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Fighting started with Alula Solomn and Senait Meberatu V Jawar Mohammed!!

Post by Zreal » 27 Apr 2020, 17:38

Alula Solomon

ትግራይ ምርጫ ይካሄዳል ሲባል እየጮሁ እና እየተቃወሙ ያሉት የኮ/ል አብይ ደጋፊዎች ናቸው.. አንዳንዶቹማ ጭራሽ ትግራዮች ምርጫ ትሞክሯትና እንተያያለን የሚሉም አሉ:: በጀት የላችሁም ሕጉ አይፈቅድላችሁም.. ትግራይ አማራጭ ፓርቲዎች የሉም ሲሉም ተስተውለዋል::

አማራጭ ፓርቲ በትግራይ ወደ አምስት ገደማ አለ:: በጀት ስለተባለው ነገር የምርጫ ቦርድ መች ራሱን ችሎ ያውቃል እና ነው?! ከውጭ በእርዳታ በሚያገኘው ገንዘብ ታግዞ ነው ምርጫ የሚያስፈፅመው:: ህዝብ መሪዎቹን ለመምረጥ የሚያግደው ሕግም ኾነ ሌላ ኃይል የለም::

ዋናው ምክንያት ግን ይህ ሳይኾን በዋናነት ከፍተኛ ፍርሐት እና መረን የለቀቀ የትግራይ ጥላቻ ነው::

ከዚህ በተጨማሪም እነዚህ ሰዎች ምርጫ ከነ አካቴው ቀርቶ "የአንድነት ፓርክ መንግስት" መሪ ኮ/ል አብይ እስከ ወዲያኛው "ንጉስ" ተብሎ ቢገዛቸው ደስተኛ ናቸው:: ነገር ግን እኔ ኋላ ቀር ነኝ በንጉስ መገዛት እፈልጋለሁ ማለት ሌላውም እንደኔ እሺ ብሎ ይቀበላል ማለት አይደለም:: ከፈለጉ የራሳቸው ንጉስ ያለ ምርጫ ቀብተው ያንግሱ ሌላው ደግሞ ምርጫ አካሂዶ መሪዎቹን ይምረጥ:: ሰው እንደ ስልጣኔው እና ፍላጎቱ ይተዳደር::

ከኮ/ል አብይ ደጋፊዎች ውጭ ያለው ግን በተለይ ኦሮሞዎች ትግራይ ምርጫ ይካሄዳል መባሉ ድጋፋቸውን እየገለፁ ነው ብቻ ሳይኾን እንደ ጥሩ ምሳሌም አይተውታል::

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Jawar Mohammed

So Tigrai State wants to go a head and hold regional election in August despite federal election being postponed? Interesting! Another constitutional crisis on top of the one we already have. Come September, both Abiy's federal and Debretsion's regional government will expire and two illegitimate governments will be facing off. Both sides trying to find loopholes in the constitution to renew its legitimacy before that happens.

In my view, neither side has legal path forward. The best way is national dialogue and negotiation among contending parties.




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Re: Fighting started with Alula Solomn and Senait Meberatu V Jawar Mohammed!!

Post by Zreal » 27 Apr 2020, 17:42

Senait Mebrahtu

ምነው ግን ጃዋር "ምርኮኛ" የሚለውን ማእረግ ከሲሳይ ነጥቃቹ ለኔ ስጡኝ አለ ¿
አረ ተረጋጋ ¡ እርግጥ ነው ምርኮኛ እና ውትፍ ነቃይ አሁን አንተ እንደምትንቀዠቀዠው ይንቀዠቀዣል ግን መንቀዥቀዥ
"ለማ" ይጠቅማል¿ ለማንም!

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Jawar Mohammed

Our Tegaru friends are up in arms about my comment on the region's intent to hold election in August. Hold your horse.

1) I said the constitution does not give power to organize elections to regional states. It establishes a single National Electoral Board ( NEBE) Art 102. The election law ( Proclamation 1162/2019) creates regional chapters of NEBE with mandate to execute whats delegated to it by the federal NEBE. It is not an autonomous entity like other regional agriculture department for example. Had it been envisioned to be autonomous, it would have been established by action of the regional council not federal. Thats why the federal NEBE was in charge of Sidama referendum instead of SNNP body. So Tegaru brothers and sisters, despite enjoying a much more stronger autonomy today, as far as election is concerned, you fate is in the hands of the feds, just like the rest of us. Let alone election, you know NEBE will be in charge even if you decide to opt for referendum via 39(5). ( Btw I did not write the constitution. You know who did. I am just interpreting it.)

2) But you have options. The first is convince NEBE to organize regional level election or delegate power to regional chapter to do so. Good luck with that. The second option is search for loophole in the constitution. For in stance you can argue that if federal government fails to organize election, regional governments can organize one to protect itself against being an illegitimate government when its term expires. You might win this argument at house of federation but I am not sure. The last option is ignore the feds and organize election independently. That would be another step towards unilateral declaration of independence. Do you want that? Your call.

3) The feds also face similar constitutional crisis as Tigrai state. The term will expire in September, they said they cannot hold election in August as initially scheduled. And there is no constitutional way of postponing the election. They are looking into dissolution of parliament as in Art 60 or constitutional amendment. Neither will be legal and/or legitimate. Once its term expires, it will not have moral or legal authority over states or citizens. Of course, it could resort to use of force to cling to power or enforce its will. Thats different ball game. But I am talking about legal means.

4) Hence, both for regional and federal governments, for ruling as well as opposition parties and for the country as a whole, what is best is neither looking for some silly legal loophole nor resorting to use of force. The best and perhaps the only constructive way out of this constitutional crisis is negotiation, dialogue and bargain among stakeholders. Stop the pissing contest and come to the negotiating tables.

Finally you EPRDFites ( or its warring children PP and TPLF) never used to playing by the rule. You are accustomed to bending it to your wishes. Time to learn how play within the law rather than trying bend it. It is actually not that bad. Try it.

Sireerraa malee seerarraa waliif hin ka'an says an Oromo proverb.
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Re: Fighting started with Alula Solomn and Senait Meberatu V Jawar Mohammed!!

Post by Noble Amhara » 27 Apr 2020, 19:20

Disgusting filithy sh!tty Temben Agames and Ambo/Arsi gallalus

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