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በሻንቅላ ያለው ዎያኔ ትግሬ መቼ ነው የሚቀጣው?

Post by Horus » 16 Dec 2020, 04:32

በኒሻንጉል ማለት ወልደ ሻንቁል ወይም የሻ ንቅላ ልጅ ማለት ነው። ያን አገር የሚያምሰው በርሃቡ ግዜ የሰፈረው ትግሬ ነው ወይስ በዚያ ያለው ሻን ቅላ? ይህ ነገር ለምንድን ነው እንዲህ እንቆቅልሽ ሆኖ የሰው ልጅ በአረመኔዎች ለአመታት ሚታረዱት? መቼ ነው አቢይ እና የኢትዮጵያ ሰራዊት ይህን ጉዳይ የሚቋጩት?

This is 2 years ago ....


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Post by Guest1 » 16 Dec 2020, 06:04

በኒሻንጉል ማለት ወልደ ሻንቁል ወይም የሻ ንቅላ ልጅ ማለት ነው።
ነው? :P
ቀደም ብሎ ጎጃምና ወለጋ ከነበረው መሬት ተወሰዶ የሁለት ብሄሮች ክልል በኒ ሻንጉል ተፈጠረ ሲባል ነበር።
30% ለማይመሉ ሁለት ብሄሮች ይህን ሰፊ መሬት ከመሰጠቱም በላይ የወለጋ ኦሮሞና የጎጃም አማራው ከአስተዳደሩ ከመገለልም በላይ አሁን አገርህ አይደለም እየተባለ ነው። የወለጋና የጎጃም የተባለው ተሰርዞ አሁን አሁን ስፋሪዎች መደጋገሙ ቅንነት የጎደለው ይመስላል።

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Post by kibramlak » 16 Dec 2020, 06:26

Dear Horus,

This is very interesting question. In my view, in this puzzle, there is a big power play. During the tplf period, obviously, tplf wanted to control anything Beneshangul. Now, in Abiy's time, gaIIas have great interest to control Beneshangul and the hippopotamus Aba dulla is said to be behind the plan of "greater oromia" of olf/opdo, same way as the miserably failed " greater Tigray " of tplf. Abiy is a shrewd anti-amhara person who has never cared for the massacre of amharas.

Mind you, when he decided to fight tplf, he has never fought the system. He was just fighting the individuals who appeared to be a threat to to his power. He sings Ethiopia while his crew is heavily engaged in the grand plan of gaIIa expansion and invasion. We have got a capable national army to stop this and even the Amhara special force could do that (being (or supposed to be) the one concerned primary) could do that. Unless Olf/opdo has a green light from Abiy, how on earth this much crimes are committed perpetually in a country who is supposed to have a leader ? Why do you think gaIIas are crying on the repossession of wolkayt even more than tplf cadres ?? Wolkyt is a take off platform to attack gaIIas if one day gaIIas controls Beneshangul.

The idi@t and moron gaIIas know nothing other than replicating what tplf had done. Tplf had a plan to integrate Beneshangul so that they could have fertile land a cash cow aka GERD. GaIIas are exactly in that state of mind. This is all without mentioning the gaIIa invasion of Addis to the level that even tplf's record is beaten. My brother, when you connect the dots, you will see some line that bring yoy to the bigger picture.
Horus wrote:
16 Dec 2020, 04:32
በኒሻንጉል ማለት ወልደ ሻንቁል ወይም የሻ ንቅላ ልጅ ማለት ነው። ያን አገር የሚያምሰው በርሃቡ ግዜ የሰፈረው ትግሬ ነው ወይስ በዚያ ያለው ሻን ቅላ? ይህ ነገር ለምንድን ነው እንዲህ እንቆቅልሽ ሆኖ የሰው ልጅ በአረመኔዎች ለአመታት ሚታረዱት? መቼ ነው አቢይ እና የኢትዮጵያ ሰራዊት ይህን ጉዳይ የሚቋጩት?

This is 2 years ago ....


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Post by Guest1 » 16 Dec 2020, 09:45

The idi@t and moron gaIIas know nothing other than replicating what tplf had done. Tplf had a plan to integrate Beneshangul so that they could have fertile land a cash cow aka GERD. GaIIas are exactly in that state of mind. This is all without mentioning the gaIIa invasion of Addis to the level that even tplf's record is beaten. My brother, when you connect the dots, you will see some line that bring yoy to the bigger picture.
from benishanqila to beni oromo :x ስድቡን ቀነስ!
ወለጋ የነበረውን ለመመለስ በዘዴ እየሰሩ ነው ከተባለ ቆይቷል። ጎጃም የነበረውን ለማስመልስ ከሆነ ወይም ሌላ አንዳንዳንድ የአማራ ክልል መሪዎች እየደጋገሙ በግልጽ የሚዝቱት ሞኝነት ነው። አያስፈልጋቸውም። ምክንያቱም መንግስት መፍትሄ እስካላመጣ ድረስ አጥፊውን ለማጥፋት በህቡእ ሽምጥ ተዋጊ አደራጅተው ቸ ብለው ማለት የማይቀር ስለሆነ crafty self defence እንበለው። በመጨረሻም በዝህ ሁኔታ ከቀጠለም ቢንሻንጉሎች መቼም አያተርፉም። ለሁሉም የተሻለ አማራጭ ህጋዊና ሰላማዊ መንገድ ብቻ ነው።

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Dec 2020, 05:08

People were given the name "ሻን ቅላ" (bzw. on Ethioian Review Forum rule itself the word is not allowed to use and the moron used deliberately the modified word "የሻ ንቅላ" to circumvent the rule), not Ethiopians, and were openly categorized clearly as they versus us and such morons will also dare to tell their audience about their caring for Ethiopia, shameful.

I don't open most of the posts of this moron but the title of this thread catched my eyes, still didn't want to reply for I didn't expect anything better from the character.

But the man in the following video reminded me of this post and I thought about putting things in context, for it is always good to inform oneself about issues in the right contexts.

The man, an elderly father of the local community, said clearly the problem is being created by the conscripts of Asamenaw Tsigie and it shows clearly now why the Amhara Kilili would like "to go there and wage war to settle the issue by itself". What a revealing instance?


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Post by Wedi » 23 Dec 2020, 07:13

አብይ አህመድ የሻን.ቅላ መሪዎችን እያባባለ አማራን አያስጨፈቸፈ ነው ያለው፡፡ አሳፍሪ ነው!! የሻን ቅላ መሪዎች ስንት አማራ ከገደሉ በኋላ ነው በወንጀል የሚጠየቁት??

This man is not an 'elderly father' as you claimed. He is Shankela zonal administrator disguised as an "elderly father"
DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 05:08

The man, an elderly father of the local community, said clearly the problem is being created by the conscripts of Asamenaw Tsigie and it shows clearly now why the Amhara Kilili would like "to go there and wage war to settle the issue by itself". What a revealing instance?
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Post by Guest1 » 23 Dec 2020, 10:46

የአማራ ልዩ ሃይል፤ ... ሁሉም ፓለቲካ ልፍለፋ ነው። ሰፋሪ ትግሬው ተባባሪ በግድያው ሊሆን ይችላል ግን ዋናው የህዝብ ብዛት እንመልከት
The ethnic groups include the Amhara (25.41%), Berta (21.69%), Gumuz, Oromo (13.55%), Shinasha (7.73%) and Agaw-Awi (4.22%). Main languages are the Berta(25.15%), Amharic (22.46%), Gumuz (20.59%), Oromo (17.69%), Shinasha (4.58%) and Awngi(4.01%).ክሩድና አሻጥረኛ የጉግል ቢሆንም። Total 1.127 million.

አማራውና አገው ቢያንስ 30% የሆነው ራሱን መከላከል ያልቻለበት ምክንያት ምንድነው? እንዳይታጠቅ፤ የታጠቀውም ትጥቅ እንዲፈታ ስለተደረገ፤ የሚጠብቀው የራሱ ፓሊስም ባለመኖሩ፤ ፌድራልም ተመልካች በመሆኑ፤ የአማራ ልዩ ሃይልም እንዳይገባ ስለተከለከለ፣

አሳመነውን የጠራው ምንም ፓለቲካ አያውቅም~!!!!!! በል የተባለውን ነው የዘረገፈው። የቤንሻንጉልና ጉሙሽ መሬቱን ባዶ አድርጎ፤ አፈናቅለው እንበል ማን እንዲሰፍርበት ነው? መሬቱን ለመቀማት ወይም ለመውረር የሚፈልግ አለ! ከድሮውም ሻንቆቹ ይህ ክልል በዝህ መልክ የተከለለበት ምክንያት ምንድነው ብለው አልጠየቁም። የሌላው ብሄር መብት ይከበርም አላሉም። የተነገራቸውን ነው የሚፈጽሙ ነበሩ። መጨረሻ ላይም ተጠቂው እነሱው ይሆናሉ።

ከመቀበጣጠሩ ወጪ የምሁራኑን ድክመት ቁልጭ አርጎ የሚያሳይ ነው። ለምንድነው የሃራርጌ ጠ/ግዛት ፈርሶ የሶማሌ ክልል የተባለው? ለምን? ይህ ያነሳሁት ስለወሎ ክልል ፕሮ በየነ ጴጥሮስ ያ ከመራራ ጋር የነበረው ስሙ ይጥፋና!! ፌድሬሽኑ ሲፈጠር ወሎ መከለል አልነበረበትም ብዬ ነበር ያለበት ቪዲዮ ከጥቂት ደቂቃዎች በፊት አይቼ ነው። ምሁራኑ የእውቀት ማነስ ብቻ ሳይሆን ክፋትም ተሸክመው ነው የኖሩት!! ዛሬ ተናድጃለሁ! እድሜውን ፈጣሪ ያሳጥረው!! ምድረ ጠቋራ ህዝብ ልበ ጥቁር!!

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Post by Tiago » 23 Dec 2020, 13:46

For over two years now, the security situation in Benishangul Gumuz region of Ethiopia, especially in Metekel, continues to be a nightmare. And the victims are ethnic Amhara and ethnic Agaw — the very people who have lived for ages as part of the people in the region. Well over 200 people are believed to have been killed since September 2020.

Apart from failure to enforce the rule of law and protect the security of citizens, the government is criticized for not calling the series of attacks for what they are — ethnic cleansing against Amhara and Agaw in the region. Prime Minister Abiy Ahmed was in Metekel, a zone of Benishangul Gumuz region, on Tuesday, where recurring massacres took place. He described the situation as mere “security problem.”

The attackers are often described as unidentified individuals or groups or mercenaries of Tigray People’s Liberation Front (TPLF). Yet, the government, both at the regional and Federal , admitted that Benishangul Gumuz regional authorities including in the security apparatus were involved in facilitating multiples of massacres over the past two and half years.
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Why the government failed to stop what now seems to be an incessant killing of ethnic Amhara and Agaw in the region.
https://borkena.com/2020/12/22/metekel- ... -ethiopia/

The amhara liyu hayle must go to so-called beni-shangul(it is part of gojam) and protect the amharas. the PM had not and still is not concerned about the lives of innocent amharas so what is the point of pleading with this shifty PM?

Is ሻ. ን ቅ ላ an offensive word?

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Re: በሻንቅላ ያለው ዎያኔ ትግሬ መቼ ነው የሚቀጣው?

Post by Guest1 » 23 Dec 2020, 14:47

የድሮ ካርታ እየተባሉ ከተለጠፉት ማንበብ የሚቻል ነገር ቢኖርም ከጊዜው ፓለቲካ ጋር የተቀያየረና ጉግል እራሱ ፓለቲከኛ የሆነበት ዘመን ሰለሆነ እውነቱን ለማግኘት ብዙ ምርመራና ታሪክም ይጠይቃል። የአሁኑ ካርታና አስፋፈር በመነሳትም ብዙ መናገር አይቻልም። ፓለቲካ አለበት። አንዴ ጉጃምና ወለጋ ሌላ ጊዜ ጊዜ ሙሉውን ወለጋ እንደገና አሶሳ በመባልም ለብቻ ከሱዳን ጋር የሚዋሰነው ነበር። ቤንሻንጉል የሚባል ክልል ግን አልነበረም። ዋና ነጥብ 1 ቤን ጉሙዝ ክልል ወደ 1ሚልየን የመሬት ስፋት 6ኛ 50 ሺ ስክሜ። የኦሮሚያ ክልል የተባለው 33 ሚልየን የሚኖርበት 254 ሺ ስክሜ ሲነጻጸር? ይህ ሰፊ መሬት አልበቃ ብሏቸው ነው ብጥብጥ ውስጥ የገቡት? የማይመስል ነገር! እየተጎዳ ያለው ህዝብ ነው። ሌላው ፓለቲካው ለመጠፋፋት! ምክንያቱ? ሁሉም ጥቁር ህዝብ ሁሉም ምድረ ሻንቆ ደግሞ! :oops: :evil:

አሁን ጥቁር ሻ... ማለት መጥፎ ሆኖ ነው delete የተደረገው!! አናዳጆች!!

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Re: በሻንቅላ ያለው ዎያኔ ትግሬ መቼ ነው የሚቀጣው?

Post by Abere » 23 Dec 2020, 15:25

በቤኒሻንጉል እየሆነ ያለው በእውነት በዐብይ አህመድ ላይ እንትፍ ነው ያሉበት። ትናትና አብሯቸው ሲመክር ውሎ በማግስቱ በመቶዎች የሚቆጠሩ አማራዎችን መግደላቸው ንቀት አንድም እነርሱ ብቻ እንግደል ያሉትን ጥያቄ መቀበል ነው። ሆድ ሲያውቅ ዶሮ ማታ ጉሙዝ በወያኔ ተቀጥሮ ነፍሰ ገዳይ በሆነበት አገር አማራ ለምን እራሱን ተከላከለ ተብሎ ለጠቅላይ ሚንስትሩ በስብሰባ መናገር እጅግ አሳፋሪ ነው። እኛ እንግደል ማለት እኮ የአማራን ህዝብ death row መንግሥት አስሮ ይዞ እንድይንፈራገጥ አድርጓል ማለት ነው። የአማራ ኃይል ገብቶ ነፍስ የማዳን በጎሥራ እንዳይፈፅም መምግስት ነፍስ አጥፊዎችን ቼቼ እያለ ነው። ይኸ ጉዳይ የ ዐብይ አህምድ እና የዐማራን ሰፊ ህዝብ ትልቅ ቅራኔ ሊያስገባ ይችላል።

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Re: በሻንቅላ ያለው ዎያኔ ትግሬ መቼ ነው የሚቀጣው?

Post by DefendTheTruth » 23 Dec 2020, 17:26

DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 05:08
People were given the name "ሻን ቅላ" (bzw. on Ethioian Review Forum rule itself the word is not allowed to use and the moron used deliberately the modified word "የሻ ንቅላ" to circumvent the rule), not Ethiopians, and were openly categorized clearly as they versus us and such morons will also dare to tell their audience about their caring for Ethiopia, shameful.

I don't open most of the posts of this moron but the title of this thread catched my eyes, still didn't want to reply for I didn't expect anything better from the character.

But the man in the following video reminded me of this post and I thought about putting things in context, for it is always good to inform oneself about issues in the right contexts.

The man, an elderly father of the local community, said clearly the problem is being created by the conscripts of Asamenaw Tsigie and it shows clearly now why the Amhara Kilili would like "to go there and wage war to settle the issue by itself". What a revealing instance?

For further contextualization of the issue, here a glimpse of possible scenario the late Jeneral Asminaw Tsige was envisaging for Ethiopia and compare that with what the elderly Gumuz man said in the video, specifically about the reference to the General's conscripts.




BTW.: I have also heard similar account from a different source of a different region, in this case related to Amhara University students in other regions.

"We have 10 million Amhara in the other region" he said, probably in reference to Oromia.

"አባቶች አቡነ ጴጥሮስ ሁኑ"።



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Re: በሻንቅላ ያለው ዎያኔ ትግሬ መቼ ነው የሚቀጣው?

Post by Dawi » 23 Dec 2020, 19:15

Defend,

Your one sided view is appalling!

አሳምነው ፅጌ?? ተሰብሳቢዎቹ እነማን ናቸዉ??

Listen to the following clip by Ermias.



DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 17:26
DefendTheTruth wrote:
23 Dec 2020, 05:08
People were given the name "ሻን ቅላ" (bzw. on Ethioian Review Forum rule itself the word is not allowed to use and the moron used deliberately the modified word "የሻ ንቅላ" to circumvent the rule), not Ethiopians, and were openly categorized clearly as they versus us and such morons will also dare to tell their audience about their caring for Ethiopia, shameful.

I don't open most of the posts of this moron but the title of this thread catched my eyes, still didn't want to reply for I didn't expect anything better from the character.

But the man in the following video reminded me of this post and I thought about putting things in context, for it is always good to inform oneself about issues in the right contexts.

The man, an elderly father of the local community, said clearly the problem is being created by the conscripts of Asamenaw Tsigie and it shows clearly now why the Amhara Kilili would like "to go there and wage war to settle the issue by itself". What a revealing instance?

For further contextualization of the issue, here a glimpse of possible scenario the late Jeneral Asminaw Tsige was envisaging for Ethiopia and compare that with what the elderly Gumuz man said in the video, specifically about the reference to the General's conscripts.




BTW.: I have also heard similar account from a different source of a different region, in this case related to Amhara University students in other regions.

"We have 10 million Amhara in the other region" he said, probably in reference to Oromia.

"አባቶች አቡነ ጴጥሮስ ሁኑ"።



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