly preparing for war and boosting of its powers. When it started the war, the 2 governments responded in kind. It ended quickly and Abiy declared victory with minimal casualties; considering it was a major war, the 3 weeks adventure can be called a clean victory.

Well, now, the PM talked about the 200,000 thousand army of TPLF weren't all killed but, dispersed after defeat. They started coming out from their hide outs provoking by killing government/Eritrean soldiers here and there. That brought questionable responses by the Armies. He condemned all human rights violations for that. Explained why Eritrea did what it did. He still can't replace Eritrea's military role in that region quickly because Ethiopian Army has limitations in fighting so many fronts including "gorilla warfare" of TPLF.

We should be thankful to Eritrean government for having our back. Today's news says, they're doing the same thing in the Sudan front. Such actions by them touches Ethiopians heart. Friends in need are friends in deed!

[ittuabafarda]

I am not against any helping hand when the old country needs it most. I have no qualms if our Eritrean brothers and sisters were there during the beginning of the conflict in Tigray just to help out and or if they were invited. They have every right to defend themselves just like the UN forces. If they come under gun fire they have the right to fight back. But that does not mean wanton killings of innocent civilians including those who had congregated to attend sermons at a church are warranted. That is a no no. What my friend told me today was that Eritrean officials have vowed to carry out investigations and promised that they will hold those responsible accountable. There is nothing that will justify wanton killings of innocent civilians. Nothing. Now mothers and father will have no one to look after them in their advanced age. Spouses left their homes not to ever come back to their families alive. Children are now suddenly orphans. How dare you soldier! How dare you!!!!

Dear Dawi,

When you and I go back and forth on this issue of gross violations of human rights we may be distracted from the other very serious development bedeviling the old country. COVID-19 is on rampage everywhere there. More and more patients are going into the ICU and hospitals are running out of beds. New cases have gone up by more than 11,000 in just a week. After a year of restrictions citizens are numbed and going through the mitigating fatigue syndrome. More and more people are seen mingling with crowds of people without donning face masks. This couldn't happen in the worst times. Please note that the official numbers we see is what have been gathered from accessible locations. Who will know how many people are being infected and dying off the beaten paths/off limit areas like Tigray, Gumuz, Amhara and Oromia? To me this sudden and unabated surge by this virus scourge poses a more serious problem for the old country. It may end up destroying whatever is left of the economy leading to widespread mayhem and the country's undoing. I am very, very worried about this surge. It seems the country is being besieged on all sides. It needs our prayers and help in every way we can. Let’s send the last penny in our pocket towards the procurement of medical supplies including vaccines. We should not let that sweat heart of a country go! With millions of patriots like you, that gem of the colored SHALL NEVER PERISH!!!

[Sabur]

ittuabafarda:

This is total fabrication and rush to judgment. The Prime Minster did not admit about human rights violations by the Eritrean Forces. What he said is "Eritrea said it would never allow its soldiers to violate the human right of the Tigryan people. And Both countries agreed to look into matters if there were any human right violations by their soldiers".

Can you spell out where the Prime minister admitted in his speech from the video below? I challenge you .

Ok folks! We have heard it all from the horse’s mouth. PM Abiy himself has finally admitted that serious human rights violations have been committed by soldiers of the defense forces in Tigray. He has admitted that women were raped and properties were looted by the soldiers. He has also promised that those who committed these crimes will be held accountable. I say good luck with that. Such wartime accountability will not be limited to the rank and file soldiers. It will travel all the way up in the ranks of commanding officers. You know or should expect what this entails. Mutinies that lead to a coup can be in the offing/plan right now as we speak. Remember war crimes are punishable by death and field commanders can be held responsible for allegedly widespread looting and rape. Jula and Bacha! Look out!! Abiy! Look out!!! How about Eritrean soldiers? Were they involved in the war? He did not say a word about that! He had told the world no foreign troops were involved in the war. Many have believed him. I did. I know feel I’ve been had! I feel hoodwinked!!! Well, well, well!!! Is this the way how it still works? Ok bigots! Finally, you may be getting your wishes!!! The old country is on a silver platter just for to enjoy and pull it apart until it is unrecognizable!

Here is what PM Abiy is saying:

Office of the Prime Minister – Ethiopia
@PMEthiopia
“Reports indicate that atrocities have been committed in Tigray region. Regardless of the TPLF propaganda of exaggeration, any soldier responsible for raping our women & looting communities in the region will be held accountable as their mission is to protect.”

[Aba]

Egregious human rights violations against the Eritrean people. If Issu can commit such heinous acts against the Eritrean people, why not against the Tigrean Ethiopian people?


https://radiofiji.com.fj/eu-imposes-san ... trea/8518/

EU imposes sanctions on Eritrea
by News Desk

 March 22, 2021

The EU has imposed sanctions on Eritrea for violating human rights. The aim of the sanctions is the Office for National Security, which is under the supervision of the President’s office, as it was called on Monday. The office “is responsible for serious human rights violations in Eritrea committed by its employees, in particular arbitrary arrests, extrajudicial killings, disappearances and torture.”

The foreign ministry of the country in the Horn of Africa called the sanctions a “malicious act”. The EU has no legal or moral prerogative for this decision, it said.

Eritrea, with around three million inhabitants, has been ruled by the autocratic President Isaias Afewerki for years. The tough national labor and military service has already displaced tens of thousands of people, many of them to Germany. The state is largely isolated from the international community. Eritrean soldiers are currently fighting in the conflict in Tigray in neighboring Ethiopia, which the government in Addis Ababa denies.

The punitive measures were imposed with a sanctions instrument that was only created last year to punish serious human rights violations. With the new sanctions regime, the EU expanded its options at the end of 2020 to punish those responsible for serious injustices abroad. At the same time, sanctions were imposed on Monday for human rights violations in China, North Korea, Libya, Russia and South Sudan

[ittuabafarda]

Sabur,

Please re-read my comments with undivided attention. Please also read the latest preliminary report by the Ethiopian Human Rights Commission after its investigators traveled to the region. It has stated that there is reason to believe that crimes against humanity might have been committed in Axum. It is no time to give lawyers talk. The goons of TPLF have resorted to guerrilla warfare with whatever man power they have now. That means they can be seen shooting at you from civilian quarters when cornered or even knowingly. In these situations someone will likely lose his cool/composure leading to the rise of Harry Morants. I hate repeating myself ad nauseam. I had profusely appreciated the medical and shelter assistance our Eritrean brothers and sisters generously provided to the besieged soldiers of the ENDF. I had also made my opinion very clear that I find no problem if Eritrea decided to protect itself when deadly missiles being hurled at her civilians. It showed they might have done that and the Ethiopian government could have enough information about such incursions. Such critical help should be appreciated and shouldn't be something to hide. But wanton shooting of civilians is something not to hope for or tolerate. I don't you do either. Let's avoid lawyers' talk.