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Aurorae Borealis
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Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
The outcome will be ugly. Likely outcome, 1. Ethiopia gets all the territories back. 2. Ethiopia forces Sudan to come to the table. 3. Sudan forces Ethiopia to accept reality on the ground. 4. Egypt joins the war, hence protracted war kills Ethiopia, economically and militarily. . Other than the first and second option, the scenario is not good for Ethiopia. Learn from the weyanes. To start a war is very easy. The consequences, you figure that out. When it comes to Egypt and Ethiopia, world opinion always supports Egypt. War is not an option in my opinion. Skilled diplomatic solution is the better solution for all parties.
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Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Gidefom hamed esahanu ni erenna stibuka eyu
Tim elhka miezab eyu rebhana
Nistibukna eyu
Tim elhka miezab eyu rebhana
Nistibukna eyu
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Weyane.is.dead
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Aurorae Borealis
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Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
BTW, it war ignites, Sudan will implicate Eritrea automatically. Reason, Egypt will have an excuse to join the war. Egypt is trying to put the Nile dam to rest for good. Abbiy, needs to weigh his options carefully. As long as the dam stands, Ethiopia will benefit in the long run even if Abbiy signs what Egypt offers. That is to fill the dam in the next fourteen years. I am not saying, Abbiy should sign that document, but invite more negotiations and deal with it as soon as possible. If Sudan's contest for the Benshaqule Gumuz is lightly believable, then this war if ignited will never end.
Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Denkoro abey emo yirideaki
Simple example; Sudan banned Ethiopia to fro plane pass through its airspace and you know what that means all flights have to pass through Eri airspace... more money
Hopefully that was simple enough example
And there’s a whole lot mekseb gin keybezhaki
Nistibukna eyu hamed esehanu
Simple example; Sudan banned Ethiopia to fro plane pass through its airspace and you know what that means all flights have to pass through Eri airspace... more money
Hopefully that was simple enough example
And there’s a whole lot mekseb gin keybezhaki
Nistibukna eyu hamed esehanu
Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 11:02Green eyed buda don't mix Eritrea with your evil thoughts. We want them to bridge their differences in a peaceful manner.
Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
በቃ ከም ዓጋመ ቲአ ሕጂ ትበልዓ ጥራሕ ኢኻ ትጥምት??? መሕፈር፦፦Jaegol wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 13:51Denkoro abey emo yirideaki
Simple example; Sudan banned Ethiopia to fro plane pass through its airspace and you know what that means all flights have to pass through Eri airspace... more money
Hopefully that was simple enough example![]()
And there’s a whole lot mekseb gin keybezhaki
Nistibukna eyu hamed esehanu
Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
DeQi Adi,
good points from some of you. But just to add, this morning according to al jazeera, the sudanese high ranking official general alkabashi is in cairo. Of course the news medias covered it as a routine visit to update his egyptian counterparts concerning the current situation in the border areas with ethiopia. But some political analysts disagree and laugh at it. Mind you egypt has publicly announced few days ago that if sudan is attacked it will stand by them.
Finally, let's hope and pray that there will not be war between sudan and ethio while it will be devastating and disastrous to both of them and their neighbor countries won't be spared either.
good points from some of you. But just to add, this morning according to al jazeera, the sudanese high ranking official general alkabashi is in cairo. Of course the news medias covered it as a routine visit to update his egyptian counterparts concerning the current situation in the border areas with ethiopia. But some political analysts disagree and laugh at it. Mind you egypt has publicly announced few days ago that if sudan is attacked it will stand by them.
Finally, let's hope and pray that there will not be war between sudan and ethio while it will be devastating and disastrous to both of them and their neighbor countries won't be spared either.
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Weyane.is.dead
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Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Wediza sher.muta kelbi Im a man don't refer to me with yirideaki. Sebeytay jaegol, aurelis, campo, landlord, eripoblican enabelki shem keyayeri ata l.uti wedibuttanella.
Hasad buda i could careless about the money. I'd rather have them make peace and lose the "more money"
Hasad buda i could careless about the money. I'd rather have them make peace and lose the "more money"
Jaegol wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 13:51Denkoro abey emo yirideaki
Simple example; Sudan banned Ethiopia to fro plane pass through its airspace and you know what that means all flights have to pass through Eri airspace... more money
Hopefully that was simple enough example![]()
And there’s a whole lot mekseb gin keybezhaki
Nistibukna eyu hamed esehanu
Weyane.is.dead wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 11:02Green eyed buda don't mix Eritrea with your evil thoughts. We want them to bridge their differences in a peaceful manner.
Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
With whom does egypt and sudan negotiate exactly? And for what? it is more than land or water! It is a vote of no confidence in the MAGA/MEGA restorationist agenda of abiy, ezemas stolen roadmap, medemer's theocracy where it can only be taken by faith. Sudan was fine until a few weeks ago's scuffle with amhara restorationist fano. Conflicts had been there all along. It is rather the attitude and the size of the backing that prompted the sizable actions with no end in sight so long as the MAGA restorationist agenda is still intact.
Egypt and water?are you kidding me? You know that they were even investing heavily during hydro engineer HMDS time and was a participant in the NBI technical teams effort to engineer equitable distribution. Egypt knows that it cant police water usage in the small tributaries in a bulging horn of africa population. And that the technical team is the only way forward but then our man child destroyed it with one stroke.
Heck, egypt's worry now is more serious and its structural! Where a large bulk of the population is disgruntled so bitterly, who is there to keep it from sabotage? 12sigma apple cant survive with the degree of disenchantment that exists at GERDs Beneshangul region! The tripartite technical committee didnt signoff under these work environment.
Egypt and water?are you kidding me? You know that they were even investing heavily during hydro engineer HMDS time and was a participant in the NBI technical teams effort to engineer equitable distribution. Egypt knows that it cant police water usage in the small tributaries in a bulging horn of africa population. And that the technical team is the only way forward but then our man child destroyed it with one stroke.
Heck, egypt's worry now is more serious and its structural! Where a large bulk of the population is disgruntled so bitterly, who is there to keep it from sabotage? 12sigma apple cant survive with the degree of disenchantment that exists at GERDs Beneshangul region! The tripartite technical committee didnt signoff under these work environment.
Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Aurorae Borealis wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 10:47The outcome will be ugly. Likely outcome, 1. Ethiopia gets all the territories back. 2. Ethiopia forces Sudan to come to the table. 3. Sudan forces Ethiopia to accept reality on the ground. 4. Egypt joins the war, hence protracted war kills Ethiopia, economically and militarily. . Other than the first and second option, the scenario is not good for Ethiopia. Learn from the weyanes. To start a war is very easy. The consequences, you figure that out. When it comes to Egypt and Ethiopia, world opinion always supports Egypt. War is not an option in my opinion. Skilled diplomatic solution is the better solution for all parties.
Brother Aurorae,
I think Ethiopia should by any means avoid war with Sudan.. Both countries should resolve their conflict peacefully. In my opinion, Ethiopia and Sudan should sit around table to work with an Independent boundary commission. Because it will be a lose-lose situation for both countries if they start to full fledged war. I have no idea about the disputed lands/territory ..It could be Ethiopian or it could be Sudanese.. Regardless, if both countries honestly believe that their only conflict is border issue, demarcate through an independent boundary commission like Eritrea and Ethiopia have done.... Sadly there might be other players who want war between both countries so badly so that they will be able to fulfill their agenda. I think Ethiopia needs to patient till Summer and then Ethiopia will definitely be on the driver seat. The good thing is that I am very confident on the judgement and intelligence of the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Honorable Prime Minister Dr. Abby' government to play is smartly...
If there will be war between Ethiopia and Sudan, I don't think it will take much time for Ethiopia to kick Sudan out from the disputed territory. However, I personally don't believe that war brings a sustainable solution for both countries and specially the people who live at the border areas....I get that low IQ and desperate Wayanay Digital warriors are praying for war between Ethiopia and Sudan probably because they think the war might resuscitate Sium Mesfin and Abay Tsehaye from their death and let Aboy Sibhat Nega and Abay Woldu free from Prison, we Eritreans should express our desire of peaceful resolution between our neighboring countries Ethiopia and Sudan...
May Peace Prevail between Ethiopia and Sudan!!!
Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF
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Abe Abraham
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Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Don't take it literally. Egypt is having its own difficult problems to deal with in the Sinai.kerenite wrote: ↑14 Jan 2021, 14:21DeQi Adi,
good points from some of you. But just to add, this morning according to al jazeera, the sudanese high ranking official general alkabashi is in cairo. Of course the news medias covered it as a routine visit to update his egyptian counterparts concerning the current situation in the border areas with ethiopia. But some political analysts disagree and laugh at it. Mind you egypt has publicly announced few days ago that if sudan is attacked it will stand by them.
Finally, let's hope and pray that there will not be war between sudan and ethio while it will be devastating and disastrous to both of them and their neighbor countries won't be spared either.
Most of what you people are saying here is stupid.
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Aurorae Borealis
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Re: Should Abbiy go to war with Sudan ?
Hawzen,
I like the independent mediators concept like the one with Eritrea and Ethiopia, but the Hague courts had it with the weyanes decision last time around
. I heard Emperor Menelik had signed a treaty with the Brits back in 1903, just like ours. But, it is different from the Eritrean case for the Brits have left Sudan before Second World War. The OAU treaty of border delimitation came after the second world war. In other words, would Ethiopia accept the treaty in question ? If the treaty involved the Benshaqule Gumuz area, I am not sure if Ethiopia honors that treaty. The decision would be made by the international court, and either country can reject the ruling. I believe Egypt and Sudan are playing games to push Abbiy under extreme duress. BTW, Eritrea should come as a peace breaker between the two. Sudan is very suspicious about Eritrea for one reason. Sudan would love to make Eritrea the scape goat so that Egypt would have an excuse to enter the war if war breaks.
I like the independent mediators concept like the one with Eritrea and Ethiopia, but the Hague courts had it with the weyanes decision last time around