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Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Oct 2020, 09:26

If i was the prime minster of Ethiopia, i would have solved all freaking self inflicted problems. The first order of business is let the Agame-go. Let them execute article 39 and let them go all the way to hell. There is nothing they bring to the table except theft, corruption, ignorance and greed. Ethiopia survived even without Eritrea. We all know what Eritreans bring to the table and the two great ports gone and still Ethiopia manged to survive. My question is who the hell are the Tigrayans to hold Ethiopia hostage? Abiy Ahmed; let the chigaramoch go. I ask you what are the Tigryans bring to Ethiopia except misery and theft? I will like to hear it. let the ignorant people go. they are nothing but misery. let them go!!!!

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by nizzy » 08 Oct 2020, 11:58

It doesn't seem to me like Tigrayans want to leave Ethiopia. They're being used as human shields by the TPLF in order to escape justice. This is why the TPLF hasn't declared independence yet, they know Tigray cannot survive without Ethiopia.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Oct 2020, 12:03

nizzy wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 11:58
It doesn't seem to me like Tigrayans want to leave Ethiopia. They're being used as human shields by the TPLF in order to escape justice. This is why the TPLF hasn't declared independence yet, they know Tigray cannot survive without Ethiopia.
You are right but Ethiopia needs what is best for the rest of Ethiopians. It is not fair because of the Tigryans the whole Ethiopia should suffer. I am for real, when does it ends? The Tigryans wants to lead Ethiopia and loot Ethiopia to the bone. Let them go. they are noting sub-human.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Wedi » 08 Oct 2020, 12:46

Short but precise! Well done!!
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 09:26
If i was the prime minster of Ethiopia, i would have solved all freaking self inflicted problems. The first order of business is let the Agame-go. Let them execute article 39 and let them go all the way to hell. There is nothing they bring to the table except theft, corruption, ignorance and greed. Ethiopia survived even without Eritrea. We all know what Eritreans bring to the table and the two great ports gone and still Ethiopia manged to survive. My question is who the hell are the Tigrayans to hold Ethiopia hostage? Abiy Ahmed; let the chigaramoch go. I ask you what are the Tigryans bring to Ethiopia except misery and theft? I will like to hear it. let the ignorant people go. they are nothing but misery. let them go!!!!

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Abere » 08 Oct 2020, 13:05

I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Oct 2020, 13:13

Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:05
I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.
So you are saying that a person should keep his leg despite suffering from gangrene? I am tell you, cut the lag and save the rest of the body. They are impossible to work with.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by nizzy » 08 Oct 2020, 13:39

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 12:03
nizzy wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 11:58
It doesn't seem to me like Tigrayans want to leave Ethiopia. They're being used as human shields by the TPLF in order to escape justice. This is why the TPLF hasn't declared independence yet, they know Tigray cannot survive without Ethiopia.
You are right but Ethiopia needs what is best for the rest of Ethiopians. It is not fair because of the Tigryans the whole Ethiopia should suffer. I am for real, when does it ends? The Tigryans wants to lead Ethiopia and loot Ethiopia to the bone. Let them go. they are noting sub-human.
Ethiopia's problem and the regions problem isn't necessarily Tigrayans it is the TPLF. They've been a problem for Eritrea, Sudan, and Somalia. All their crimes especially those crimes they committed in the name of Ethiopia must be exposed to a wider audience and Tigrayans need to be seen as a people under the oppression of the TPLF. In that light they are your brothers as Ethiopians. Don't pay attention to the TPLF's constant barking they aren't in a position to do anything, the steps PMAA is taking is going to end the TPLF as an entity for good.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Abere » 08 Oct 2020, 13:48

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:13
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:05
I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.
So you are saying that a person should keep his leg despite suffering from gangrene? I am tell you, cut the lag and save the rest of the body. They are impossible to work with.

What I am saying is identifying the disease and dead cells but save the organ. We know woyane is their infecting agent and how to sterilize the province from this disease is important. Even if Ethiopia force them to separate, they will not. It is like one can't keep his personals hygiene if the surrounding environment is unhygienic. We also know (I would say 99.9%) of our population is illiterate ( even the so called educated ones are undereducated ) to force them vote on referendum is both immoral and crime. Only thugs use this independence, referendum, colonized by Ethiopia blah blah blah stuff just on the back of illiterates, destitute, sick and poor farmers. I would say no Ethiopian is more or less Ethiopian than Tigres. Let's not also forget the good Tigres even in our time ( eg. Ato Gebremedhin Araya). The problem with the Tigres now is they overdosed and drunk with this woyane or tegedalay stuff they have stirp their self off from this hamulating downward. I am not gonna say they have to support Abiy, because Abiy also betrayed them when letting woyane retreat to Mekele. If Ethiopia has a true tribal mind and instinct free mind leader woyane would have been history in the garbage and tribal federation would have been ripped apart. Destroy tribal federation then you will see a healthy country.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Oct 2020, 14:18

Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:48
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:13
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:05
I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.
So you are saying that a person should keep his leg despite suffering from gangrene? I am tell you, cut the lag and save the rest of the body. They are impossible to work with.

What I am saying is identifying the disease and dead cells but save the organ. We know woyane is their infecting agent and how to sterilize the province from this disease is important. Even if Ethiopia force them to separate, they will not. It is like one can't keep his personals hygiene if the surrounding environment is unhygienic. We also know (I would say 99.9%) of our population is illiterate ( even the so called educated ones are undereducated ) to force them vote on referendum is both immoral and crime. Only thugs use this independence, referendum, colonized by Ethiopia blah blah blah stuff just on the back of illiterates, destitute, sick and poor farmers. I would say no Ethiopian is more or less Ethiopian than Tigres. Let's not also forget the good Tigres even in our time ( eg. Ato Gebremedhin Araya). The problem with the Tigres now is they overdosed and drunk with this woyane or tegedalay stuff they have stirp their self off from this hamulating downward. I am not gonna say they have to support Abiy, because Abiy also betrayed them when letting woyane retreat to Mekele. If Ethiopia has a true tribal mind and instinct free mind leader woyane would have been history in the garbage and tribal federation would have been ripped apart. Destroy tribal federation then you will see a healthy country.
I agree i shouldn't be generalization the whole people but the people are the once who are cheering them and encouraging the TPLF pundits. TPLF's plan is simple: ethir lead and loot Ethiopia like they have done for the last 27 years or else; Ethiopia will be distingrated, that is it. in this case what would you do?

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Abere » 08 Oct 2020, 15:03

ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 14:18
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:48
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:13
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:05
I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.
So you are saying that a person should keep his leg despite suffering from gangrene? I am tell you, cut the lag and save the rest of the body. They are impossible to work with.

What I am saying is identifying the disease and dead cells but save the organ. We know woyane is their infecting agent and how to sterilize the province from this disease is important. Even if Ethiopia force them to separate, they will not. It is like one can't keep his personals hygiene if the surrounding environment is unhygienic. We also know (I would say 99.9%) of our population is illiterate ( even the so called educated ones are undereducated ) to force them vote on referendum is both immoral and crime. Only thugs use this independence, referendum, colonized by Ethiopia blah blah blah stuff just on the back of illiterates, destitute, sick and poor farmers. I would say no Ethiopian is more or less Ethiopian than Tigres. Let's not also forget the good Tigres even in our time ( eg. Ato Gebremedhin Araya). The problem with the Tigres now is they overdosed and drunk with this woyane or tegedalay stuff they have stirp their self off from this hamulating downward. I am not gonna say they have to support Abiy, because Abiy also betrayed them when letting woyane retreat to Mekele. If Ethiopia has a true tribal mind and instinct free mind leader woyane would have been history in the garbage and tribal federation would have been ripped apart. Destroy tribal federation then you will see a healthy country.
I agree i shouldn't be generalization the whole people but the people are the once who are cheering them and encouraging the TPLF pundits. TPLF's plan is simple: ethir lead and loot Ethiopia like they have done for the last 27 years or else; Ethiopia will be distingrated, that is it. in this case what would you do?
---- True, there are substantial number of people that cheered and still are cheering the TPLF bandit. Like I said, most are uninformed ,illiterate ( or have no option to live in their homesteaded) and others power/money hungry segments. Because of the accumulated crime, fiction of hate preach of TPLF has reached no point of return, TPLF mistakably fell flat without a single shot. TPLF will never ever back to power and I an sure the word woyane will be a derogatory name every Tigre avoids to be associated with it or called by it.

---- Will Ethiopia disintegrate? No, not at all. How do we measure disintegration? If disintegration means mess, chaos, anarchy then Ethiopia has been disintegrated for the last 30 &+ years. Sadly, the country is finding itself in the present situation like it has been in the past few decades and this wastes the precious time of the generation not much about the future integrity of Ethiopia. Like it or not Ethiopia is an objective reality that will outlive all the conspiracies' and assaults.

---- To avoid unnecessary crisis citizens of the country have to come together not as a tribe but as citizen of one Nation, ETHIOPIA. Delegitimize any current tribal federation, and call to suspend the current government of Ethiopia and replace it with a consensus leadership (not ethnically affiliated) and give the country a break to work on the future political landscape, and it ruling constitutions. I would dismiss all the old political thugs all.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Noble Amhara » 08 Oct 2020, 15:08

Abere

Abiy will not dismantle ethnic federalism there is no need of unity in Ethiopia what has Hararghe and Arsi have to do with Gondar? there is no need to care for Ethiopia when its a messy failed state Filled with Beasts that’s killing Amhara people. This Ethiopia is name only the ethnic terrorism won’t stop so amara must organize as AMARA like asaminew and defend its own interests and existence. You Ethiopianists are always pushing amara back into 0 all failed negotiations about Ethiopia which has done nothing for our ppl other then get us persecuted u guys only care About Addis but leave Amhara region to extreme poverty always talking about the Poverty country When Tigray or Oromo wants to kill Amharas there is no rights for amharas because of “Ethiopianwit” amharas r made systemless and Defenseless and the gala and agame get to steal and abuse our ppl and land “Ethiopianwit” is fake drop it for the betterness of Amhara

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 08 Oct 2020, 15:45

Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 15:03
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 14:18
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:48
ZEMEN wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:13
Abere wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 13:05
I differ on this - I don think this will be a definite solution. Let's say, proper Ethiopia irresponsibly let Tigray province wander in the woods (in the name of independence from Ethiopia), they still will be a problem, just like Eritrea has been , because they can't. Can a bouquet of flower able to last more than a week since its roots are cut from the source of its nutrition. In my opinion, the disease and problem of Ethiopia are those older people may be 65 or above. The country has to revive its old value or need a cultural revolution that over doze this tribal infection. If the Tigres think they are colonized by Ethiopia like what the Shabians used to say - I would be dying in laughter. I hope most would not say that because it is an insult to them.
So you are saying that a person should keep his leg despite suffering from gangrene? I am tell you, cut the lag and save the rest of the body. They are impossible to work with.

What I am saying is identifying the disease and dead cells but save the organ. We know woyane is their infecting agent and how to sterilize the province from this disease is important. Even if Ethiopia force them to separate, they will not. It is like one can't keep his personals hygiene if the surrounding environment is unhygienic. We also know (I would say 99.9%) of our population is illiterate ( even the so called educated ones are undereducated ) to force them vote on referendum is both immoral and crime. Only thugs use this independence, referendum, colonized by Ethiopia blah blah blah stuff just on the back of illiterates, destitute, sick and poor farmers. I would say no Ethiopian is more or less Ethiopian than Tigres. Let's not also forget the good Tigres even in our time ( eg. Ato Gebremedhin Araya). The problem with the Tigres now is they overdosed and drunk with this woyane or tegedalay stuff they have stirp their self off from this hamulating downward. I am not gonna say they have to support Abiy, because Abiy also betrayed them when letting woyane retreat to Mekele. If Ethiopia has a true tribal mind and instinct free mind leader woyane would have been history in the garbage and tribal federation would have been ripped apart. Destroy tribal federation then you will see a healthy country.
I agree i shouldn't be generalization the whole people but the people are the once who are cheering them and encouraging the TPLF pundits. TPLF's plan is simple: ethir lead and loot Ethiopia like they have done for the last 27 years or else; Ethiopia will be distingrated, that is it. in this case what would you do?
---- True, there are substantial number of people that cheered and still are cheering the TPLF bandit. Like I said, most are uninformed ,illiterate ( or have no option to live in their homesteaded) and others power/money hungry segments. Because of the accumulated crime, fiction of hate preach of TPLF has reached no point of return, TPLF mistakably fell flat without a single shot. TPLF will never ever back to power and I an sure the word woyane will be a derogatory name every Tigre avoids to be associated with it or called by it.

---- Will Ethiopia disintegrate? No, not at all. How do we measure disintegration? If disintegration means mess, chaos, anarchy then Ethiopia has been disintegrated for the last 30 &+ years. Sadly, the country is finding itself in the present situation like it has been in the past few decades and this wastes the precious time of the generation not much about the future integrity of Ethiopia. Like it or not Ethiopia is an objective reality that will outlive all the conspiracies' and assaults.

---- To avoid unnecessary crisis citizens of the country have to come together not as a tribe but as citizen of one Nation, ETHIOPIA. Delegitimize any current tribal federation, and call to suspend the current government of Ethiopia and replace it with a consensus leadership (not ethnically affiliated) and give the country a break to work on the future political landscape, and it ruling constitutions. I would dismiss all the old political thugs all.
There is one thing i am sure of; that is TPLF will never leave their power peacefully and they will never let the people of Tigray go free. Now the truth is this and you witnessing what TPLF is doing in the country. there fore; a country can't exist the way Ethiopia is going. I will give you three solution and you must pick one run with it, or else, it is a matter time disorder to ensue and the rest is history.
Option number one. Let them go. offer them article 39 and be done with.
option number two. use force, remove the TPLF top gangs by surgical attack.
Option number three. label and categorize the TPLF gangs in terrorist list.
If not, there can not be two governments in one country. it doesn't work that way.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 09 Oct 2020, 15:44

Noble Amhara wrote:
08 Oct 2020, 15:08
Abere

Abiy will not dismantle ethnic federalism there is no need of unity in Ethiopia what has Hararghe and Arsi have to do with Gondar? there is no need to care for Ethiopia when its a messy failed state Filled with Beasts that’s killing Amhara people. This Ethiopia is name only the ethnic terrorism won’t stop so amara must organize as AMARA like asaminew and defend its own interests and existence. You Ethiopianists are always pushing amara back into 0 all failed negotiations about Ethiopia which has done nothing for our ppl other then get us persecuted u guys only care About Addis but leave Amhara region to extreme poverty always talking about the Poverty country When Tigray or Oromo wants to kill Amharas there is no rights for amharas because of “Ethiopianwit” amharas r made systemless and Defenseless and the gala and agame get to steal and abuse our ppl and land “Ethiopianwit” is fake drop it for the betterness of Amhara
WOW; Amara is screwed to no end. so what is the solution?

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Oct 2020, 15:50

The solution is Amhara Nationalism and Oneness and the end of cancer messy ethiopianism. Amhara greatest enemy is Temesgn tiruneh aka ADIPa they are non amharas donkeys that destroy the great people of Amhara for decades. Amhara Nationalists should arrest any Bilitignas and form a new Amhara Nationalist Government in Bahir Dar, amharas from all of Ethiopia should be gathered back to Amhara kilil.

ANDM/PP/former weyane is the reason why Amharas in Raya and welkait can’t gain there freedom. ANDM is more closer to Jawar and Weyane then to Amhara people. So a new Amhara revolution must rise to overthrow and continue the work of Bg Asaminew Tsige

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 09 Oct 2020, 16:03

Noble Amhara wrote:
09 Oct 2020, 15:50
The solution is Amhara Nationalism and Oneness and the end of cancer messy ethiopianism. Amhara greatest enemy is Temesgn tiruneh aka ADIPa they are non amharas donkeys that destroy the great people of Amhara for decades. Amhara Nationalists should arrest any Bilitignas and form a new Amhara Nationalist Government in Bahir Dar, amharas from all of Ethiopia should be gathered back to Amhara kilil.

ANDM/PP/former weyane is the reason why Amharas in Raya and welkait can’t gain there freedom. ANDM is more closer to Jawar and Weyane then to Amhara people. So a new Amhara revolution must rise to overthrow and continue the work of Bg Asaminew Tsige
General Asaminew Tsige told us and no heard him. Now the whole Amara is paying the price. Amara needs anther Wend Asamnew Tsige.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Oct 2020, 16:25

I was the greatest supporter of Asaminew we heard him very well. The day he died I knew it was the satanic abiy ahmed and his Oromo regime that did it against Amhara. The PP regime was also supporting jawar in 2019 the conductor was Berhanu Jula.

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 09 Oct 2020, 16:42

Noble Amhara wrote:
09 Oct 2020, 16:25
I was the greatest supporter of Asaminew we heard him very well. The day he died I knew it was the satanic abiy ahmed and his Oromo regime that did it against Amhara. The PP regime was also supporting jawar in 2019 the conductor was Berhanu Jula.
Do your really believe that? I used to believe what you are saying but once Getachew Reda of the weyane said it, i change my mind. Because TPLF are nothing but lairs. I have never heard any truth from them. So, i don't know what to tell you. so, who do you think killed SaAre and his friend?

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Noble Amhara » 09 Oct 2020, 16:47

Sorry Im only involved with Amhara people I don’t discuss tigrinya

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by ZEMEN » 09 Oct 2020, 16:52

Noble Amhara wrote:
09 Oct 2020, 16:47
Sorry Im only involved with Amhara people I don’t discuss tigrinya
You don't understand what i have said. i used to beleive in the same thing you beleive that Abiy killed Asaminew but when the TPLF said Abiy killed Asaminew, i change my mind because the weyane never tell the truth. Now how is this agazi or tigrigna thing?

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Re: Only if i was prime minster of Ethiopia.

Post by Abere » 09 Oct 2020, 17:09

It is abundantly clear the one and only one Target of the Tigre woyane has been Amhara; and the prime horrendous suffering has been paid by the Amhara people. Amhara never been in any of TPLF's/OLF constitution , no Amhara recognized TPLF's tribal federation , no Amhara gave legitimacy to TPLF. That same situation is still happening under Abiy -OLF. Unless the pain of Amhara is shared by all and solved will never ever be peace upon Ethiopia. This is obvious. All Asaminew Tsige mentioned about the 16th century Geda's invasion' was recently heard from the mouth of top OLF, Shimelis Abdissa.

But how can Amhara turn this around and help other oppressed and harassed Ethiopians especially those in the South and Addis Ababa? Amhara has to find way to delegitimize and boycott ብአዴን. As long as ብአዴን is there Amhara can't get justice. This has to be a priority, the rest will happen next. The other very important point is, not everyone voicing about the sufferings of Amhara are sincere and patriot. There are mercenaries , lethal spies and seasonal opportunities. Who would have expected Ethiopians in the diaspora including Addis Ababians, kept quite sacrificing Eskinder Nega to the monster OLF thug, Abiy Ahmed. The DC cab drivers sold him down the river for a piece of land in Addis Ababa. These same cab drivers that traded Eskindir for land, have been cheering and dancing supporting Abiy Monster while the bloods of many beheaded Amhara and Gurage by OLF thug in Arusi is wailing.

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