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[Sadacha Macca]

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Fake historian Ras Derasso was not Gojame he was the servant of Gojame Ras Tekle haymanot Ras Derasso was known for making Oromo tribaldoms to submit to Gojam and to convert to Oriental Christianity

https://books.google.com/books?id=7pYpD ... sso&f=true

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet, unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Noble Agame,
He was an Oromo, fighting under Gojjam, since many, many, Oromo's became Christians and amhara-ized, but were Oromo nonetheless.
This was Menelik's grandfathers, policy: if a new tribe, oromo or not, became christian and spoke amharic, he made them citizens of his expanding kingdom, and he knew that this would benefit him, and add to his empire and he'd have more soldiers, etc.
So they were Oromo, Just assimilated. Amhara-ized Oromos, to say.

[Noble Amhara]

Ras Derasso wasn’t Gojame he was Macha his work was clearing Macha opposition to The kingdom of Gojjam. It is similar to claiming Ras gobana is from the Amhara side of Shewa... If Gojames were to defeat the Kingdom of Shewa. The Gojames would have conquered southern Ethiopia (Kaffa) then Shewans would submit to Gojames and help Gojame Kingdom conquer the rest of the south

[Sadacha Macca]

Gojjame is not an ethnic group, it is a province. It is Amharic speaking, orthodox adherent mostly, but it is composed of Oromo and Amhara's ethnically, the oromo's were assimilated, but that does not mean that they are not Oromo. Hence why, in that same book you quoted, shows that elders from the more purer amhara regions [which are few in number, such as Manz] say ''gojjam galla new,'' or ''gojjam is oromo,'' based on the fact many gojjames are in fact, assimilated oromos. the same way, we oromo assimilated others to our culture.
i am a maccaa oromo myself, from jimma mostly, and i know my people's history very well.

[Noble Amhara]

That’s a lie Gojjam has no Oromo history yes they are Oromo Galla safaris near the Abay river but the mainland of Gojjam is purely Amhara orthodox we can say the same for Selale and northern tulama they are originally Amhara now Oromonized. Arbegna Jagama is Amhara. We can also claim arsi as Amhara because Amharas number 500k in arsi according to ethio demographic

We can also use your silly source by saying the pure borana oromo deny that [Jimma] are Gallas

[Sadacha Macca]

Your own ''Amara'', [I say this, because I know you are an Agame] elders said ''galla gojjam new.''
I am sure, they know better than an agame troll online. They said such a thing, for a reason.
The same book, also says tewodros, who was most likely at least half agew/qimanti, fought the assimilated oromo-gojjame kings.
If you have any proof for the other claims, make another thread for it, and post it. Simple.

[Noble Amhara]

Fake historian

I never heard any Shewa Amhara say Gojjam is Galla the elders of Shewa Amhara say Gojjam r Amharas your source is complete BS cause your oromo culture is based off of lies Gojjam is Amhara just like arsi is Gala

Also you know your hancalu is not Oromo by historical standards that you gallas use on us Ambo belongs to GANZ Gafat people who are not Oromo thus ambos are not even Oromos they are related to gurage

Your own ''Amara'', [I say this, because I know you are an Agame] elders said ''galla gojjam new.''
I am sure, they know better than an agame troll online. They said such a thing, for a reason.
The same book, also says tewodros, who was most likely at least half agew/qimanti, fought the assimilated oromo-gojjame kings.
If you have any proof for the other claims, make another thread for it, and post it. Simple.

[Sadacha Macca]

Fake historian

I never heard any Shewa Amhara say Gojjam is Galla the elders of Shewa Amhara say Gojjam r Amharas your source is complete BS cause your oromo culture is based off of lies Gojjam is Amhara just like arsi is Gala

Also you know your hancalu is not Oromo by historical standards that you gallas use on us Ambo belongs to GANZ Gafat people who are not Oromo thus ambos are not even Oromos they are related to gurage

Your own ''Amara'', [I say this, because I know you are an Agame] elders said ''galla gojjam new.''
I am sure, they know better than an agame troll online. They said such a thing, for a reason.
The same book, also says tewodros, who was most likely at least half agew/qimanti, fought the assimilated oromo-gojjame kings.
If you have any proof for the other claims, make another thread for it, and post it. Simple.

Noble Agame, it is in the same book you posted a link to.
So it's right, when it confirms your belief, but wrong, when it's against what you think/believe, mr agame?
Ah, okay, eshi.

[Temt]

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Agames especially those pretending as non-Agames never cease to amaze me. Now, what in the hell does the highlighted phrase mean to the intelligent world? LOL

[Sadacha Macca]

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Agames especially those pretending as non-Agames never cease to amaze me. Now, what in the hell does the highlighted phrase mean to the intelligent world? LOL

Someone who is an anti Oromo, hater, as in, they are anti Oromo AND a hater [in general, a person full of hatred]. I am sure that you knew what I meant and that's all that matters.
It's interesting that you also failed to address the rest of my comment, perhaps because you know I was right.

[Zmeselo]

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Agames especially those pretending as non-Agames never cease to amaze me. Now, what in the hell does the highlighted phrase mean to the intelligent world? LOL

Someone who is an anti Oromo, hater, as in, they are anti Oromo AND a hater [in general, a person full of hatred]. I am sure that you knew what I meant and that's all that matters.
It's interesting that you also failed to address the rest of my comment, perhaps because you know I was right.

What's the matter with you, man? Should he have agreed with the weyane & their manifesto, & help to disintegrate Ethiopia? And what happened with the Eritrean people, that you use the term "Isaias & co?"

Ebakh, kuffu attanagren.

[Noble Amhara]

Gimb Galla expansionist fake historian will not change Abysinnian history the Galla or Oromos are settlers from Borana Zone in Ethiopia (Kenya) the keptgalla wanderered throughout the country using Gangster Gada system to Gallanize all subjects

Nobody hates gimbgallas the problem begin when Galla tries to cleanse Abysinnians from Abysinnia like mongols tried to eliminate the Persian identity galla works hard to destroy Amharas Habesha Historical Culture by stealing Amhara Lands & Culture

Mostly because Galla failed to eliminate Amharas during their 340 Years of Exterminating every other ethnic in Ethiopia including the Konso and Gedeo in 2021

Amhara naturally borders Muger River to Tekeze River down to the Awash. Amhara has lost around 6 Districts to Gallanization a process of 300 years galla could not defeat Amhara

[Sadacha Macca]

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Agames especially those pretending as non-Agames never cease to amaze me. Now, what in the hell does the highlighted phrase mean to the intelligent world? LOL

Someone who is an anti Oromo, hater, as in, they are anti Oromo AND a hater [in general, a person full of hatred]. I am sure that you knew what I meant and that's all that matters.
It's interesting that you also failed to address the rest of my comment, perhaps because you know I was right.

What's the matter with you, man? Should he have agreed with the weyane & their manifesto, & help to disintegrate Ethiopia? And what happened with the Eritrean people, that you use the term "Isaias & co?"

Ebakh, kuffu attanagren.

Did I lie about something? Is it not ones interests, in politics, that drives one to get involved on one side, or on the other?
When the army of Shabia fought the rivals of the TPLF/EPRDF within Ethiopia, in the 1990's, was it not because Shabia/Eritrea's govt, saw that as being in their people's best interests? Interests remain, alliances change, is that not the rules of the political game(s)?
Then, when the TPLF betrayed Shabia, and even tried to go as far as illegally annexing Eritrean lands, that Shabia/Eritrea's govt sought to avenge itself [and rightfully so]??
Disintegrating Ethiopia cannot happen unless it's the will of its people, Tigray is a small region in the north, if it were to secede today, or tomorrow, Ethiopia would be intact. But, the TPLF, as insane and crazy as they were/are, knows better than that. It's their cyber cadres, such as Obbo Halafi & Co, who think an independent tigray would be viable.

[Aurorae Borealis]

Lakeshore,
Eritreans are sensitive when it comes to Isayas Afeworqi. He is the man who denied Eritreans democratic, rules for the last thirty years. Naturally, there is a lot of nervousness among Eritreans in the opposition. Economically, look where Eritrea is. Eritrea possesses one of the most lucrative corridor in the world. Yet, it is still one of the poorest countries in Africa. But, when you look at it from his supporters point of view , he is the mighty man who fought the West and saved its independence. Some even believe that, independence would not have been realized without him. He is the ultimate hero for them. They trust him while in the opposition, they lost trust in him long time ago. Now, He had hated weyanes so much according to his book, their days were numbered. Luckily, Abbiy read his mind brilliantly. Hence, my enemy is your enemy mantra got fulfilled to the fullest. I understand you. For me, I am as nervous as every one is. I want Eritrea to be as independent as possible. I know Ethiopians are our brothers and sisters. Your victory is our victory. I prefer out relations to depend on fair transaction, based on democratically elected leaders decisions who obey and do what their constituencies tell them to do. Ethiopia has a lot to go. Eritrea is one of the least democratic (No democracy at all ) in the world. Hence we have long ways to go. Having said that, good luck in your future. I hope your future leaders respect Eritrean sovereignty. Sheltering the likes of Endargachew and Brhanu Nega and their betrayal gives us little confidence. But, I am happy for Ethiopia and I hope you treat your fellow Ethiopians from Tigray with respect.

[Roha]

To honour loyal friends, courage and true alliances, nations give each other different kinds of gifts.
This can be titles, name of streets, citizenship, prime land for embassy, arts, educational scholarships,
armaments, hospitals, railway lines ... honorary Phds
Nelson Mandela has received many of these including several citizenship, Mercedes limousine cars, street names ... from many countries.
Will Issaias care about mansions and personal money? Given his history, it is unlikely. He lives a very simple life and eats
ordinary food and wears simple cloth. The material life of his family and his ministers is not different from that of the upper middle income Eritreans in Asmara. His weakness is that he is still working in the only way he knows and trusts - highly centralized political system that is repressive. He needs to learn a lot from Abiy, such as free press and institutional governance, though Abiy is also devolving Ethiopia faster which Prof Mesfin called "sidnet". (Not related issue but only raised it because some have mentioned it.)
Like the old Habesha warriors, he prefers a rugged environment and a simple monastic life in the country side.
To make it easier to Ethiopian readers, in his way of life Issaias is closer to the lives of the old Ethiopian and Eritrean warriors of the 19 century than Meles, Mengistu or Haileselassie were, except he does not go to war with a sword or the old Minishir rifle.

[Zmeselo]

Isayas and co, did it out of preserving their best interests, as opposed to genuinely being concerned for Ethiopia's ''unity'' and so on. His army once fought on the side of the same TPLF, against other political players in Ethiopia, to preserve his perceived interests within Ethiopia & the Horn, so let's not pretend as if he's some angel sent to save Ethiopia.
Not that I blame him for that, since the main rule dictating politics, is to do what's in your best interests, even if it's immoral or wrong in some cases.


On your comment regarding us Oromo's: Why should we fight Sudan when the military hasn't even engaged them yet on a large scale? No major engagements have occurred as of yet unless you have some information that the rest of us aren't aware of?
If the military gets overwhelmed somehow, then the entire populace will be conscripted in a sense, and Ethiopia has never won a major war, without the Oromo soldiery being an essential part of it. Ras Gobana, Ras Darasso of Gojjam, etc, plenty of Oromo military geniuses took part in the major battles that made and protected Ethiopia; but of course, I do not expect an ignorant, anti-Oromo hater, to admit this very obvious truth.

Agames especially those pretending as non-Agames never cease to amaze me. Now, what in the hell does the highlighted phrase mean to the intelligent world? LOL

Someone who is an anti Oromo, hater, as in, they are anti Oromo AND a hater [in general, a person full of hatred]. I am sure that you knew what I meant and that's all that matters.
It's interesting that you also failed to address the rest of my comment, perhaps because you know I was right.

What's the matter with you, man? Should he have agreed with the weyane & their manifesto, & help to disintegrate Ethiopia? And what happened with the Eritrean people, that you use the term "Isaias & co?"

Ebakh, kuffu attanagren.

Did I lie about something? Is it not ones interests, in politics, that drives one to get involved on one side, or on the other?
When the army of Shabia fought the rivals of the TPLF/EPRDF within Ethiopia, in the 1990's, was it not because Shabia/Eritrea's govt, saw that as being in their people's best interests? Interests remain, alliances change, is that not the rules of the political game(s)?
Then, when the TPLF betrayed Shabia, and even tried to go as far as illegally annexing Eritrean lands, that Shabia/Eritrea's govt sought to avenge itself [and rightfully so]??
Disintegrating Ethiopia cannot happen unless it's the will of its people, Tigray is a small region in the north, if it were to secede today, or tomorrow, Ethiopia would be intact. But, the TPLF, as insane and crazy as they were/are, knows better than that. It's their cyber cadres, such as Obbo Halafi & Co, who think an independent tigray would be viable.

I'm not asking for a lesson in Macchiavelian or geo- politics, man. I'm talking about impugning evil intention on someone or some entity, that isn't there.

Leave emotions aside for a second, & think. Mengie had fled the scene in 1991, & there was no central govt. The only way you could've stayed intact had the wey-ANE opted to go it alone is if the US, the UN or some other entity had taken over.

[Abe Abraham]

Sadacha,

Baara fayyaa?

1) - The tiny Island of Tuvalu - the size of a football field - is a sovereign & "viable" country & is a full member state of the United Nations.

2) - Dirt-poor Eritrea that does nothing but send waves after waves of its youngest & brightest to become 'professional toilet cleaners' of their former selato overlords is "a viable" country [dinqem!].

3) - Dirt-poor & AIDS-ravaged Swaziland, Lesotho, The Comoros Islands, [all in El-Afriquia-le-terrible] are "viable" & "sovereign" countries who hold seats in the United Nations assembly halls.

4) - Even Aethiopia - a country best known for its massive famines & endless wars - is a considered a "sovereign" & "viable state despite the glaring fact where more than half of Ethiopians live on ferenji-donated food aid & a large portion of its annual budget is paid-for by ferenji & Asian countries.

So, the concepts of a "viable & sovereign countries" is at best a dubious one for most countries in El-Afriquia-le-terrible.

BUT, more so than the Tegaru-jeganus, I worry more about MY OWN bur eternally HOPELESS GALLAS . IF THIGS CONTINUE AS THEY ARE TODAY, I ANTICIPATE A TERRIBLE INTER-GALLAS CIVIL WARS ERUPTING SOON - MAY WAAQAA/GOD FORBID . Nagaatti obboleessa keena.


PHOTO: AETHIOPIA - JANUARY 2021 [NOW] ...





PHOTO: THE WHOLE OF BEAUTIFUL TUVALU FITS IN ONE PICTURE/PHOTO. YET, TUVALU IS CONSIDERED TO BE A 'VIABLE' & 'SOVEREIGN' COUNTRY WHICH IS ALSO A FULLY-FLEDGED MEMBER OF THE UNITED NATIONS. MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PEOPLE OF TUVALU IS CONSIDERED TO BE 'ONE OF THE HAPPIEST IN THE WORLD!' .. WOW.




PHOTO: TUVALU ON THE WORLD MAP ..

Dead Junta War Criminal!!!

[Lakeshore]

Noble thank you for the fact-checking, truth must be told especially for those Galla.

[Lakeshore]

Temt

From what I observed, you do not want to say it upfront but what is your beef with Issayas? You should exercise your speaking right and say what you really want to say. Do not bring fake stories and try to look sophisticated. Simplicity is the best engineering because everyone can use it.