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Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
Ilma Hateraw Dikala! You son of a prostitute Tigre! Tigray is a land of kulkual, beggar, prostitute & lies. The person on is picture was your father who f@ked your mom like a hell. The man in the picture is not an Eritrean. He is from Ogaden. Stop posting lies & all those affected by drought are from Tigray & Wollo Kiflehager.
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Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
You baztard liar!!! This pic was taken by James Nachtwey, in South Sudan.
Here's the link of all his pictures:
https://ginagenis.wordpress.com/2012/05 ... y-quote-1/
Satan [deleted] ur hoe moma & she shat you! Biiatch ars mfkr!
Here's the link of all his pictures:
https://ginagenis.wordpress.com/2012/05 ... y-quote-1/
Satan [deleted] ur hoe moma & she shat you! Biiatch ars mfkr!
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Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
ቪዲዮው እንደሚያሳየው፣ አንድ የኦሮሞ ወጣት-- "በወያኔው Present ቂጥ ላይ አር ደርቆ ኩበት ሆኖ ሁለት ማንቆርቆርያ ሻይ ያፈላል!" -- እያለ ሲናገር ተደምጧል። ወያኔው Present በዚህ ላይ ምን ምላሽ አለህ? 
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Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
Who'se "we", you motherhumper? You & your demons?
Even the notorious EPLF hater, Martin Plaut witnesses:
Even the notorious EPLF hater, Martin Plaut witnesses:
Lest we forget: When the EPLF saved millions of Eritreans
Date: 25/09/2013
Author: Martin Plaut
https://martinplaut.com/2013/09/25/lest ... eritreans/
Picture: Problems of transport can be difficult
In a few months time it will be thirty years since a devastating drought that swept across the Horn of Africa.
Millions were driven to the edge of starvation and nowhere was worse hit than Eritrea. But in 1984 the Eritrean people had been fighting for their independence from Ethiopia for more than two decades.
Large parts of the country – particularly the rural areas – were only accessible by working with the main liberation movement, the Eritrean Peoples’ Liberation Front, or EPLF.
At the time a consortium of aid agencies, working through War on Want (where I was Vice-Chair) helped the EPLF via its relief wing. This was the Eritrean Relief Association.
This picture captures that effort – an effort which brought grain via Sudan and transported it deep into Eritrea. It was the moment that the EPLF saved millions.
This is the caption that was sent with the picture to newspapers around the world:
Drought and famine in Eritrea – Urgent help is neededA new famine is on its way in rural Eritrea because of the forth year of drought now. Help from foreign countries is urgently needed. 85-90% of Eritrean territory are under the well-established de facto administration of the Eritrean Peoples’ Liberation Front (EPLF), and so the only humanitarian agency operational in this area is the Eritrean Relief Association (ERA) to date.
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Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
Asmara was built by Italy, Mekelle was built by Ethiopians from Tigray. That is a big difference.
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Bull!
Italian designers of course, but built by Eritrean hands!
Italian designers of course, but built by Eritrean hands!
EthioRedSea wrote: ↑26 Apr 2020, 17:37Asmara was built by Italy, Mekelle was built by Ethiopians from Tigray. That is a big difference.
Re: Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't need to lie. Only Facts!!
Hi Present: You need to tell lies because facts won't serve your purpose
You know where you've got the image from, but you still claim the starving victim is an Eritrean. What is your purpose, though?
Eritreans have in the past experienced food shortages for various reasons, but not deadly famines. Could you tell us how many Eritreans have perished because of famine in 1985, if you have facts? The victim you've showed a picture of is from Sudan; and Sudan is not part of Eritrea. [ https://answersafrica.com/wp-content/up ... famine.jpg ] Successfully fighting food shortages requires preparation, organization, and leadership. And Eritreans are among the best in the world in performance during emergencies.
If you really want to disseminate only facts, as you claimed, you would not find Eritreans within the list of victims of the most deadly famines in Africa. Check it out for yourself. https://answersafrica.com/starvation-an ... frica.html Take note: "The Sahel" mentioned in that website is a continental region of Africa, not Sahel in northern Eritrea. Remember: You don't need to fight against or denigrate Eritreans to unite Etiyopiyans. Etiyopiyan unity could also come from a unity in purpose not involving Eritrea. I urge you to try working for both peoples' mutually beneficial interests.
You know where you've got the image from, but you still claim the starving victim is an Eritrean. What is your purpose, though?
Eritreans have in the past experienced food shortages for various reasons, but not deadly famines. Could you tell us how many Eritreans have perished because of famine in 1985, if you have facts? The victim you've showed a picture of is from Sudan; and Sudan is not part of Eritrea. [ https://answersafrica.com/wp-content/up ... famine.jpg ] Successfully fighting food shortages requires preparation, organization, and leadership. And Eritreans are among the best in the world in performance during emergencies.
If you really want to disseminate only facts, as you claimed, you would not find Eritreans within the list of victims of the most deadly famines in Africa. Check it out for yourself. https://answersafrica.com/starvation-an ... frica.html Take note: "The Sahel" mentioned in that website is a continental region of Africa, not Sahel in northern Eritrea. Remember: You don't need to fight against or denigrate Eritreans to unite Etiyopiyans. Etiyopiyan unity could also come from a unity in purpose not involving Eritrea. I urge you to try working for both peoples' mutually beneficial interests.
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Dear Etiyopiyan Ascari Present: Let us see what Dennis McDougal of LA Times said and what you said
Etiyopiyan Ascari Present, I read and understood what was written, I doubt if you did. Eritreans are not the first starving people in Africa: the culture of united minds and muscles are the key to solving our problems."መፍትሕ ኵሉ ሓድነት እዩ ስማ"says a lyric in an Eritrean song.
You are describing me as Ascari just because I am an Eritrean (if it means anything to you, but to me it doesn't), and I am calling you the same (an Etiyopiyan Ascari) because there were Etiyopiyan Ascaris, too. That is to show you that Ascari is not equal to Eritreans---it could be Etiyopiyan, Eritrean, Somali, Libyan, etc. That is the first point. https://www.ajol.info/index.php/ejossah ... iew/174229
https://www.satenaw.com/the-eritrean-an ... ary-badme/
Second point is that Dennis puts his news/analysis title (of Oct. 19, 1986) as follows:
You picked out part of the whole news piece---i.e.
Your thread doesn't refer to any particular time period. Therefore, your indefinite statement cannot be a fact. In fact, it is a deliberate lie. I will give you an evidence. Check this flyer out: https://radicalarchive.tumblr.com/image/102996695471
The speakers in the (1970s) event were "Eritreans for Liberation" and "Ethiopian Student Union in North America, N.Y. Chapter". The Eritreans' topic was "Struggle for Independence" while that of Etiyopiyans was "Ethiopian famine victims." And that occurred years before 1986. Therefore, the title of your thread cannot be true at all times.
We could, however, say that before the glaring manifestation of Etiyopiya's 1984 famine, food shortages were prevalent in Eritrea, primarily because of war and Derg's counter-insurgency strategies (denying peasants work on their fields, robbing livestock from peaceful citizens, blocking normal food distribution to starve tegadelti and the people, etc.), and natural calamities made the situation worse. Even then, I know of no report that Eritreans died of the 1984 famine, as did Etiyopiyans (particularly in Tigraiy, Wallo, Begamedir, Shewa, etc.), if any. That is why Dennis lumped everything together and emphasized that world charities did not feed Eritreans in 1984--1986. Here is the ad and child he discussed in Billboard magazine (June 7, 1986), p.70; or in the docplayer, search p. 98 of 142: https://docplayer.net/docview/66/546698 ... 669896.pdf
Compare the conditions of the Etiyopiyan child in the N.Y. flyer and the Eritrean child in the Billboard magazine. The Eritrean appears affected less by starvation. Tesfa Alem Seyoum did a good job posting that ad, though. It produced results. While the TPLF was reportedly selling food aid to buy armaments, the EPLF asked the charity organizations for assistance to buy food, seeds, plowing oxen, medicines, diagnostic and lab equipment, etc. The EPLF armed itself from the Derg's armaments. Eritreans demonstrated clear goals (war for national independence and people-centered), preparation, organization and leadership; and coped better in times of emergencies.
This should not about bragging over each other, but about what Etiyopiyans and Eritreans have got to do in the future: let us cooperate to live in peace and improve our respective people's access to water, realize food security, and make things just a little bit better.
Etiyopiyan Ascari Present, I read and understood what was written, I doubt if you did. Eritreans are not the first starving people in Africa: the culture of united minds and muscles are the key to solving our problems."መፍትሕ ኵሉ ሓድነት እዩ ስማ"says a lyric in an Eritrean song.
Malnutrition, hunger, food shortage, famine, etc. do have different measures and scales. Not all food insecurities are the same. Famines are the worst of all, and they are historically more frequent in Etiopiya than in Eritrea.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Famines_in_Ethiopia
You are describing me as Ascari just because I am an Eritrean (if it means anything to you, but to me it doesn't), and I am calling you the same (an Etiyopiyan Ascari) because there were Etiyopiyan Ascaris, too. That is to show you that Ascari is not equal to Eritreans---it could be Etiyopiyan, Eritrean, Somali, Libyan, etc. That is the first point. https://www.ajol.info/index.php/ejossah ... iew/174229
https://www.satenaw.com/the-eritrean-an ... ary-badme/
Second point is that Dennis puts his news/analysis title (of Oct. 19, 1986) as follows:
The reporter was talking, in general, about the 1984 Etiyopiyan famine and how private charities with the help of world famous music stars tried to raise money to feed famine-stricken Etiyopiyans. That famine was deadly and it is estimated that anywhere between 400,000 and 1,200,000 (depending on who was estimating) lives perished from hunger/thirst. The causes of the famine were drought, war/displacements, Derg's counter-insurgency strategies, forced re-settlements, locusts, etc.ERITREA : HAS ERITREA, WHERE AFRICA’S FAMINE BEGAN, BEEN FORGOTTEN? : Ethiopia’s Rebellious Northern Province Has Gotten Only a Few Dollars From the Pop Charities--And the Misery Goes On
You picked out part of the whole news piece---i.e.
--- but titled your thread...ERITREA, WHERE AFRICA'S FAMINE BEGAN....
Eritreans The First Starving People in Africa. We don't lie. Only Facts!!
Your thread doesn't refer to any particular time period. Therefore, your indefinite statement cannot be a fact. In fact, it is a deliberate lie. I will give you an evidence. Check this flyer out: https://radicalarchive.tumblr.com/image/102996695471
The speakers in the (1970s) event were "Eritreans for Liberation" and "Ethiopian Student Union in North America, N.Y. Chapter". The Eritreans' topic was "Struggle for Independence" while that of Etiyopiyans was "Ethiopian famine victims." And that occurred years before 1986. Therefore, the title of your thread cannot be true at all times.
We could, however, say that before the glaring manifestation of Etiyopiya's 1984 famine, food shortages were prevalent in Eritrea, primarily because of war and Derg's counter-insurgency strategies (denying peasants work on their fields, robbing livestock from peaceful citizens, blocking normal food distribution to starve tegadelti and the people, etc.), and natural calamities made the situation worse. Even then, I know of no report that Eritreans died of the 1984 famine, as did Etiyopiyans (particularly in Tigraiy, Wallo, Begamedir, Shewa, etc.), if any. That is why Dennis lumped everything together and emphasized that world charities did not feed Eritreans in 1984--1986. Here is the ad and child he discussed in Billboard magazine (June 7, 1986), p.70; or in the docplayer, search p. 98 of 142: https://docplayer.net/docview/66/546698 ... 669896.pdf
Compare the conditions of the Etiyopiyan child in the N.Y. flyer and the Eritrean child in the Billboard magazine. The Eritrean appears affected less by starvation. Tesfa Alem Seyoum did a good job posting that ad, though. It produced results. While the TPLF was reportedly selling food aid to buy armaments, the EPLF asked the charity organizations for assistance to buy food, seeds, plowing oxen, medicines, diagnostic and lab equipment, etc. The EPLF armed itself from the Derg's armaments. Eritreans demonstrated clear goals (war for national independence and people-centered), preparation, organization and leadership; and coped better in times of emergencies.
This should not about bragging over each other, but about what Etiyopiyans and Eritreans have got to do in the future: let us cooperate to live in peace and improve our respective people's access to water, realize food security, and make things just a little bit better.
[/quote]present wrote: ↑27 Apr 2020, 02:56Stupi'd Ascari yay
Can you read and understands
Read this
The full-page ad in Billboard magazine displayed a familiar image--a big-bellied, spindly limbed African baby, naked except for a T-shirt.
The headline read: NO ROCK STAR IS SINGING FOR THIS CHILD.
It was a strikingly ironic message in an era when rock and famine seem to go together like bread and but'ter. But this child wasn’t from the African famine featured on MTV and the network news. He was from Eritrea, a California-size province of Ethiopia along its northern border, where the killing famine of 1984 began. These children continue to starve, 15 months after “We Are the World” dropped off the Billboard record chart.
Mar 15, 2017 · Eritreans are at risk of severe malnutrition – but aid agencies ... During the last great famine to hit the region in 1984-85, the ...
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm ... ?_amp=true
YAY wrote: ↑26 Apr 2020, 23:48Hi Present: You need to tell lies because facts won't serve your purpose
You know where you've got the image from, but you still claim the starving victim is an Eritrean. What is your purpose, though?
Eritreans have in the past experienced food shortages for various reasons, but not deadly famines. Could you tell us how many Eritreans have perished because of famine in 1985, if you have facts? The victim you've showed a picture of is from Sudan; and Sudan is not part of Eritrea. [ https://answersafrica.com/wp-content/up ... famine.jpg ] Successfully fighting food shortages requires preparation, organization, and leadership. And Eritreans are among the best in the world in performance during emergencies.
If you really want to disseminate only facts, as you claimed, you would not find Eritreans within the list of victims of the most deadly famines in Africa. Check it out for yourself. https://answersafrica.com/starvation-an ... frica.html Take note: "The Sahel" mentioned in that website is a continental region of Africa, not Sahel in northern Eritrea. Remember: You don't need to fight against or denigrate Eritreans to unite Etiyopiyans. Etiyopiyan unity could also come from a unity in purpose not involving Eritrea. I urge you to try working for both peoples' mutually beneficial interests.