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The lie factory Egypt

Post by TGAA » 19 Jul 2020, 22:55

Egyptian politicians and the press seem falling on top of each other in concocting lies on the daily bases. What we know for fact is Ethiopia is experiencing high volume of rainfall at this time, Lake Victoria is full to its brim releasing a lot of water to downstream countries. Why then the lie factory , Egypt , coming up with concocted report that water station stopped operating because it want to fortify the narrative Egypt existence is being threatened by Ethiopian dam. If Sudan a country next door cannot operate its water station, Egypt, a country 1000 km far from Ethiopia ,claim RE Dam is existential threat rings as true. What Egyptian don’t understand is they are operating from rubbed of colonial caricature of Africans. What going to learn is that Ethiopians in particular and Africans in general are not the caricature creation of colonial past . The sooner Egypt understand that it will be better for itself. Bing respectful of Ethiopia and negotiating in term of win and win compromise is the best way forward. Any hanky-panky move by Egypt would be a foolhardy move.

Look at Egyptian caricature of Ethopia :


Green, Yellow , and red Ethiopian flag look Ethiopian
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18503.JPG
Ethiopia's imperialist ambitions in Africa
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18500.JPG
Renaissance Dam: Ethiopia quenches its thirst and pisses on Egypt
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18501.JPG
Coming soon to Egypt due to the Renaissance Dam

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by Wedi » 19 Jul 2020, 23:59

TGAA Egyptian local News የወያኔዎች የትዊተር ገጽ ነው፡፡ ከአንድ አመት በፊት እኔም የግብጾች መስሎ ነበር ነገር ግን ወደ ታች እስክሮል ሳደር በአምርኛ ሁሉ ቲውት የተደረገ ጹሁፍ አገኘው፡፡
እነዚህ ወያኔዎች ኢትዮጵያን ምክልን ያክል እንደሚጠሉ ከዚህ መረዳት ትችላለህ!!

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by Ethoash » 20 Jul 2020, 00:07

ግብፆች ውሃው የኛነው ካሉ ። ዝናብ ስወርድ ኢትዬዽያ ውስጥ ውሃውን ከፈለጉ በእጃቸው ከፈለጉ በቀሚሳቸው ስብስበው ይህንን ውሃችውን ወድ ግብፅ መውስድ ይችላሉ ምንም የኢትዬዽያን መሬት ሳይረግጡ።

እኛን ውሃ ውስዶ ዚሮ ፕርስንት ነው ያንተ ድርሻ ። እኛ የታሪካዊ ተጠቃሚ ነን ሲሉ እኮ ባሌበት ስለሆንን ነው ቪቶ ሃይል ያለን የሚሉህ ። በሌላ በኩል ደግሞ ኢትዬዽያ የአባይን ውሃ ባለቤት አይደለችም ይሉናል ታድያሳ መካፈል መጋራት አለብን ይሉህል ከዛሳ አበሻ መብቱና ድርሻው ዜሮ ፕርስንት ነው ይሉህል

በአንድ በኩል ኢትዬዽያ ፪ ፕርስንት ውሃ ከቀንስችብን አባይን ለሞሙላት ሚሊዬን ገበሬ ይሞታል በውሃ ጥም ይሉሀል። ግብፅ ሄደህ ስታይ እርሻቸውን የሚያለሙት በጎርፍ መስኖ መሆኑን ስታይ የሚባክነው ውሃ ብቻ አስር ፕርስንት በላይ ይሆናል በጣም ባፈጀና ኋላ ቀር መንገድ እየተጠቀሙ እኝንም ሊጎትቱ ይፈልጋሉ።

ደግሞ የጨውን ውሃ አጣርታቹሁ ተጠቀሙ ስትላቸው እኛ የአባይን ውሃ በሙሉ አናጣራም ይሉሀል ። ማን ጠየቀህ የአብይን ውሃ በሙሉ እንድታጣራ አስር ፕርስንት ብቻ ብታጣራ እኮ ለኢትዬዽያ የምጽጣት ድርሻ ይሆርሀል ማለት ነው። በዚህ ላይ ውሃ ስትከፍልበት ዋጋውን ታወቀዋልኸ

ካይሮ ስት ሄዱ የአባይ ውሃ ገምቶ መንገድ አያሳልፍም ማንም አሁንም ከካይሮ አባይ ውሃ የሚጠጣ የለም ታድያ ምኑን ነው ሁለት ፕርስንት ቢጎድልብን እናልቃለን የሚሉን ። ለአባይማ ክብር አንደሌላቸው ለማውቅ ካይሮ ብቻ ማየት ይበቃል። ይህ ብቻ አይደለም የግፋቸው ግፍ እናልቃለን እያሉ አዲስ ከተማ የካይሮን መቶ ግዜ እጥፍ ከተማ ውሃም እንድጉድ የሚጠጣ ከተማ እየስሩ ። በውሃ ጥም ልናልቅነው እያሉ ማሞረት አይሆንም።

እወነት ለመናገር ቢያልቁሳ የነሱን ያልሆነ ውሃ መቀማት ይችላሉ ወይ እኛ እኮ አስር ሚሊዬን በረሀብ አጥተናል ውሃ ውሃ እያልን። እኛ ምንም እዳ የለብንም የግብፅን ሕዝብ ውሃ ለማጠጣት። እንዳልኩት ጥቁር አባይ ፻ ፕርስንት ከኢትዬዽያ ነው የሚሄደው እንደኔ ከሆን ግብፅ ስልሳ ፕርስንት ትውስድ ሱዳን አስራ አምስት ፓርስንት ትውስድ እኛ ደግሞ አያ አምስት ፕርስንት እንውስድ። ታድያ የግብፅን ስልሳ ፕርስንት እስካልነካን ድረስ የፈለግነውን ማረግ መብታችን ነው ።


ደግሞ አሉ ጦርነት የሚያስፈራሩን መልካም ጦርነት ይውስን የአባይን ጉዳይ


ግብፅ ካሽነፈሽ ጠቅላላ መብቷ ይጠበቃል በአባይ ላይ

ደግሞ አበሾች ካሽነፉ

፩። ኢትዬዽያ መቶ በመቶ ውሃውን ተውስዳለች ። ለሱዳን ከስጠች በኋላ

፪። ኢትዬዽያ ሱይስ ካናልን የሚኖሩትን በደዊዎች አስልፋ ነፃነት ታወጣቸውና በሙሉ የግብፅ ወድብ ለነዚህ አፍሪካኖች ጥቁር አረቦች ይሆናል ። ግብፅ ወደብ አልባ ት ሆናለች።

ታድያ ለዚህ እንዴት ነው ኢትዬዽያ ጦሩን የምታሽንፈው ። ምንም ባለማረግ። ግብፆች ግድቡን ከመቱት ትልቅ ፀጋ ነው ዝም ብለን አባይን ከነአፍጢሙ ሞልተን ውሃው ግዜው ሲደርስ ግድቡን ፈንግሎ ካይሮን ጠራርጎ ይሄዳል። እኛ ምንም ሳናረግ ዝም ብለን ውሃውን በመሙላት። ግንብ ከዚህ በፊት ፈርሶ ከትማ ነው የደመስ ሰው ። ግብፆች በምን ባላ ነው የተመታነው የሚሉት።

የግብፅ ታንክና መትረየስ ዋጋ የለውም ጠላት ፫ኪሎሜትር ከፍታ ላይ ቁጭ ብሎ ሲጠብቕ እንዴት ነው ተራራ አይቶ የማያውቅ ግብፅ ከነቦርጩ ተራራውን የሚወጣው ። ትግሬዎች ደርግን የሚጫውቱበት እንዲህ ነበር ሶስት ስው ለዛውም አካለ ስንኩል ያስቀምጡና ከመቶ ሺህ ውታደሮችን ረሚም ያረጉ ነበር ።ደርስው ሲያዩ ሶስት ወርቃማ ውታደሮች ነበር ጉድ የስሩዋቸው።

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by Wedi » 20 Jul 2020, 00:15

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"You [Egypt] can’t live in a desert and expect another nation to provide you with a never-ending supply of water for your ever-increasing population." Martin Plaut
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https://martinplaut.com/2020/07/16/how- ... -the-nile/

By Martin Plaut

Journalist specialising in the Horn of Africa and Southern Africa



How can Egypt really deal with #Ethiopia over the Nile?

By appealing to Ethiopia and making better use of water supplies and conservation, while controlling its population, Egypt can get through this crisis. Threats and sanctions will not resolve this problem.

First: Has the dam started filling?

There are conflicting reports about whether Ethiopia has begun filling the Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam (GERD) on the blue Nile.

The BBC said the filling had begun. But Ethiopia’s Water Minister, Seleshi Bekele, denied the reports. He told the Associated Press that satellite images showing the waters behind the dam rising simply reflected heavy rains, resulting in inflow being greater than the outflow. He later tweeted saying it had created “natural pooling.”

But even if filling has not begun yet, the reality is that Ethiopia will start filling the GERD soon. This is the rainy season – if the water is not captured soon, then another year will be lost. The dam costs at least $4 billion and Ethiopia will have to start replying this debt to the Chinese company building it before too long.
What has Egypt tried so far?

Egypt has tried every avenue to prevent Ethiopia from damming the Nile, and thereby reducing its flow.

Historically, Cairo funded Ethiopian opposition movements to try to prevent development taking place, with only limited success.

It has insisted that colonial treaties (the most recent dating back to 1959) must be respected, all of which guarantee its share of the Nile will not decrease. This had one flaw: Ethiopia was not a signatory and therefore believes it is not bound by these treaties.

Used international negotiations in every possible forum. These have included bilateral discussions with Ethiopian leaders; taking the matter to the UN Security Council and the Arab League and – most recently – the African Union. It even turned to the US and Donald Trump. None of these initiatives have worked.
Threatened military action. The trouble with this is that there are few plausible scenarios in which Egyptian forces could seriously damage the dam, even if they managed to get their forces that far.

Nothing has succeeded. The dam is almost complete and filling has begun or is about to begin.

The problem with these approaches is that they all fail to deal with the central issue: the Blue Nile (which provides 85% of the waters that Egypt needs) rises in Ethiopia. Possession – as is often said – is nine-tenths of the law.

The majority of Ethiopians have no access to electricity. Damming the Nile will provide it. It is essential to their livelihoods and development. It is really as simple as that.

Ethiopia is not willing to abandon its people just because a dam threatens Egyptian interests.
So what should Egypt do?

Egypt should adopt a twin-track approach.

First: stop trying to get a binding, multilateral treaty that can force Ethiopia to release water if there is a bad drought in the Ethiopian highlands. Instead, talk to Ethiopia directly, without threats of international sanctions or military actions.

Addis Ababa understands Egypt’s plight. Ethiopians and Egyptians are fellow Africans, even if Cairo frequently forgets this – prefering to see itself as an Arab or Middle Eastern power. Ask Ethiopia to bear in mind the potential suffering of millions of Egyptians, if it ever considers closing the dam in times of need.

Second: tackle the water issue at home.

Do not forget that in 1959 (at the time of the last Nile treaty) Egypt was home to some 26 million people. Since then its population has increased fourfold to over 100 million. You can’t live in a desert and expect another nation to provide you with a never-ending supply of water for your ever-increasing population.

Stop trying to extend the land you are irrigating by syphoning off the Nile to the Toshka depression and into the Sinai via the El Salam Canal Project to the North Sinai Development project. These are not part of traditional Egyptian agricultural lands.

Improve the use of the water that you already have, by improving your agricultural methods and decreasing leaking domestic water supplies. Egypt can also turn to solar-powered desalination to increase its own supplies.

By appealing to Ethiopia and making better use of water supplies and conservation, while controlling its population, Egypt can get through this crisis. Threats and sanctions will not resolve this problem.

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by Za-Ilmaknun » 20 Jul 2020, 01:19

The dam is now a reality. No amount of threat or sabotage will stop Ethiopia from using its own resources. Egyptians can say anything or try to depict ethiopia in any mode of caricature, but that will only strengthen our resolve to use our water to develop our country.

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by Somaliman » 20 Jul 2020, 05:25

Their cartoon is intentionally demeaning and racist!

The basta.rds know how to make decent cartoons when they want.

Egypt can only win through peaceful negotiations. Even if it bombed the dam, Ethiopia would rebuild it, and this time things would be even worse as Ethiopia would not even bother to consult any Egyptian.


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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by tarik » 20 Jul 2020, 10:12

TGAA wrote:
19 Jul 2020, 22:55
Egyptian politicians and the press seem falling on top of each other in concocting lies on the daily bases. What we know for fact is Ethiopia is experiencing high volume of rainfall at this time, Lake Victoria is full to its brim releasing a lot of water to downstream countries. Why then the lie factory , Egypt , coming up with concocted report that water station stopped operating because it want to fortify the narrative Egypt existence is being threatened by Ethiopian dam. If Sudan a country next door cannot operate its water station, Egypt, a country 1000 km far from Ethiopia ,claim RE Dam is existential threat rings as true. What Egyptian don’t understand is they are operating from rubbed of colonial caricature of Africans. What going to learn is that Ethiopians in particular and Africans in general are not the caricature creation of colonial past . The sooner Egypt understand that it will be better for itself. Bing respectful of Ethiopia and negotiating in term of win and win compromise is the best way forward. Any hanky-panky move by Egypt would be a foolhardy move.

Look at Egyptian caricature of Ethopia :


Green, Yellow , and red Ethiopian flag look Ethiopian
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18503.JPG
Ethiopia's imperialist ambitions in Africa
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18500.JPG
Renaissance Dam: Ethiopia quenches its thirst and pisses on Egypt
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18501.JPG
Coming soon to Egypt due to the Renaissance Dam
SZFK, u pinochio looking mzfker. u and ur whole beggar ethiopia r z #1 liars and beggars u agame liar not EGYPT!!! BAZTARDO FIELLLE DIKNAEEE.
:roll:

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Re: The lie factory Egypt

Post by TGAA » 20 Jul 2020, 19:01

tarik wrote:
20 Jul 2020, 10:12
TGAA wrote:
19 Jul 2020, 22:55
Egyptian politicians and the press seem falling on top of each other in concocting lies on the daily bases. What we know for fact is Ethiopia is experiencing high volume of rainfall at this time, Lake Victoria is full to its brim releasing a lot of water to downstream countries. Why then the lie factory , Egypt , coming up with concocted report that water station stopped operating because it want to fortify the narrative Egypt existence is being threatened by Ethiopian dam. If Sudan a country next door cannot operate its water station, Egypt, a country 1000 km far from Ethiopia ,claim RE Dam is existential threat rings as true. What Egyptian don’t understand is they are operating from rubbed of colonial caricature of Africans. What going to learn is that Ethiopians in particular and Africans in general are not the caricature creation of colonial past . The sooner Egypt understand that it will be better for itself. Bing respectful of Ethiopia and negotiating in term of win and win compromise is the best way forward. Any hanky-panky move by Egypt would be a foolhardy mo


Look at Egyptian caricature of Ethopia :


Green, Yellow , and red Ethiopian flag look Ethiopian
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18503.JPG
Ethiopia's imperialist ambitions in Africa
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18500.JPG
Renaissance Dam: Ethiopia quenches its thirst and pisses on Egypt
http://www.memri.org/sites/default/file ... /18501.JPG
Coming soon to Egypt due to the Renaissance Dam
SZFK, u pinochio looking mzfker. u and ur whole beggar ethiopia r z #1 liars and beggars u agame liar not EGYPT!!! BAZTARDO FIELLLE DIKNAEEE.
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Tarik Jabhas panhandler, is Egypt being called a lier got under your skin? what about Your dream of turning Eritrea into Arab that has been evaporating into thin air for how many years -- that must hurt as well too. Deny as you may but your heart is bleeding for anything Arab!
Look Abay is filling

you can join Alsi si and cry your heart out. Idiot! All Arabs are liers -- but Egyptian take the cake.

Tarik how is your panhandling going on in Cairo street: you seem to make a decent income. Long live alsi si !

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