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Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by euroland » 07 Feb 2021, 22:01

- Underestimated the strength of their enemies, specially the Eritrean forces
- Foolishly thought the Northern command would turn its guns against the rest of the Ethiopian forces if they kill the main Amara commanders within the Northern command.
- They had no Plan "B"
- They really believed their own lies that been telling their people for 29 years.
- The did not have inside intelligence about the strength and preparation of the Amara and the Afar kilil special forces
- President Issayas has been saving billions of dollars for 20 plus years while partially suspending major economic development and expenditures; purchasing heavy artilleries, jets and thousands tanks for 2 years after his country's embargo had lifted and yet they did not have any clue what he was doing. It save to say, they had no intelligence within the Eritrean army as he had on theirs. They found out too late that he has more armaments and manpower than the entire E. Africa.
-They also thought Dr. Abiy is not a fighter type of guy; once the war starts, he would either run away or surrender to their forces within days.
- Ethiopia is a huge country with a lot of resources and if the war drags on, it only gets worse for them not for the central government.
- Finally, they totally forgot, they are completely surrounded by their enemies; therefore, they won't be able to bring in supplies from a third country.
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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by Abe Abraham » 07 Feb 2021, 22:33

As Abel Qael ( Abdelaziz/Aziza) and Halafi Mengedi admitted many young Tigrayans who were misled into joining the criminal army of the Junta ( mafia ) were mowed down by drones with no chance of defending themselves.

More than 52,000 of this young Tigrayans died for the sake of the likes of Ambaye ( Siyoum) Mesfin Gebre-Dingel of Adi Grat. Ambaye himself is gone and he took with himself thousands .......







Drones are like the Gemini Man, merciless ...


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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2021, 08:16

ዛሬ እነ አዚዛ ወደው አይደለም መሬት ላይ የሚንከባለሉት።

euroland wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 22:01
- Underestimated the strength of their enemies, specially the Eritrean forces
- Foolishly thought the Northern command would turn its guns against the rest of the Ethiopian forces if they kill the main Amara commanders within the Northern command.
- They had no Plan "B"
- They really believed their own lies that been telling their people for 29 years.
- The did not have inside intelligence about the strength and preparation of the Amara and the Afar kilil special forces
- President Issayas has been saving billions of dollars for 20 plus years while partially suspending major economic development and expenditures; purchasing heavy artilleries, jets and thousands tanks for 2 years after his country's embargo had lifted and yet they did not have any clue what he was doing. It save to say, they had no intelligence within the Eritrean army as he had on theirs. They found out too late that he has more armaments and manpower than the entire E. Africa.
-They also thought Dr. Abiy is not a fighter type of guy; once the war starts, he would either run away or surrender to their forces within days.
- Ethiopia is a huge country with a lot of resources and if the war drags on, it only gets worse for them not for the central government.
- Finally, they totally forgot, they are completely surrounded by their enemies; therefore, they won't be able to bring in supplies from a third country.

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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by abel qael » 08 Feb 2021, 08:42

Eurokintir tra'nny sebdeyley mesraqbetraq of campo: like every Fagut Hamasenay you talk to yourself, repeat the same nonsense over and over, coz you cannot see the greatness of top quality warriors like Tigreans as they dilapidate half million Enemy Army supported by drones. TDF Killing over 253 thousand in just 3 months is world record, as noted by many reputable international military analysts, but not by dkmucher mentally retarded tra'nny like you.
you simply repeat the same childish power fetish, obsessed with trying to diminish Tigrean prowess, always trying to make us believe that your temporary gain, largely due to qomaxamharay and hamasenay militias killing defenseless civilians after they lose battles, is big deal only and only for leaky qedad mitrimeakora hamasenay lootiniesh like you . Live with it, you bi'tch, I'm sure you will now imagine me deepthroating you.

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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by abel qael » 08 Feb 2021, 09:00

Eurokintir sebdeyley mesraqbetraq of camopolo; to be fair to you, let me add a few points that may help you understand what went wrong.
You have mentioned some of the odds against Tigreans, and we know those constraints, but what you do not know is the devastating damage we incurred from the Emirati drones that were never used in any African conventional war or even anywhere in history like they were used in Tigray.... WE are used to Planes and Helicopters but not to invisible and voiceless satanic gadgets that foolow yu anywhere , that stay over your head for 48 hours. and more terrible things. As of the 3rd week of the war drones came in droves and were attacking us 7/24, coming in great numbers thereafter, and targeting any heavy weapons, buildings, depos, camps, garages, and transport as well as personal vehicles, and you name it. Many important people and equipment lost!! But it is not true to say TDF fighters were mowed... no, I you cannot be mowed unless you are inside something. No body thought drones will be illegally used against us when the powerful countries are watching. We never thought the Arabs will allow them to be used against us.... we will never forget or forgive them! WE could have defeated ar'teran and Ethiopian Army in just 4 weeks if the drones did not change the game play. We always knew Amharay will be piggybacked on federal forces and come to Tigray, but we know we could have devastated the federal and even all other liyus in 3 weeks if wedimedhin did not send his entire Army...... We never thought he could send his entire Army as the world watched... but the world betrayed us. ,,,, but now we are having the upper hand.. and drones cannot do much damage to us... we have no heavy weapons that we regret to lose.
We also never thought that the 17,000 Tigrean soldier and the 500o Tigrean midlevel and higher Tigrean officers in Federal Army will be totally removed from the Army and be illegally and immorally imprisoned in military camps just before meshrefet declared the war on Tigray. ... if Tigrean soldiers were in the battle, they would never have allowed foreign forces to devastate Tigray infrastructure, drones to be used let alone to bomb us day and nigh, and simply watch or allow the extreme human right violations and war crimes committed by all the invading Armies in general and wedimedhin militias in particular.
(Edit any typos and read accordingly)
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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by sebdoyeley » 08 Feb 2021, 09:01

here is some of the dead agame :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Why TPLF defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2021, 09:08

Aziza shikor
What prevented the “Tigrean worriers” from capturing one single village let alone a city or a town? :lol: :lol:
We know why, because they don’t exist. The war is ended. In fact, the Ethiopian regular soldiers are in cities and towns keeping peace. It is the Federal police who are only armed with pistols and sticks are searching for your criminal left over Liyu Haile all over Tigray. In short, it is now a police job not the military. The military has achieved it is goal in a speed of light.

I know Azizaye, it is hard to comprehend what has happened to your beloved TPLF in a such short short period of time. Not only you in shocked but also we are in shocked 😳. We were told by you and by many low IQ DWs that if the war broke out, Weyane simply walk in to Addis and Asmara simultaneously. :lol:
abel qael wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 08:42
Eurokintir tra'nny sebdeyley mesraqbetraq of campo: like every Fagut Hamasenay you talk to yourself, repeat the same nonsense over and over, coz you cannot see the greatness of top quality warriors like Tigreans as they dilapidate half million Enemy Army supported by drones. TDF Killing over 253 thousand in just 3 months is world record, as noted by many reputable international military analysts, but not by dkmucher mentally retarded tra'nny like you.
you simply repeat the same childish power fetish, obsessed with trying to diminish Tigrean prowess, always trying to make us believe that your temporary gain, largely due to qomaxamharay and hamasenay militias killing defenseless civilians after they lose battles, is big deal only and only for leaky qedad mitrimeakora hamasenay lootiniesh like you . Live with it, you bi'tch, I'm sure you will now imagine me deepthroating you.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by abel qael » 08 Feb 2021, 09:39

[deleted] Eurkintir sebbdeyley mesraqbetraa, now take out my anaconda from your throat, and listen; dsregard the number 500o, instead read it as 5000. That is, you guessed it right, the number of midlevel and high level Tigrean officers that were in the Federal Army till the day Meshrefet declared war o Tigray, and who falsely framed as Juntas and are still house-arrested, or rotting in Ethiopian military camps and/or prisons. Many of them had been killed for nothing ... other than envy ... and are mislabeled as " killed in the battlefield while supporting the juntas" blah, blah . The injustice Meshrefet is doing on Tigray, simply intended to please Amharu and wedimedhin in order to buy the loyal support for his fragile stay in 4killo, is unforgettable and un-excusable.
And Imagine of these 22,000 highly trained soldiers and commanders were on Tigray Side. That is where I think Tigreans like debrepropoor failed Tigray by not thinking ahead, strategically, they put their fate and the fate of Tigray on trusting Ethiopians. Can you imagine trusting Meshrefet, who was always conspiring along with wedimedhin? Shame on TPLF leaders... but they are lucky they have the most resilient people in the world; the great , heroic and most tolerant people: Tigreans.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by Abe Abraham » 08 Feb 2021, 11:22

abel qael wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 09:39
[deleted] Eurkintir sebbdeyley mesraqbetraa, now take out my anaconda from your throat, and listen; dsregard the number 500o, instead read it as 5000. That is, you guessed it right, the number of midlevel and high level Tigrean officers that were in the Federal Army till the day Meshrefet declared war o Tigray, and who falsely framed as Juntas and are still house-arrested, or rotting in Ethiopian military camps and/or prisons. Many of them had been killed for nothing ... other than envy ... and are mislabeled as " killed in the battlefield while supporting the juntas" blah, blah . The injustice Meshrefet is doing on Tigray, simply intended to please Amharu and wedimedhin in order to buy the loyal support for his fragile stay in 4killo, is unforgettable and un-excusable.
And Imagine of these 22,000 highly trained soldiers and commanders were on Tigray Side. That is where I think Tigreans like debrepropoor failed Tigray by not thinking ahead, strategically, they put their fate and the fate of Tigray on trusting Ethiopians. Can you imagine trusting Meshrefet, who was always conspiring along with wedimedhin? Shame on TPLF leaders... but they are lucky they have the most resilient people in the world; the great , heroic and most tolerant people: Tigreans.
Do you really think that this policing campaign in Tigray is about emotions, to please and displease someone ? Please as a Tigrayan look at yourself and your crimes.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by DefendTheTruth » 08 Feb 2021, 12:54

euroland wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 22:01
- Underestimated the strength of their enemies, specially the Eritrean forces
- Foolishly thought the Northern command would turn its guns against the rest of the Ethiopian forces if they kill the main Amara commanders within the Northern command.
- They had no Plan "B"
- They really believed their own lies that been telling their people for 29 years.
- The did not have inside intelligence about the strength and preparation of the Amara and the Afar kilil special forces
- President Issayas has been saving billions of dollars for 20 plus years while partially suspending major economic development and expenditures; purchasing heavy artilleries, jets and thousands tanks for 2 years after his country's embargo had lifted and yet they did not have any clue what he was doing. It save to say, they had no intelligence within the Eritrean army as he had on theirs. They found out too late that he has more armaments and manpower than the entire E. Africa.
-They also thought Dr. Abiy is not a fighter type of guy; once the war starts, he would either run away or surrender to their forces within days.
- Ethiopia is a huge country with a lot of resources and if the war drags on, it only gets worse for them not for the central government.
- Finally, they totally forgot, they are completely surrounded by their enemies; therefore, they won't be able to bring in supplies from a third country.
in all of your hyphenated points I couldn't find where you say what the cause was and may I ask you if they had a cause? If they had one, then what was it? If they didn't have one, then isn't that the fundamental point that was missing in all of the orchestera?

If you are on a PR-stunt for President Afworki's military might, then we are yet to going to see where and how it was deployed and caused the "quick and decisive" victory over the TPLF your topic is about.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by euroland » 08 Feb 2021, 14:41

Defend....
Why don't you ask your beloved TPLF leaders and the high ranking military commanders who survived the a'ss kicking and are currently in jail. They would tell their coward behind was kicked my the mighty Shaebia that they had feared it may get involved. Almost all Tigrean major cities were captured by the mighty Shaebia's power with the help of ENDF. At the first few weeks, the ENDF were demoralized and they had no weapons even to defend themselves from your "well armed" the Junta forces. Once the ENDF was armed and well fed (you know by whom), they were easily able marched to every towns and villages of Tigray by decimating your remaining forces afterward. I would give a lot of credit for ENDF what they were able to do after they suffered a backstabbing by their own comrades in arm. It took a mental strength to get that off and able to fight back and win.

Why do you think the Junta inside and outside the country are crying Shaebia Shaebia day and night? You will never hear them bad mouthing the Amara Milita and the Fano who also fought and liberated their stolen lands. The reason why you all cry about Shaebia is because you know who
fasten your total demise in 17 days war.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 12:54
euroland wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 22:01
- Underestimated the strength of their enemies, specially the Eritrean forces
- Foolishly thought the Northern command would turn its guns against the rest of the Ethiopian forces if they kill the main Amara commanders within the Northern command.
- They had no Plan "B"
- They really believed their own lies that been telling their people for 29 years.
- The did not have inside intelligence about the strength and preparation of the Amara and the Afar kilil special forces
- President Issayas has been saving billions of dollars for 20 plus years while partially suspending major economic development and expenditures; purchasing heavy artilleries, jets and thousands tanks for 2 years after his country's embargo had lifted and yet they did not have any clue what he was doing. It save to say, they had no intelligence within the Eritrean army as he had on theirs. They found out too late that he has more armaments and manpower than the entire E. Africa.
-They also thought Dr. Abiy is not a fighter type of guy; once the war starts, he would either run away or surrender to their forces within days.
- Ethiopia is a huge country with a lot of resources and if the war drags on, it only gets worse for them not for the central government.
- Finally, they totally forgot, they are completely surrounded by their enemies; therefore, they won't be able to bring in supplies from a third country.
in all of your hyphenated points I couldn't find where you say what the cause was and may I ask you if they had a cause? If they had one, then what was it? If they didn't have one, then isn't that the fundamental point that was missing in all of the orchestera?

If you are on a PR-stunt for President Afworki's military might, then we are yet to going to see where and how it was deployed and caused the "quick and decisive" victory over the TPLF your topic is about.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Feb 2021, 14:55

Abe Abraham wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 11:22
abel qael wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 09:39
[deleted] Eurkintir sebbdeyley mesraqbetraa, now take out my anaconda from your throat, and listen; dsregard the number 500o, instead read it as 5000. That is, you guessed it right, the number of midlevel and high level Tigrean officers that were in the Federal Army till the day Meshrefet declared war o Tigray, and who falsely framed as Juntas and are still house-arrested, or rotting in Ethiopian military camps and/or prisons. Many of them had been killed for nothing ... other than envy ... and are mislabeled as " killed in the battlefield while supporting the juntas" blah, blah . The injustice Meshrefet is doing on Tigray, simply intended to please Amharu and wedimedhin in order to buy the loyal support for his fragile stay in 4killo, is unforgettable and un-excusable.
And Imagine of these 22,000 highly trained soldiers and commanders were on Tigray Side. That is where I think Tigreans like debrepropoor failed Tigray by not thinking ahead, strategically, they put their fate and the fate of Tigray on trusting Ethiopians. Can you imagine trusting Meshrefet, who was always conspiring along with wedimedhin? Shame on TPLF leaders... but they are lucky they have the most resilient people in the world; the great , heroic and most tolerant people: Tigreans.
Do you really think that this policing campaign in Tigray is about emotions, to please and displease someone ? Please as a Tigrayan look at yourself and your crimes.
I still couldn't believe that TPLF is dead, that fats and quick. However; one thing for sure, the Tigryan identity is dead buried. I don't know how they can move forward? This war exposed their cowardness and the diaspora known for tis lies through out the world. wow what a year it was 2020.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by lil kogne » 08 Feb 2021, 16:09

Hey guys please ease up on this Abdel- kewel ( Lutew) aka Aziza. She is dressed up in black mourning her Chigray dream is broken beyond repair. All her Ember Tegadalay bravado is destroyed in to pieces. All Agame golden race became reality that they are mere Gypsies of east Africa. Now they are crying every where world wide for help some of them crawling on the streets like never seen before. Leave the Bit'ch alone for she has been sleepless ever since her Junta left Mekele like thieves they are. Do I really mean this ? Hell No, there is no better time to kick Agames in their pu"ssies when they are down. And they will stay down for Eternity. Way way Agame.

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Re: Why TPLF got defeated so quickly and decisively

Post by DefendTheTruth » 08 Feb 2021, 16:18

euroland wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 14:41
Defend....
Why don't you ask your beloved TPLF leaders and the high ranking military commanders who survived the a'ss kicking and are currently in jail. They would tell their coward behind was kicked my the mighty Shaebia that they had feared it may get involved. Almost all Tigrean major cities were captured by the mighty Shaebia's power with the help of ENDF. At the first few weeks, the ENDF were demoralized and they had no weapons even to defend themselves from your "well armed" the Junta forces. Once the ENDF was armed and well fed (you know by whom), they were easily able marched to every towns and villages of Tigray by decimating your remaining forces afterward. I would give a lot of credit for ENDF what they were able to do after they suffered a backstabbing by their own comrades in arm. It took a mental strength to get that off and able to fight back and win.

Why do you think the Junta inside and outside the country are crying Shaebia Shaebia day and night? You will never hear them bad mouthing the Amara Milita and the Fano who also fought and liberated their stolen lands. The reason why you all cry about Shaebia is because you know who
fasten your total demise in 17 days war.
DefendTheTruth wrote:
08 Feb 2021, 12:54
euroland wrote:
07 Feb 2021, 22:01
- Underestimated the strength of their enemies, specially the Eritrean forces
- Foolishly thought the Northern command would turn its guns against the rest of the Ethiopian forces if they kill the main Amara commanders within the Northern command.
- They had no Plan "B"
- They really believed their own lies that been telling their people for 29 years.
- The did not have inside intelligence about the strength and preparation of the Amara and the Afar kilil special forces
- President Issayas has been saving billions of dollars for 20 plus years while partially suspending major economic development and expenditures; purchasing heavy artilleries, jets and thousands tanks for 2 years after his country's embargo had lifted and yet they did not have any clue what he was doing. It save to say, they had no intelligence within the Eritrean army as he had on theirs. They found out too late that he has more armaments and manpower than the entire E. Africa.
-They also thought Dr. Abiy is not a fighter type of guy; once the war starts, he would either run away or surrender to their forces within days.
- Ethiopia is a huge country with a lot of resources and if the war drags on, it only gets worse for them not for the central government.
- Finally, they totally forgot, they are completely surrounded by their enemies; therefore, they won't be able to bring in supplies from a third country.
in all of your hyphenated points I couldn't find where you say what the cause was and may I ask you if they had a cause? If they had one, then what was it? If they didn't have one, then isn't that the fundamental point that was missing in all of the orchestera?

If you are on a PR-stunt for President Afworki's military might, then we are yet to going to see where and how it was deployed and caused the "quick and decisive" victory over the TPLF your topic is about.
Okay, it just means then that I didn't have enough information and now I should know that the major cities were captured by the "mighty Shabia forces" and the smaller towns and villages were liberated (captured) by the "demoralized and defeated ENDF".

Okay, when was the transfer of power in those major cities to the forces of the Ethiopian side? Or are the "mighty Shabia forces" still occupying them?

"The mighty Shabia Forces" failed, for some reason, to get back a territory they claimed belonged to them for over 20 years from the same "defeated and demoralized" ENDF, at the same time, isn't it? What a coincidence?

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