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DefendTheTruth
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by DefendTheTruth » 08 Sep 2020, 12:12
One of the pillars of a democratic administration is that the everybody has got the right to be heard by those in charge of administrating their affairs or those in power. The opportunity to be heard.
The Addis Ababans also talk about their democratic rights without even being aware of a democracy.
Hope someone will try to translate the content of this video and share it with the broader audience, it will broadens the understanding of what a democracy is.
The "simple" or "layman" on the street talking to power infront of their own eyes, using their democratic rights.
This is Gada and this gathering is the ultimate source of power (Gumii Sabaa or General Assembly) on the affairs of the people on the ground.
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by DefendTheTruth » 08 Sep 2020, 12:25
Here is a decentralization endeavor in practice , there would be no more periphery vs. center dichotomy and it being a cause of friction between the two sections, that has also been a challenge in the effort of state or nation building in Ethiopia for many decades or centuries.
Give them all the same opportunity and allow them to use their potential to the full level.
Nagayaa Dansaa dha!
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Dawi
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by Dawi » 08 Sep 2020, 12:45
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 12:12
This is Gada and this gathering is the ultimate source of power (Gumii Sabaa or General Assembly) on the affairs of the people on the ground.
Defend,
What "Essence of Democracy?"
As far as I am concerned such thinking of "gada" has been debunked beyond a reasonable doubt.
Let us keep "gada" in cultural studies for graduate students. Frankly we don't have time to play games anymore.
If you don't agree let us set up a debate in the matter by including international observers as the scholars in the subject matter demand. Settle it once and for all!
We don't need to experiment on our lives anymore.
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DefendTheTruth
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by DefendTheTruth » 08 Sep 2020, 12:54
we (over) centralized Addis Ababa (Finfinne) to the maximum and that is becoming a stumbling block to our effort of making a progress.
Obbo Shimales Abdissa was harshly criticized for commenting or meant to hint that his party is planning to decentralise the development efforts of the country in the future and then there will be nothing that is to be fought on as Addis Ababa afterwards.
This is in fact a brilliant proposal of a solution for overcoming a big challenge for the country at the moment. If Addis Ababa comes to everybody's doorstep then why do people need to go to Addis Ababa and fight each other over that over suffocated place? It is becoming a cusrse to our progress and we need to avoid that.
Bring Addis Ababa to everybody's doorstep and then there will not be anybody who is going to come to Addis Ababa and over suffocate it.
Decentralizing Ethiopia is the brilliant solution for the current fight over Addis Ababa. Obbo Shimalis is right over that proposal and kudos to him for that.
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DefendTheTruth
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by DefendTheTruth » 08 Sep 2020, 13:14
Dawi wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 12:45
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 12:12
This is Gada and this gathering is the ultimate source of power (Gumii Sabaa or General Assembly) on the affairs of the people on the ground.
Defend,
What "Essence of Democracy?"
As far as I am concerned such thinking of "gada" has been debunked beyond a reasonable doubt.
Let us keep "gada" in cultural studies for graduate students. Frankly we don't have time to play games anymore.
If you don't agree let us set up a debate in the matter by including international observers as the scholars in the subject matter demand. Settle it once and for all!
We don't need to experiment on our lives anymore.
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ጥቀስ ብትባል 360 ዎችን ትጣቅሳልህ ኢንዴ ወንድም ?
The guys there don't even understand the term deliberation process of the people at the grass root level let alone to have lived and sensed what it is. Talking about something that they hardily understand, simply a pretense act.
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banebris2013
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by banebris2013 » 08 Sep 2020, 22:51
Dawi wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 12:45
DefendTheTruth wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 12:12
This is Gada and this gathering is the ultimate source of power (Gumii Sabaa or General Assembly) on the affairs of the people on the ground.
Defend,
What "Essence of Democracy?"
As far as I am concerned such thinking of "gada" has been debunked beyond a reasonable doubt.
Let us keep "gada" in cultural studies for graduate students. Frankly we don't have time to play games anymore.
If you don't agree let us set up a debate in the matter by including international observers as the scholars in the subject matter demand. Settle it once and for all!
We don't need to experiment on our lives anymore.
Dawi,
Your argument is not knowledge based. I am pretty sure you have not seen a single research paper on The Gadaa System, let alone reading and understanding it. You lost your argument when you used do nothings, know nothings from 360 as part of your argument. Your argument is out of your emotion, not on what you know about the subject matter. Just try UNESCO and you might get something that will take your emotional argument. I also recommend Prof. Asmerom leggese's life long research on this matter.
HATE IS LIKE CANCER THAT DEVOID YOU OF REASONING. If anything, your argument will be out of how you feel about the Gada system than how much you know about it.
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TGAA
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by TGAA » 08 Sep 2020, 23:23
The problem with Geda system advocates is that in their thinking the 15centure culturally egalitarian system is applicable in 21 century. it is not.I am not saying that it could not be applicable at the local level, but nationally its woefully inadequate.
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by banebris2013 » 09 Sep 2020, 00:01
TGAA wrote: ↑08 Sep 2020, 23:23
The problem with Geda system advocates is that in their thinking the 15centure culturally egalitarian system is applicable in 21 century. it is not.I am not saying that it could not be applicable at the local level, but nationally its woefully inadequate.
TGAA,
That is how you see it, not what it is. No modern system is perfect, let alone using 15th century system in 21st century without any modification. The problem you have is you do not want to read the research done on the gada system and get the basics as why The Gada system is in UNESCO heritage list. Besides gada for oromos a powerful unifying tool, which of course does not go well with those who are not pro oromo.
Whether there are useful values from the Gada system that can be used nationally depends on who wants it. To my knowledge there is no official declaration from any national Ethiopian parties to make gada system applied nationally. I know for sure there is a push to make it more or less implemented in oromia by some oromo parties.
I actually recommend that you read research on the gada system as it is really fascinating, but of course you have to take off your bias lens when reading.
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TGAA
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by TGAA » 09 Sep 2020, 00:30
I have no bias toward researching and Knowing what it is. Actually, if there is a book you want to recommend I am very open to looking into it. However, I expect that the egalitarian system might work within particular cultural setting but not in others. In a society like ours, we need to make sure that the edifices of democracy should need to be set in a solid structural foundation to withstand the preassure coming from diffrent angles . Geda system has that I am sure but I'm looking forward to findout .