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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Zmeselo » 29 Dec 2020, 17:46

Asmara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 14:28
Zmeselo wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 13:54
ZEMEN wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 12:28
Aurorae Borealis wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 11:59
Zemen,

You wrote,
I see a bright future for Eritrea. even on the times of hostilities by the junta, the Eritreans were busy building their country. They have building small but effective dams and they have been protecting their soils from erosion as well as forestation. So, right now, Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia, economically. People were laughing when the Eritreans talk about dams but no one is laughing now, they collected so much water, there is not a litter of water that wasted. once you get water, the rest is.......pufffffffffffffff]
Building dams is very good, but that should be the work of local sub units of governments, and the famers themselves. I don't want to see the president digging on the dams, I want him hammering international trade deals with the help of Harvard or Yale graduate Eritreans instead of expelling them out of the country. I want him to keep local capital and allow savy merchants and enterpreuners do their magic. In 1935, Addis Ababa was a muddy little village. Asmara looked like a beautiful Italian City/Town. Now, Look at the two cites and wonder what happened. Blame Haile Sellasie and Mengistu. Don't be Naive. Isayas had Asmara for the last thirty years too.
Aurora
My understanding is the approach of the nation building idea. From my understanding Eritrea is following the Singapore style of nation building, Bottom-up and you are suggesting the typical top-down nation building idea. So, you are not wrong but the two ways of nation building are different in approach. the top-down national building is practiced by all African countries while Eritrea is the first country to try this approach and let wait and see. From what i can see, once social justice is accomplished the, the rest is.......cake. Africa will never be democratic with out achieving social justice and social justice can only be bottom-up nation building style. from what i can see and understand. my 2 cents.
Bravo, Zemen! You're totally right.

What these chatterboxes are missing (consciously avoiding) is the fact that the country has had only 5 years of peace, since its Independence. The remaining years have been years of war, no war-no peace, sanctions and all sorts of other foreign induced problems. But even with that (any other country would've collapsed), the country built the dams you mentioned (to a cost of nearly a billion nakfa), revived its mining sector, hit almost all MDG's, eradicated illiteracy etc etc etc

Is there a lot more left to be done? Definitely! But we'll reach there, if the warmongering demons completely disappear from our region.

Ppl like djiboutian Zack, should just stfu. His country is one family's personal property, yet has the gall to criticize Eritrea's leadership.

Believe you me, if President Isaias was hated even a reaction of that which these ppl here hate him, he would've been gone a long time ago.
Zmeleso

I know you are an intelligent person for which I
have tremendous respect for you. But I would like to ask you few questions:

It is a common knowledge that Eritrea faced its biggest challenge in the last 22/23 years in terms of war, sanction, instability, no war no peace etc. But do you think some remedial measures could have eased the situation?
Example:
1. Allowing Eritreans to invest in their own country in construction, business, trade, services etc. When I say this I have all those Eritrean entrepreneurs in Juba, Rwanda, Angola, Uganda in mind. Don't you think we have missed a massive investment that could transform our economy, generate jobs for the youth, prevent migration etc?

2. Instead of keeping the youth in the army indefinitely, you keep on circulating them. When they complete their 18 month service you allow them to lead a civilian life. If a threat appears you call them up.

3. I believe that at least the above policies would have eased the problems we experiencing to a certain extent.

4. This doesn't mean that there were no developmental activities happening in the last 20 years but more could have been done.

Thanks.
1. I don't know if there ever was any hinderance for businessmen to Invest being not a businessmen myself, but the terms provided might've been unattractive to profit minded businessmen. I think the bottom- up approach to devt Zemen alluded to, can have something to do with it too. Very few extremely rich, vs. the majority is not a business model the govt prefers. You can take the ports, for instance. The govt could easily have leased them out like Djibouti has done but no, they're the ppl's property. Few rich, with a bunch of y'kealos with no money is a recipe for disaster. Do you know Al amoudi contacted Eritrea first before going to the weyane, & got rebuffed?

When a middle class is formed in Eritrea, then foreign investment can be readily sought out & encouraged.

2. This is the most important part from your questions. You put it very simplistically but without them there wouldn't be any country to speak of, hence invest in. Besides, we focus on those who run away but how many of the youths who stayed put have gone to college & have become Doctors & Engineers? Quite many. Those who didn't make it to college were trained in carpentry, electricity, driving machinaries etc etc

I agree with you in points 3 & 4, & I'm realistic enough to believe the govt makes mistakes & has weaknesses (PIA is the 1st one to admit himself, as I heard him say in many interviews.) Better days are in the horizon, tho.

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Sabur » 29 Dec 2020, 21:36


Zemen:

Can you explain why Eritrea has to integrate its Economy with Ethiopia as you stated "Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia" ?

What does this mean? Does it mean Eritrea's economy should be tailored to Ethiopia's Economy, meaning everytime Ethiopia's Economic Planning changes Eritrea has to adjust accordingly?

What will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia charters a new economic plan that fits its own advantage which does not require Eritrea's?

Or what will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia's Economy collapses ?


Eritrea needs to envisage a diverse Economic Strategy that is not based on One Foreign Country's Economic Plan.

Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Educated and Skilled work forces, and Strong Democratic Institutions.

Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.

Singapore did not tailor its economy to that of Malaysia?

ZEMEN wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 11:21

I see a bright future for Eritrea. even on the times of hostilities by the junta, the Eritreans were busy building their country. They have building small but effective dams and they have been protecting their soils from erosion as well as forestation. So, right now, Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia, economically. People were laughing when the Eritreans talk about dams but no one is laughing now, they collected so much water, there is not a litter of water that wasted. once you get water, the rest is.......pufffffffffffffff
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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 21:44

Saburs Sing a Poor :lol:

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Sabur » 29 Dec 2020, 22:07


ንፍጣም Amhara:

We, Eritreans, know you how jealous and envious you are about Eritrea and the Eritrean People.
Eritreans do not get bothered, in fact appreciate, by the development of neighboring countries, since we have the self confidence of "Can Do Attitude".

The following Truth is eating you alive out of Jealousy, causing you grief and losing sleep over day and night.

"Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Educated and Skilled work forces, and Strong Democratic Institutions.
Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.
"


Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 21:44
Saburs Sing a Poor :lol:

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 22:08

TigraySabur must be Jealous of Eritreas Shida and Container Items :P




Come and Loot all you Tigrays can :lol: :lol:

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Sabur » 29 Dec 2020, 22:21


ንፍጣም amhara:

Those Shida destroyed eradicated the donkey's Boots out of Eritrea and Ethiopia completely. I am sorry to cause you grief by reminding you what the Shida wearing Eritreans did to your brother.





Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:08
TigraySabur must be Jealous of Eritreas Shida and Container Items :P



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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Noble Amhara » 29 Dec 2020, 22:31

Agame Junta don’t forget when we Amharas helped you cross the Nile River to fight the Tyrant Mengistu! Now come and fight Wedimedhin your Pharaoh and then Liberate your “Eritrea” you’ve been hiding from for 26 years :lol: :mrgreen:
Sabur wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:21

ንፍጣም amhara:

Those Shida destroyed eradicated the donkey's Boots out of Eritrea and Ethiopia completely. I am sorry to cause you grief by reminding you what the Shida wearing Eritreans did to your brother.





Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:08
TigraySabur must be Jealous of Eritreas Shida and Container Items :P



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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Sabur » 30 Dec 2020, 01:03


ከርናፍ ሓሳድ ኣምሓራይ:

Do you see Eritrea's serene Rea Sea? Jealous ?

Keep on salivating until your fvcking mouth becomes as dry as the Sahara Desert.

Dolphins swimming in the Red Sea which belongs to Eritreans !!

I am sure you will commit suicide if more pictures posted,




Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:31
Agame Junta don’t forget when we Amharas helped you cross the Nile River to fight the Tyrant Mengistu! Now come and fight Wedimedhin your Pharaoh and then Liberate your “Eritrea” you’ve been hiding from for 26 years :lol: :mrgreen:
Sabur wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:21

ንፍጣም amhara:

Those Shida destroyed eradicated the donkey's Boots out of Eritrea and Ethiopia completely. I am sorry to cause you grief by reminding you what the Shida wearing Eritreans did to your brother.





Noble Amhara wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 22:08
TigraySabur must be Jealous of Eritreas Shida and Container Items :P



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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Noble Amhara » 30 Dec 2020, 01:06

The Red Sea is only for Wedimedhin you act as if you live in a free TPLF Arteran state :mrgreen:

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Meleket » 30 Dec 2020, 05:26

ጸባ ኣስቲካና ጸባ ስተ Sabur ወዲ ዓበይቲ!

ትሕበኒ’ዶ ዓደይ፧ ትሕበኒ’ዶ ዓደይ፧” ዲዩ ዚበለ ዳዊት ሽላን፧

ከመይ ዘይትሕበን ኤሩና፡ ብጭብጢን ብጭዉነትን ሞጊቶም ዝረትዑ ጀጋኑ ወሊዳ እንዲያ ከም Sabur. :mrgreen:

ኣለዉና ኣለዋና . . . ምእንቲ ሓቂ ደው ዚብሉ ደው ዚብላ :lol:

ኣለዉና ኣለዋና . . . ብሥልጡን ኣገባብ ሞጊቶም ዝረትዑ ዝረትዓ :lol:

ኣለዉና ኣለዋና . . . ብርእሶም ዝሓስቡ ዝሓስባ :lol:

ኣብ ልቢ ነፍስወከፍ ኤርትራዊ ዛሎ ሓቂ ስለዝገለጽካልና ሕጂ ኢና “ቅሰኒ ኤርትራ፡ ቅሰኑ ሰማእታት ኤርትራ!” እንብል ደቂ ኤርትራ ብሓበራ!፡ እቱይ ምንታይ ኤርትራ ውላድ መኻን ስለዘይኾነት!

ሓቂ ምስ ገለጽና ንሓሶት ነሸቝርራ፣
ፍለጡና በሉ ንሕና ኢና ኤርትራ ራ ራ ራ ራ ራ ራ ራ ራ!. . .! (ኣርባዕተ ሚለየን ነጥብታት)
:mrgreen:

Sabur wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 21:36

Zemen:

Can you explain why Eritrea has to integrate its Economy with Ethiopia as you stated "Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia" ?

What does this mean? Does it mean Eritrea's economy should be tailored to Ethiopia's Economy, meaning everytime Ethiopia's Economic Planning changes Eritrea has to adjust accordingly?

What will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia charters a new economic plan that fits its own advantage which does not require Eritrea's?

Or what will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia's Economy collapses ?


Eritrea needs to envisage a diverse Economic Strategy that is not based on One Foreign Country's Economic Plan.

Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Educated and Skilled work forces, and Strong Democratic Institutions.

Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.

Singapore did not tailor its economy to that of Malaysia?

ZEMEN wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 11:21

I see a bright future for Eritrea. even on the times of hostilities by the junta, the Eritreans were busy building their country. They have building small but effective dams and they have been protecting their soils from erosion as well as forestation. So, right now, Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia, economically. People were laughing when the Eritreans talk about dams but no one is laughing now, they collected so much water, there is not a litter of water that wasted. once you get water, the rest is.......pufffffffffffffff

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Deqi-Arawit » 30 Dec 2020, 10:07

Zmeselo wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 17:46

1. I don't know if there ever was any hinderance for businessmen to Invest being not a businessmen myself, but the terms provided might've been unattractive to profit minded businessmen. I think the bottom- up approach to devt Zemen alluded to, can have something to do with it too. Very few extremely rich, vs. the majority is not a business model the govt prefers. You can take the ports, for instance. The govt could easily have leased them out like Djibouti has done but no, they're the ppl's property. Few rich, with a bunch of y'kealos with no money is a recipe for disaster. Do you know Al amoudi contacted Eritrea first before going to the weyane, & got rebuffed?

When a middle class is formed in Eritrea, then foreign investment can be readily sought out & encouraged.

2. This is the most important part from your questions. You put it very simplistically but without them there wouldn't be any country to speak of, hence invest in. Besides, we focus on those who run away but how many of the youths who stayed put have gone to college & have become Doctors & Engineers? Quite many. Those who didn't make it to college were trained in carpentry, electricity, driving machinaries etc etc

I agree with you in points 3 & 4, & I'm realistic enough to believe the govt makes mistakes & has weaknesses (PIA is the 1st one to admit himself, as I heard him say in many interviews.) Better days are in the horizon, tho.
Aye Shitmeslo! You are a loyal super idiot cadre who can't even convince yourself to what you are saying.

You can't create a middle class economy by making every citizen of the country a property of a regime who is accountable to no one. Plus, if planned economy didn't function and failed to uplift people from their poverty in former communist countries, what kind of magic does the regime has to make a failed system work in Eritrea? Did the Soviet Union created a middle class economy by adopting a planned economy? Did China created a middle class economy by sticking to communist economic ideology? All former socialist countries have abandoned this failure economic policy and instead they adopted the capitalist system which uplifted more than 300 million Chinese from utter poverty and made china the second largest economy in the world. Vietnam, China, Poland, the baltic states, Bangladesh and many other countries are making some economic miracles by adopting to western system of capitalism, while here you are delighted to see some small dams constructed by a government. you have too much low expectation and this is what drive the country to be bottom of the bottom in every parameter. Small project like the dams we see in Eritrea shouldn't even embarked by a government but by a village or city. For instance, Melake, a private citizen, the founder and the Former CEO of the construction firm Asbeco embarked to build a dam in his ancestral village of Tseaazega but the regime denied him that. Speaking of Melake, The man left Italy to contribute his share to develop his country. however like mobsters, the regime coerced him to allow them to be share holders, despite there is no input coming from them, no capital, no know how, no nothing but they forced their way to be partners any way. They pushed their way to be minority share holders in his firm, but step by step they pushed him away and ultimatly, they tried to frame him and put him in prison. luckily, he was able to flee Eritrea before they could get away with their plan. Today Melake started his business all over again in South Sudan.

Wedi Vacaro was another business man who not only invested in intercontinental hotel, Gorgusum hotel and other ventures, but he also tried to help his ancestral village of Adi Gebray with the transport hustle the villagers faced, yet again, the regime denied him, and you know what they did to him afterwards.

Another businessman; Wedi Legesse who was referred by the locals as the fathers of the poor ruled his agriculture business in Gash-Barka with a European model, by offering his workers all the benefits it entails, however, once he started to Get the attention, the regime confiscated his wealth and all the things he build and they put him to prison without any charge. This year, they called his relatives to inform them that the man has died in prison and only God knows if he died because of health condition or because they killed him.




a Government, unless it is a big project which require big budget like highways, electric power etc etc, shouldn't even join the market of projects which require modest budget. all it should do is legislate laws which is conducive to local business and direct foreign investment.


Here are what Governments do, they don't own night clubs or they don't Frame people and put them in prison like wedi medhin berad because they want to confiscate their wealth.


Beside this, when Wedi Medhin berad said, I prefer a shepherd who grew the number of his sheep from 50 to 500 sheeps than an investor with a samsonite luggage, does this kind of mind set encourage people to dream and hope? But whom I am talking, you are a low expectation moral-less cadres to understand what I am saying.

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by ZEMEN » 30 Dec 2020, 11:30

Sabur wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 21:36

Zemen:

Can you explain why Eritrea has to integrate its Economy with Ethiopia as you stated "Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia" ?

What does this mean? Does it mean Eritrea's economy should be tailored to Ethiopia's Economy, meaning everytime Ethiopia's Economic Planning changes Eritrea has to adjust accordingly?

What will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia charters a new economic plan that fits its own advantage which does not require Eritrea's?

Or what will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia's Economy collapses ?


Eritrea needs to envisage a diverse Economic Strategy that is not based on One Foreign Country's Economic Plan.

Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Educated and Skilled work forces, and Strong Democratic Institutions.

Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.

Singapore did not tailor its economy to that of Malaysia?

ZEMEN wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 11:21

I see a bright future for Eritrea. even on the times of hostilities by the junta, the Eritreans were busy building their country. They have building small but effective dams and they have been protecting their soils from erosion as well as forestation. So, right now, Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia, economically. People were laughing when the Eritreans talk about dams but no one is laughing now, they collected so much water, there is not a litter of water that wasted. once you get water, the rest is.......pufffffffffffffff
* Sure; Eritrea needs to integrate her economy with Ethiopia for maxima and viable life standard. Ethiopian population is exploding and Djibouti port is not going to handle it. as we speak, the port is crowded and ships are waiting up to three to four weeks to unload their merchandises. In short, Eritrea buys what she wants from Ethiopia and Ethiopia pays to use the ports, win win situation.
* No, Eritrea should not tailored anything because of Ethiopia and visa versa but they should cooperate in a good faith. All Eritrea has to do is let Ethiopia use the port at fair cost.
* You see, the good point is we all have learned. Ethiopians learned that force won't work with Eritrea and Eritrean learned taking advantage won't work with Ethiopia. So, this time around the economic plan is a win win solution what is good for the people.
* Ethiopian economy it might be down like all economics but collapsing? i don't see it. once the dam is starts to function, you will see that Ethiopia is taking off. And the same thing for Eritrea, once the culliuli potash project starts, the sky is the limit.
* Right what Eritrea need is, keep what she is doing. built the nation from the bottom up. save the water, the soil and keep with amazing public health sector. once the potash project starts, then Foreign Country's Economic Plan will kick in. That is the mistake all African country make, including Ethiopia. Instead of using the water and the fertile soil to feed the people, they sit with IMF to talk Foreign Country's about Economic Plan. trust me on this one Eritrea is doing it the right way. is it tough? absolutely!
* I know Eritrea has many options what is no option is to leave citizens behind. If you go to Ethiopia and Addis Abeba; you see people with excess and ridiculous life style and on the same city, you people starving to death. Not right. I do like the social justice Eritrea is trying to do. If continue that path, watch out.
* You are right Singapore and Malaysia didn't have the same economic plan and see what the difference is?
My whole point is there are two big events for Eritrea and Ethiopia economic integration that will work. GERD dam for Ethiopia, once is done, Eritrea will have a full access to her electric power need. Culliuli and ports of Eritrea will be a game changer for Eritrea economic freedom. when both countries used their naturals to gather and used it to their people's advantage, then, they have arrived. That is once the people who were born with King and Derg are gone, because "Aseb Yegna new" doesn't work for Eritrea. it has been tried. I see a bright future.

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Re: Now that the boogie man (Junita) is out...Where is Eritrea going ?

Post by Sabur » 31 Dec 2020, 11:52


Having services of Eritrean Ports available for Ethiopia does not necessarily mean "Integrating Eritrea's Economy with Ethiopia".
The Eritrean Ports services should be open and available for any country wishes to use, not only Ethiopia.

Ethiopia can use the Eritrean Port services on a freewill as it sees fit for its economical advantages. If Ethiopia finds better alternatives, then Ethiopia is bound free to use other port services.
By the way the Eritrean ports were freely available for Ethiopia from 1991 to 1997, till ethiopia refused/boycotted the Eritrean Ports.

There is this misleading notion that Eritrea's Economy suffered (stagnated) in the last 20 years because of Ethiopia's refusal to use the Eritrean Ports.

One of the main reasons, besides others (for later), for the stagnation of the Eritrean Economy is the unjust economical sanctions imposed against Eritrea to appease Ethiopia or "quid pro quo" for Ethiopia's dirty bidding involvement in Somalia as an errand of the US. No country wants to take the risk of investment or trade relations with Eritrea.

Otherwise Eritrea could have easily recovered the loss of revenue from Ethiopia through other services of the Assab and Massaw Ports. Eritrea could also have developed other viable economic developments given Eritrea's Hard Working People, Natural Resources, beautiful and strategic location that do not depend on Eritrea's Port.

You might be right about Ethiopia's exploding population, But do you see Ethiopia's Exploding Economy ? The answer is NO.

The average daily income of Majority Ethiopians is less than One Dollar, so their purchasing power is non-existent. Is there any potential that for Ethiopia's economic growth? Yes there might be. But Eritrea is not going to wait until the Ethiopia's economy grows while other opportunities are abound.
And no one can guess with certainty about the political stability in Ethiopia. I hope PM Aby and his administration have the backing of the people to maintain stability for the economy to grow fast. And this does not mean Eritrea and Ethiopia will not have trade relations.

There are other initiatives going on around the Area of more developed Regional Economy that span the most of the middle east countries - Israel, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Yemen, UAE, Sudan,...

We should not be surprised to see that most middle east countries normalizing their relations with Israel and the American Investment coming to Sudan. Eritrea has to look into this and share what it can offer. Eritrea needs to envisage a diverse Economic Strategy that is not based on One Foreign Country's Economic Plan.

You did not answer the following questions:

"What will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia charters a new economic plan that fits its own advantage which does not require Eritrea's?

Or what will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia's Economy collapses ?
"

Again Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Retain Educated and Skilled work forces, and Build Strong Democratic Institutions.

Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.

Singapore did not tailor its economy to that of Malaysia.

I do not know how/where you got this unfounded "Eritrea taking advantage..."
During the period between 1991 and 1997, Eritrea had a trade deficit with Ethiopia (Andeberhan, Eritrea at Crossroads). Unfounded, concocted, baseless information can not be basis for an argument.

By the way most Ethiopians were supporting Meles Zenawi's push for the sanction against Eritrea through IGAD, AU and then UNSC although they hated his Minority Leadership in Ethiopia.

ቅንኣት : ተተሓሒዝና ንውደቕ : This Crap Mentality still lurks in the minds of Ethiopians.

What problems does Eritrea pose if Eritrea wants to follow Singapore ? Eritrea is a free country.
And believe me Eritrea has a much better avenue to be like Singapore in a short time.

Yes the whole region needs to have peace, good neighboring relation among all countries to develop and thrive with out appeasing any outlawed expansion dreams and pompous countries.

Eritrea and the Eritrean People wish peace and prosperity for the whole Region of the Horn Africa.

Peace to the Horn of Africa !
Peace to the Eritrean People !
Peace to the Ethiopian People !

Viva Eritrea !!


ZEMEN wrote:
30 Dec 2020, 11:30
Sabur wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 21:36

Zemen:

Can you explain why Eritrea has to integrate its Economy with Ethiopia as you stated "Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia" ?

What does this mean? Does it mean Eritrea's economy should be tailored to Ethiopia's Economy, meaning everytime Ethiopia's Economic Planning changes Eritrea has to adjust accordingly?

What will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia charters a new economic plan that fits its own advantage which does not require Eritrea's?

Or what will Eritrea do if, for example, Ethiopia's Economy collapses ?


Eritrea needs to envisage a diverse Economic Strategy that is not based on One Foreign Country's Economic Plan.

Eritrea has many options, many opportunities and best positioned to improve and excel its economy given its hard working people, natural resources, and geographical location. I think what Eritrea needs is to have developed Human Capital i.e, Educated and Skilled work forces, and Strong Democratic Institutions.

Then Eritrea's Economic miracles will come like water fall.

Singapore did not tailor its economy to that of Malaysia?

ZEMEN wrote:
29 Dec 2020, 11:21

I see a bright future for Eritrea. even on the times of hostilities by the junta, the Eritreans were busy building their country. They have building small but effective dams and they have been protecting their soils from erosion as well as forestation. So, right now, Eritrea ready to launch her economy by integrating with Ethiopia, economically. People were laughing when the Eritreans talk about dams but no one is laughing now, they collected so much water, there is not a litter of water that wasted. once you get water, the rest is.......pufffffffffffffff
* Sure; Eritrea needs to integrate her economy with Ethiopia for maxima and viable life standard. Ethiopian population is exploding and Djibouti port is not going to handle it. as we speak, the port is crowded and ships are waiting up to three to four weeks to unload their merchandises. In short, Eritrea buys what she wants from Ethiopia and Ethiopia pays to use the ports, win win situation.
* No, Eritrea should not tailored anything because of Ethiopia and visa versa but they should cooperate in a good faith. All Eritrea has to do is let Ethiopia use the port at fair cost.
* You see, the good point is we all have learned. Ethiopians learned that force won't work with Eritrea and Eritrean learned taking advantage won't work with Ethiopia. So, this time around the economic plan is a win win solution what is good for the people.
* Ethiopian economy it might be down like all economics but collapsing? i don't see it. once the dam is starts to function, you will see that Ethiopia is taking off. And the same thing for Eritrea, once the culliuli potash project starts, the sky is the limit.
* Right what Eritrea need is, keep what she is doing. built the nation from the bottom up. save the water, the soil and keep with amazing public health sector. once the potash project starts, then Foreign Country's Economic Plan will kick in. That is the mistake all African country make, including Ethiopia. Instead of using the water and the fertile soil to feed the people, they sit with IMF to talk Foreign Country's about Economic Plan. trust me on this one Eritrea is doing it the right way. is it tough? absolutely!
* I know Eritrea has many options what is no option is to leave citizens behind. If you go to Ethiopia and Addis Abeba; you see people with excess and ridiculous life style and on the same city, you people starving to death. Not right. I do like the social justice Eritrea is trying to do. If continue that path, watch out.
* You are right Singapore and Malaysia didn't have the same economic plan and see what the difference is?
My whole point is there are two big events for Eritrea and Ethiopia economic integration that will work. GERD dam for Ethiopia, once is done, Eritrea will have a full access to her electric power need. Culliuli and ports of Eritrea will be a game changer for Eritrea economic freedom. when both countries used their naturals to gather and used it to their people's advantage, then, they have arrived. That is once the people who were born with King and Derg are gone, because "Aseb Yegna new" doesn't work for Eritrea. it has been tried. I see a bright future.

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