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[DefendTheTruth]

Oromoo Yaa Abbaa Fardaa, Oromooo Yaa Abbaa Biyyaa,
Durumaa eessa jira kan siin Hiriyaa?

Halleelii Hattuu Baasii, Diinas Biyya irraa Yaasi
Gantuu fi Sobduus amma of-keessaa Baasii;

[Naga Tuma]

Oromoo Yaa Abbaa Fardaa, Oromooo Yaa Abbaa Biyyaa,
Durumaa eessa jira kan siin Hiriyaa?

Halleelii Hattuu Baasii, Diinas Biyya irraa Yaasi
Gantuu fi Sobduus amma of-keessaa Baasii;

DefendTheTruth,

It is mesmerizing to see this kind of performance. I only hope there wasn't undue pressure on the horse in order to achieve this level of performance.

Then again, I saw a talent of one Ethiopian man and, I might add, a talent of a horse in Ethiopia. I think it takes a talent of the horse demonstrated by the horse to stand that vertically, keeping a balance, even for a moment while attending to the pressure of a human being on its back and a shackle in its jaws.

I wish another Ethiopian grabs his ruler and pencil and records the essential dimensions at the peak of the performance and gets them registered for the record. This could be a record for a horse like the Vitruvian Man is for a human.

That would have done just good for all አባ ብያ Ethiopians of Ethiopia. But the እንኳ ተፈጠርና like arrogance moment leads to damaging a successful political movement.

All Ethiopians are አባ ብያ in and of Ethiopia. For instance, the Borana man who arrived some 400 years ago in Waliso with his three wives and begot three sons, one in Waliso, one in Amaya, and one in Kutaye, according to oral history, can not claim to be አባ ብያ any more than the ገበሬ who was already living there and came to be known as ገበሮ can claim to be አባ ብያ or ባለ ሃገር. To be sure, no one can be called a ገበሬ without knowing how to till land that he owns or owned. In short, all Ethiopians from the ዘላን to ገበሬ to pilots and all in between are its አባ ብያ. That road leads to nation building instead of to one that damages a successful movement.

[DefendTheTruth]

DefendTheTruth,

It is mesmerizing to see this kind of performance. I only hope there wasn't undue pressure on the horse in order to achieve this level of performance.

Then again, I saw a talent of one Ethiopian man and, I might add, a talent of a horse in Ethiopia. I think it takes a talent of the horse demonstrated by the horse to stand that vertically, keeping a balance, even for a moment while attending to the pressure of a human being on its back and a shackle in its jaws.

I wish another Ethiopian grabs his ruler and pencil and records the essential dimensions at the peak of the performance and gets them registered for the record. This could be a record for a horse like the Vitruvian Man is for a human.

That would have done just good for all አባ ብያ Ethiopians of Ethiopia. But the እንኳ ተፈጠርና like arrogance moment leads to damaging a successful political movement.

All Ethiopians are አባ ብያ in and of Ethiopia. For instance, the Borana man who arrived some 400 years ago in Waliso with his three wives and begot three sons, one in Waliso, one in Amaya, and one in Kutaye, according to oral history, can not claim to be አባ ብያ any more than the ገበሬ who was already living there and came to be known as ገበሮ can claim to be አባ ብያ or ባለ ሃገር. To be sure, no one can be called a ገበሬ without knowing how to till land that he owns or owned. In short, all Ethiopians from the ዘላን to ገበሬ to pilots and all in between are its አባ ብያ. That road leads to nation building instead of to one that damages a successful movement.

Naga Tuma,

I think life itself is a competition today, be it for us the humans or the other animals, and that horse might not have chosen by its own free will to put itself under such a challenge even for a moment.

With regard to Abbaa Biyyaa (አባ ብያ) it seems to me the boundary (categorization) I had in my mind when I used the word and the one you seem to be referring to might be not one and the same.

I try to keep myself, as much as I can, away from the temptation of collective judgment and in such case there are true Abbaa Biyyaas in both of the sets of the ዘላን and ገበሬ you referred to in your message. If there are true Abbaa Biyyaas, then there are also the class of "gantus" in both of the sets, needless to say here, and I was referring to this "gantus".

[tlel]

No one can beat Oromo in Aikido and Horse racing. Once they build institute on horse racing and aikido, I think they should compete internationally. Other ethnics also have their innate talent and must bring it out for the betterment of Ethiopia. My Oromo brothers, don't listen to Jawar/Bekele types they are going to for another enslavement like aba jiffar to outside/arebs. they are trying to weaken you. Don't beleive shabia/tplf

Somalia was colonized and adopted Latin, Oromo fought not to be colonized with its brothers and sisters Ethiopioans must use Geez for Oromiffa! Stop Arab colonizing Flag also. Oromo fathers and grandfathers fought for Ethiopia with the 3 stripes Green Yellow Red and not for Arabs!

[DefendTheTruth]

[Naga Tuma]

DefendTheTruth,

It is mesmerizing to see this kind of performance. I only hope there wasn't undue pressure on the horse in order to achieve this level of performance.

Then again, I saw a talent of one Ethiopian man and, I might add, a talent of a horse in Ethiopia. I think it takes a talent of the horse demonstrated by the horse to stand that vertically, keeping a balance, even for a moment while attending to the pressure of a human being on its back and a shackle in its jaws.

I wish another Ethiopian grabs his ruler and pencil and records the essential dimensions at the peak of the performance and gets them registered for the record. This could be a record for a horse like the Vitruvian Man is for a human.

That would have done just good for all አባ ብያ Ethiopians of Ethiopia. But the እንኳ ተፈጠርና like arrogance moment leads to damaging a successful political movement.

All Ethiopians are አባ ብያ in and of Ethiopia. For instance, the Borana man who arrived some 400 years ago in Waliso with his three wives and begot three sons, one in Waliso, one in Amaya, and one in Kutaye, according to oral history, can not claim to be አባ ብያ any more than the ገበሬ who was already living there and came to be known as ገበሮ can claim to be አባ ብያ or ባለ ሃገር. To be sure, no one can be called a ገበሬ without knowing how to till land that he owns or owned. In short, all Ethiopians from the ዘላን to ገበሬ to pilots and all in between are its አባ ብያ. That road leads to nation building instead of to one that damages a successful movement.

Naga Tuma,

I think life itself is a competition today, be it for us the humans or the other animals, and that horse might not have chosen by its own free will to put itself under such a challenge even for a moment.

With regard to Abbaa Biyyaa (አባ ብያ) it seems to me the boundary (categorization) I had in my mind when I used the word and the one you seem to be referring to might be not one and the same.

I try to keep myself, as much as I can, away from the temptation of collective judgment and in such case there are true Abbaa Biyyaas in both of the sets of the ዘላን and ገበሬ you referred to in your message. If there are true Abbaa Biyyaas, then there are also the class of "gantus" in both of the sets, needless to say here, and I was referring to this "gantus".

DefendTheTruth,

It is possible that what you had in mind may be different from what I understood by reading what you wrote. I fail to understand a practical or realistic difference between ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ and ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ mantras. Do you? I don't think either is healthy for nation building.

[DefendTheTruth]

DefendTheTruth,

It is possible that what you had in mind may be different from what I understood by reading what you wrote. I fail to understand a practical or realistic difference between ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ and ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ mantras. Do you? I don't think either is healthy for nation building.

Naga Tuma,

you are entitled to your own opinion, in my view, but the two are not from same stripe of thinking pattern(s).

ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ, in my view, is about taking responsibility for the country while ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ could only be about excluding somebody, which shows only lack of the responsibility I am talking about here.

To add one more saying perhaps which drives my saying home is the following: ብያ አባ ዳብዴ፣ ሴራ ዳቤሳቱ እረት ቡራቀ።

Driving somebody out of the country (collectively) only shows about lack of rule of law, while taking the responsibility of one's own country may only encourage the rule of law. At least this is my understanding.

[Fitawrari Meshesha]

The first time I ever smell gojJam pus$y was when one I was 10 years old and the gered in my house bend over to clean some cloth so I came from behind and smell the pu$sy she dednt mind she as laughing and so after we get close she let me put my finger Inside before I go to school especially she dednt wash for 1 week I use to smell my finger all day in school and later when the smell reducing I was very angry but I was put finger in my nose and sniff very hard until I take all the sweet smelling of gojjam pus$y

[tlel]

Beautiful! This is the Oromo I know growing up! When I go to Ethiopia will learn Oromiffa in Geez not in Latin!! God keep you and Ethiopia safe! This is what I am talking about, if they put training institution, Ethiopians who want to learn can be trained there. This stable should also make income.

[tlel]

Every Ethiopian who ever you are get rid of your fanatic groups you buried in your society, most likely they are enemies supported by foreigners and Liberation Fronts to break up Ethiopian societies and destroy the society, so it is your responsibility to get rid of these elements even if these enemies are your ethnic groups that is now acting like alien against Ethiopia so get rid of him/her/them.

[Naga Tuma]

DefendTheTruth,

It is possible that what you had in mind may be different from what I understood by reading what you wrote. I fail to understand a practical or realistic difference between ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ and ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ mantras. Do you? I don't think either is healthy for nation building.

Naga Tuma,

you are entitled to your own opinion, in my view, but the two are not from same stripe of thinking pattern(s).

ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ, in my view, is about taking responsibility for the country while ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ could only be about excluding somebody, which shows only lack of the responsibility I am talking about here.

To add one more saying perhaps which drives my saying home is the following: ብያ አባ ዳብዴ፣ ሴራ ዳቤሳቱ እረት ቡራቀ።

Driving somebody out of the country (collectively) only shows about lack of rule of law, while taking the responsibility of one's own country may only encourage the rule of law. At least this is my understanding.

DefendTheTruth,

You too are entitled to your opinion.

አትስ "የአክሱም ሃዉልት ለወላይታ ህዝብ ምኑ ነዉ" አከ ጄዸሜ ጄቹ ዮ በርባዴ መሌ ኣባን ብያ ጅራታ (citizen) ብያ ሁንደ፣ ነሞቱመ ብየ እሳን እልመ ጉዴዳ ከን ጄዸሜ ደበለቴ። አኩመ ዋን ወር ወሪ ሃሰአን እጆሌን ዋሬ ሃሶፍት ጄዸሜ "ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ" ከን ወር ወሪ ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ ሃሰአን እጆሌን ገድ ባቴ ዋሬ ሃሶፍቴ።

[DefendTheTruth]

DefendTheTruth,

It is possible that what you had in mind may be different from what I understood by reading what you wrote. I fail to understand a practical or realistic difference between ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ and ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ mantras. Do you? I don't think either is healthy for nation building.

Naga Tuma,

you are entitled to your own opinion, in my view, but the two are not from same stripe of thinking pattern(s).

ኦሮሞ አባ ብያ, in my view, is about taking responsibility for the country while ኢትዮጵያ አዉት ኦፍ ኦሮምያ could only be about excluding somebody, which shows only lack of the responsibility I am talking about here.

To add one more saying perhaps which drives my saying home is the following: ብያ አባ ዳብዴ፣ ሴራ ዳቤሳቱ እረት ቡራቀ።

Driving somebody out of the country (collectively) only shows about lack of rule of law, while taking the responsibility of one's own country may only encourage the rule of law. At least this is my understanding.

DefendTheTruth,

You too are entitled to your opinion. አትስ "አክሱም ለወላይታ ህዝብ ምኑ ነዉ" አከ ጄዸሜ ጄቹ ዮ በርባዴ መሌ ኣባን ብያ ጅራታ (citizen) ብያ ሁንደ።

Naga Tuma,

your interpretation of my comment appears to suggest that it was kind of ostracizing somebody, if I understand you well.

My thinking while commenting was about suggesting that something belongs to you and there is no need to run away from it, instead of owning it.

I am lost how these two lines of thinking could be lump summed together.

[Naga Tuma]

DefendTheTruth,

There is a difference between stating something belongs to your sector and it belongs to all stakeholders. That is what I have been trying to highlight because the former is what I have been reading as what you suggest.