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I chose the nick DefendTheTruth to tell the Truth according to my consciousness

Post by DefendTheTruth » 12 Jul 2020, 09:22

On this forum I was the first, if I am not mistaken, who warned before a number of years that the making of Qeerroo seems to have all the hallmarks of the preceeding similar endeavor of making Al-shabab in the neighboring counry of Somalia.

I also added back then that the first body to bear the brand of the fatal consequences of such a business in the uncharted territory will be the Oromo people itself.

Here we can see it with our own very eyies.
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those who chose to remain silent back then for the sake of political expediency have to face now the bitter but hard reality.

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Post by Sam Ebalalehu » 12 Jul 2020, 09:37

The other day somebody wrote both Alshebab and Querro means young. If it is true the name querro was purposely selected , and what we witnessed last week was the reflection of that purpose.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 12 Jul 2020, 13:40

Sam Ebalalehu,

I tried to search for my old posts but seems that I can't find the right message but I found one with sort of similar content:

I wrote in the year 2015 the following:

" ...
The youth is not dumb as such, but it lacks one main factor in making the (its) decisions, which is the experience I mentioned before, to make a sound und informed decision. This results mainly from the information overload we all face today, or at least partly, it simply can’t process it properly. The youth is overwhelmed more than any of us today.

You may wonder why the Somali extremist group “Al-Shabab” is said to be “”The Youth” in the local language. ISIS/ISIL, the other extremist group in the world today, is said to openly target the youth even in Europe or other western countries in recruiting to its ranks. The question remains to be why explicitly target the youth??

I will not be surprised if there is an attempt in Ethiopia too to try to use the youth for one’s own end goal. I sometimes read in the internet about a group calling itself “Qeerroo” in Afan Oromo, which means again the youth, which is sometimes issuing some press releases.

Even the fat boy called Jawahr Mohammad was openly calling on the youth to stand behind his new found enterprise called OMN, in the name of running a free media. I am not against a free media or one’s right or ambition to a free media, but when the goal of the media remains as bogus as what Jawahr’s own goal is, I must be suspicious about the motive of such enterprise, and the impact such game will have on our quest for democracy at the end of the day. And the impact the internet is having in facilitating such games in all of the above and many more similar cases, is not yet known well, I think."



I don't know what we could be talking about 5 years from now down the road (into the future) but unless we try to rectify our own distortion things will not get back to the normal on their own and even more could be coming, I am afraid.

We are paying the price of our own inaction or commission, I think.

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Re: I chose the nick DefendTheTruth to tell the Truth according to my consciousness

Post by tlel » 12 Jul 2020, 13:55

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 09:37
The other day somebody wrote both Alshebab and Querro means young. If it is true the name querro was purposely selected , and what we witnessed last week was the reflection of that purpose.
Include Shabia, Shabia means youth accepted by Eritreans to attract Arabs. Shabia now since accepted Arabs has full power in horn of africa including controlling Somalia and creating al shabab during Ethio-Somalia war via Wako Guttu was fighting against Ethiopia with Somalia. That is why Jawar keept talking about Wako Guttu as hero in fact they put statue for him in Ethiopia instead of Jagama kello, Balcha aba nefso, bekele weya, their children are being killed by Somalia wing Oromo today, al shabab, created by shabia, and tplf. above them are the powers including those we call they are historical friends of ethiopia NOT. As for Shabia, it acts exactly its masters in horn of Africa, shabia divided in killil, created the ethnic constitution and watching us fight eachother not only that its hand is in all over Ethiopia and Liberation Fronts in Ethiopia. It was challenged by Ethiopian wing of Tplf and now that is weakening that it has the upper hand. When taking over of Olf means, the sharing of power with Shabia in Ethiopia don't be fooled.

f..u those who knew so many secrets and put Ethiopians in the dark so that ethiopians won't wake up. still there are lots of secrecy from over throwing of h selassie till present against ethiopians.

By the way, there is now OLf (within it tplf and Shabia ) have army in Kenya, Somalia, Eritrea and Tigray. Goodybe Ethiopia!



Sam,
The coming of this new government was that created the division among the youth of Ethiopians eventhough they called themselves Zerma, Querro or Fano, they were all fighting Tplf and ousted Tplf until this PP government showed up and inviting OLF and divided the Querro away from Zerma and Fano further dividing Ethiopians which struggled to oust Tplf. That is why the current government itself is OLF don't forget what Shimels Abdi said during Irricha, that Neftegna's is gone or something like that. so many shady things that is not clear especially watching people killed and the local police said no, we did not get order from above to stop the attacks is by all means this government is another tplf olf itself. I don't buy the arrest either if they work for the government they will be relased tomorrow. They are in prison because it is threatening the current governmnet take over that is why not because they ordered the killing of Ethiopians since Burayu, which nothing happened and no one is arrested because of this or 86 people Jawar ordered for killing of Christians in Oromia. They are cleansing Christians in Oromia region. to make matters worse, they arrested Eskinder Nega who had bee suffering under tplf and fighting for Addis people and Ethiopians. Aby or Lema are all the product of the masters Tplf and Shabia. in order to work with tplf and live in peace they order you to kill once you pass that test then you are appointed. They, of course are the victims but, now especially the past 2 years was great opportunity to get rid of tplf and ethnic fanatics but not true, there is every reason to suspect now inviting radicals and eprps making ethiopians snooz by allying with Shabia.

The ORomos better wake up especially the Orthodox Christians. Why did they kill Haccalu because he is Orthodox Christian and as an artist he could influence the querro towards peace and against violence that is why. The Olf have declared Oromo Orthodox Christians as enemy too that is why most killed recently included only Orthodox Christians and within it the most killed were Oromos.

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Re: I chose the nick DefendTheTruth to tell the Truth according to my consciousness

Post by EPRDF » 12 Jul 2020, 14:27

DefendTheTruth wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 09:22

On this forum I was the first,
if I am not mistaken, who warned before a number of years that the making of Qeerroo seems to have all the hallmarks of the preceeding similar endeavor of making Al-shabab in the neighboring counry of Somalia.

I also added back then that the first body to bear the brand of the fatal consequences of such a business in the uncharted territory will be the Oromo people itself.

Here we can see it with our own very eyies.
Please wait, video is loading...
those who chose to remain silent back then for the sake of political expediency have to face now the bitter but hard reality.
Obbo defend,

you are not the first one, actually I was screaming to expose Qeeroo's outlaw nature and I declared all the Oromo activists, politicians including team Lema to be held accountable. But to the contrary, you were denouncing my appeal in favor of your politicians at the time. You are awake now and it is a good turn.
Better to be late than never. faayaa dayee.Let me refresh your mind

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=160747&start=20#p817041
by DefendTheTruth » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:19 am

Woy ante? Keyetignew gora mehoneh new gin?

Daud Ibsa came on the media and made a declaration saying "we organised and leading Qeerroo" before a year or so, as far as I remember. Do you have any substantiating/supporting evidence that the names you mentioned (in case any, then all of them) are indeed behind the law-lessness currently prevailing in the country? If not, why are you so shameless in trying to taint the good names of law abiding and hard-working citizens in the country? What is your goal?

I heard somewhere that Jawar Mohammad was the leader of the youth movement in the country, when it was said trying to bring change to the country. I asked here and somewhere if the entity have got any specific goal other than making big rallies and burning public and other private properties in order to oppose the government in power at that time. I didn't see any of such things until today.

Somewhere I heard in a video clip I listened to that he (Jaanjoo Mohammad) was distancing himself from the same entity currently reportedly instigating violence in parts of the country, including western Ethiopia, like Dambi Dollo, and other parts of the country where already a number of innocent lives have lost their lives.

You must be a shameless and venomous creature to have tried to associate the names of all those peoples you listed with such a crime without having any proof of evidence.

Otherwise show up your evidence!

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Post by Cigar » 12 Jul 2020, 14:30

You dumb as*s filthy agame, Shaebia is an Arabic word which does not even remotely translates to YOUTH.
Do your research or ask an Arabic speaking person and find out what it means.
I don't even want to explain to you what it means.
Besides, Eritrea is a free country, an independent and sovereign UN member nation which got its indepence with co-operation of its people and is going forward with all its Eritrean people.
Read between the fine line. Your answer your answer to what Shaebia means.
By the way all the humans of the world are SHAEBIAS, including the ethiopians, unless you are admitting that you are a donkey or a hyena or a rat. Only if you idiot know what Shaebia means.
Remember EPLF in Eritrean liberation front, or EP in ethiopian people, TPLF in TP tigreyan people, or even AP in American people.
That is the meaning of SHAEBIA. It has nothing to do with fighting for struggle, gorilla fight, independence fight or freedom fight or hating crap.

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 12 Jul 2020, 15:08

EPRDF wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 14:27
DefendTheTruth wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 09:22

On this forum I was the first,
if I am not mistaken, who warned before a number of years that the making of Qeerroo seems to have all the hallmarks of the preceeding similar endeavor of making Al-shabab in the neighboring counry of Somalia.

I also added back then that the first body to bear the brand of the fatal consequences of such a business in the uncharted territory will be the Oromo people itself.

Here we can see it with our own very eyies.
Please wait, video is loading...
those who chose to remain silent back then for the sake of political expediency have to face now the bitter but hard reality.
Obbo defend,

you are not the first one, actually I was screaming to expose Qeeroo's outlaw nature and I declared all the Oromo activists, politicians including team Lema to be held accountable. But to the contrary, you were denouncing my appeal in favor of your politicians at the time. You are awake now and it is a good turn.
Better to be late than never. faayaa dayee.Let me refresh your mind

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=160747&start=20#p817041
by DefendTheTruth » Sun Jul 29, 2018 9:19 am

Woy ante? Keyetignew gora mehoneh new gin?

Daud Ibsa came on the media and made a declaration saying "we organised and leading Qeerroo" before a year or so, as far as I remember. Do you have any substantiating/supporting evidence that the names you mentioned (in case any, then all of them) are indeed behind the law-lessness currently prevailing in the country? If not, why are you so shameless in trying to taint the good names of law abiding and hard-working citizens in the country? What is your goal?

I heard somewhere that Jawar Mohammad was the leader of the youth movement in the country, when it was said trying to bring change to the country. I asked here and somewhere if the entity have got any specific goal other than making big rallies and burning public and other private properties in order to oppose the government in power at that time. I didn't see any of such things until today.

Somewhere I heard in a video clip I listened to that he (Jaanjoo Mohammad) was distancing himself from the same entity currently reportedly instigating violence in parts of the country, including western Ethiopia, like Dambi Dollo, and other parts of the country where already a number of innocent lives have lost their lives.

You must be a shameless and venomous creature to have tried to associate the names of all those peoples you listed with such a crime without having any proof of evidence.

Otherwise show up your evidence!
I said before that trying to face the truth is to the advantage of one's own credibility, when that same someone may come back to the public space, like this forum to claim something.

Your quoted post is from the year 2018 and the one I posted is from the year 2015 and you claim in public about "you are not the first", that is for your readers to see and say the year 2018 is before the year 2015.

That may as it be, but where in the quote did I defend the entity called itself Qeerroo?

If anything you were throwing everybody into the same pot and i questioned the legitimecy of that, becaue that is not about seeking true accountability but giving it a cover-up, in my view.

I am still not sure if all the people you mentioned back then, namely:

Obbo Lecho Leta
Obbo Bakala Garba
Obbo Dima Nageo
Obbo Marara Gudina
Obbo Nagaso Gidada
Obbo Lama Magarsa
Obbo Abiy Ahmed
Obbo Junedin Sado
Obbo Muktar Kedir
Obbo Tsegaye Ararsa
Obbo Ezkeil Gabisa
Obbo Jawar Mohammed

are all equally to blame for the big crime committed on our people first by creating an entity calling itself Qeerroo and today when we witnessed the mayhem the same entity can cause to the people of the country.

Of course there are qeerroos who are still may be acting in good faith of serving the interest of their people, who may but lack adequate skill to do so.

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Post by EPRDF » 12 Jul 2020, 18:08

Obbo defend,

When woyane arrived in Addis/Finfine almost twenty-nine years ago, from the high-rank profiles i.e. Meles, Seyom, Seye..etc.. all the way down to gate security/Zebegna of Woyane members they were talking the same language and had the same understanding of the situation what they fought for and perfectly all knew what their objective was.

This shows how Woyane agitated and organized its ragtag armies with discipline and had full control of their movement, and that’s why Woyane was able to provide security to the whole nation within a short period of time.

Now, in turn, all those Oromo activists and politicians including OPDO high ranking members were working in coordination against Woyane and somehow succeded in sending Woyane to its home town. As obvious it is, Collective Oromo movements, internal and external forces all had taken a part in organizing Qeerro to fight Woyane, but once had achieved their goal which was removing woyane, they had no more control over Qeeroo they created, and Qeero has hatched itself like an ant, swarmed the entire Oromia which is the heartland of Ethiopia whereas Oromo politicians are busy fighting among themselves for power.

The ultimate price payer has become the innocent people particularly the people who live inside the regional state that is called Oromia.

So each and every one of Oromo politicians and activists are equally responsible for what has been happening in the last two years in Oromia because of the failure in controlling the now trouble maker Qeeroo they created some five years ago.

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Post by sun » 12 Jul 2020, 20:00

EPRDF wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 18:08
Obbo defend,

When woyane arrived in Addis/Finfine almost twenty-nine years ago, from the high-rank profiles i.e. Meles, Seyom, Seye..etc.. all the way down to gate security/Zebegna of Woyane members they were talking the same language and had the same understanding of the situation what they fought for and perfectly all knew what their objective was.

This shows how Woyane agitated and organized its ragtag armies with discipline and had full control of their movement, and that’s why Woyane was able to provide security to the whole nation within a short period of time.

Now, in turn, all those Oromo activists and politicians including OPDO high ranking members were working in coordination against Woyane and somehow succeded in sending Woyane to its home town. As obvious it is, Collective Oromo movements, internal and external forces all had taken a part in organizing Qeerro to fight Woyane, but once had achieved their goal which was removing woyane, they had no more control over Qeeroo they created, and Qeero has hatched itself like an ant, swarmed the entire Oromia which is the heartland of Ethiopia whereas Oromo politicians are busy fighting among themselves for power.

The ultimate price payer has become the innocent people particularly the people who live inside the regional state that is called Oromia.

So each and every one of Oromo politicians and activists are equally responsible for what has been happening in the last two years in Oromia because of the failure in controlling the now trouble maker Qeeroo they created some five years ago.
Obbo EPRDF,

No body external created Qeerroos and Qaarrees because they created themselves out of the endless oppressive and brutal tplf tyrannies and torture situations. Some of these political demagogues who compete between themselves as being the the original creators of Qeerroos and Qarrees are lying to themselves because they are ashamed to admit that they couldn't achieve any thing meaningful even for some 50 long years which Qeerroos and Qarrees achieved in some 4-5 years.

Did you or any body really think/thought that "OPDO" high ranking members may not coordinate and work against the tplf, when the tplf was turning greedy, arrogant and brutal even by using Somali region ex- leader to organize militias and mass murder and slaughter [deleted] well as mass displace Oromos while in Addis Ababa tplf was actively and shamelessly Oromo farmers' lands and building high towers for themselves and their concubines, turning those landless Oromo peasants and their children in to the tplf house slaves and occasional guards? And you think that the Oromo Youth can't see, can't talk and can't hears such flagrant violations of human rights?

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Post by DefendTheTruth » 19 Jul 2020, 15:45

I am not sure, if in fact the entity called Qeerroo is actually the real culprit of this crime, but I am sure that many of its members didn't buy to the idea behind such a destruction of the wellbeing of their own people and their interest. It is definitely not in the spirit of being part of the solution of one's own people's problem. It is high time for Qeeroo to redeem its name before it will be too late.



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Post by Horus » 19 Jul 2020, 15:58

Sam Ebalalehu wrote:
12 Jul 2020, 09:37
The other day somebody wrote both Alshebab and Querro means young. If it is true the name querro was purposely selected , and what we witnessed last week was the reflection of that purpose.
ሆረስ ነኝ፤ በትክክል እኔ ነኝ አል ሻባብ እና ቄሮ ማለት ሁለቱም 'ወጣቱ' ማለት ነው ያልኩት ። ስለዚህ ጃዋር በቀጥታ አል ሻባ (ዘ ዩዝ) የሚለውን ነው ኮርጆ ለኦሮሞ የተጠቀመው ። የሌሎች ክልል አክቲቪስቶምች የነገሩን መርዛማነት ሳይመረምሩ በመኮረጅ ኮርማ፣ ደርማ፣ ዘርማ፣ ኤጀቶ (የህ የሲዳማ ቃል ወጣት ሳይሆን ተዋጊ ማለት ነው)፣ አርዴ ምናምን የሚሉ ስም አውጥተዋል ። ይህ ነው ነገሩ!

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