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[DefendTheTruth]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

[TGAA]

Not only self contradicts,but he thinks that he can insult the Ethiopian people intellect and gets away with it. That shows the depth of his stupidity.

[TGAA]

Not only self contradicts,but he thinks that he can insult the Ethiopian people intellect and gets away with it. That shows the depth of his stupidity.

[banebris2013]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling of inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

[Sam Ebalalehu]

banberis2013, you are the one who is in character assassination business, not DTT. DTT just pointed out there are no, “neftegnas” who are killing Oromos now. I do not think you have any evidence to discredit his belief. DTT is an honorable Ethiopian , who was born to Oromo families. He could feel the agony and misery of the Oromo people more than any of the Mekele political pimps who appointed themselves as spokesperson for every Ethiopian ethnicity save the Amharas. Banberis 2013 it is time to get real. The infantile politics of using one ethnicity against another is not going to work. TPLF might buy Bekele and Jawar for the time being, but not the Oromo people. To your information pimping ethnic politics is out of date. I am not suggesting Ethiopians once believed in it. Not at all. It was imposed on them. Now, they see the light. Now, they feel that the divide and rule politics is in its last gasp.

[banebris2013]

banberis2013, you are the one who is in character assassination business, not DTT. DTT just pointed out there are no, “neftegnas” who are killing Oromos now. I do not think you have any evidence to discredit his belief. DTT is an honorable Ethiopian , who was born to Oromo families. He could feel the agony and misery of the Oromo people more than any of the Mekele political pimps who appointed themselves as spokesperson for every Ethiopian ethnicity save the Amharas. Banberis 2013 it is time to get real. The infantile politics of using one ethnicity against another is not going to work. TPLF might buy Bekele and Jawar for the time being, but not the Oromo people. To your information pimping ethnic politics is out of date. I am not suggesting Ethiopians once believed in it. Not at all. It was imposed on them. Now, they see the light. Now, they feel that the divide and rule politics is in its last gasp.

It is up to you. The term neftenya is being used in the context of the old system prior to derg. It is specific to those who used arm to subjugate others as a representative of the kings/the rulers. Though some so called amharas took the mantle of being neftenya on themselves, the term was never been specific to one ethnic group. There were neftenya among oromos, walitas, amharas , tigres etc. If you and DDT argue that Mr Bekele is implying the existence of Neftenya in today's Ethiopia, i will leave that for you two.
As much as you are too optimist that the time of ethnic politics will come to an end, you need to reflect on the past. There is a cycle of misery coming again and again, the latest being Menge to meles. Abiy is yet to be categorized in the cycle as the situation is still evolving. But there is a chance he could also join the cycle. The only bright future is that Abiy, Bekele, Jawar etc are only transitional. The new generation of informed, conscious and mentally liberated young are the one that will decide the future of Ethiopia. In the mean time we can continue to beat the same political drum. Abiy, Lema and Gedu are good examples generation difference. They were young when Meles came to power and the rest is history. In comparative terms Abiy;s generation is far superior to Meles's generation.

[kibramlak]

Here is another imbecile of this forum who mix up things without any idea about anything. Bekele/Jawar have nothing to do with Oromia and qubbe. እነ ጃዋር እኮ ዘግይተው የመጡ የሰው ሰገራዎች ናቸው፣፣ They want to capitalise on the credit of others. Meles has done this for the sake of antagonizing different sectors of the society and for staying in power holding on one ethic group. Yes, this current generation is very well informed, including about the imbecility of people like Bekele, Jawar, Daud, etc. ዳውድ እኮ 50 አመት ሙሉ ለራሱ መተዳደሪያ አድርጎ የተጠቀመበት ኦነግ ምንም ያመጣው ሳይኖር አሁን አብይ በሰጠው የሰላም መንገድ ገብቶ በሰላማዊ መንገድ እንዲታገል ቢፈቀድለት ይህ ከእንስሳ እም ይሻል ጅል በመሳሪያ መንግስትሽአወርዳለሁ ብሎ እሚንቦጫረቅ ፍጡር ነው፣፣ የሰሞኑ የአብይ እማያሻማ ማስጠንቀቂያ ይህን ሁሉ አመልካች ነው፣፣

ለማንኛውም ብዙ ቦታ እንደነገርኩህ እንተ የእውቀትና የአስተሳሰብ ደሀ ስለሆንክ ዝም ብለህ ከምትዘባርቅ አንብበህ ተረዳ፣፣

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

[kibramlak]

Once more, so those who are armed now under OLF are not neftegna according to your sense ? Bekele talks about neftegna but supports arming OLF to kill and maime innocents , many those who speaks amharic who have nothing to do with neither the past nor the present political chaos. The fact of the matter is that imbeciles like bekele (which you seem to share his view) is the most morally bankrupt people who have no idea what to do in their lives. The people hare filled with hatred against imaginary neftegna/aka amhara. Contrary to your belief, these fanatics will not have any place and they got bankrupt at a speed of light. Their operators in Mekele will get their days as well. All these are human residuals

banberis2013, you are the one who is in character assassination business, not DTT. DTT just pointed out there are no, “neftegnas” who are killing Oromos now. I do not think you have any evidence to discredit his belief. DTT is an honorable Ethiopian , who was born to Oromo families. He could feel the agony and misery of the Oromo people more than any of the Mekele political pimps who appointed themselves as spokesperson for every Ethiopian ethnicity save the Amharas. Banberis 2013 it is time to get real. The infantile politics of using one ethnicity against another is not going to work. TPLF might buy Bekele and Jawar for the time being, but not the Oromo people. To your information pimping ethnic politics is out of date. I am not suggesting Ethiopians once believed in it. Not at all. It was imposed on them. Now, they see the light. Now, they feel that the divide and rule politics is in its last gasp.

It is up to you. The term neftenya is being used in the context of the old system prior to derg. It is specific to those who used arm to subjugate others as a representative of the kings/the rulers. Though some so called amharas took the mantle of being neftenya on themselves, the term was never been specific to one ethnic group. There were neftenya among oromos, walitas, amharas , tigres etc. If you and DDT argue that Mr Bekele is implying the existence of Neftenya in today's Ethiopia, i will leave that for you two.
As much as you are too optimist that the time of ethnic politics will come to an end, you need to reflect on the past. There is a cycle of misery coming again and again, the latest being Menge to meles. Abiy is yet to be categorized in the cycle as the situation is still evolving. But there is a chance he could also join the cycle. The only bright future is that Abiy, Bekele, Jawar etc are only transitional. The new generation of informed, conscious and mentally liberated young are the one that will decide the future of Ethiopia. In the mean time we can continue to beat the same political drum. Abiy, Lema and Gedu are good examples generation difference. They were young when Meles came to power and the rest is history. In comparative terms Abiy;s generation is far superior to Meles's generation.

[banebris2013]

Here is another imbecile of this forum who mix up things without any idea about anything. Bekele/Jawar have nothing to do with Oromia and qubbe. እነ ጃዋር እኮ ዘግይተው የመጡ የሰው ሰገራዎች ናቸው፣፣ They want to capitalise on the credit of others. Meles has done this for the sake of antagonizing different sectors of the society and for staying in power holding on one ethic group. Yes, this current generation is very well informed, including about the imbecility of people like Bekele, Jawar, Daud, etc. ዳውድ እኮ 50 አመት ሙሉ ለራሱ መተዳደሪያ አድርጎ የተጠቀመበት ኦነግ ምንም ያመጣው ሳይኖር አሁን አብይ በሰጠው የሰላም መንገድ ገብቶ በሰላማዊ መንገድ እንዲታገል ቢፈቀድለት ይህ ከእንስሳ እም ይሻል ጅል በመሳሪያ መንግስትሽአወርዳለሁ ብሎ እሚንቦጫረቅ ፍጡር ነው፣፣ የሰሞኑ የአብይ እማያሻማ ማስጠንቀቂያ ይህን ሁሉ አመልካች ነው፣፣

ለማንኛውም ብዙ ቦታ እንደነገርኩህ እንተ የእውቀትና የአስተሳሰብ ደሀ ስለሆንክ ዝም ብለህ ከምትዘባርቅ አንብበህ ተረዳ፣፣

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

Kibramlak
Yanten ewket bitakflenge indante ehon nebere. If you really think you are what you claim try to make your point with out insulting. As the say goes "an empty barrel makes a lot of noise". Insulting others is a quality of those who are devoid of argument through reasoning. You are weak, with confidence. Typical idiot.

[DefendTheTruth]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling of inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

You seem to enteratin the idea that the issue is about personalities or time, but it is neither of the two. It is simply a contest betweeen ideas and the winning versus losing idea.

Dr. Abey can be from yesterday or tomorrow but essential is for him to have a winning idea. Those who lacked idea have nothing to offer except a call to instigate violence.

An educated and well informed generation is measured on how good it can generate a winning idea, not on when in time it arrived. Get that in perspective if you care about your self.

[banebris2013]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling of inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

You seem to enteratin the idea that the issue is about personalities or time, but it is neither of the two. It is simply a contest betweeen ideas and the winning versus losing idea.

Dr. Abey can be from yesterday or tomorrow but essential is for him to have a winning idea. Those who lacked idea have nothing to offer except a call to instigate violence.

An educated and well informed generation is measured on how good it can generate a winning idea, not on when in time it arrived. Get that in perspective if you care about your self.

DTT,
Thanks for your honest and reasonable reply. But we can not argue about the future. What we can argue is the potential. That is my perspective. As to who is having a winning idea at the moment is measured by where you stand and look at it.The only practical way to measure is credible and fair election, which sadly not happening due to Covid-19. Ethiopian politics is argued on the past as well as present. Basically winning in politics is about creating perception in the minds of the voters. it is the perception in the mind voters that decides who the winner or loser will be. By the way you do not necessarily have a winning idea to win election. Trump is a good example. Trump was perceived by enough and crucial number of voters to win the election.

[banebris2013]

Here is another imbecile of this forum who mix up things without any idea about anything. Bekele/Jawar have nothing to do with Oromia and qubbe. እነ ጃዋር እኮ ዘግይተው የመጡ የሰው ሰገራዎች ናቸው፣፣ They want to capitalise on the credit of others. Meles has done this for the sake of antagonizing different sectors of the society and for staying in power holding on one ethic group. Yes, this current generation is very well informed, including about the imbecility of people like Bekele, Jawar, Daud, etc. ዳውድ እኮ 50 አመት ሙሉ ለራሱ መተዳደሪያ አድርጎ የተጠቀመበት ኦነግ ምንም ያመጣው ሳይኖር አሁን አብይ በሰጠው የሰላም መንገድ ገብቶ በሰላማዊ መንገድ እንዲታገል ቢፈቀድለት ይህ ከእንስሳ እም ይሻል ጅል በመሳሪያ መንግስትሽአወርዳለሁ ብሎ እሚንቦጫረቅ ፍጡር ነው፣፣ የሰሞኑ የአብይ እማያሻማ ማስጠንቀቂያ ይህን ሁሉ አመልካች ነው፣፣

ለማንኛውም ብዙ ቦታ እንደነገርኩህ እንተ የእውቀትና የአስተሳሰብ ደሀ ስለሆንክ ዝም ብለህ ከምትዘባርቅ አንብበህ ተረዳ፣፣

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

Kibramlak
Yanten ewket bitakflenge indante ehon nebere. If you really think you are what you claim try to make your point with out insulting. As the say goes "an empty barrel makes a lot of noise". Insulting others is a quality of those who are devoid of argument through reasoning. You are weak, with no confidence. Typical idiot.

[Ethoash]

banebris2013

IS Number on those buda Amhara .. if you dont like Bekele Gerbas idea or what he stand for .. why would u care .. he stand for oromo.. for example Trump stand for Republican .. if one democrat guy doesn't like Trump that is his problem all he can do is not vote for Trump .. but he have no right to access Trump not being an American..

Bekele Gerbas seeking vote in oromia . he is not seeking vote in Amhara region .. so why not leave him if u want peace.. otherwise all the oromo going to tell u is come and touch their icon and u will see what will happnened to you the oromo, the Somlian and the golden are tired of those Amhara u better shut your mouth and mind only Amhara region.. no oromo care what the Amhara elect as governor .. do u see any Golden activist talk about your leaders no body care only Amhara care about other region..stay where you belong and mind only your business...

banebris2013 give good meaning to Neftegna.... anyone can be a Neftegna if he or she implementing the Neftegna policy ... Derg time almost magortiy were oromo and other ethnic but they were try to implement the Neftegna policy one language and one nation under one flag police and they fail..

in USA when we talk about police abuse we r not talking about white police officer and black victim.. the police could be a black officer and do the worst to black people why because the black police officer following the white extremist policy ..

in Los Angeles riots 1992 rodney king beating not all the police were white there were black police officers too..

anyhow Amhara if u want to keep mama Ethiopia unity please please dont push your luck .. no self respecting oromo listen to your buda attitude .. they will fight you back tooth to nail..

[Ethoash]

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[DefendTheTruth]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling of inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

You seem to enteratin the idea that the issue is about personalities or time, but it is neither of the two. It is simply a contest betweeen ideas and the winning versus losing idea.

Dr. Abey can be from yesterday or tomorrow but essential is for him to have a winning idea. Those who lacked idea have nothing to offer except a call to instigate violence.

An educated and well informed generation is measured on how good it can generate a winning idea, not on when in time it arrived. Get that in perspective if you care about your self.

DTT,
Thanks for your honest and reasonable reply. But we can not argue about the future. What we can argue is the potential. That is my perspective. As to who is having a winning idea at the moment is measured by where you stand and look at it.The only practical way to measure is credible and fair election, which sadly not happening due to Covid-19. Ethiopian politics is argued on the past as well as present. Basically winning in politics is about creating perception in the minds of the voters. it is the perception in the mind voters that decides who the winner or loser will be. By the way you do not necessarily have a winning idea to win election. Trump is a good example. Trump was perceived by enough and crucial number of voters to win the election.

Why you contradic yourself so fast and so much?

You wrote: "One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad" and I replied showing you that it is not a matter of time, but a matter of having an idea (a winning idea irrespective of time) and now instantly telling me "But we can not argue about the future". Which future should I take now from your comments?

In my view you could have done yourself a better service if you tried to understand about what you are commenting before rushing to idolize someone and try to silence someone else for that from commenting about issues of common interest.

[DefendTheTruth]

banebris2013

IS Number on those buda Amhara .. if you dont like Bekele Gerbas idea or what he stand for .. why would u care .. he stand for oromo.. for example Trump stand for Republican .. if one democrat guy doesn't like Trump that is his problem all he can do is not vote for Trump .. but he have no right to access Trump not being an American..

Bekele Gerbas seeking vote in oromia . he is not seeking vote in Amhara region .. so why not leave him if u want peace.. otherwise all the oromo going to tell u is come and touch their icon and u will see what will happnened to you the oromo, the Somlian and the golden are tired of those Amhara u better shut your mouth and mind only Amhara region.. no oromo care what the Amhara elect as governor .. do u see any Golden activist talk about your leaders no body care only Amhara care about other region..stay where you belong and mind only your business...

banebris2013 give good meaning to Neftegna.... anyone can be a Neftegna if he or she implementing the Neftegna policy ... Derg time almost magortiy were oromo and other ethnic but they were try to implement the Neftegna policy one language and one nation under one flag police and they fail..

in USA when we talk about police abuse we r not talking about white police officer and black victim.. the police could be a black officer and do the worst to black people why because the black police officer following the white extremist policy ..

in Los Angeles riots 1992 rodney king beating not all the police were white there were black police officers too..

anyhow Amhara if u want to keep mama Ethiopia unity please please dont push your luck .. no self respecting oromo listen to your buda attitude .. they will fight you back tooth to nail..

Ethoash,

I couldn't find enough time to read through and reply to your (lengthy) comment with regard to my post about avocado growing in Ethiopia. I came across this post today and see at the first glance that you are still someone who seems hard pressed to sell your idea of lecturing others about the unity of Ethiopia should concern the Amhara people more than the rest (or at least more than it does so the Oromo people).

You start with a false premise and end up with a false argument/conclusion.

Why should the Amhara be more concerned about Ethiopia than the Oromos do (in fact the rest in the country do as well)?

You are trying to tell me that the concern of the Oromos is not as big as that of the others and with that imply the contribution of the Oromo people in sustaining and making it what it is today is sort of lesser significance (in comparison to the rest).

In doing so you are trying to vilify the tremendous contribution this people has made in creating and sustaining the nation, and you seem to appear someone who can speak in the interest of the Oromo people on top of that. Nothing can be more far from the truth than this presumption.

Forget all the other historical happenings in the country and just look at what the contemporary actors on the ground of today are doing:

For that just look at what Engineer Takele Uma is doing for the capital city of the country and compare that what Iskinder Nega is claiming to have contributed to the same goal.

Now tell me please why Iskinder Nega should feel himself as someone more concerned for the Capital city of the country and Takele Uma should feel in comparison less concerned about it?

We have been telling you that Oromo have been building and sustaining the country from the beginning to the end and there is no way that you can claim about something to the contradictory.

Just go back few steps and look at how Oromo paid the burden of the price when defending the unity and territroial integrity of the country was needed in the last round of the so called Ethio-Eritrea war of the last decade of the last century, which on the surface appeared more about a conflict between the two more closely related chunks of the greater Ethiopian people.

Do you think Amahra paid more price than the Oromos did? Do you think the Tigreans paid more price than the Oromos in that last round of conflict?

If not, then ask yourself about why Oromo should be less concerned about the precious country they defended and kept sustainbale all along?

This can help you get some medicines to your distorted ideaization.

[Ethoash]

DDT,

IF U HAVE no time watch what haile gebrselassie said .. he almost stolen my idea.. second sorry u dont have time to read my reply.. i know it is long and full of English grammar mistake but if u want improve the life of Ethiopian u must read the whole thing ten time and understand it that is the price u pay for improving Ethiopian life..

in short 1000 workers get involved to provide u with avocado juice daily ... it is not easy proposal.. u need few thing to make it UHT TECHNOLOGY (Ultra-high temperature processing (UHT), ultra-heat treatment, or ultra-pasteurization is a food processing technology that sterilizes liquid food by heating it above 135 °C (275 °F) – the temperature required to kill bacterial for 2 to 5 seconds.) mind u pasteurization heat the milk or the juice for less than 100 °C (212 °F) two totally different system

then u use Tetra Pak cartons.... TetraPak... are primarily made from paper. 75% of the Tetra Pak carton is made from paperboard, 20% of polyethylene and 5% of aluminium. These three materials are layered together using heat and pressure to form a six layered armour which protects the contents from light, oxygen, air, dirt and moisture.

Tetrapak... package juice or milk last one years without using refrigerator..... this technology is very old technology so it is tested and proven method of preserving food. TetraPak..is very popular in India and Arab countries ..... you see how much work involved to proved u with glass of avocado

u might say all i need is Avocado fruit i will made my juice.. sorry that avocado furit only last 15 days but avocado juse using Tetrapak last one years .. no farmers afford to proved u avocado fuirt at price u want.. the business model is not working 80% fruit must be made at factory level.. and packed to last very long long time... you know how long milk last without refrigerator .. and imagine someone come and tell u we can preserve milk without refrigerator for one years.. you see how i am happy and exciting and carry away and write none stop and make the reply long and make u to lose interest..

now about Bekele Gerbas

u have to see Ethiopia.... the old one and the new one.. the old one is then one u r talk about the new one is the old one is dead.. after 1991 we r dealing the new Ethiopia fed. state of Ethiopia ... just forget the old Ethiopia with all history or all Bs leave it and come to light and enjoy the new Ethiopia .. in the new Ethiopia Bekele Gerbas only talk for oromia if u dont like it dont vote for him when he seek fed vote. four point.. but if u want to touch him then u sign up the death of Ethiopia ... i cant say anything more.. u can write million word but no self respecting oromo or golden listen to you.. mind your own business .. when u do great job in Amhara region then only the other will vote for u.. insulting the oromo icon joywar and other make oromo stronger and more separated from your Amhara domination ;;;

fed system is what America use, what Canada use and almost all developed nation use .. our is copied word for word... we should thanked the founding father of meles for new Fed state of Ethiopia and oromia...

how a nice day...

[DefendTheTruth]

DDT,


now about Bekele Gerbas

u have to see Ethiopia.... the old one and the new one.. the old one is then one u r talk about the new one is the old one is dead.. after 1991 we r dealing the new Ethiopia fed. state of Ethiopia ... just forget the old Ethiopia with all history or all Bs leave it and come to light and enjoy the new Ethiopia .. in the new Ethiopia Bekele Gerbas only talk for oromia if u dont like it dont vote for him when he seek fed vote. four point.. but if u want to touch him then u sign up the death of Ethiopia ... i cant say anything more.. u can write million word but no self respecting oromo or golden listen to you.. mind your own business .. when u do great job in Amhara region then only the other will vote for u.. insulting the oromo icon joywar and other make oromo stronger and more separated from your Amhara domination ;;;

fed system is what America use, what Canada use and almost all developed nation use .. our is copied word for word... we should thanked the founding father of meles for new Fed state of Ethiopia and oromia...

how a nice day...

With regard to avocado that is what "Dr. Love" is offering, already better performance with under 2 year's time, what your "golden" didn't even dream of in about 30 yrs of rule. A waste!

With regard to your Bekele, I think there is no need to touch him, he himself is obliterating himself from the political scene of the country, very rapidly. if he has got some degree of self-esteem, then he should disappear from the face of any political scene in the country.

Someone who has openly called a riot against the ghost of Neftegna and came back after few days and declared there is no Neftegna that he knows off.

Someone who claimed in the past about having been suffered (mishandled) in the hands of his captors of TPLF dominated jails in the country and came out recently and claimed no one blew/touched a few dust particles on him in all of his captivity. What a deadman walking?

[Ethoash]

u make me laugh... about Dr.love... i am happy if he introduce UHT and Tetra Pak cartons

this is not about Bekele... think of him like TRUMP.. no body care about what Democrat think of him... as long as Republican vote for him he will be a second term president... this is what make democracy democracy... i dont even care to hear what Bekele said .. in fact in your benefit if he make mistake why would u try to stop him from making mistake... the more he make mistake the more he will be unelectable so let him make mistake in fact encourage him to make mistake .. think about two football team playing and the opponent helping u not to make mistake .. what an idiot proposal it is...

i am telling u it is above Bekele...it is about fed state of Ethiopia how we govern it.. how we tolerate our opponent idea ...what Amhara doing to Bekele is out right hateful.. this is good for his supporter the more you hate on him the more they support him..

now u accused him of telling lie about TPLF beating him up.. if they did not beating him up then telling the truth is make him hero not coward... yes before he might said they abuse him yes they abuse him just to jail him and taking away his freedom that considered abuse .. that might what he was talking about...

other also accused of him going to golden state .. my answer for this was fk u i will go again what the fk r u going to do i will keep on going and even i will buy house and live there who the fk can tell me where to go or not to go.. Dr. love and other can go to Eritrea but not to Golden state .u guys must be idiot .. for get going they will NATO and make u cry for another 30 years ... just because the Amhara hate Golden why u think oromo should follow u make u the boss of oromo u dont even get what you r saying .. God help mama Ethiopia

the oromo come back and agree to live by the Ethiopian constitution.... why not leave them alone otherwise they break way and u will see...what will happened Eritrean case all over...

[banebris2013]

There was no Neftegna (at least not one that he knows of to have blamed of) and at the same time trying to instigate violence in the name of "Neftegna" rising.

I said long time ago that this man is an imbecile, who is ambitioned to come to power in the name of political activism without having a moderate level of political consciousness.

The simplest thing to do is character assassination of those who are doing something for something they believe in, Bekele and Jawar stood for what they believe in and achieved something to a certain degree. You also stood for what you believe in, namely tearing down others under the cover of defending the truth.Not sure how much you have achieved other than the feeling of inner satisfaction. If it were for people like you there was no such a thing oromo, oromia and qubee. Obviously it is clear the current political environment has given you confidence to the extent that you loose objectivity and reasoning.
One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad. There is up coming generation that is relatively well informed/good access to information, relatively conscious and mentally liberated. The future of ethiopia/oromia is in the hands of this generation.
I hope you remember Meles the invincible or you can add Menge if you are a bit older. Most of as never learn from the past and will continue to repeat the same thing again and again with same outcome again. So what you are doing is nothing new as there were plenty of people who were expert in character assassination in the past. You are just one of them happen to be in the present.

You seem to enteratin the idea that the issue is about personalities or time, but it is neither of the two. It is simply a contest betweeen ideas and the winning versus losing idea.

Dr. Abey can be from yesterday or tomorrow but essential is for him to have a winning idea. Those who lacked idea have nothing to offer except a call to instigate violence.

An educated and well informed generation is measured on how good it can generate a winning idea, not on when in time it arrived. Get that in perspective if you care about your self.

DTT,
Thanks for your honest and reasonable reply. But we can not argue about the future. What we can argue is the potential. That is my perspective. As to who is having a winning idea at the moment is measured by where you stand and look at it.The only practical way to measure is credible and fair election, which sadly not happening due to Covid-19. Ethiopian politics is argued on the past as well as present. Basically winning in politics is about creating perception in the minds of the voters. it is the perception in the mind voters that decides who the winner or loser will be. By the way you do not necessarily have a winning idea to win election. Trump is a good example. Trump was perceived by enough and crucial number of voters to win the election.

Why you contradic yourself so fast and so much?

You wrote: "One thing you should not forget is the future oromo is beyond you, Bekele, Abiy, or Duad" and I replied showing you that it is not a matter of time, but a matter of having an idea (a winning idea irrespective of time) and now instantly telling me "But we can not argue about the future". Which future should I take now from your comments?

In my view you could have done yourself a better service if you tried to understand about what you are commenting before rushing to idolize someone and try to silence someone else for that from commenting about issues of common interest.

Sorry buddy i lost you here? If you think i am contradicting myself by mentioning the future as "potential" i have no argument. You want others to read and understand before commenting. Does that apply to DTT.
when one is deep in partisan politics mentality, they see things only through their lenses. Keep Defending your truth.