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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Abere » 21 Oct 2020, 13:32

በእርግጥ ኤርትራ ከኢትዮጵያ በመገንጠሏ ወይም በመነጠሏ ምንም ቁጥር የሚገባ ጥቅም አታገኝም - ይጎዳታል እንጅ። እንድሁ ክፉ እልህ ምላጭ ያስውጣል ስለሆነ ብቻ የዋሃን ብዙ የወቀሳ ሃተታ ያቀርባሉ በኢትዮጵያ ላይ እንጅ። በሌላው አንፃር ደግሞ ኢትዮጵያ ኤርትራ በመነጠሏ የተጠቀመችው ነገር የለም - በተለይ የሰላም ዕጦት እንድኖር ዋና ምክንያት ነበር። ይህን ንፅፅር ከማድረግ ጋር ግን የወያኔን ሚና ማውጣት የለብንም። ምክንያቱም የመገንጠሉን እና የመለያየቱን ቁልፍ ሚና የተጫወተው ከሻዕብያ ይበልጥ ወያኔ ነበር። ለምን ምክንያቱም ወያኔ ከፍተኛ የታህታይ ስብዕና ምስቅልቅል አለው ስለዚህ ኤርትራ ከኢትዮጵያ ጋር ብትሆን አንድም ወያኔ በኢትዮጵያ ሥልጣን ይዞ ንጉሥ መሆን አይችልም ሁለተኛ የኤርትራ ህዝብ ከትግራይ ህዝብ የተለየ ባህላዊ እና ስነ-ልቦና ልዕልና አለው ብሎ ያስባል። ይህ ማለት ደግሞ የትግሬ ወያኔ እንደ እነርሱ ምጥቀት ዋርካ በሌለብት እምባጮ አድባር ይሆናል ማለት ነው - ከዚሁ ጋር በተዛማጅ አማራ ማጥፋት ለእምባጮው ወያኔ ዋና ስልት ነበር። አሁን ቁም ነገሩ ስለ አረጁት እና አረጤ ወያኔዎች እና በተለይምየ ጀብሃ ምርኮኛ ሻዕብያዎች ሳይሆን የወደፊቱ ትውልድ እና ህዝብ የሚበጀውን መንገድ መከተል ነው። ለህዝብ ጥቅም እንጅ ለሥልጣን ፈላጊዎች መመቻቻ መሆን አያስፈልግም። የወደፊቱ ትውልድ ከአረጠው ትውልድ የተሻለ ያስባል የሚል እምነት አለኝ። ለንስሃ ሞት የመረጣቸው አረጤዎች ደግሞ ቀሪውን ዘመናቸውን ህዝብን አንድ ማድረግ እንደ ጅግንነት ይቆጠራል።

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2020, 16:22

And there's point view.
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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Hawzen » 21 Oct 2020, 19:26

simbe11 wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 01:41
I personally believe that Eritrea and Ethiopia should unit we live together.
But if they are to be united, all Ethiopians should have a say. Not only Eritreans wish.
I understand the stances of some, Eritrea costs lots of blood. So did Ethiopia.
Ethiopianship is so dear for most people. You can not think of Ethiopian ID as your crappy secondhand Tshirt.
One cannot and should not take Ethiopianship off when warm and you put it on when cold.
If Eritrea is not going to join Ethiopia, Ethiopia should have free access to Asab. I mean Asab need to be under Ethiopia.
Loving Eritrean freedom and valuing your martyrs should never be used to choking another country.

The other thing is Eritreans should never be forced, directly or indirectly, to join the union.
All border crossing, except the one under TPLF, should be open for free movement of people.
The border crossings should be visa/passport free. Anyone with a valid government issued id should be allowed to move freely.
I wish to see prosper Ethiopia/Eritrea where the people love to live. I love to see a reverse migration.
The people are never enemies.
Sister eden,

Nice try.. We already knew about your stand....Let me tell you this though... Eritrea is a UN Member Sovereign Country and the people of Eritrea have already moved on. It is also time for the citizens of the least important killil Tigray and few Neftegnas aka MacDonald's BigMac lovers to move on... Everybody knows that Agame tried to invade Eritrea and our ports for over two decades using Ethiopian youth and Ethiopian resources and we know what happened to them eventually. Today the coward TPLF goons are hiding like rats and Tigray is the poorest in Ethiopia because the war affected the people of Tigray more than any other killil. God knows how many mothers are still mourning for the loss of their beloved children. When it comes to the few useless Neftegna aka the MacDonald's BigMag lovers, it looks like they forgot what happened to them in Sahel during 30 years of wars. Can you imagine, they can't even dare to take their stolen fertile lands from the least important killil Tigray aka Agames dry land??? Not only that, they can't even walk in Oromia killil proudly....In stead, they bark like mad dogs from 10,000 miles about Eritrean Red Sea. Please check Google map to see if we even have common border.

Luckily, Ethiopia is now led by a very responsible leadership who clearly understand the consequence of wars. In my opinion, the only way it works between Eritrea and Ethiopia is if and only if we respect our sovereignty and territorial integrity of both countries. We have tried wars after wars and I don't think anybody benefitted from the wars. Now, it is time to give the chance for peace and respect between the two countries. Let's make fair businesses: you use our resources and we use your resource as neighbours.. Then and only then both countries will be the winners.

Having said this, I am in no way trying to call out any people.. Because those few useless few Neftegnas aka MacDonald's BigMac lovers don't represent any society or ethnicity.. They are just bigmouth coward baboons... :lol: :mrgreen: :oops:

May God bless Eritrea and Ethiopia.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Sabur » 21 Oct 2020, 20:36


If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are the envy of the world.

But Thanks to Hasad Isayas' long held agenda which is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1990 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!
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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2020, 20:50

Hmm.. I don't know what you're smoking but the guy who said these things is Eritrean. May be you don't know Amharic or you're too scared of what he's saying.

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And let me add another video from the one and only, Tamirat Negera Feyissa, who can say whatever he want's, and even has been given permission to open a media center right in Addis. Don't you think Abiy Ahimed is playing like a soccer ball and you're scared shiitless to face the truth.


Sabur wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 20:36

If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are envy in the world.

Hasad Isayas long held agenda is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1990 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.
And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Sabur » 21 Oct 2020, 21:39


If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are the envy of the world.

But Thanks to Hasad Isayas' long held agenda which is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1991 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by TGAA » 21 Oct 2020, 21:49

Leaving aside the few Eritrean bravadoes which is the equivalent of "ሆድ ሲያውቅ ዶሮ ማታ". The fact remains that Eritrea will remain Eritrea as it should be and Ethiopia is well Ethiopia. The relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea should be one that should be based on international law. If Ethiopia passes this turbulent time and became an economically, and militarily dominant force, it can play a positive role in stabilizing the whole region.As it grows to be a gargantuan nation both economically and militarily Its economical interest would be protected because Ethiopia has choices while all the others compete to have access to the Ethiopian market. Look how much Djibouti a country of one million people was able to benefit multi-billion dollars from Ethiopia, while the Eritrean economy crumbled. So a good economical relationship benefits both but it going to benefit Eritrea more. Ethiopia should be militarily very strong to project its power. The threat doesn't come from the neighboring countries but from Arab countries that are inimical to Ethiopian interest. Any neighboring country if and when it becomes a base to Ethiopia enemies, Ethiopia should take whatever action needed to neutralize it. Any Ethiopian or Eritrean for that matter who are talking about unity between the two nations must get checked thier il ingegno (brain). Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Had the Haileselass government had taken one of the three options that were offered by UN --a guaranteed ownership of its Asseb port, leaving the rest of Eritrea to its own devices, we would have lived in a much different world today -- both Ethiopans and Eritreans.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Revelations » 21 Oct 2020, 21:51

So basically you've given up hope and cry wolf. Abiy Ahimed must have you cornered between a rock and a hard place, which makes you blame others for fear of reprisal from him. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Continue to munch on the manna from heaven which you hope will be served to you from the palms of Abiy Ahimed! :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:



Sabur wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:39

If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are the envy of the world.

But Thanks to Hasad Isayas' long held agenda which is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1991 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Dawi » 21 Oct 2020, 22:10

Sabur wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:39

If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are the envy of the world.

But Thanks to Hasad Isayas' long held agenda which is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1991 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!
Sabur is a TPLFite; that's why he singled out and ranted as much on Amhara! If we say, he was upset on Meaza Mohammed's comment, she is part Oromo. The same with Tamerat Negere; you hardly ever find a Gondere/Amhara slanting Eritreans. That's a fact! A Gondere probably complain about Shoa this & that before they say a word about Eritrea. That's at least is my experience!

So, Sabur shut the hell up! We know you!

What upsets me and others is, Eritreans want to landlock Ethiopia & keep Eritrea for themselves but, want to share the rest of Ethiopia with us.

On the other hand, Isaias is known to be blunt; so if he says we're one he means it. Don't hate him because he's blunt.

Further more, he's related to Atse Yohannes not just that, also knows, under the circumstances of the family feud, Eritrea couldn't and can't in the future end up like Singapore because Ethiopia is not Malesia like. We're too close of family and on top of that vindictive people. Ethiopians, particularly the Tigray Mafia led group won't allow Eritrea to have peace separately; they'll be breathing in their neck. Then, how are you going to develop expensive input industry like Mining/Oil? Who is going to invest in such an environment?

How long is it going to take for you people to get that through your thick heads?

Having said that, Abiy/Isaias should turn their relationship to Unity ASAP; at least bring it back to the old Federation level. That shall build initial trust among all people; calm the extremists of both sides, a necessity for growth & development.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by quindibu » 21 Oct 2020, 22:36

Revelations wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:51
So basically you've given up hope and cry wolf. Abiy Ahimed must have you cornered between a rock and a hard place, which makes you blame others for fear of reprisal from him. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Continue to munch on the manna from heaven which you hope will be served to you from the palms of Abiy Ahimed! :lol: :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

:roll: :roll:


Whenever I read your posts.........this fable comes to mind. So you know, the cutoff IQ score for an average person is 70!

A group of people was being given a tour of a mental hospital. One of the visitors had made some very insulting remarks about the patients.

After the tour the visitors were introduced to various members of staff in the canteen. The rude visitor chatted to one of the security staff, Bill, a kindly and wise ex-policeman.

"Are they all raving loonies in here then?" said the rude man.

"Only the ones who fail the test," said Bill.

"What's the test?" said the man.

"Well, we show them a bath full of water, a bucket, a jug and an egg-cup, and we ask them what's the quickest way to empty the bath," said Bill.

"Oh I see, simple - the normal ones know it's the bucket, right?"

"No actually," said Bill, "The normal ones say pull out the plug. Should I check when there's a bed free for you?"

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by tekeba » 21 Oct 2020, 23:00

It's an idea you both should consider wholeheartedly. But the following video supports his claim for all the reasons I had addressed in another thread.

Revo terewae no wonder this time your focus is Eritrea, ISU is a nightmare for your family axgames. I only repeat what ISU said "half humans". ISU will make sure will bury you underground and take my word.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by tekeba » 21 Oct 2020, 23:55

Revo, your are fabricating a story that ISU wishes Eritrea to be united with Ethiopia, you are rambling nonsense. no one buys your story. this time your assigned to focus on Eritrea as ISU is a nightmare for your family (half humans), Ugum.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Revelations » 22 Oct 2020, 00:24

We should take it further and say that for whatever reason, if the condition arise for Eritrea being in the situation as described by the Eritrean prof. Tekeste Negsh, Ethiopia shouldn't be the country that's considered to be federated/confederated with Eritrea. Countries such as Sudan and Djibouti are the more appropriate choices to avoid any animosity carried over by either side.
TGAA wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:49
Leaving aside the few Eritrean bravadoes which is the equivalent of "ሆድ ሲያውቅ ዶሮ ማታ". The fact remains that Eritrea will remain Eritrea as it should be and Ethiopia is well Ethiopia. The relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea should be one that should be based on international law. If Ethiopia passes this turbulent time and became an economically, and militarily dominant force, it can play a positive role in stabilizing the whole region.As it grows to be a gargantuan nation both economically and militarily Its economical interest would be protected because Ethiopia has choices while all the others compete to have access to the Ethiopian market. Look how much Djibouti a country of one million people was able to benefit multi-billion dollars from Ethiopia, while the Eritrean economy crumbled. So a good economical relationship benefits both but it going to benefit Eritrea more. Ethiopia should be militarily very strong to project its power. The threat doesn't come from the neighboring countries but from Arab countries that are inimical to Ethiopian interest. Any neighboring country if and when it becomes a base to Ethiopia enemies, Ethiopia should take whatever action needed to neutralize it. Any Ethiopian or Eritrean for that matter who are talking about unity between the two nations must get checked thier il ingegno (brain). Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Had the Haileselass government had taken one of the three options that were offered by UN --a guaranteed ownership of its Asseb port, leaving the rest of Eritrea to its own devices, we would have lived in a much different world today -- both Ethiopans and Eritreans.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by simbe11 » 22 Oct 2020, 00:42

If the people chose to federate with another country, it's up to them.
But you have raised a question that's not new. This question has been raised by ELF(Jebha).
Which is Islamization of Eritrea, the horn in general, simply put.
Although I am not sure why Eritrea would consider a federation with Djibouti.
Djibouti has little to offer other than it's strategic position in the red sea/Gulf of Aden.
Revelations wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 07:51
How about Eritrea joining Sudan or Djibouti? It's a better solution for them and less hassle for Ethiopia.
simbe11 wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 01:41
I personally believe that Eritrea and Ethiopia should unit we live together.
But if they are to be united, all Ethiopians should have a say. Not only Eritreans wish.
I understand the stances of some, Eritrea costs lots of blood. So did Ethiopia.
Ethiopianship is so dear for most people. You can not think of Ethiopian ID as your crappy secondhand Tshirt.
One cannot and should not take Ethiopianship off when warm and you put it on when cold.
If Eritrea is not going to join Ethiopia, Ethiopia should have free access to Asab. I mean Asab need to be under Ethiopia.
Loving Eritrean freedom and valuing your martyrs should never be used to choking another country.
The other thing is Eritreans should never be forced, directly or indirectly, to join the union.
All border crossing, except the one under TPLF, should be open for free movement of people.
The border crossings should be visa/passport free. Anyone with a valid government issued id should be allowed to move freely.
I wish to see prosper Ethiopia/Eritrea where the people love to live. I love to see a reverse migration.
The people are never enemies.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by simbe11 » 22 Oct 2020, 00:55

Where there is no fire you don't see smoke.
The legit question for access to sea is lingering for a reason.
If we are to live in peace, there should be no lingering animosity between the two countries.
But not Eritrea is trying to hold Ethiopia hostage.
The question of Asab was never answered. If you think you have the final say, you are wrong.
There is millions of people who feel bad about it.
During Eritrean referendum, there was a winner/looser mentality. which allows Shabia to claim whatever they desire.
TPLF was a [deleted] of Shabia who are willing to give not only the requested but also some more.
This unanswered grievance should be considered.

If you think I hate Eritrea, I can tell you this "YOU ARE WRONG".
I don't like Shabia not Eritrea. If the people think we are better separated, I have no problem with that.

Hawzen wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 19:26
simbe11 wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 01:41
I personally believe that Eritrea and Ethiopia should unit we live together.
But if they are to be united, all Ethiopians should have a say. Not only Eritreans wish.
I understand the stances of some, Eritrea costs lots of blood. So did Ethiopia.
Ethiopianship is so dear for most people. You can not think of Ethiopian ID as your crappy secondhand Tshirt.
One cannot and should not take Ethiopianship off when warm and you put it on when cold.
If Eritrea is not going to join Ethiopia, Ethiopia should have free access to Asab. I mean Asab need to be under Ethiopia.
Loving Eritrean freedom and valuing your martyrs should never be used to choking another country.

The other thing is Eritreans should never be forced, directly or indirectly, to join the union.
All border crossing, except the one under TPLF, should be open for free movement of people.
The border crossings should be visa/passport free. Anyone with a valid government issued id should be allowed to move freely.
I wish to see prosper Ethiopia/Eritrea where the people love to live. I love to see a reverse migration.
The people are never enemies.
Sister eden,

Nice try.. We already knew about your stand....Let me tell you this though... Eritrea is a UN Member Sovereign Country and the people of Eritrea have already moved on. It is also time for the citizens of the least important killil Tigray and few Neftegnas aka MacDonald's BigMac lovers to move on... Everybody knows that Agame tried to invade Eritrea and our ports for over two decades using Ethiopian youth and Ethiopian resources and we know what happened to them eventually. Today the coward TPLF goons are hiding like rats and Tigray is the poorest in Ethiopia because the war affected the people of Tigray more than any other killil. God knows how many mothers are still mourning for the loss of their beloved children. When it comes to the few useless Neftegna aka the MacDonald's BigMag lovers, it looks like they forgot what happened to them in Sahel during 30 years of wars. Can you imagine, they can't even dare to take their stolen fertile lands from the least important killil Tigray aka Agames dry land??? Not only that, they can't even walk in Oromia killil proudly....In stead, they bark like mad dogs from 10,000 miles about Eritrean Red Sea. Please check Google map to see if we even have common border.

Luckily, Ethiopia is now led by a very responsible leadership who clearly understand the consequence of wars. In my opinion, the only way it works between Eritrea and Ethiopia is if and only if we respect our sovereignty and territorial integrity of both countries. We have tried wars after wars and I don't think anybody benefitted from the wars. Now, it is time to give the chance for peace and respect between the two countries. Let's make fair businesses: you use our resources and we use your resource as neighbours.. Then and only then both countries will be the winners.

Having said this, I am in no way trying to call out any people.. Because those few useless few Neftegnas aka MacDonald's BigMac lovers don't represent any society or ethnicity.. They are just bigmouth coward baboons... :lol: :mrgreen: :oops:

May God bless Eritrea and Ethiopia.

Dedebit is always dedeb
R.I.P Abay Tigray and TPLF

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by TGAA » 22 Oct 2020, 01:02

Revelations wrote:
22 Oct 2020, 00:24
We should take it further and say that for whatever reason, if the condition arise for Eritrea being in the situation as described by the Eritrean prof. Tekeste Negsh, Ethiopia shouldn't be the country that's considered to be federated/confederated with Eritrea. Countries such as Sudan and Djibouti are the more appropriate choices to avoid any animosity carried over by either side.
TGAA wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:49
Leaving aside the few Eritrean bravadoes which is the equivalent of "ሆድ ሲያውቅ ዶሮ ማታ". The fact remains that Eritrea will remain Eritrea as it should be and Ethiopia is well Ethiopia. The relationship between Ethiopia and Eritrea should be one that should be based on international law. If Ethiopia passes this turbulent time and became an economically, and militarily dominant force, it can play a positive role in stabilizing the whole region.As it grows to be a gargantuan nation both economically and militarily Its economical interest would be protected because Ethiopia has choices while all the others compete to have access to the Ethiopian market. Look how much Djibouti a country of one million people was able to benefit multi-billion dollars from Ethiopia, while the Eritrean economy crumbled. So a good economical relationship benefits both but it going to benefit Eritrea more. Ethiopia should be militarily very strong to project its power. The threat doesn't come from the neighboring countries but from Arab countries that are inimical to Ethiopian interest. Any neighboring country if and when it becomes a base to Ethiopia enemies, Ethiopia should take whatever action needed to neutralize it. Any Ethiopian or Eritrean for that matter who are talking about unity between the two nations must get checked thier il ingegno (brain). Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Had the Haileselass government had taken one of the three options that were offered by UN --a guaranteed ownership of its Asseb port, leaving the rest of Eritrea to its own devices, we would have lived in a much different world today -- both Ethiopans and Eritreans.
I have to make one qualification though , Ethiopia has to make sure that Eritrea's security is protected . And if and when the Eritrean security is threated by exteranl forces Ethiopia should stand with the brotherly country of Eritrea. Although colonialsm had did us in to develp two kinds set of mind set, historically we were one people. And as we know for fact enemies of Eritrea never friends of Ethiopia . with that qualification all the other statement still stands.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Fed_Up » 22 Oct 2020, 01:06

አብዬ

መጀመሪያ መወያየት ካለብህ ከዚህ ጀምር ... በደረጃ ላስቀምጠው

1- አይደለም ሌላ ልትጨምር ... ያሉትን ክልሎች እንኳን አብዛኛዎች ኢትዬጵያ ስር መሆን ፈጽሞ አይፈልጉም .. አገሪቱ ከሶማሊያ ክልል ጫፍ እስከ ትግራይ ጫፍ ብጥቅጥቋ ለመውጣት የቀራት ትንቅንቅ ውስጥ ነው ያለችው:: ትኩረህ እዛ ቢሆንስ?

2- በቆንጨራ መቆራረጥ በቀስት መቧደስ ላይ ነው ያላችሁት .. አለም እሱን ካለፈ 500 አመት በላይ ሆኗል

3- እስኪ ሶስቴ ለመመገብ ሞክር ...ጠኔ ቤት ሰርቶ እሚርመሰመባት ምድር ይዞ ቀረርቶ ቢቆይስ?

4- ኢትዬጵያን ለመበጣጠቅ እጂግ ቀላል ነው.. አላርፍ ያአለች ጣት ትቆራረጣለች የሚለውን ቢህል አትርሳ:: ከጠላቶችሁ ቀንደኛው እንሂድና እንዋጋ የሚልህ ነው

5- ማንም ዝፍዝፍ ያወራውን ይዝህ አትንዘርዘር:: ስንቱን እንዳልሰማን ... እንኳን እቺን::

6- ኢትዬጵያ ስታድግ.. በሚሊተሪ ስትጠነክር ብላ ብላ ብላ... እንዴ ማሰቢይ ባይሰለብ ይህን ባላልክ.. ለመሆኑ የማቸቴ (ቆንጨራ) የሚካነትባት, ባዶ እግር የበዛባት, ጠኔ ስር የሰደደባት, በልመና የምትኖር, 61% ያልተማረ ህዝብ ያላት, ሶስቴ መመገብ ብርቋ, ኢትዬጵያ አድጋ ስትመነደግ .. ሌላው አገር (ለምሳሌ ኤርትራ) ቁማ የምትጠብቅ ትመስላለች እንዴ? This is why IQ matters folks.

7- ለምን ከ1,000,000 ህዝብ በታች ያላትና እጂግ ደካማዋ ግን 95% ወደቧ የምትጠቀምቧት ጂቡቲ ለመቀማት አትቀልም? ወይስ ፍራቻ ነው ፍራንስን? ኣሃ!

9- ይልቅስ ንፁሁ ውሃ ህዝባችሁን አጠጡ.. ዛፍ ትከሉ ነገር ከምትከል :: ኤርትራን ባትነካኩ ጥሩ ነው - ለጤንነታችሁ::ሰነፍ ሁላ::

10- እያላችሁት ያለው እኮ የሌላውን ሰው ንብረት እንስረቅ ምክኒያቱም እኛ ብዛት አለን ያስፈልግናል:: ይህ አባባል ከቀጠለ ወይም እማይሻሻል ከሆነ እንበጣጥሳችሁ እና .. ትልቅ አገር ነን የሚለውን የንፍጣሞች ቀረርቶ ማስቀረት ይቻላል::


ይልቅስ እቺ ከ100 አመት በሆላ የምትገኝ አንድዬ እድል ተጠቀሙባት.. አብይ ጥሩ መሪ ይመስለኛል.. ሰላም ፈላጊ .. እድገ ፈላጊ .. አገሩን ማበልጸግ የሚፈልግ::

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by simbe11 » 22 Oct 2020, 01:27

Fed-up,
Have you heard of the story about the elephant and the rat?
That's exactly what you reminded me. Eritreans won the war bla bla bla ......
All the above stated were tried against Ethiopia but all failed.

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Re: "የኤርትራ ኢኮኖሚ በጣም ተዳክሟል። የኤርትራ የሰው ኃይል በጣም ተዳክሟል። እና ኤርትራ ባለችበት ሁኔታ አሁን ከኢትዮጵያ ተለይታ የምታገኘው ጥቅም የለም::" ~ [VOA]

Post by Sabur » 22 Oct 2020, 04:53


Dawi = Chenawi ግ'ማታም ጨናዊ :

I will make it very palatable for you, ግ'ማታም Dawi.

I do not give a rat's ȧss about anybody south of Mereb River except for the Ethiopian Somali who do not salivate day in and day out about the Red Sea and the Eritrean Ports.

So Dawi wedi - Adgi: Mind your Fụcking amhara survival business for relevance which is eroding every passing day.
The pay back issues the fụcking amhara are facing with the filthy TPLF, the Oromos, the Somali, and the southern people; or the pay back issues the fụcking TPLF are facing with the Amharas, the Oromos, the Somali, and the southern people are your fụcking problems, not Eritrea's.

Eritrea is Gone and there is nothing you can do about it except to hang yourself.

Eritreans need No One to develop Eritrea. Eritrea needs only Eritreans. We only need US !!

Capito Dawi ግ'ማታም ጨናዊ ርእሲ ሓምሓም !!

Dawi wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 22:10
Sabur wrote:
21 Oct 2020, 21:39

If it was not for Hasad Isayas open declaration "that the Eritrean and Ethiopian people are One People, and any one who thinks otherwise does not know History", the coward amharas would not mince such words.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of driving out Eritrean Professionals, and Eritrea's dynamic youth, Eritrea would not be at the stage that is now.

If it was not for Hasad Isayas systematic plan of killing and jailing Eritreans with Leadership Qualities, Eritrea would be marching along side of UAE, Qatar,... not looking back for economical relations with medieval Ethiopia after 30 years of Independence.
Eritrea's Human resources, Natural resources and location are the envy of the world.

But Thanks to Hasad Isayas' long held agenda which is "Not to see an Independent Unified Eritrea that is Economically and Politically Strong".

The Fụcking Hasad Isayas deep in his heart welcomed the economical sanction for two purposes. One is to destroy the Eritrean Economy and the Eritrean spirit, and the second one is to use it an excuse to blame others and deceive the Eritrean People.

Remember Hasad Isayas and Hasad Meles Chenawi were bedfellows from 1991 to 1998.

Being all that may, the Coward Amharas should know that the Eritrean Spirit, the Eritrean Resource is still in its place to propel Eritrea forward fast.And for this to happen Hasad Agame Isayas the Enemy of Eritrea and the Eritrean People has to go.

Now Let the usual errand Bıtches of Hasad Isayas start Bıthing .

በጻብጽ ከዛባት ዋሒድ !!
Sabur is a TPLFite; that's why he singled out and ranted as much on Amhara! If we say, he was upset on Meaza Mohammed's comment, she is part Oromo. The same with Tamerat Negere; you hardly ever find a Gondere/Amhara slanting Eritreans. That's a fact! A Gondere probably complain about Shoa this & that before they say a word about Eritrea. That's at least is my experience!

So, Sabur shut the hell up! We know you!

What upsets me and others is, Eritreans want to landlock Ethiopia & keep Eritrea for themselves but, want to share the rest of Ethiopia with us.

On the other hand, Isaias is known to be blunt; so if he says we're one he means it. Don't hate him because he's blunt.

Further more, he's related to Atse Yohannes not just that, also knows, under the circumstances of the family feud, Eritrea couldn't and can't in the future end up like Singapore because Ethiopia is not Malesia like. We're too close of family and on top of that vindictive people. Ethiopians, particularly the Tigray Mafia led group won't allow Eritrea to have peace separately; they'll be breathing in their neck. Then, how are you going to develop expensive input industry like Mining/Oil? Who is going to invest in such an environment?

How long is it going to take for you people to get that through your thick heads?

Having said that, Abiy/Isaias should turn their relationship to Unity ASAP; at least bring it back to the old Federation level. That shall build initial trust among all people; calm the extremists of both sides, a necessity for growth & development.

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