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Post by Abere » 10 Aug 2020, 13:29

ስዩም ተሾመ ቀፈታም አንተም ጁሃር እና ለማ ማለት ነህ። እስኪ የዐብይ አህመድ እና የጁሃር ሙሃመዲን ልዩነት እና አድነት አብራርተህ አስረዳን። በሆድህ ነው ነገሮችን የምታየው። የኔታ አሉት -የተምታታው ።

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Post by Ejersa » 10 Aug 2020, 14:07

The people of Oromo are asking for peace, prosperity, and UNITY with its brethren in Ethiopia. This is a great victory for PM Abiy and Prosperity's party.
Abere wrote:
10 Aug 2020, 13:29
ስዩም ተሾመ ቀፈታም አንተም ጁሃር እና ለማ ማለት ነህ። እስኪ የዐብይ አህመድ እና የጁሃር ሙሃመዲን ልዩነት እና አድነት አብራርተህ አስረዳን። በሆድህ ነው ነገሮችን የምታየው። የኔታ አሉት -የተምታታው ።

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Post by kibramlak » 11 Aug 2020, 14:19

I think you should add Shimelis and by transitivity Abiy to your list. The Pie Pie is going to crumble or it would stay as opdo

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Post by tlel » 11 Aug 2020, 17:52

Ethiopia will continue to have problems as long as it is being lead by predominant ethnic or religious groups. It should be based on talent and it doesn't matter who you are. For example there SHOULD NOT be coordinated and designed only one ethnic or religious groups because they won't accommodate of the rest of Ethiopians! We have lived it under Tplf, wake up! Pp party could reform itself by making its leadership purely based on ability and talent if you want the country to move forward and strong. create the future diverse generation for talent, leadership. We still don't know what kind of pp leadership is going to be and those of you instead of insulting advice people if what I mentioned above you agree to it.

Seyoum is wrong saying Lema did not contribute, look, if you eventually have good result, the team all together those with ideas, those who put it on the ground are all part of change so this is what team is about and propogate this method instead of saying only idea matters, no, you don't just need idea without participating and action on the ground and all those involved for good outcome have credit!

Mistake, the design of Kilil had given Oromia and Amara gigantic, and it is wrong and detrimenatl to the country because especially the leadership withn Oromia or Amara could be corrupted, could lead civil war there they should not be given fully leadership based on their kilil but by bringing regions like before 14 in fact creating more upto 30 regions and giving power to diverse society that could unify Ethiopia not based on these gigantic kilils purely based on ethnicity is detrimental even if it works it is very temporary. we have to get rid of this ethnic region concept rather based on solely region that make everyone participate to the country, wake up seyoum!

At the end though Seyoum did great job explaining and thanking Lema and explaining why it is necessary to be away ethnic fanaticism. Perhaps this Oromara will be temporary until the country is stable then we can transition away from ethnic-dependent rule as the concept itself is backward. Tigrayans also should really sit down and discuss the future of Tigray and Ethiopia. In the first place, Tigray pre tplf was by itself designed by ethnicity, why? perhaps Tigray naming region itslef created its own ethnic radicalism which is prove enough ethnic region is dangerous, this by no means to say there should not be ethnics no. Tigray naming region itself brough radicalism and we should be away from this. While it is still difficult how to construct regions, I say, Ethiopia should be constructed based on what regions have and provides, also by taking examples of other countries. Please stop copy cat also as our geopolitics is not the same as other's however it is good to do research what works and what does not and construct the regions like that.

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Post by sun » 11 Aug 2020, 18:47

tlel wrote:
11 Aug 2020, 17:52
Ethiopia will continue to have problems as long as it is being lead by predominant ethnic or religious groups. It should be based on talent and it doesn't matter who you are. For example there SHOULD NOT be coordinated and designed only one ethnic or religious groups because they won't accommodate of the rest of Ethiopians! We have lived it under Tplf, wake up! Pp party could reform itself by making its leadership purely based on ability and talent if you want the country to move forward and strong. create the future diverse generation for talent, leadership. We still don't know what kind of pp leadership is going to be and those of you instead of insulting advice people if what I mentioned above you agree to it.

Seyoum is wrong saying Lema did not contribute, look, if you eventually have good result, the team all together those with ideas, those who put it on the ground are all part of change so this is what team is about and propogate this method instead of saying only idea matters, no, you don't just need idea without participating and action on the ground and all those involved for good outcome have credit!

Mistake, the design of Kilil had given Oromia and Amara gigantic, and it is wrong and detrimenatl to the country because especially the leadership withn Oromia or Amara could be corrupted, could lead civil war there they should not be given fully leadership based on their kilil but by bringing regions like before 14 in fact creating more upto 30 regions and giving power to diverse society that could unify Ethiopia not based on these gigantic kilils purely based on ethnicity is detrimental even if it works it is very temporary. we have to get rid of this ethnic region concept rather based on solely region that make everyone participate to the country, wake up seyoum!


Really? :P

I am not a politician but yet I think that you are 101% wrong in claiming that predominant groups are problems when in fact the exact opposite is the truth, nothing but the truth.

A country being ruled by stable predominant groups will make the country and the government stable, legitimate and sustainable to say the least. Majority rule with minority rights is the way to the healthy wealthy egalitarian democratic high way.

You may ask the majority for willingly transferring power to you, the minority, as you say, because you are very thirsty for power and gone vulgar, vocal, arrogant and noisy but yet expect nothing of such undeserved magic free power to be given to you on the Golden plate. You may try your fashionable acrobatic naked dancing in the the rain and getting yourself completely dirty both physically and spiritually since greed is aid to be the killing pill.

How the fck can you get rid of the current federal structure which more or less accommodates the interests of some 80 diverse nations and nationalities of Ethiopia and being supported by about 90% of Ethiopians? Do you think that even Amharas will just give up their fertile and large region just for you free fake songs and farfetched fairy tales? NEVER! :mrgreen:

Yes, as a power hungry self serving propagandist you may claim that Oromos and Amharas may become corrupt because they are so BIG but then in the opinion of the BIG two you and your types can easily get corrupt and completely irresponsible zealots prone to cause multiple problems and become obstacles to security and prosperity just like the current tplf minority oligarchs causing almost all the current problems all over Ethiopia.

What kind of irrevocable and verifiable sure guarantee can you offer to the possibility that you may not become the planets most corrupt animal, I mean given the opportunity? Ability, talent, loyalty and trust building are some of the core elements!
:P


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Post by sun » 11 Aug 2020, 19:19

kibramlak wrote:
11 Aug 2020, 14:19
I think you should add Shimelis and by transitivity Abiy to your list. The Pie Pie is going to crumble or it would stay as opdo
For some confused heartless and hateful zealots like you any sensible leader, be it current or in the future will remain to be your nightmare destnied to chase you around like the wild Hare. :lol:

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