It's absolutely true. Apart from the brief border altercation in 1964, there has never been a war between Somalia and Ethiopia. The 1977/1978 war dubbed "The Ogaden War" was a war between western Somali freedom fighters and Ethiopia. We all know that the ONLF has been fighting for self-determination of the Somalis under the Ethiopian occupation.
Somalia had nothing to do with that war, and had not supported the ONLF more than it had supported OLF, EPLF, and TPLF.
Hola, por cierto, hermano!
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
Getting slammed with facts is a habit of Irredentialist. It is a fact that Ethiopia didn't went to Somalia to invade it is Saidbares inapt army, taking an opportunity of the crises in Ethiopia that launched an invasion. There was no freedom fighter , and there was no freedom fighter who fly air force with Somalia flag on it , though as Somali's incompetent air force doped like a fly with 5 Ethiopian F5. First Somali is a basket case that doesn't have a power to keep it self together. Ethiopians who died to protect their country are not going to be celebrated not to offend the bleeding irredentalist Somali's？You don't turn a marching invading army into a freedom fighter army. Yea there were groups whether you call it ogaden freedom or this or that that was armed and supported by seyadbara. Look after the war now the somali's living in Ethiopia are more prosperous and at peace than any of of Somalia proper. Your irredental dream of taking a land from kenya , Djibouti, and Ethiopia is going to remain as such including getting back the two independent Somalia speaking lands. Whether one like it or not those who died heroically fighting for their beloved country will be remembered for years and years to come. Get used to it. You either Ethiopian or Somalian -- if you don't like Ethiopia Somalia is just down Wabi sheble river you can move there.
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
FYI, Western Somalis are no guests for Ethiopia or anyone else; they're right in their ancestral homeland, and it's just a matter of time before they re-join the rest of the mother country. Enjoy in the meantime calling Western Region of Somalia Eastern Ethiopia, as this will not last long.
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
ዘላን ሽርጣም ሶማሌ አንደ ኣያ ጂቦ ነው የሆናች ሁት
ጂቡ የላምዋን ጎዳ ቀንድ ከኣሁን ኣሁን ይወድቃል ቢሎ ሲከተል ዋለ ኣሉ
ዘላኑ ዚያድ ባሬ ኢትዮጵያ ተዳኪማለች ቢሎ ጎረበት ሲሆን ይረዳል ግን
ዘላን፣ኣጋሜ፥ ቀሮ ኣይንት ኣጋጣሚ ጠብሜቀው የሚተናኮሱ አንሾች
ኣገራችንን ወርረው ንበሰጡር በሳንጃ አየገደሉ ትግስታችንን ሲፈታተኑ
ጀግናው የኢትዮጵያ ጦር ዘላኑ ሽርጡን ገልቦ አንዲሮጥ ኣደረጎ የማያዳገም
ቅጣት ቀጥቶት ነበር ኣሁን አንደገና ጊዘው ሲርቅ አና ኣገራችን በ ኣጋሜ አና
በ መንጋ ቀሮ ለጊዘው ስትታወክ የደከመች መስሎኣቸው አንደገና ታሪክ በማዛባት
ከነ ግብጽ ጋር አንዲሁም ከሌላ ኣረብ ኣገሮች በሚደረግላቸው አርዳታ አንደን ጃዋር
ታከለ ጎማዕ በቀለ ገሪባ ያሉ ኢትዮጵያን ትአግስት ብ ኢፈታተኑም አንደገና ወደነበሩበት
አንዲገቡ የደረጋል። የኢትዮጵያ ድንበር ድሮም ቢሆን ኣንደ ሲጠብ ኣንደ ሲሰፋ የነሮና
ሁለጊዘም ቢሆን ሚቅኛ ና ከሃዲ ተልይቶት ኣያውቅም ምንም ኣዲስ ኣየደለም ለ አኛ
አንደገና መቀሌ፣ሞቅዲሾ፤ወለጋ አና ከንያ ዲረስ ሂደን ሎኣላዊነታችንን አናስከበራለን
ጂቡ የላምዋን ጎዳ ቀንድ ከኣሁን ኣሁን ይወድቃል ቢሎ ሲከተል ዋለ ኣሉ
ዘላኑ ዚያድ ባሬ ኢትዮጵያ ተዳኪማለች ቢሎ ጎረበት ሲሆን ይረዳል ግን
ዘላን፣ኣጋሜ፥ ቀሮ ኣይንት ኣጋጣሚ ጠብሜቀው የሚተናኮሱ አንሾች
ኣገራችንን ወርረው ንበሰጡር በሳንጃ አየገደሉ ትግስታችንን ሲፈታተኑ
ጀግናው የኢትዮጵያ ጦር ዘላኑ ሽርጡን ገልቦ አንዲሮጥ ኣደረጎ የማያዳገም
ቅጣት ቀጥቶት ነበር ኣሁን አንደገና ጊዘው ሲርቅ አና ኣገራችን በ ኣጋሜ አና
በ መንጋ ቀሮ ለጊዘው ስትታወክ የደከመች መስሎኣቸው አንደገና ታሪክ በማዛባት
ከነ ግብጽ ጋር አንዲሁም ከሌላ ኣረብ ኣገሮች በሚደረግላቸው አርዳታ አንደን ጃዋር
ታከለ ጎማዕ በቀለ ገሪባ ያሉ ኢትዮጵያን ትአግስት ብ ኢፈታተኑም አንደገና ወደነበሩበት
አንዲገቡ የደረጋል። የኢትዮጵያ ድንበር ድሮም ቢሆን ኣንደ ሲጠብ ኣንደ ሲሰፋ የነሮና
ሁለጊዘም ቢሆን ሚቅኛ ና ከሃዲ ተልይቶት ኣያውቅም ምንም ኣዲስ ኣየደለም ለ አኛ
አንደገና መቀሌ፣ሞቅዲሾ፤ወለጋ አና ከንያ ዲረስ ሂደን ሎኣላዊነታችንን አናስከበራለን
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
There is no motherland to join to -- first act as a nation instead of tribe. you speak the same language, the same religion but you cease to exist as a country 40 years ago. Saidbare who you are trying to glorify as your hero did bomb with his air force, Somalia's capital city Megodisho before he run off to Saudi Arabia. Ethiopian army is there in Somail proper now as we speak to hold you together. If the Ethiopian army leaves your Somalia you will crumble. This a fact. So why don't you be grateful to what Ethiopians are doing to help you be a nation again that attacking, and backstabbing the country that helps you to be one? The ungrateful has to be your middle name. Somaliman.
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
The Egyptian poopy....we going to choke your vain soon, and you going to speak Amharic, oromofia,somail, and add Vietnamese to your list... Egyptian baboon.
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
Lakeshore wrote: ↑08 Mar 2020, 21:26ዘላን ሽርጣም ሶማሌ አንደ ኣያ ጂቦ ነው የሆናች ሁት
ጂቡ የላምዋን ጎዳ ቀንድ ከኣሁን ኣሁን ይወድቃል ቢሎ ሲከተል ዋለ ኣሉ
ዘላኑ ዚያድ ባሬ ኢትዮጵያ ተዳኪማለች ቢሎ ጎረበት ሲሆን ይረዳል ግን
ዘላን፣ኣጋሜ፥ ቀሮ ኣይንት ኣጋጣሚ ጠብሜቀው የሚተናኮሱ አንሾች
ኣገራችንን ወርረው ንበሰጡር በሳንጃ አየገደሉ ትግስታችንን ሲፈታተኑ
ጀግናው የኢትዮጵያ ጦር ዘላኑ ሽርጡን ገልቦ አንዲሮጥ ኣደረጎ የማያዳገም
ቅጣት ቀጥቶት ነበር ኣሁን አንደገና ጊዘው ሲርቅ አና ኣገራችን በ ኣጋሜ አና
በ መንጋ ቀሮ ለጊዘው ስትታወክ የደከመች መስሎኣቸው አንደገና ታሪክ በማዛባት
ከነ ግብጽ ጋር አንዲሁም ከሌላ ኣረብ ኣገሮች በሚደረግላቸው አርዳታ አንደን ጃዋር
ታከለ ጎማዕ በቀለ ገሪባ ያሉ ኢትዮጵያን ትአግስት ብ ኢፈታተኑም አንደገና ወደነበሩበት
አንዲገቡ የደረጋል። የኢትዮጵያ ድንበር ድሮም ቢሆን ኣንደ ሲጠብ ኣንደ ሲሰፋ የነሮና
ሁለጊዘም ቢሆን ሚቅኛ ና ከሃዲ ተልይቶት ኣያውቅም ምንም ኣዲስ ኣየደለም ለ አኛ
አንደገና መቀሌ፣ሞቅዲሾ፤ወለጋ አና ከንያ ዲረስ ሂደን ሎኣላዊነታችንን አናስከበራለን
Could you translate your crap into English!
Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
Here is your beloved General Siad Baare who bombarded his own Somali --- Now he is the hero who went to Ethiopia to free Somalis.
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In April 1981, a group of Isaaq businesspeople, students, former civil servants and former politicians who lived in the United Kingdom founded the Somali National Movement in London.[8] Initially, the aim of the various groups that merged to create the SNM was not to create an armed liberation front, but rather these groups formed as a direct response to the harsh policies enacted by the Barre regime against the Isaaq people.[9]
By 1982 the SNM transferred their headquarters to Dire Dawa in Ethiopia,[10] as both Somalia and Ethiopia at the time offered safe havens of operation for resistance groups against each other. From there the SNM successfully launched a guerrilla war against the Barre regime through incursions and hit and run operations on army positions within Isaaq territories before returning to Ethiopia.[9] The SNM continued this pattern of attacks from 1982 and throughout the 1980s, at a time the Ogaden Somalis (some of whom were recruited refugees) made up the bulk of Barre's armed forces accused of committing acts of genocide against the Isaaq people of the north.[11]
A policy letter written by Barre's son-in-law and viceroy in the north General Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan known as The Morgan Report[12] formed the basis of the Barre regime's retaliation against the Isaaq following a successful SNM attack on Hargeisa and Burao. The policy letter provided “implemented and recommended measures” for a “final solution” to Somalia's “Isaaq problem”.[13]
According to Rebecca Richards, a systematic state violence that followed was linked to the Barre government's belief that SNM attacks were receiving assistance from the Ethiopian government. The harsh reprisals, widespread bombing and burning of villages by Barre regime followed every time there was an attack by SNM believed to be hiding in Ethiopia.[14] The regime violence in the north and northwest was disproportionate, affected many communities, particularly Isaaq. The number of civilian deaths in this massacre is estimated to be between 50,000-100,000[15] according to various sources, whilst local reports estimate the total civilian deaths to be upwards of 200,000 Isaaq civilians.[16] The government attack included the levelling and complete destruction of the second and third largest cities in Somalia,[17] Hargeisa (which was 90 per cent destroyed)[18] and Burao (70 per cent destroyed) respectively through a campaign of aerial bombardment, and had caused 400,000 Somalis[19] (primarily of the Isaaq clan) to flee their land and cross the border to Hartasheikh in Ethiopia as refugees, creating the world's largest refugee camp then (1988),[20] with another 400,000 being internally displaced.[19]
A United Nations investigation concluded that the Barre regime's killing of Isaaq civilians was a genocide, and that the crime of genocide was "conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somali government against the Isaaq people".[21]
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Main article: Isaaq genocide
In April 1981, a group of Isaaq businesspeople, students, former civil servants and former politicians who lived in the United Kingdom founded the Somali National Movement in London.[8] Initially, the aim of the various groups that merged to create the SNM was not to create an armed liberation front, but rather these groups formed as a direct response to the harsh policies enacted by the Barre regime against the Isaaq people.[9]
By 1982 the SNM transferred their headquarters to Dire Dawa in Ethiopia,[10] as both Somalia and Ethiopia at the time offered safe havens of operation for resistance groups against each other. From there the SNM successfully launched a guerrilla war against the Barre regime through incursions and hit and run operations on army positions within Isaaq territories before returning to Ethiopia.[9] The SNM continued this pattern of attacks from 1982 and throughout the 1980s, at a time the Ogaden Somalis (some of whom were recruited refugees) made up the bulk of Barre's armed forces accused of committing acts of genocide against the Isaaq people of the north.[11]
A policy letter written by Barre's son-in-law and viceroy in the north General Mohammed Said Hersi Morgan known as The Morgan Report[12] formed the basis of the Barre regime's retaliation against the Isaaq following a successful SNM attack on Hargeisa and Burao. The policy letter provided “implemented and recommended measures” for a “final solution” to Somalia's “Isaaq problem”.[13]
According to Rebecca Richards, a systematic state violence that followed was linked to the Barre government's belief that SNM attacks were receiving assistance from the Ethiopian government. The harsh reprisals, widespread bombing and burning of villages by Barre regime followed every time there was an attack by SNM believed to be hiding in Ethiopia.[14] The regime violence in the north and northwest was disproportionate, affected many communities, particularly Isaaq. The number of civilian deaths in this massacre is estimated to be between 50,000-100,000[15] according to various sources, whilst local reports estimate the total civilian deaths to be upwards of 200,000 Isaaq civilians.[16] The government attack included the levelling and complete destruction of the second and third largest cities in Somalia,[17] Hargeisa (which was 90 per cent destroyed)[18] and Burao (70 per cent destroyed) respectively through a campaign of aerial bombardment, and had caused 400,000 Somalis[19] (primarily of the Isaaq clan) to flee their land and cross the border to Hartasheikh in Ethiopia as refugees, creating the world's largest refugee camp then (1988),[20] with another 400,000 being internally displaced.[19]
A United Nations investigation concluded that the Barre regime's killing of Isaaq civilians was a genocide, and that the crime of genocide was "conceived, planned and perpetrated by the Somali government against the Isaaq people".[21]
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Re: ABIY vs SOMALIS: 1977's was a liberation war waged by Somalis colonised by Ethiopia. It was NOT Ethiopia vs Somalia
Somaliman
it is not written for you you know the story first hand when you were whiped by ethiopian airforce. don't worry
it is not written for you you know the story first hand when you were whiped by ethiopian airforce. don't worry